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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

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What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#223726: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:51:12 AM

Yup. I think we did that with Kenzie and Gennaro Series when it only had one, then moved it when it got the second (I think Socia was first).

DrUnknown Since: May, 2020
#223727: Aug 2nd 2020 at 9:59:43 AM

[tup] to Robot Chief, Joker and Lex Luthor, and Thomas Parnell.

43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#223728: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:01:48 AM

Yes to Loker, Parnell and throwing up my approval of Morgen's trimming.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#223729: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:06:50 AM

  • Darkseid, who later appeared in Justice League and was the top threat of the entire DCAU, is the Evil Overlord of the wasteland planet Apokolips, and ultimately desired total dominion over all life in the universe. To achieve this end, he forever seeks the cosmic power of the Anti-Life Equation to use as the ultimate weapon. Incapable of love or empathy, he abused his loyal son Kalibak, handed over his adopted son Scott Free to be tortured and brainwashed by Granny Goodness, and attempted to murder his other son, Orion, for opposing him. His servants are likewise subjected to torture or death should they fail or even question him. Setting his sights on conquering Earth, Darkseid launched a full-scale invasion, only relenting when the planet was declared off-limits by Apokolips's sister planet, New Genesis. To compensate, Darkseid murdered Dan Turpin solely to spite Superman. He would make numerous more attempts to conquer or annihilate the planet, including attempting to destroy it with an comet and brainwashing Superman into leading an attack on his adopted world, turning the Man of Steel into a pariah for years—but not before Darkseid had the brainwashed Superman basically raped. He later attempted to use Brainiac's programming to collect the Anti-Life Equation and bend the universe to his will, leading to his death in a battle with Superman. Upon his resurrection, Darkseid immediately launched another invasion on Earth, not out of a desire for power, but solely to make Superman suffer. Ruthless and tyrannical, Darkseid is Superman's greatest enemy, and one of the few villains he has outright tried to kill.
  • Psycho Pirate, real name Roger Hayden, from season 1's "Inside the Outsiders!", is a sadistic supervillain who feeds on the emotions of his victims until he destroys their minds, standing out even among world conquerors and city destroyers as a despicable predator. Kidnapping three young, rookie superheroes, the Outsiders, as his latest victims, Psycho Pirate invades their minds and mentally tortures them with their worst fears and bad experiences. Forcing Katana to relive her master's death over and over, subjecting Black Lightning to constant hate and prejudice from everyone around him, and convincing Metamorpho that his supposed friends see him as a freak, Psycho Pirate severely harms the teenagers' psyches and even gets them to nearly snuff one another out. When Batman arrives, Psycho Pirate subjects him to a horrid illusion of the Outsiders dying, hoping to force the hero to give in to his murderous hatred so Psycho Pirate can devour his emotions and mind for good.
  • The Chronicles of Riddick: In the extended cut, Lord Marshal Zhylaw was once given a prophecy by the air elemental Aereon that a Furyan would one day kill him, so he exterminated their entire race in a "private war" and personally strangled newborn infants. After becoming the holy half-dead Lord Marshal of the Necromongers, Zhylaw continues their genocidal campaigns, wiping out millions of colonists and forcibly converting the survivors. When one man objects to his demands for submission, he rips out his soul to make an example. Discovering that Riddick is the one prophesied to kill him, the Lord Marshal orders his death before trying to bargain with Riddick out of fear. He has Aereon captured to provide him with further revelation, charitably promising to spare her world "for last". During his final fight with Riddick, he also kills Riddick's close friend Kyra. While Zhylaw professes to the Necromonger creed, he was still willing to throw his warrior ideals out the window as soon as he felt truly threatened, prompting Commander Vaako to believe that he was no longer fit to lead them.
  • Demon Knight: The Collector is a demonic Bounty Hunter searching for the final key his species needs in order to bring about the apocalypse. The Collector is a soulless monster who hides behind a veneer and delights in joking as he leads his victims to damnation. When Frank Brayker, a Demon Knight entrusted to guard the final key from the demons, seals himself in a boardinghouse alongside its residents, the Collector summons an army of demons and lays siege. Through his psychic powers, the Collector is able to possess the humans in the boardinghouse by tempting them with their deepest desires. However, the Collector never provides what he offers and instead the boardinghouse residents, such as Cordelia and Uncle Wally are turned into low-level demons, tortured souls trapped in monstrous bodies that the Collector controls. At the film's climax, the Collector possesses a little boy through a comic book and uses him to mortally wound Brayker. With the last key in his possession, the Collector merrily chats with the sole survivor, Jeryline, about how humanity will be reduced to leftovers, and attempts to cut out her heart as a memento after he fails to corrupt her.
  • Ghost Town (1988): Devlin is the ruler of the titular Ghost Town. A wicked bandit, murderer and rapist in life who tortured, crucified and buried the sheriff alive, Devlin was caught in the man's Dying Curse for the town to be frozen in time until a lawman slew Devlin. Devlin spends his time tormenting the residents and killing those who displease him to add to the "voices". Devlin kidnaps travelers, including the heroine Kate, who he viciously abuses before slaughtering any who add the hero Sheriff Langley after torturing them as well.
  • Sweet Karma (2009): Tomas, despite his limited screen time, marks himself as the worst member of the Human Trafficking operation. A bully hated by his own co-workers, Tomas assists his superior Stefan in the kidnapping and pimping of innocent women, with Tomas selling them as strippers. Regularly raping and molesting his strippers, Tomas at one point lures one of his women to his car and rapes her, causing her to commit suicide the next morning. Seeking to take the deceased Galina's job in order to rape more women, Tomas reveals to Karma that he had forcefully slept with more than half of the strippers under his care.
  • Sweet Revenge (1987): Jeffrey Cicero is a human trafficker who conducts his business in Far East Asia. Running Cicero Research Foundation as a prison, Cicero has the women he's kidnapped drugged, then auctioned off to the highest bidder. Once reporter Jillian Grey and friends escape, Cicero orders his men to hunt them down, uncaring of the casualties in their way, which include an entire settlement of treasure hunters.
  • Terminator series: Skynet is a malevolent, megalomaniacal AI, who managed to gain sapience and became paranoid, thinking of humanity as a threat. Taking control over the nuclear warheads, Skynet launched them upon the world, killing billions and reducing the world to ruins. Creating the killer machines, Skynet used them to hunt down and kill any survivors as well as try to destroy the human resistance. Constantly sending Terminators to the past to kill John Connor, the future leader of the human resistance, Skynet tries to keep the future of the Earth as a post-apocalyptic nightmare, leading to the divergence in timelines after the first two films:
    • Rise of the Machines & Salvation: Sending its newest model to the past to kill John Connor and his future wife, Kate Brewster, Skynet also tried to have its Terminator activate it in the past, while it itself manipulates the humans, who created her, to give it control of all technology and weaponry, which it used to massacre all staff inside the laboratory and launch missiles across the world. In the future, Skynet has its Harvesters collect humans, young and old, whom it gathers in its concentration camps, where they are experimented on and then slaughtered. Using Marcus Wright, whom it transformed into a cyborg, to lure Kyle Reese and John Connor to itself in an attempt to destroy the resistance, Skynet then tries to trick the remaining humans into wiping themselves out.
    • Genisys: Disappointed that its machines are unable to destroy the resistance, Skynet captures countless humans and infects them with machine-phase matter in an attempt to turn them into its newest Terminators, leading to many of them dying in agony. Tricking humans into believing they destroyed it, Skynet takes the form of a human and names itself Alex and infiltrates the resistance, killing them all except John Connor, whom it manages to transform into its new Terminator and brainwash him to serve it. Sending Connor to the past to create an operating system known as Genisys, which makes people too reliant on technology, Skynet plans to use the new system to completely destroy humanity.
  • This version of Führer King Bradley is the Homunculus Pride and Dante's right-hand alongside Envy. Masterminding the genocide in Ishbal and repeating the atrocity in Reole, Bradley even unleashing a psychopath to hasten the second blood conflict. Using his position as Führer to help Dante create conflict in the hopes of a desperate alchemist creating another Philosopher's Stone, Bradley also enjoys the power of taking territory and murders any who find out about his Homunculus origins. Tormenting Roy Mustang when the two face off in the final arc, Bradley even strangles his own son to death in anger when the boy accidentally reveals his weakness.
  • Solf J. Kimblee stands out as even more insane and psychotic than his manga counterpart. A state alchemist with the ability to turn objects—and people—into explosives, Kimblee earned a reputation during the Ishbal genocide for his ruthlessness. As seen in early flashbacks, Kimblee was responsible for creating mass destruction in his district, all while laughing like a maniac. He also tortured Scar by sadistically blasting him apart one piece at a time, giving him the distinctive mark in his forehead. Later, Kimblee escapes the prison by using a fellow inmate as a bomb and starts working for Greed before betraying him to Frank Archer and being indirectly responsible for the Devil's Nest massacre. Kimblee is later assigned by Pride to reenact the Ishbal genocide in Reole, and tries to murder Al by transforming him into a walking time bomb.
  • Death and the Arrow (Tom Marlowe Adventures, #1), by Chris Priestley: Shepton is a former soldier who led an ambush on his own comrades to steal a caravan of silver, then shortly after massacred a Mohawk tribe, children included. When Tonsahoten, a survivor of the attack, comes back years later to get his revenge, Shepton shows no concern for the deaths of his friends, and later even expresses glee at the fact that he doesn't have to share the rest of the silver. When 15-year-old Tom Marlowe is unable to answer Shepton's question as to Tonsahoten's whereabouts, Shepton tries to kill Tom just for the hell of it.
  • From the New World: These two Predecessor Villains necessitate the brutal culling system of the present day "Ethics Committee":
    • The Emperor of Delight was a self-obsessed monster who made his entire populace clap during his coronation, immolating the first 200 to stop with his Psychic Powers. With his terrified population having to celebrate for three days in torment, after his passing, he was forever remembered as the "Emperor of Eternal Screams".
    • "Boy K" was a psychopathic "fiend" who used his powers to slaughter his fellow villagers. Starting with his teacher and classmates, K returned to the village and caused a bloodbath with many deaths. Immune to the "death feedback" programmed into humans to prevent them from attacking each other, K was delighted in massacring people unable to protect themselves from him.
  • Cursed: Father Carden is the leader of the Red Paladins, hoping to make a name for himself with the Pope by bringing the church into power in Camelot and wiping out the fey people. Carden is introduced having a fey boy taken to be killed, having wiped out twelve fey villages, including heroine Nimue's, which left few survivors. Carden has also taken and weaponized a young fey, Lancelot, into being the Paladins' top warrior for his ability to track other fey. Carden seeks out Nimue and the Sword of Power, having those who get in his way killed; notably, he has Nimue's friend Gawain tortured for information upon capture, and orders the torture of Nimue's child friend Squirrel when the latter tries to rescue Gawain, who dies of his injuries. Carden tries to play both sides of King Uther and Cumber's war, eventually siding with Cumber when Uther grants favour with the fey. As per their deal, Cumber's army is sent to massacre the fey refugees fleeing the kingdom, in return for the Paladins attacking Uther's camp, with Carden leading the latter attack. Carden then tries to personally execute Nimue when she's captured and brought before him.
  • The End of the F***ing World: Clive Koch has the dubious honor of being the only irredeemable character in the show. Hiding behind the mask of a polite and charming philosopher, Koch is in truth a vile sociopath who records himself violently raping women and takes pictures of their bodies as morbid trophies, with not even Alyssa being safe from him. The second season revealed even more of his dark and twisted nature, as he had manipulated a mentally-fragile woman named Bonnie into falling in love with him, treating her as a sex object and ignoring her attempts to communicate with him from prison.
  • Sabaton is known for its Horrible History Metal, which includes horrible people:
  • Sparzanza's "Mr. Fish": Albert Fish is a man with a god complex and a fetish for torturing children. He stalks the streets of New York City pretending to be a kindly old man, luring kids into his clutches. He then rape and tortures them to death, before eating their flesh. Aside from his sadism, Fish feels zero emotion, described as having "cold, dead eyes".
  • Mongul, in his first appearance, kidnapped Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and Steve Lombard in order to blackmail Superman into giving him the keys to Warworld, then tries to kill both Superman and Supergirl with the weapon. He later traveled to Prince Gavyn (one of the Starmen)'s homeworld, murdered Gavyn's sister, and tried to force Gavyn's girlfriend into marrying him so that he might take over the planet. Beaten by Gavyn and Superman, he seized control of a Sun-Eater and unleashed it on Earth's solar system, seeking to wipe out all human life. It was in his last appearance, however, in the iconic For the Man Who Has Everything storyline that Mongul showed just how low he could sink. Ambushing Superman on his birthday, Mongul used the Black Mercy plant to trap him in a fantasy world, from which Superman could only escape by sacrificing his heart's desire; in Mongul's own words "It must have been like tearing off your own arm." While Superman is occupied with this, Mongul tries to beat Wonder Woman to death, while gloating about how women are too weak to stop him. Eventually trapped by the same weapon he had used on Superman, Mongul dreams of a galaxy awash in bloodshed, with himself seated on a throne, orchestrating it all.
  • Ultraseven: Robot Chief ("Fourth Planet Android"), from "Nightmare on Planet 4", is the sociopathic racist robotic leader of the fourth planet. Long ago he was once part of the robots who were made to do the work on the planet, but when they noticed the inhabitants became lazy, he and the other robots took over the planet and enslaved them, treating them like an object to be disposed of. This happened so much that they needed to get people from another planet as slaves. Choosing Earth, Robot Chief uses remote control to hijack the spacecraft of Dan and Soga and bring them to his world. As he talks to Dan and Soga, he brutally beats his human secretary for making his coffee wrong. As he gives a tour, he shows the filming of the gangster movie where they use real ammunition against the human crew, killing them to make a scene in a movie, and brutally executing those who oppose him. When Dan and Soga escape, Robot Chief takes the assistant and another man who helped them escape to prepare them to be executed and readies his invasion force to attack Earth to collect more slaves.
  • Horace: The Man in Black and the Man in Grey are the leaders of "The Great and the Good" who believe that robots should be slaves to humans, and are far worse than the enemy robots. Using the robot Horace to create a race of robots as weapons of war to kill each other, when the robots instead revolt, the Men in Black and Grey flee to the moon with the world's leaders, leaving the rest of humanity to die. Waiting until Horace pacifies the robots with the NICE virus, the two capture and execute the Man in Black's and Horace's extended family and four scientists, including Heather, while making Horace watch, before dismantling Horace and throwing him in a chamber to die. Intending to wipe out all robots and replace them with ones that have no free will, the Man in Black modifies the NICE virus into the KILL virus, painfully turns the Ether Boss into a transmitter for the virus, and kills the Professor—his brother—for trying to stop him, while the Man in Gray attempts to kill the surviving family members, brutally beating Mr. Barry Silton and bragging of all the people he has tortured and killed as a CIA agent.
  • Ninja Gaiden franchise:
    • Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom: H.P. Clancy is an assistant to CIA agent A. Foster and the hidden true villain of the game. After hero Ryu Hayabusa slew the evil wizard Jaquio and a demon he summoned, the demon's destruction created a portal to another dimension that is releasing energy. Foster takes over what is left of Jaquio's fortress in the Amazon and renames it Castle Rock Fortress. Clancy and Foster begin to use the other-dimensional energy to perform experiments, setting up a lab to create nightmarish creatures called Bio-Noids. When Ryu's girlfriend, CIA agent Irene Lew, was investigating the lab, Clancy has a Bio-Noid that looks like Ryu seemingly kills Irene and then frames Ryu for her murder. After Ryu investigates the lab, Clancy approaches him and appears friendly, directing him to go to the Castle Rock Fortress, saying he cannot condone Foster's experiments. When Ryu confronts Foster, Clancy reveals his true intentions, he will go into the dimensional portal and claim the energy for himself. When Ryu later confronts Clancy in the portal, Clancy reveals his master plan to use an ancient alien warship to destroy humanity and replace them with Bio-Noid creatures.
    • Team Ninja series:
      • Ninja Gaiden Black: Murai stands out as a truly horrible individual. Once part of the Hayabusa Clan, Murai defected from the group and plotted their demise. Being a neutral ally of the Hayabusas, Murai used his position and knowledge to sell them out to Emperor Vigoor under the guise of the Dark Disciple while luring away his nephew, hero Ryu Hayabusa, during the scheduled invasion. With the Hayabusa Clan decimated and their ancient artifact, the Dragon Blade, in the hands a vengeful Ryu, Murai sends him out to hunt after Vigoor to get revenge. This is actually so Ryu would increase the power of the Dragon Blade through the blood of Emperor Vigoor's forces. He and his servant Gamov then kept watch and helped increase the number of demons so it would fuel the Dragon Blade, despite the collateral damage it would leave. After Emperor Vigoor is killed by Ryu as Murai expected, Murai reveals himself as the true villain and steals the sword away from Ryu, and backstabs his loyal servant Gamov. He then tries to kill off Ryu and intends to take control of the world with the sword. Manipulative and traitorous, Murai would betray and slaughter anyone for power.
      • Ninja Gaiden 3: Clifford "Cliff" Higgins at first seems like a helpful scientist working for the Japanese Defense Force. However, Cliff is really working for the Lords of Alchemy, a group that wants to destroy the human race and replace it with new "perfect" god-like beings; he is also the grandson of the head of the LOA. When Cliff's brother Theodore opposed Cliff's plans, Cliff had him killed in an accident. Cliff later decides to bring his brother back to life, brainwashes him and turns him into a terrorist. While under Cliff's control, Theodore launches a terrorist attack on London and murders the British Prime Minister. Cliff's plans come to a head when he uses his technology and hero Ryu Hayabusa's Dragon Sword, to turn Canna, his own niece, into an Eldritch Abomination called the Goddess. The Goddess then proceeds to go on a rampage across Tokyo, and will eventually destroy the entire human race. Later, after a fight with Ryu and a fatal injury at the hands of his brother, Cliff admits he did all this because he was jealous of his brother and wanted to step out from under his shadow, any way he could.
      • Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z Spin-Off: Alarico del Gonzo is the holographic head of Forge Industries, and the one responsible for the zombie outbreak. Discovering an underground space lobster, he decided to harvest the chemical Substance 72 from it in order to cure his disease and become a God-like figure, unleashing the chemical onto Soviet soil once he hears of Ryu Hayabusa coming to stop him. Doing so causes everyone in Russia to become a zombie, with del Gonzo using them to distract Ryu. Resurrecting Yaiba Kamikaze as a cyborg, he has him hunt down Ryu so that he can activate Yaiba's killswitch to detonate the two ninjas, killing some of his men in a fit of rage once that fails.
  • Watch_Dogs: Dermot "Lucky" Quinn is the leader of the Chicago South Club, a syndicate involved in Human Trafficking, drug dealing, and cybercrime. Lucky orchestrates the affair between Rose Washington and Mayor Donovan Rushmore, and manipulates the Mayor into killing Rose so he can blackmail him for power. When Lucky notices hacker Aiden Pearce and believes him to be after his blackmail material, Lucky orders Maurice to kill him, which ends with the attempt failing and Maurice accidentally killing Aiden's niece, much to Lucky's apathy and responds to Maurice's failure by kidnapping his wife and selling her as a Sex Slave. Lucky would personally kill a fugitive Aiden delivers after an operation goes south, and later orders a hit on Clara Lille when he's made aware of her working against him. Upon dying, he declares that Chicago will build a statue of him while never knowing his criminal nature, and mocks Aiden that no one stopped for his grieving family because they don't matter.
  • The ancient red dragon, Thordak the Cinder King, is the leader of the Chroma Conclave, a faction of chromatic dragons with the goal of destroying the system of order within the continent of Tal'Dorei and dividing it amongst themselves. Centuries ago, Thordak was the tyrannical ruler of the desert continent Marquet, regularly slaughtering its residents. When the city of Ank'Harel began to rise to prominence, Thordak unsuccessfully attempted to destroy the city. Hiding in the seas to recover, Thordak destroyed any ships that passed by before being captured and empowered by the necromancer Opash. Thordak then killed Opash and took over the Island of Viscan before deciding to expand his rule. Killing hundreds of innocents in his conquest, Thordak was eventually sealed away within the Elemental Plane of Fire. When Raishan the Diseased Deceiver freed him, Thordak killed the majority of the Fire Ashari, and established the Conclave along with Raishan. Thordak then has the Conclave attack numerous cities in Tal'Dorei, costing countless lives. When Vox Machina leads an army to take back control of Emon, the capital of Tal'Dorei, Thordak attempts to create a volcanic eruption to wipe out enemy and ally forces alike.
  • The ancient green dragon, Raishan the Diseased Deceiver, is a powerful sorceress and the most intelligent member of the Chroma Conclave. Prior to the story, Raishan murdered a group of followers of Melora, the Wildmother, for her own amusement. When a follower laid a deadly disease on Raishan before dying, Raishan pledged servitude to Thordak in exchange for a cure. Raishan establishes the Chroma Conclave, making her responsible for the lives lost due to the faction. When Thordak was sealed away, Raishan disguised herself as an outcast girl to deceive the Fire Ashari into taking her in before freeing Thordak, not caring that Thordak would wipe out the majority of the Fire Ashari. Later, Raishan and the Chroma Conclave destroy the city of Emon, Raishan kicking off the attack by murdering Sovereign Uriel and several council members. After coming to the conclusion that Thordak won't honor their bargain, Raishan betrays the Conclave and offers to help Vox Machina kill Vorugal and Thordak. When the party kills Thordak, Raishan steals Thordak's corpse and multiple dragon eggs, intending to use them to help her attack a different continent in the future.
  • Fleeing the Childrens Crusade: Sergeant Lessing is the cruel Nazi leader of Otto Krueger's company, where his training exercises often leave his men with injuries like gashes and broken limbs. When he's later assigned to help Krueger's company suppress the Yugoslav resistance, he first beats and kills a random peasant they find. After the company arrives to a village, he nearly rapes an old woman they find and then kills her. Upon being ordered by his commander to exterminate the village, Lessing takes pleasure in hanging many of them, even having some villagers mauled by dogs or burned out of his own sadistic glee. When the Yugoslav resistance engages the German forces, Lessing rapes a woman he found to have an "Aryan quality" to her.
  • Inopticus series:
    • Mirrorworld: Syrile—real name Ishirō Hamada, a former member of Unit 731—is a member of House Dusk and one of Korva's minions. Obsessed with perfecting the devoiding process, Syrile resurrected hundreds of corpses and experimented on them, not caring that the reanimated bodies became sapient and were fully aware of all the torture that Syrile put them through. Syrile even went as far as arranging fatal accidents on various inhabitants of Inoptica just so he could use their bodies for future experiments. After kidnapping Geiger, Syrile forces Vita to assist him with his plans, only to later take her hostage as a bargaining chip when House Midnight attacks House Dusk's stronghold. Eager to save his own hide, Syrile kills Razmin before teaming up with House Dawn and offering to expose the secrets of the other three Houses. Even after Syrile becomes human again and returns home, all he can think about are the ghastly experimentations he plans on conducting in the future.
    • Clawing at Glass prequel: Talvor, the sadistic Batlord of House Noon, began his reign by savagely torturing the day-vamps of the House into genocidal fanatics, with some being irreparably broken by his abuse. Talvor purged all those he deemed "weak" from House Noon, from the infirm to the children, to pile their corpses underneath the House. Launching his genocidal Red Dawn to butcher countless members of House Dusk, civilians and children included, Talvor extended his crusade to attempt to turn Dusk into a charnel house. Talvor planned to harness the flames of a power known as the Conflagration with full intent to unleash it and wipe out all the rest of Inoptica to build an empire out of the ashes and blood of the innocents he slaughtered.
  • To Welcome Oblivion:
    • Nyarlathotep is a wicked Outer God who has plunged trillions of lives into eternal agony within the Outer Planes, with entire civilizations driven to destroy themselves under his influence. On Earth, Nyarlathotep arranges events like The Black Death and the rise of Adolf Hitler for his own amusement, and manipulates the events of the plot by setting up the rise of both Peter Grallman and Dr. Lilith Madison into their positions, the former by killing his young sister Marissa. Arranging the opening of the Outer Gate as Noah T. Trepaly, Nyarlathotep eventually betrays both Grallman and Madison, torturing the latter into his possessed slave and unleashing the populace of the Outer Planes onto Rielington. Nyarlathotep slaughters thousands of people—such as tricking an cafeteria's worth of children into cannibalizing themselves and forcing hundreds of the Old Brotherhood's members to become either breeding fodder or food for the eldritch monsters he summons—and attempts to plunge the entire universe into the Outer Planes, and gloats to Grallman that he'll resurrect Marissa and torture and rape her for centuries in Grallman's form. With a mile-long sadistic streak underscored by a psychopathic sense of humor, Nyarlathotep commits every atrocity he does purely to satisfy his sense of amusement, intent on one day betraying even the Outer Gods to torment the rest of the multiverse himself.
    • Dr. Lilith Madison is a callous sociopath of a scientist with an utter disdain for any life other than her own. Obsessed with finding out the secret to life at any cost, Madison turns to murder to stimulate herself, such as deliberately suffocating an infant under her care. Upon finding a Deep One's carcass, she kills her own research team to use it for her own ends and allies with the Old Brotherhood and its leader Grallman to kidnap hundreds of innocents and implant them with organs from the Deep One to spread Eldritch Energy across the world, resulting in the painful deaths of those forced to bear the transplants. Causing a series of bombings that lead to over 250 deaths to cover the actions of Rhett Talbot, Madison eventually unleashes him onto Rielington to slaughter and rape as he will to take care of the Seratin sisters and Robin Lockwood. Ultimately, Madison betrays Grallman and tries to open a gate to the Outer Planes to discover the secret of existence, fully willing to let the denizens of the Outer Planes pour out on Earth and ravage humanity in the process.
    • Rhett Talbot is the sadistic Arch-Enemy of Elara and Kaya Seratin. As a teenager, Talbot molested several children while posing as a babysitter. After he was taken by the Old Brotherhood and experimented on, he used his newfound powers to murder his parents, and later conducted a series of massacres—one of which took place at a playground Kaya was playing at, where he cut off her arms and attempted to rape her. Several years later, Talbot goes after the Seratins again, where he murders several civilians and police officers in and around a restaurant. Talbot also participates in raping and killing members of the Brotherhood alongside the eldritch monsters in the breeding chamber, and when he's confronted by the Seratins again, he tries to rape Elara and kill them both, uncaring that Nyarlathotep is going to destroy the universe.
  • The Walking Dead fanfic A Walk to Remember: William Carver is the leader of the Howe's settlement, in which he first raped Rebecca to produce an heir. When Rebecca and the other cabin survivors flee Howe's, Carver viciously searches for them and eventually captures most of them in a ski lodge. To lure Rebecca out, Carver tortures Carlos and, upon finding a crippled Clementine, executes Nick for being "reckless." When Kenny kills one of his men, Carver pressures him into surrendering by bringing hostages one-by-one, executing Walter and Alvin when Kenny refuses. Back at Howe's, Carver tortures and rapes Carley when she protests his pressure on Carlos to discipline Sarah and later kills Reggie for failing a task. After Lee and his allies flee Howe's, Carver chases them down again, where he holds Clementine hostage in exchange for Keith, whom he wants as his new heir, before trying to kill Clementine anyways in front of Lee.
Game of Thrones
  • The Bloods of Bolton: Ramsay Snow was a monster even from the age of twelve. When Drucilla Bolton took shelter from a storm in his cottage, Ramsay decided to hunt her for sport, something he had done several times before. When Drucilla managed to escape, Ramsay became obsessed with her, intentionally seeking out "prey" that looked like her. Upon an elderly couple taking him in after Ramsay told them bandits had murdered his family, he thanked them by murdering them. Four years later, after practicing his archery on a peasant he captured, Ramsay attends Domeric Bolton's Name Day ceremony in order to make Domeric aware of his existence and to taunt Drucilla. After gaining Domeric's friendship, Ramsay covertly causes him to fall off his horse, causing injuries that Domeric would die from, simply to hurt Drucilla. With no line he will not cross to get what he wants, Ramsay proves himself to be a monster even by the low standards of the Bolton family.
  • A Wolf Amongst Lions: Joffrey Baratheon and Ramsay Snow are as bad as in canon:
    • Joffrey attempts to execute the captured Arya Stark, later ordering his guards to beat her after Tywin talks him down from doing so. Angered by Tywin negotiating a peaceful end to the war with the Starks, Joffrey schemes with Littlefinger to restart the bloodshed in the hopes of slaughtering them, attempting to have Tywin and his own younger brother assassinated for his plot and tries executing the Stark representatives sent to finalize Tywin's peace agreement.
    • Ramsay schemes alongside his father, House Frey, and Cersei Lannister to depose the Starks and claim the North. Luring the Starks back to the North, Ramsay launches a bloody coup resulting in the death of Robb's wife and Arya's capture, intending to rape her purely out of a sadistic want to horrify her. When Arya defies him, Ramsay removes some of her fingers and sends them back to her mother, and after his coup is stopped and he is imprisoned, Ramsay breaks into Arya's bedchamber, making a spiteful attempt to rape and kill her.
Tales of Crestoria
  • Cody Hjuger, Kanata's father, is secretly a child trafficker who hides his trades under the guise of a benevolent village leader. Selling the children in his orphanage as either slave labor, sex slaves, or for their organs, Cody also has anybody who witnessed his trades sold to scientist Malcolm Sloat for painful experimentation. With his next sale being Kanata's childhood friend Misella, Cody tries to persuade his son into taking over the ring once he's dead, before attempting to kill him once he fights back.
  • Count Senegal of Northmine, the Arc Villain of Chapter 4, has a fiery hatred for the people of Southvein. Manipulating Luke fon Fabre into starting an avalanche that wipes out half of Southvein's population under the guise of a peace offering, Senegal arrives and has his army wipe out the remaining survivors—which include innocent children. Disguising it all as an act of justified retaliation, Senegal attempts to have the heroes and Luke killed for attempting to expose him.

Edited by ACW on Aug 3rd 2020 at 12:44:57 PM

xie323 Since: Jul, 2009
#223730: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:08:26 AM

[tup] Robot Chief, Joker and Luthor

Anyways I know the discussion on TNO is three days from now, but is it ok if I today go over some non-qualifiers in the story and why they don't qualify before I start with discussing who qualifies?

I was also planning to discuss a Kaiserreich candidate today but I changed my mind, said candidate is more appropriately a hate sink when thinking about it rather than a CM because I don't think he really breaches the heinousness standard despite being very despicable.

Edited by xie323 on Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:12:57 AM

nwotyzal Since: Sep, 2019
#223731: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:14:54 AM

@Dr Scavenge 27 Tobi was cut because the original author of the work EP'd him, it's got to be someone else who EP's it

Edited by nwotyzal on Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:13:13 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#223732: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:33:53 AM

[up][up] Fine with me. I'm ESPECIALLY curious who that non-keeper you teased a few days ago is.

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#223733: Aug 2nd 2020 at 10:44:03 AM

K's 13 btw... I think he's been listed as Enfant Terrible due to concern of his behaviour sprouting up at a young age but the timing of his massacre makes me think Teens Are Monsters is more appropriate.

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#223734: Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:16:44 AM

Some pothole suggestions:

Sorry I don't have more, but I have to deal with something right now. Maybe I'll try to think of more later.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#223736: Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:27:50 AM

I suggest these edits to the Sword Art Online Complete Monster page, per SeamusHeap's suggestion

    edits 
  • Vassago Cassals/PoH (short for Prince of Hell) was forced to become a criminal due to unfortunate conditions, but he proved his vileness by willingly becoming an assassin and murderer. Entering SAO to kill a target, Vassago become the founder of the aforementioned Laughing Coffin guild, where he rallied together the worst of those trapped in the game-—including the aforementioned XaXa and Johnny Black—and had them slaughter their fellow players, all for the joy of seeing East Asian players kill each other. Later betraying and abandoning his own Guild to die, Vassago corrupted other players and sent them to kill those who had participated in the Laughing Coffin's downfall. Returning in Alicization as a member of Glowgen Defence Systems, Vassago becomes Gabriel Miller's right hand, leading his invasion to the Human Territory, killing dozens of sentient AIs. When Japanese players appear to try to contain the invasion, Vassago contacts unaware players from China and Korea, lies to them about the situation and connects them to the Undeworld to enjoy the mutual violence and causing as much pain as he can. Finding a comatose Kirito, Vassago beats him and promises to torture his lover and friends to death until he fights him while using the energy from the death and suffering of sentient beings to empower his weapon. A sadistic murderer, Vassago proves his sheer vileness by always taking bad situations and making them worse for his own amusement.
  • Gabriel Miller/Subtilizerpsychotic even as a child, is the boss of Glowgen Defense Systems. Managing to assault the Ocean Turtle and enter into the Underworld in the super-account of Vecta, God of Darkness, he intends on capturing the only fully-developed Artificial Fluctlight and brainwash her into be his submissive wife and "start a new life in a new world". With his new godlike powers, Gabriel turns the turbulent Seven Lords Assembly of the Dark Territory into his personal dictatorship, taking advantage of the flaws in the data of the habitats, who are forced to follow the "rule of the strongest". When the wall of the Human Empire collapses, Gabriel leads the invasion, using risk strategies, causing unnecessary deaths on his own side, as he believes that their sheer numbers and experience of his side are the only things he needs to win, going so far to use eventually using members of his own army as Demihuman sacrifices to empower his sorceress Dee Eye El. Contacting his allies in the Real World, Gabriel summons hundreds of unaware players that kill several AIs believing that they were inside just another game. "Dying" after forcing Bercouli to sacrifice his own life, Gabriel returns with his GGO account Subtilizer and mocks his sacrifice before fighting Kirito and torturing him. him. A cold sociopath, Gabriel goes so far as to think of the possibility of destroying the Underworld and killing every AI in it after his victory.

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:37:00 AM

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#223737: Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:36:31 AM

Can you post them as they are now too so we can compare? Also you have a chain hole in Vassago's.

Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#223738: Aug 2nd 2020 at 11:43:53 AM

[up] Here's the comparison

    original 
  • Vassago Cassals/PoH (short for Prince of Hell) was forced to become a criminal due to unfortunate conditions, but he proved his vileness by willingly becoming an assassin and murderer. Entering SAO to kill a target, PoH become the founder of the aforementioned Laughing Coffin guild, where he rallied together the worst of those trapped in the game-—including the aforementioned XaXa and Johnny Black—and had them slaughter their fellow players, all for the joy of seeing East Asian players kill each other. Later betraying and abandoning his own Guild to die, PoH corrupted other players and sent them to kill those who had participated in the Laughing Coffin's downfall. Returning in Alicization as a member of Glowgen Defense Systems, PoH becomes Gabriel Miller's right hand, leading his invasion to the Human Territory, killing dozens of sentient A.I.s. When Japanese players appear to try to contain the invasion, PoH contacts unaware players from the rest of world, lies to them about the situation and connects them to the Undeworld to enjoy the mutual violence and causing as much pain as he can. Finding a comatose Kirito, PoH beats him and promises to torture his lover and friends to death until he fights him while using the energy from the death and suffering of sentient beings to empower his weapon. A sadistic murderer, PoH proves his sheer vileness by always taking bad situations and making them worse for his own amusement.
  • Gabriel Miller, psychotic even as a child, is also known as Subtilizer in GGO and Dark God Vector in Project Alicization. the Underworld. The boss of Glowgen Defense Systems, Gabriel manages to assault the Ocean Turtle and enter into the Underworld in the super-account of Vector, god of darkness, intending to capture the only fully-developed Artificial Fluctlight and brainwash her into be his submissive wife and "start a new life in a new world". With his new godlike powers, Gabriel turns the turbulent Seven Lords Assembly of the Dark Territory into his personal dictatorship, taking advantage of the flaws in the data of the habitats, who are forced to follow the "rule of the strongest". When the wall of the Human Empire collapses, Gabriel leads the invasion, using risk strategies, causing unnecessary deaths on his own side, as he believes their sheer numbers and experience are the only things he needs to win, eventually using members of his own army as Demihuman sacrifices to empower his sorceress. Contacting his allies in the Real World, Gabriel summons hundreds of unaware players that kill several AIs believing that they were inside just another game. "Dying" after forcing a AI to sacrifice his own life, Gabriel returns with his GGO account and mocks said AI for his sacrifice before fighting Kirito and torturing him. A cold sociopath, Gabriel goes so far as to think of the possibility of destroying the Underworld and killing every AI in it after his victory.

    edits 
  • Vassago Cassals/PoH (short for Prince of Hell) was forced to become a criminal due to unfortunate conditions, but he proved his vileness by willingly becoming an assassin and murderer. Entering SAO to kill a target, Vassago becomes the founder of the aforementioned Laughing Coffin guild, where he rallied together the worst of those trapped in the game-—including the aforementioned XaXa and Johnny Black—and had them slaughter their fellow players, all for the joy of seeing East Asian players kill each other. Later betraying and abandoning his own Guild to die, Vassago corrupted other players and sent them to kill those who had participated in the Laughing Coffin's downfall. Returning in Alicization as a member of Glowgen Defence Systems, Vassago becomes Gabriel Miller's right hand, leading his invasion to the Human Territory, killing dozens of sentient AIs. When Japanese players appear to try to contain the invasion, Vassago contacts unaware players from China and Korea, lies to them about the situation and connects them to the Undeworld to enjoy the mutual violence and causing as much pain as he can. Finding a comatose Kirito, Vassago beats him and promises to torture his lover and friends to death until he fights him while using the energy from the death and suffering of sentient beings to empower his weapon. A sadistic murderer, Vassago proves his sheer vileness by always taking bad situations and making them worse for his own amusement.
  • Gabriel Miller/Subtilizerpsychotic even as a child, is the boss of Glowgen Defense Systems. Managing to assault the Ocean Turtle and enter into the Underworld in the super-account of Vecta, God of Darkness, he intends on capturing the only fully-developed Artificial Fluctlight and brainwash her into be his submissive wife and "start a new life in a new world". With his new godlike powers, Gabriel turns the turbulent Seven Lords Assembly of the Dark Territory into his personal dictatorship, taking advantage of the flaws in the data of the habitats, who are forced to follow the "rule of the strongest". When the wall of the Human Empire collapses, Gabriel leads the invasion, using risk strategies, causing unnecessary deaths on his own side, as he believes their sheer numbers and experience are the only things he needs to win, eventually using members of his own army as Demihuman sacrifices to empower his sorceress Dee Eye El. Contacting his allies in the Real World, Gabriel summons thousands of unaware players that kill several AIs believing that they were inside just another game, even letting them kill his own Dark Territory forces. "Dying" after forcing Bercouli to sacrifice his own life, Gabriel returns with his GGO account Subtilizer and mocks his sacrifice before fighting Kirito and torturing him. him. A cold sociopath, Gabriel goes so far as to think of the possibility of destroying the Underworld and killing every AI in it after his victory.

Removed the chain hole in Vassago

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:00:48 PM

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#223739: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:08:24 PM

Text looks fine—if not a whole lot changed—but cut back on the potholes, since they're under 250 words we don't want either having more than eight, lest they look too splotchy with all the blue.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#223740: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:53:26 PM

I think Gabriel's is on the edge of close to 250.

I noticed his is shorter; what changes for made to Vassago?

Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#223741: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:59:00 PM

[up] how's this

    edits 
  • Vassago Cassals/PoH (short for Prince of Hell) was forced to become a criminal due to unfortunate conditions, but he proved his vileness by willingly becoming an assassin and murderer. Entering SAO to kill a target, Vassago becomes the founder of the aforementioned Laughing Coffin guild, where he rallied together the worst of those trapped in the game-—including the aforementioned XaXa and Johnny Black—and had them slaughter their fellow players, all for the joy of seeing East Asian players kill each other. Later betraying and abandoning his own Guild to die, Vassago corrupted other players and sent them to kill those who had participated in the Laughing Coffin's downfall. Returning in Alicization as a member of Glowgen Defence Systems, Vassago becomes Gabriel Miller's right-hand man, leading his invasion to the Human Territory, killing dozens of sentient AIs. When Japanese players appear to try to contain the invasion, Vassago contacts unaware players from China and Korea, lies to them about the situation and connects them to the Undeworld to enjoy the mutual violence and causing as much pain as he can. Finding a comatose Kirito, Vassago tortures him and promises to torture his lover and friends to death until he fights him while using the energy from the death and suffering of sentient beings to empower his weapon. A sadistic murderer, Vassago proves his sheer vileness by always taking bad situations and making them worse for his own amusement.
  • Gabriel Miller/Subtilizer is the boss of Glowgen Defense Systems. Developing an obsession with the nature of the soul in his childhood, Gabriel experimented on animals and later on people, including his childhood fiancée Alicia Klingerman. Leading an assault team to raid the Ocean Turtle on behalf of the NSA, Gabriel enters into the Underworld in the super-account of Vecta, God of Darkness, intending on capturing the only fully-developed Artificial Fluctlight and brainwash her into be his submissive wife and "start a new life in a new world". With his new godlike powers, Gabriel turns the turbulent Seven Lords Assembly of the Dark Territory into his personal dictatorship, taking advantage of the flaws in the data of the habitats, who are forced to follow the "rule of the strongest". When the wall of the Human Empire collapses, Gabriel leads the invasion, using risk strategies, causing unnecessary deaths on his own side, as he believes their sheer numbers and experience are the only things he needs to win, eventually using members of his own army as Demihuman sacrifices to empower his sorceress Dee Eye El. Contacting his allies in the Real World, Gabriel summons thousands of unaware players that kill several AIs believing that they were inside just another game, even letting them kill his own Dark Territory forces. "Dying" after forcing Bercouli to sacrifice his own life, Gabriel returns with his GGO account Subtilizer and mocks his sacrifice before fighting Kirito and torturing him. him. Defined by his megalomania and cruelty, Gabriel goes so far as to think of the possibility of destroying the Underworld and killing every AI in it after his victory.

I decided to add a bit of Gabriel's backstory (i.e. his childhood) as its adds to his evilness

Also could this be added to the quotes? It could work well.

PoH: "Hey, that name brings back memories. I'm glad you remembered it."
Asuna: "Is this vengeance? For the Assault Team wiping out Laughing Coffin?"
PoH: "Are you a freaking idiot? Let me tell you something. The one who tipped off your Assault Team about Laughing Coffin's hideout? That was me."
Asuna: "Why would you..."
PoH: "I wanted to make you guys murderers. The Assault Team, posing as heroes, acting all high and mighty on the front lines!"
Asuna: "That's all you wanted? To force Kirito to be burdened from PKing?"
PoH: "Yes. Absolutely, yes. I was watching that battle from hiding. When Professor Blackie snapped and killed two of them, I came this close to bursting into laughter and blowing my cover."
Asuna: "D-Do you know how much Kirito agonized and suffered over that?"
PoH: "Yeah? Glad to hear it. But that sounds suspicious. If he actually regretted it, wouldn't he be too repulsed to even look at another VR game? Because of the guilt from the guys he killed. I know. He's in there too, right? Well, I'll ask him myself"
Asuna: "Stop! Anything but that!"
PoH: "It's showtime!"
Sword Art Online Alicization: War of Underworld

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:02:28 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#223742: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:02:57 PM

So Gabriel's got expanded, and I'm not sure what changed with Vassago.

Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#223743: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:06:20 PM

[up]Just some changes to the trope links to better describe him

  • PoH's trope link was changed from Hero Killer to Sadist. Also Prince of Hell is trope-linked to Satanic Archetype because that describes hin perfectly.
  • PoH was changed to Vassago

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:10:59 AM

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#223744: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:06:24 PM

Woah... 273 words? We don't need absolutely everything he does. If they commit every crime under the sun that's when you start getting pragmatic and pick and choose what goes and what stays.

Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#223745: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:07:50 PM

[up]Guess I'll truncate his childhood then.

  • Gabriel Miller/Subtilizer, psychotic even as a child, is the boss of Glowgen Defense Systems. Leading an assault team to raid the Ocean Turtle on behalf of the NSA, Gabriel enters into the Underworld in the super-account of Vecta, God of Darkness, intending on capturing the only fully-developed Artificial Fluctlight and brainwash her into be his submissive wife and "start a new life in a new world". With his new godlike powers, Gabriel turns the turbulent Seven Lords Assembly of the Dark Territory into his personal dictatorship, taking advantage of the flaws in the data of the habitats, who are forced to follow the "rule of the strongest". When the wall of the Human Empire collapses, Gabriel leads the invasion, using risk strategies, causing unnecessary deaths on his own side, as he believes their sheer numbers and experience are the only things he needs to win, eventually using members of his own army as Demihuman sacrifices to empower his sorceress Dee Eye El. Contacting his allies in the Real World, Gabriel summons thousands of unaware players that kill several AIs believing that they were inside just another game, even letting them kill his own Dark Territory forces. "Dying" after forcing Bercouli to sacrifice his own life, Gabriel returns with his GGO account Subtilizer and mocks his sacrifice before fighting Kirito and torturing him. him. Defined by his megalomania and cruelty, Gabriel goes so far as to think of the possibility of destroying the Underworld and killing every AI in it after his victory.

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:09:58 AM

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#223746: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:10:54 PM

I really don't think that works as a quote.

[tup] Thomas Parnell.

[tup] Joker and Luthor.

[tup] Robot Chief

[tup] Dr. Otto Octavius

[tup] Khotun

[up] I think you are putting too many details, I get the need to do that but given Gabriel's rapsheet is so massive, one has to put emphasis into the worst things (I hate I couldn't mention how he publicly showed the sewered head of the lover of one of his Subordinatites but one has to be economical with words)

Edited by KazuyaProta on Aug 2nd 2020 at 3:13:40 AM

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Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#223748: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:14:29 PM

[up]Shall we implement the rewrites of Gabriel and Vassago?

43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#223749: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:16:10 PM

Goes by majority votes of the thread, I'm personally fine with it.

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#223750: Aug 2nd 2020 at 1:16:51 PM

Also, SAO related. Sword Art Online: Lycoris was out. A Alternate Continuity re-telling of the arcs of the series, Lycoris is set on Alicization and has a Quinella that commits even more crimes that in the original but...The True Ending gives her a Alas, Poor Villain death, so sorry.

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