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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
- What If We Fixed Ghostbusters 2016?
: Ivo Shandor is a businessman CEO leading the Cult of Samhain. Wanting to force the world into eternal darkness, Shandor brings about the creations of multiple monsters and ghosts from Urban Legends, putting numerous people in danger in the process. Impeding the Ghostbusters' efforts to stop him once he becomes a ghost himself, Shandor, using the Empire State Building, seeks to harness power to bring Samhain into the real world, and to this end possesses and plans to sacrifice hundreds of trick-or-treating kids. He also possesses and threatens the life of Erin's son as a means of further preventing the Ghostbusters' opposition.
- "Alicization" arc:
- Quinella rules the Underworld as the High Minister of the Axiom Church. In an effort to obtain immortality, she fuses herself with the Cardinal System of the Underworld, calls herself a goddess, and begins corrupting the souls of the Underworld nobility by spreading ignorance and fear among the populace. She also brainwashes every rebel fighting against her government and the Champions of the Four Empires Unity Tournament—something which she had done for centuries while also performing fatal experiments on children. After realizing the invasion of the Dark Territory is inevitable, Quinella confiscates every line of defense from the Human Empire to make the people more dependent on the Axiom Church. She transforms the loyal Integrity Knights' loved ones into swords and forms a Golem out of them, making them believe they are protecting their loved ones while feeling constant agony to protect "her" empire. Said empire is so bad that both Kirito and Cardinal feel that destroying the Underworld would be better than having Quinella rule it.
- Gabriel Miller, murderous even as a child, is the boss of Glowgen Defense Systems and leads the raid to the Ocean Turtle on behalf of the NSA. He enters into the Underworld in the super-account of Vecta, God of Darkness, intending on stealing the only fully-developed Artificial Fluctlight. With his new powers, Gabriel turns the turbulent Seven Lords Assembly of the Dark Territory—whose inhabitants are forced to follow the "rule of the strongest"—into his dictatorship. He starts a brutal invasion of the Human Empire wherein he uses strategies that cause unnecessary deaths on his own side and uses members of his own army as Demihuman sacrifices to empower his sorceress. Contacting his allies in the Real World, Gabriel summons thousands of unaware players to kill AIs while believing that they were inside just another game, even letting them kill Dark Territory forces. Defined by his megalomania and cruelty, Gabriel goes so far as to think of the possibility of destroying the Underworld and killing every AI in it after his victory.
- Vassago Casals, also called PoH (short for Prince of Hell), is forced to become a criminal because of unfortunate circumstances, but he proves his vileness by willingly becoming a murderer. After entering SAO to kill a target, Vassago becomes the founder of the Laughing Coffin guild, where he rallies together the worst of those trapped in the game and has them slaughter their fellow players, simply for the sheer joy that Vassago takes in seeing East Asians kill each other. Later betraying his own Guild and abandoning it to die, Vassago corrupts other players and sends them to kill those who had participated in the Laughing Coffin's downfall. Vassago later returns as a member of Glowgen Defence Systems, becoming Gabriel Miller's right-hand man and leading Gabriel's brutal invasion of the Human Territory. When Japanese players appear to try to contain the invasion, Vassago contacts unaware players, lies to them about the situation, and connects them to the Underworld. After finding a comatose Kirito, Vassago tortures him and promises to torture his loved ones to death. A sadistic murderer, Vassago proves his sheer vileness by always taking bad situations and making them worse for his own amusement.
- Dee Eye Ell is the leader of the Dark Mage Guild who wants to become a second Administrator and whose desires to take control of the Dark Territory were interrupted by the arrival of Dark God Vecta, after which she becomes one of his generals. She orders the release of all 800 Minions to attack the enemy, knowing that they will kill her Demihuman allies, whom she despises. When her plans to use the spatial resources from the dead militia fail, Vecta suggests the sacrifice of 3,000 orcs to recharge energy, which she cheerfully carries out. When under attack, Dee Eye Ell murders her own subordinates to drain their life to save herself. When she detects Leafa's arrival, Dee Eye Ell drains her energy in an excruciatingly painful process, during which the anime depicts her usage of tentacles as rape. When the orc leader Lilpilin protests, Dee Eye Ell proceeds to insult his species and tries to kill him before dying at Leafa's hands, unable to understand why a human would save a orc.
- The BFG: The Fleshlumpeater, leader of the giants, is a savage brute who loves to devour children. Stealing into the human world every night to eat them, the Fleshlumpeater has been responsible for countless deaths. Later glimpsed by Sophie and the Big Friendly Giant preparing to devour a little boy, Fleshlumpeater leads his giants to attack schools full of children, leaving bones strewn all about. and violates the taboo of giant not killing giant to attempt to murder the BFG at the end.
- 91 Days: Fango is the psychotic enforcer of the Orco Family who introduces himself by beating Tigre to near-death, then causing a shootout in a bar. Later Fango has a teenage boy killed and shoots right through a prostitute to kill Avilio Bruno, who was hired to kill him. When Don Orco refuses to declare war on the Vanettis for putting a hit on him, Fango stabs one of Orco's men with a fork and works with Avilio and Nero to overthrow Orco, ending with him killing Orco and feeding him to his men. Taking over Orco's crime syndicate, Fango starts a gang war which kills countless people, and nearly kills the wife and daughter of prohibition agent Murphy to force him to back down. Fango also forces Corteo to make his booze for him only to sell Corteo out to be killed by Vanettis after Fango got Corteo's recipe from a prohibition agent he killed; Fango also intends to betray the Vanettis.
- Dracula, Motherf**ker!, by Alex de Campi & Erica Henderson: The ancient evil that is Dracula is a cruel being who awakens in modern times and goes on a killing spree, murdering multiple innocents while turning two into his brides. Using photographer Quincy Harker's editor as a pawn, Dracula then has him drained by his new brides, with it being later revealed that Dracula seduces young women to become his wives and plays them against one another. Dracula has them feed off innocent blood, before destroying them to increase his own power, with only three ever surviving his grip.
- Antebellum:
- Blake Denton, aka "the General" or "Him", is a racist Southern senator seeking to reestablish the Confederate way of life. Having black people kidnapped and made into slaves where they are beaten, molested and killed, Denton has the heroine Veronica Henley abducted and regularly rapes her as his personal slave, fueled by nothing more than racism and cruelty.
- Elizabeth, Denton's daughter, is one of the chief figures of the "Plantation". Elizabeth is the one who selects the kidnapping victims, having them abducted to become slaves where they are tortured and stripped of all humanity, even implying at one point that she wishes to enslave Veronica's young daughter. After her father's death, Elizabeth tries to hunt Veronica down and murder her, gloating in how she was the one who built the operation.
- Captain Jasper, Elizabeth's husband, as much a racist thug as his father-in-law, runs the fields where he subjects slaves to the worst mistreatment and joyfully hunts down any escapees before murdering them and throwing the bodies in a crematorium. The one who helped kidnap Veronica, Jasper allows his men to beat and rape slaves at their leisure, all with the same sadistic enjoyment.
- The Rebirth & New Moon Rising: Mary Lou Summers, aka Cheryl, is revealed as the werewolf haunting the Budapest castle, killing all other guests while drawing out the fear and terror to sow more distrust. After manipulating another guest named David after eliminating all the others, Mary Lou murders the werewolf hunting Count before tearing David apart. Later returning in a rural town after murdering a woman to claim her identity, Mary Lou continues her murders while trying to frame an innocent man as the werewolf.
- The Mortuary Collection (2019): Charlotte Gibbons, the Boggy Bay Tooth Fairy, is a twisted murderer who preys on children, with over ten victims murdered and cannibalized with a tooth removed as part of her trophy collection. Revealed as the "babysitter", under the guise of Sam, babysitting a boy named Logan, Charlotte murders the real babysitter and kills Logan before setting him in the oven for her dinner. Coming to the Raven's End mortuary to retrieve a trophy, she attempts to murder mortician Montgomery Dark before becoming the new keeper of the Mortuary and its stories, still preying on the children who fall into her clutches when she can.
- Undead Pool (2007): The two brothers collectively known as "Doctor" are a pair of lascivious twin scientists who kidnap women to act as their sex slaves. Kidnapping Aki Kitashima to train her as an underwater assassin to be sold off, one of the brothers regularly rapes her while his brother rapes the woman Sayaka Motoshita. After Aki escapes and gains amnesia, the brothers send out Sayaka to track her down, and infects Aki's school with a zombie virus disguised as a vaccine that turns everybody into the undead. One of the brothers sneaks into the school, skins the swim teacher's face off to disguise himself, and slaughters the entire swim team to get to Aki. After his brother perishes, the remaining brother has Sayaka killed after she served her purpose and tries to rape Aki himself.
- The Wailing: The seemingly-friendly shaman Il-Gwang and the Japanese hermit—actually a demonic entity—are revealed to be in league with each other and responsible for the horror plaguing the rural village that is the film's setting. The two send in a Hate Plague to the village, which results in those infected murdering those around them before dying. When the police officer Jong-Goo investigates, they mislead him, resulting his young daughter being infected. Showing almost no emotion when his guard dog is beaten to near-death, and letting him get picked apart by crows, the hermit revives a dead man as a walking corpse to kill Jong-Goo and his friends. Meanwhile, Il-Gwang feigns at being helpful while weakening the protections of the village's actual guardian spirit, finally resulting in Jong-Goo's death when his daughter kills him before snapping photos of the bodies, revealing that he keeps pictures of the victims as souvenirs of his deeds, while the hermit does the same to a church deacon, unveiling his true form before killing him.
- The Witches (1990): The Grand High Witch, the most wicked woman in all the world, is the leader of the Witches who promotes a system of constantly disposing of children. Losing her patience with slow progress, the Grand High Witch decides to have all the children of England turned into mice to have them exterminated, transforming young Bruno Jenkins and young protagonist Luke into mice after attempting to trap Luke by almost murdering a baby.
- The Wolf of Snow Hollow (2020): The titular "wolf", Paul Canury, is a sadistic killer who dresses as a werewolf to murder people. Tearing apart a vacationer and later a skiing instructor, Paul proceeds to murder a woman who had an unfortunate encounter with her three-year-old daughter and then a police officer before attempting to murder the first cop who finds him.
- Dracula in Istanbul: The Unauthorized Version of the Gothic Classic: Dracula of Transylvania is revealed as the wicked Prince Vlad III who tortured and slaughtered his way through Turkish civilians and taking the Turkish soldiers to be impaled in rows thousands-long across the Danube river. Dracula feeds a baby to his brides, having the mother torn apart by wolves, and murders the innocent Turkish beauty Sadan to make her into a vampire before attempting to do the same to the hero's own wife.
- Ghost Story, by Peter Straub::
- The creature named as "Alma Mobley", an ancient creature that helped spawn the myths of vampires, is a sadist with ages of seducing, manipulating and driving men to madness and death. Having arrived in Millburn to kill more, and being temporarily stopped by the Chowder Society, Alma returns years later to destroy them and all close to them, breaking their minds and killing them horribly while attempting to wipe out Millburn itself.
- Alma's right-hand monster, Gregory Bate, was a sadist who molested his young siblings. Upon his death, Gregory bargains with Alma to become a creature like her and becomes a vicious Serial Killer, brutally killing the inhabitants of Millburn while using the enslaved shade of his dead little brother Fenny, eating residents alive while glorying in the sadism and attempt to destroy Millburn.
- The Hellfire Club, by Peter Straub: Dick Dart, real name Norman, is a misogynist serial killer and rapist responsible for raping and torturing four women he judged as meaningless. Kidnapping heroine Nora Chancel due to a belief she is as sick as he is, Dart regularly rapes and abuses her, attempting to have her torture others to death with him before attempting to recapture her and murder even more women.
- On Devil's Wings, by M.J. Meade: Lamashtu was once a deity who forced women to miscarry for fun and had children sacrificed in her name until she was bound by fellow goddess Nyx. Awakening as Elizabeth Báthory centuries later, Lamashtu fell in love with murder once again and after her killing spree, took to London as Jack the Ripper to enjoy one anew, targeting prostitutes to avoid attention. Making a pact with another evil goddess against Nyx, Lamashtu makes every effort to torment and kills those around the reborn Nyx, her long life leading her to a body count in the thousands.
- Powers of Darkness: Dracula, in this Icelandic rewrite, is a Satanist who runs a dark cult and preys on the innocent. Slaughtering many over the course of his unlife, Dracula conducts regular acts of Human Sacrifice where humans are killed so he may then bathe in their blood. Trapping Jonathan Harker in his castle, Dracula intends to feed him to his countess and take over as many of the world's governments as he can to enact his Satanic conspiracy and Take Over the World.
- The Tales of Many Orcs duology, by Shane Michael Murray: The Lady of Firebrand Peak is a menacing dragon who enjoys needlessly terrorizing innocents. Asserting her dominance over the various races in the land, the Lady routinely kidnaps innocents and holds them prisoner before cooking and eating them alive. After choosing Talking-Wind to be her next meal, the Lady forces him to sacrifice one of the orcs in his village to prolong his life. Once captured, Talking-Wind watches firsthand as she devours two prisoners; he later performs a Mercy Kill so the orc he chose to be sacrificed won't suffer. Furious, the Lady tortures and marks Talking-Wind for death, and later chases him across the country as he tries to flee from her. Amassing a huge orc army, the Lady attacks the city of Tooyk just to find Talking-Wind, causing wanton destruction and murdering hundreds of innocents. When the Lady finally corners Talking-Wind on a cliff, she pushes him off, hoping that he'll survive the fall just so he'll break and beg for death.
- Spooksville: Madeline Templeton, far worse than in the books, was originally a witch who was going to be burned at the stake but escaped her fate via the Raven's Eye. Her only living descendant is Ann Templeton, who is really a slave of her supposed dragon Moorpark, who in turn works for Madeline, and makes Ann do various villainous deeds, such as afflicting Adam's friend Sally with a curse that nearly kills her. In "The Dark Corner", Ann tries to use a spell to reunite Adam with Laurel, his Missing Mom. The spell takes them to a Parallel Universe where Madeline rules and has ruined most of the world with a Zombie Apocalypse. The gang manages to rescue Laurel, but she remembers little about how she got stuck there. In one episode, we find out a crazy homeless guy who calls himself "The Mayor" really was the Mayor, until Madeline used a spell to drive him insane. At the end, we find out Madeline has survived so long by transferring her spirit into her descendants, which basically erases their personality and makes them a copy of her, and that all the evil things Ann did were either under duress or an attempt to avoid getting possessed herself. We also find out that Madeline either somehow possessed Laurel or is her in disguise.
- Van Helsing: The Novel, by Kevin Ryan: Dracula is a predator devoid of any qualities but malice and cruelty. Seducing Victor Frankenstein into making his monster, Dracula murders him and later unleashes his young to wipe out a Transylvanian town. Attempting to turn Anna Valerious into his monstrous bride as he's done to other innocent girls, Dracula intends to awaken his children and feed them much of the world out of spite towards God.
- Wounded Past (originally A Lei do Amor): Magnólia Costa Leitão is Pedro's Wicked Stepmother, and the "saint" of São Dimas who hides pure evil under a mask of religiosity and godliness. When young, Magnólia deceived Tião Bezerra and burned him with iron, leading him to become a cruel, abusive man. Magnólia cheats on her husband with Ciro, whom she corrupts to the point of deceiving his blind mother and also have him marry her own daughter. Her affair having been discovered, Magnólia kills her daughter-in-law and threatens her baby granddaughter's life, and later kills a sociologist named Beth. Hastening the death of her husband's former wife, Magnólia marries him out for greed, only to twice try to have him killed, resulting in the death of his secretary. When her granddaughter's boyfriend finds out that she killed Beth, Magnólia kills him in cold blood and later tries to kill her granddaughter. When arrested, Magnólia kills the head of the inmates and runs away with the help of her son, who despite doing everything for the mother is despised and humiliated by her. Then, Magnólia kidnaps Pedro's pregnant wife, torturing her and leaving her in an isolated house to die.
- Unproduced Ghost Rider script
:
- Ambrose Starke, the Devil, wants to regain his old strength by way of murder and corruption. Approaching Johnny Blaze after his pregnant fiancée Roxanne gets caught in a fatal accident, Starke made a deal that changed him into Ghost Rider to save Roxanne's life, only to put her into a coma and her child to remain unborn. After saving the life of Nomi, Starke conceived a child with her named Rain, sending Nomi's abusive ex-husband Billy-Ray Carrigan out to acquire her. Killing a car dealer, his wife, and his son for stiffing him on a rental, Starke murders Nomi himself and grants the mortally wounded Carrigan with the power of decay, sending him out to once again acquire Rain that results in a church mission massacre.
- Billy-Ray Carrigan is a former blackjack dealer turned hired gunman for Ambrose Starke tasked with acquiring his ex-wife Nomi's daughter Rain. An abusive husband who previously tried to murder Nomi and Rain over the latter's birth, Carrigan becomes worse after he's killed by Ghost Rider. Resurrected by Starke as the Scarecrow, Carrigan invades a church mission looking for Rain, gleefully slaughtering and tearing apart dozens of priests in his path.
- Scream 2 (Kevin Williamson's original screenplay
): Derek and Hallie are a pair of young psychopaths seeking to imitate—and exceed—the original Woodsboro killings to achieve Fame Through Infamy. Backed by the vengeful Mrs. Loomis and sharing the mantle of Ghostface, Derek and Hallie meticulously infiltrate Sidney Prescott's social circle, becoming her new boyfriend and roommate respectively. Filming their own copycat murders, they murder a couple at the sneak preview of Stab and push another college student into a glass door to the deck below, mutilating her chest and leaving her body hanging from a tree. Stepping up their game and killing Randy Meeks, they proceed to murder two police officers that were in their way and even Hallie's own innocent boyfriend, Mickey, before sadistically attaching the corpse of one of Sidney's friends, Joel, to a wall for a cheap laugh. Planning on finishing their massacre with the triple murder of Sidney, Gale and Cotton, Derek and Hallie wanted nothing more than to send a message to the happy endings of Hollywood and prove their own nihilistic philosophy of punishing innocents and inheriting the earth as murderers.
- Sherlock Holmes and the Vengeance of Dracula
: Count Vlad Dracula is an aristocratic vampire who seeks to rule England as his new vampire dynasty. Originally Vlad the Impaler of Romania who was previously slain by Abraham Van Helsing, Lord Arthur Holmwood, and John Seward for the murder of Lucy Westenra, Dracula survived and sought revenge. Traveling to London and killing those who stand in his way, Dracula kills Holmwood and Seward before forming an alliance with Professor Moriarty. Seeking the death of Sherlock Holmes, Dracula turns Moriarty's henchmen into his own personal servants, while killing those who fail him, an act which disgusts even Moriarty. Turning Sherlock's love Constance Blackwell and Watson against him, Dracula later devises a plan to inject his own blood into the city's gaslight network to turn everybody in London into vampires, preparing to rule a country of his own kind with Constance by his side as queen.
- Unproduced Venom script
: Cletus Kasady is a chaos-loving psychopath with a love of murder and mayhem. A bad seed who was sent to the St. Estes Psychiatric Hospital as a child after killing his mother, Cletus would later burn down the hospital—which resulted in five deaths—and hold the young Eddy Brock hostage as a way to escape. Spending the next twenty years on a cross country killing spree under the name "Carnage" that resulted in 87 claimed victims, Cletus would brag to Brock about his murders while sending him tape recordings of his victims. Getting arrested and put on Death Row, Cletus makes contact with the Blood Hunter symbiote and goes on a mass killing spree. Seeking to spread chaos across New York, Cletus goes on live television to encourage his fans to incite violent riots, and later causes a city-wide blackout, relishing in all the death and terror he's caused.
- Rosthaut is the leader of a pack of Gareth's Gargoyles driven by ambitions and a strong hatred for humans. After having learnt about the existence of the fey realm of Mandariel sealed inside a crystal ball and its magical connection to Gareth, he attempts to obliterate Mandariel to cause a magical backlash that would destroy large parts of the city and kill thousands of humans, allowing him and his Gargoyles to rule over the remaining survivors. Despite his claims that all his action are done to free the Gargoyles from the shackles of slavery, he treats the members of his pack as more or less expendable tools which he would sacrifices without a second thought to cover his own escape. Showing that deep down, the only creature Rosthaut truly cares about is himself.
- Aarbilar is a ruthless wizard and former servant of Demon Emperor Galotta. After Galotta's defeat in Gareth, Aarbilar hid among the city's beggars and allied himself with the Gargoyle Rosthaut, sharing both his hatred for the city and desire to rule. To learn more about the magical connection between Gareth and Mandariel, Aarbilar summoned a powerful demon whose killed several people and endangered the lives of dozens more. Then, after obtaining the necessary knowledge, Aarbilar began with a ritual that would allow the demon to enter Mandariel and tear the realm apart from within. Not afraid to get his own hands dirty, he personally sneaks into a temple of Peraine and attempts to desecrate it by murdering several priests, so that his summoned demon would be able to gain access.
- Dragalia Lost:
- "Scars of the Syndicate": The Doctor is a major figure of The Syndicate, a group dealing with shady fusion experiments. He and his group have raided many hamlets just to further their goals and to gather test subjects. He had a peculiar fixation to the term "evil"; he even describes it as sacrificing moral standing to further advance civilization. Failures such as the event character Aldred, from a botched fusion with the dragon Barbatos, are seen as rubbish to the Doctor. When Prince Euden gets involved, the Doctor tells him about a being of calamity, Aspidochelone, and proposes to have the Prince fuse with it. Euden declines and seeks to take it down, which meant taking out one of the Doctor's manticores with Aldred's help to access the lair; unfortunately for Aldred, said manticore was his sister. The Doctor later lures Euden and his group to a nearby village into a trap that creates a powerful barrier, just so he can make the proposal again. Once Aldred saves the group, the Doctor decides that if the Prince won't fuse with Aspidochelone, he'll just fuse himself with the fiend and take them on. He meets his end at the hands of Euden and Aldred, but not without telling them that his death will only further the Syndicate's goals.
- "Forgotten Truths": Augus is a cold, calculating general in a war between humans and dragons. Wishing for humans to dominate the land, he will stop at nothing to get what he wants, even if he must use threats. One gambit he pulls off to take out as many dragons as possible involves deliberately destroying their habitats, goading them to attack the capital city that he lined with Mana Bombs. The capital's residents were not informed of his gambit; as a result, millions of lives were lost, both human and dragon, once the Mana Bombs were set off. In the end, he had no respect for life, as seen with his gleeful reactions to the demon Morsayati's havoc.
- The Great Gaias: Malviticus, the God of Darkness, despises the other gods for not giving him the respect he thinks he deserves. When the goddess Auroria descends upon Tenat as an elf, Malviticus summons a demon to possess her and force her to kill the elves she created. After his banishment from the Celestial Realm, Malviticus uses his human avatar, Grindelwald Maultor, to brainwash humanity's immortal leaders into serving him. Malviticus establishes the totalitarian Validian Empire, scapegoats the elves for the wasteland he secretly caused, and wages a genocidal war against the elven nations, both to spite the other gods and to claim an artifact that can rewrite the past in his favor. Regaining his divine form millennia later, Malviticus slaughters as many gods as he can in order to take over Tenat and the Celestial Realm.
- Onechanbara series:
- Himiko, debuting in Bikini Samurai Squad, is a centuries-old scientist and the head of the Organization, a company that kidnaps people with Baneful Blood to perform experiments on. Kidnapping various men—including Anna's brother—Himiko injects them with the Blood to make them her obedient, indestructible aides. Desiring to gain eternal youth by drinking Saki's Blood, she unleashes an army of zombies upon Tokyo, sending out Misery and her indestructible aides to collect whatever Blood remains. After drinking the Blood, Himiko plans to rule the world and wipe out the entire Baneful Blood bloodline until she's the only survivor. Returning in Special, Himiko wipes Aya and friends' memories and places them inside a maze, preparing to kill them all and acquire more power for herself after they've completed it.
- Origin: Eva is the head of the Organization who seeks power through the Baneful Blood. Murdering Aya and Saki's mother and earning the wrath of Oboro, Eva manipulates Saki into hating her family, using her as a way to slaughter Aya and Oboro to take their Baneful Blood. Sending her zombies out to wipe out a hospital and an entire city, Eva also has expendable clones created to kill Aya and Saki, attempting to have one named Lei killed for gaining emotions. After sending Oboro to kill his daughters, Eva promises Aya and Saki that she'll eat their hearts before attempting to kill them both herself.
- Seven Mysteries:
- Original game: The Headmaster of the school, fearing that his academy will be shut down once word of a haunting spirit gets out, sets out to keep it all a secret to protect his reputation. Blackmailing Sang and his friend Linh to act as his "secret keepers" after they murdered Thuy and several other students, the Headmaster has them kill any first year transfer student who might be aware of the hauntings, having them dispose of the bodies in a secret room, of which there are dozens of corpses. Depending on the ending, the Headmaster can have Sang kill protagonist Tuan or frame Tuan for the murders, getting him Wrongfully Committed to an asylum.
- The Last Page remake: The unnamed demon is a sadistic entity who placed a curse on the academy. Killing the students there for fun, the demon poses the deaths as accidents and suicides. Possessing the body of the lonely Sang in order to devour his soul, the demon blackmails the academy's Headmaster to allow him to continue his murders, killing any transfer student who might know of the hauntings. Creating illusions to break Neal and Nathan's minds, the demon burns the school to get Neal's attention, before forcing him to kill his friend Sang. Should Neal not kill Sang, the demon has the city's inhabitants disappear, with only Nathan left to witness the city's slow descent into literal darkness.
Edited by ACW on Nov 1st 2020 at 12:50:59 PM
I'd make a tagline about racism potholing Politically Incorrect Villain for Antebellum, it's a trait common to all three keepers.
Alright, I think I'll work on the EP either later today or tomorrow.
Anyway, here are some pothole suggestions:
- Fleshlumpeater: Our Giants Are Bigger at "giants", Ape Shall Never Kill Ape at "giant not killing giant"
- Dracula Motherfucker: Ancient Evil at "ancient evil", Vampiric Draining at "drained"
- Captain Jasper: Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil at "rape"
- Mary Lou Summers: Our Werewolves Are Different at "werewolf"
- The Wailing candidates: Creepy Crows at "crows"
- Sherlock Dracula: Sherlock Holmes at "Sherlock Holmes"
I might have more later.
Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Nov 1st 2020 at 11:00:20 AM
More potholes:
- Elizabeth Denton: Evil Gloating at "gloating"
- Turkish Dracula: Vampire's Harem at "his brides"
- "Alma Mobley": The Vamp at her name
- Gregory Bate: The Dragon at "right-hand monster"
- Dick Dart: A Dick in Name at his name, Cold-Blooded Torture at "torture"
- Lady of Firebrand Peak: Cold-Blooded Torture at "tortures"
- Van Helsing Novelization Dracula: Rage Against the Heavens at "spite towards God"
- Carrigan: Til Murder Do Us Part at "tried to murder Nomi", Offing the Offspring at the subsequent "Rain"
- Aarbilar: Ambition Is Evil at "desire to rule", Evil Tainted the Place at "desecrate it"
- Augus: The Unfettered at "he will stop at nothing to get what he wants"
- Eva: Night of the Living Mooks at "zombies"
Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Nov 1st 2020 at 11:10:50 AM
How's this?
- Antebellum has these three racists:
- Blake Denton, aka "the General" or "Him", is a Southern senator seeking to reestablish the Confederate way of life. Having black people kidnapped and made into slaves where they are beaten, molested and killed, Denton has the heroine Veronica Henley abducted and regularly rapes her as his personal slave, fueled by nothing more than racism and cruelty.
- Elizabeth, Denton's daughter, is one of the chief figures of the "Plantation". Elizabeth is the one who selects the kidnapping victims, having them abducted to become slaves where they are tortured and stripped of all humanity, even implying at one point that she wishes to enslave Veronica's young daughter. After her father's death, Elizabeth tries to hunt Veronica down and murder her, gloating in how she was the one who built the operation.
- Captain Jasper, Elizabeth's husband, as much a racist thug as his father-in-law, runs the fields where he subjects slaves to the worst mistreatment and joyfully hunts down any escapees before murdering them and throwing the bodies in a crematorium. The one who helped kidnap Veronica, Jasper allows his men to beat and rape slaves at their leisure, all with the same sadistic enjoyment.
Edited by ACW on Nov 1st 2020 at 2:52:09 PM
Ah right the other character from Dracula's child who really impressed me.
Who is Ileana ?
A psyhcotic worshipper of Dracula, the vampiress Ileana is the mastermind behind his revival. Seducing men to her cause she has them vamprised and bent to her will and the worship of the dark lord even corrupting viewpoint character Maurice into one of her pets. Before tossing them away like their nothing.
Anyway Illeana bombs a meeting between London's three gangs, killing or mortally wounding dozens and starting a Mob War to throw the city into chaos. She also seduces a police inspector into stopping any investigations and intentionally creating more suspicions and mistrust among the populace well laughing about it afterwards. Next she has Temperance Hall bombed as well as the funeral of Van Helsing taking multitudes more. Her Mo for these being to seduce one of her followers into going their and acting as a suicide bomber, sacrficing their lives for her...not that she gives a shit.
Kindapping Mina, Illeana uses one of her patsies: the head of london's ruling council as Dracula's new host. Dracula creates a Police State using the chaos in order to instill "order" turning London into chaos. Illeana and Dracula gleefully hunting the "criminals" to feed on and mutiliate.
During the chaos, Dracula has her kidnap Quincy and prepare him for the rite and Drac corrupting him. Where Illeana reveals to Maurice that she views him as a pawn. Quincy talks to Maurice and convinces him to help him as he has both regrets and realised Ileana has used him by just leaving and bringing him to drac. Meanwhile Seward engages with Ileana and shoves a holy water bottle down her throat, destroying her.
Redeeming qualities ?
No. No way. Shes a batshit Ax-Crazy fanatic who waxes about how her master will be getting his revenge on the entirety of the world and the carnage it will delightfully bring well gleefully laughing at people dying. Shes a Psycho Supporter who wants to see her boss back on top.
She uses and seduces people before getting rid of them and views them as just pawns. What helps is that since Dracula only gets revived at the half way point of the book, shes the one pulling the strings for the carnage that occurs in the first half of the book including the bombings and chaos. That part is all her.
Heinous standard?
Oh yeah Dracula's revival isn't possible without her. She seduces men into being her suicide bombers and uses them to wipe out huge swathes of people well inteionally throwing the city into chaos. These bombings kill large quanities of people and are used by drac to take over. Plus he was only able to get a new host body thanks to her in the first place, meaning all of his evil shit in the second half of the book is on her too. I'd say for her tier of The Dragon she makes it.
Conclusion ?'
A keep and suprisioning one at that going into the book.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Yes to Epstein, who didn’t kill himself, and to Ileana.
It's just a meme, not a political statement.
Edited by Critica7 on Nov 1st 2020 at 4:19:40 AM
Check out my current fanfiction project.Alright, here's my EP:
What's the work?
What if Snape Died?
is a For Want Of A Nail/What If? fic where James Potter fails to save Severus Snape from the Deadly Prank Sirius set up for him. This results in some pretty serious changes, but some things remain the same, like the monstrosity of our contender:
Who is he? What has he done?
Lord Voldemort is a malevolent dark wizard and perhaps the greatest threat Magical Britain has ever known. Because Snape wasn't around to hear Trelawney's prophecy, Voldemort never learned of it, meaning he never attacked the Potters that faithful night. And so he continues his reign of terror for about four years longer than in canon. He enters the story leading thirty Death Eaters in an attack on Diagon Alley while the Potter family is out on a shopping trip. He recognizes James and Lily as two Order of the Phoenix members who had defied him multiple times before, greets them in a Faux Affably Evil way, and hits their son Harry with the Cruciatus curse, then tries to Avada Kedavra him. When Lily jumps in the way and dies, he tries again, but the sacrificial protection activates, and his body is destroyed. The Death Eaters, seeing their master apparently die, flee in panic. And when James comes to comfort Harry, he sees a lighting bolt-shaped cut on his forehead, neither of them noticing eyewitnesses calling Harry the Boy Who Lived.
The day after Lily's death, Albus Dumbledore shows up at the Potters' house, saying Harry has to be protected from possible reprisals. When James refuses to let Harry live with the Dursleys, Dumbledore offers an alternative: give James the position of Defense Against the Dark Arts professor and let him and Harry live at Hogwarts.
Time passes and things change. The Potters befriend the Longbottoms, the Weasleys and the Grangers. James remarries to Alice Longbottom, widowed since Lucius Malfoy killed her husband, and Dumbledore lets them in on Voldemort's horcruxes. Eventually, it becomes time for Percy Weasley to start at Hogwarts. It's at this point that one of Voldemort's plans is put into action.
Acting under Narcissa's instructions, Draco tricks Percy into accepting Tom Riddle's diary as a gift. The diary starts influencing Percy, and he opens the Chamber of Secrets, unleashing the basilisk inside on an unsuspecting student body. Like in canon, Filch's cat Mrs. Norris is the first victim, but the rest are different. Charlie Weasley and a muggle-born girl named Sarah Womack see the basilisk through the Blood Baron, and all three get petrified. A few weeks later, so is a Hufflepuff girl named Marsha Wilcox. This time, Percy comes to at the scene of the crime, and realizes he's being possessed. He tries to burn the diary, but it won't let him. He's walked into the Chamber of Secrets, where his life is drained so that the diary horcrux can restore Voldemort's body. When James, Alice and Harry enter the Chamber, he sends the basilisk after them, but it's killed by a reducto to the mouth and Alice destroys the diary with fiendfyre.
More time passes. Narcissa joins her husband in Azkaban and Draco is adopted by Sirius. The quest to find and destroy Voldemort's horcruxes continues, and the soul fragment in Harry is destroyed by an experimental potion made from basilisk venom. Harry, Neville, Ron and Hermione become students at Hogwarts. Quirrel becomes Astronomy professor after Sinistra is cursed from behind by an unknown assailant and sent to St. Mungo's. During Harry's first Quidditch game, Quirrel on Voldemort's instruction jinxes his broom, but he gets caught in the act by James, stunned, and captured. He gets taken to the Hospital Wing, where Madam Pomfrey discovers a dark curse on his head. Quirrel cruciates James and Harry, but is subdued and killed. With no horcruxes left, Voldemort dies with him.
Exit Tom Riddle.
Heinous standard?
While this version of Voldemort doesn't have as long a rap sheet as his canon counterpart, he makes up for it in sheer nastiness. When one of your first onscreen deeds is to torture and try to kill a five-year-old boy, you know you're bad news; and since this version of Voldemort never knew about the prophecy, he didn't even have self-preservation as a reason to go after Harry Potter. Opening the Chamber of Secrets to release the basilisk was still his plan, meaning the many students who would have died if it weren't for them being lucky enough to not look at Salazar's pet directly are on his hands. And he exits the story trying to kill Harry and torturing more people. Not as much as in canon, but he more than stands out. Lucius Malfoy only kills one person, everything Narcissa did was following his instructions, Bellatrix Lestrange doesn't do much besides attack the Potters and Dumbledore, and Umbridge and Greyback don't show up at all.
Freudian Excuse? Redeeming qualities? Other mitigating factors?
Not a one. The closest he gets is promising not to make Harry watch his parents die, and considering the context, it in no way even resembles a genuine Pet the Dog moment.
Verdict?
A keeper. I think this is our 4th Voldemort.

Well, looking it up, Voldemort canonically entrusted his diary to the Malfoys so it could be used to reopen the Chamber of Secrets. There's no evidence that this wasn't the case here, so I feel a lot more comfortable giving him an EP.
Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Nov 1st 2020 at 9:42:47 AM