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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#191876: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:01:07 AM

Correct, Lighty. I was explaining my own process for doing things.

RIP KissAnime.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#191877: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:02:37 AM

[up][up]She actually does talk though.

Here's her dialogue. I'll let you decide whether it's enough. If you guys are fine. I'll ep in an hour or two.

“Oi,” the old woman croaked. “Why you accosting me?”

She had dried blood caked beneath her fingernails, and a single brown droplet stuck to her craggy brow near her hairline, almost hidden by her cap. Others who chanced to notice those stains upon a midwife would have no cause for suspicion. The facts of the murders flew about me, assuming their formation. The victims, all women; their organs removed; a maniac with medical knowledge.

Kill her! Kill her! Kill her!

Black Mary thrashed within me as if trying to seize control of my arms, hands, and fingers. If I allowed it, I knew she would have them at the old woman’s throat, and if that happened, no one would have power sufficient to pry them loose.

“You an imbecile or something?” the midwife asked. “Speak!”

“I know who you are,” I said. The old woman’s frown cut low enough to sever her chin. “Do you, now? You look familiar to me as well.”

“No,” I said, and lowered my voice so she actually leaned in toward me. “I know what you’ve done, you devil.”

She leaned back then as a shroud fell away from her, a kind of invisible veil I hadn’t known she was wearing, the last shred of humanity she wore like a garment, and beneath it I glimpsed something darker even than Black Mary’s eyes, darker even than the foulest back slum of Whitechapel.

“Do you, now?” she said again. I stood there in the rainy, crowded street, unarmed before a murderer who had slaughtered and butchered five women and would no doubt think it an insignificance to do the same to me. It occurred to me that her long knife might’ve even then been secreted away about her person somewhere. Kill her! Let me kill her!

“Ah,” the midwife said, with a grin even more terrible than her frown. “Now I know you.” She leaned in toward me again and whispered, “That’s a pretty scar you’ve got.”

Before I could react, she grabbed my head and jerked it downward with shocking strength, wrenching my neck. My arms flew wide to keep my balance, and I felt an intense pain as she tore my shawl away with a fistful of my hair. Then she charged off into the crowd.

I watched her go, my scalp afire, my face exposed to the world. She flees!

I needed to hide myself away or find something to cover my face, but I was out in the open with nothing to use as a shield. Had I the ability, I would have clawed up the cobblestones and bricks to bury myself in the street. The people around me who had seen the midwife’s attack stared at me.

They pointed at me and leered with the expression Charles had worn as he’d assaulted me. I felt hatred and disgust from each of them, exactly what I had known and feared and fled.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 17th 2019 at 8:03:34 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191878: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:09:24 AM

Yeah, that's enough.

BTW, at Other Media, do we wanna give scripts and screenplays their own folder instead of grouping them under "Others"?

Here's Rita:

  • Unproduced Power Rangers script, by Max Landis: Rita Repulsa, the former Black Ranger, is the leader of the Dominators who serves Lord Zedd. After being freed from her asteroid prison on Earth, Rita, after acquiring her scepter, plans to travel back to Zedd so that she can join him in his plans of galactic conquest, all at a cost of destroying the entire Earth, a fact she's downright proud of. Torturing Zordon once she breaks into his lair, she sends a giant Goldar out to destroy Angel Grove as a way to distract the Power Rangers while she accomplishes her plan.

Edited by ACW on Nov 17th 2019 at 11:11:38 AM

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falcontalons from Earth-2 Since: Apr, 2019
#191879: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:11:35 AM

@miraculous: I mistakenly thought that the Zodiac Killer talked too, but rereading the EP, it seems that he was just sending letters. Agreed with ACW on the dialogue.

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#191880: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:11:50 AM

[up][up][up] I say go for it.

[up][up] I say yeah give them their own folder.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 17th 2019 at 10:13:50 AM

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from NYPD (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#191881: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:16:49 AM

I wouldn't be opposed to a screenplay exclusive folder.

Feels good, don't it?
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191882: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:25:59 AM

Here's what it would look like (along with the new Others folder):

Scripts and Screenplays

    Original Works 
  • Extreme Prejudice (2019) dude
  • Migraine: Kenneth Jason Muntz is a sociopath desperate to earn money by any means necessary. Struggling to keep himself from being evicted from his apartment, Ken decides to venture onto the dark web, where he discovers that human flesh can be sold for a high price. Over the course of four months, Ken kidnaps and murders over half a dozen women before chopping up their bodies and selling their flesh on the black market. He also ruins his kind neighbors' relationship solely for his own amusement. After claiming another victim and encountering his neighbor Fred while he's disposing of the body, Ken nonchalantly reveals that he kills people for a living, and then strangles Fred to death when Fred realizes Ken ruined his relationship. Even after Ken earns enough money to get a new apartment, he decides to continue murdering people with no intention of stopping until he's caught or killed.

    Others 
  • The Last Boy Scout (Shane Black's original screenplay): Milo is significantly nastier than he is in the final product, even managing to eclipse his boss Sheldon Marcone. A director of snuff films on top of being a psychotic hitman for Marcone, Milo routinely has young women tricked or kidnapped to be brutally murdered by his henchmen for the purpose of his films. Once Marcone orders the assassination of Senator Calvin Baynard, Milo kidnaps the hero Joe Hallenbeck and his wife Sarah and threatens to use Sarah as the next star in his snuff films if Joe doesn't kill Baynard, with full intent of simply burning Joe to death and using him to soak up guilt as he and Marcone walk off free. Along the way, Milo massacres an innocent family simply because they inconvenience him and, after murdering Baynard and all of his men before being defeated and scarred by Joe, murders his way back to Joe and tries to furiously gun down him and his entire family in revenge.
  • The Lost Boys: The Beginning: In the script written for the unproduced prequel of the original film, Vlad Tepsch is a legendary vampire king known as "The Impaler" for how he dispatches his victims. First arriving in America while butchering the crew of a ship he's aboard, after being mugged Vlad chases down the Lost Boys and begins to slowly turn them into vampires. Seeming to have their best interests at heart, Vlad helps make the boys rich and acquire ownership of a extravagant hotel, while killing random people all around him, from hotel guests, to a gang, to a unit of Marines. Later, Vlad reveals his intent to use the coastline of San Francisco to create armies of vampires and a worldwide empire for himself to rule over. When David tries to leave him, Vlad forcibly turns his girlfriend Anastasia Rostov into a vampire as a "gift", causing the girl to commit suicide out of terror, and makes it clear to the boys that he sees them as mere soldiers he can easily throw away.
  • Unproduced Power Rangers script, by Max Landis: Rita Repulsa, the former Black Ranger, is the leader of the Dominators who serves Lord Zedd. After being freed from her asteroid prison on Earth, Rita, after acquiring her scepter, plans to travel back to Zedd so that she can join him in his plans of galactic conquest, all at a cost of destroying the entire Earth, a fact she's downright proud of. Torturing Zordon once she breaks into his lair, she sends a giant Goldar out to destroy Angel Grove as a way to distract the Power Rangers while she accomplishes her plan.
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Blue Door (unproduced early script)
    • Colonel Schrader is an alien from Dimension X who serves Krang. Masquerading as the human leader of the Foot, Schrader, knowing that the Turtles are destined to defeat Krang, starts Project Aries with the goal of killing them. With Project Aries, he has humans kidnapped and turned into mutants for Krang's army, having done so for 17 years, ordering his test subjects killed when he feels he's finished. Later kidnapping the Turtles and torturing them, Schrader hunts down the Turtles once they escape. Making sure Krang's plan to merge both Dimension X and Earth comes to fruition, Schrader turns on his human superiors and guns them down while the Technodrome charges up.
    • Krang is the dictator of Dimension X, and Schrader's master. Ruling the dimension for 20 years and crushing anybody who tries to stop him with his army, Krang, after hearing that the Turtles are destined to kill him, murders their parents in retaliation. Preparing the Technodrome to annihilate the rebel fighters, Krang sets out to merge Dimension X and Earth together to power up his weapon, sending his men out to acquire four orbs across the world by killing their guardians. The portal ends up creating countless natural disasters around Earth that kill thousands, Krang uncaring for the lives lost. Successfully merging the two worlds together, he later brags to Leo about murdering his father before trying to kill the Turtles himself.
  • Unproduced Wonder Woman script, by Joss Whedon:
    • Arabella Callas is the ruthless CEO of Spearhead, a company that masks an arms dealing, warmongering operation run by Callas. A devout servant of Ares who uses her influence to start and sustain wars across the globe, Callas only serves Ares to satisfy her own cravings for power and to dominate all beneath her heel. Working with Strife to create the Khimaera, eliminating any and everyone who stumbles across the truth about the ancient beast, Callas tests the Khimaera by having it level several buildings, all full of innocent people. After ordering Steve Trevor and his partners killed, Callas plans to use the Khimaera to destroy cities worldwide, killing thousands to throw the rest of the planet into such terror that she can swoop in with Spearhead and subtly take control of all life on Earth.
    • The aforementioned Strife is the nephew of Ares, and a vicious, petty Blood Knight who gleefully lives up to his father's passion and lust for war. Strife works to unleash the Khimaera on the world with Callas, violently murdering potential witnesses and even nearly obliterating a large building full of homeless vagrant families. Strife, in retribution for being insulted, forces Diana to depower at the threat of Steve Trevor's life, leaves Diana to die with the specific shame of Dying Alone, and attempts to kill Steve shortly after anyway. Strife eventually hijacks the scheme for the Khimaera, sabotaging his own plans with Callas to instead directly use the Khimaera to wreak carnage and destroy all of Gateway City simply to show he's not bluster.

Others

    Examples 
  • Blood Trail (2016): The nameless killer is a psychopathic cannibal that preys on young women. Abducting two girls, the killer cuts pieces of one of the victim's legs off to eat while she's still alive, before brutally killing her. When the heroine Lori attempts to flee, the killer stabs her in the torso, and tracks her to the house of a doctor, the doctor's fiancée Sidney, and Sidney's brother Preston, where he stabs Preston to death and forces Sidney to watch as he guts the doctor. Although his reign of terror is ended, Lori becomes his final victim when she expires from the stab wound he inflicted. Demonstrating a clear sadistic streak despite never saying a word, the killer is a brutal sociopath driven solely by his own enjoyment.
  • H.H.L. (2016): In this short film about a dystopian future, Miro stands out as the only one of the three main characters to be completely bereft of redeeming traits. A sociopathic manufacturer/dealer of NUKE, a highly addictive substance that must be extracted from the brain of a recently-deceased person, Miro works with his brother Lucio and his lover May to lure victims to his apartment, where he kills them and removes the necessary chemicals from their brain. Making a deal with a fascist dictator to supply NUKE for the government to use to subjugate the masses, Miro soon discovers that Lucio and May have been stealing some of his product, prompting him to torture May to death before beating his brother to death with a hammer, coldly stating that he will "enjoy tasting his NUKE". A greedy, self-centered brute who gets away with everything, Miro is last seen stalking towards a young boy, with the implication being that he's going to kill him for his NUKE.
  • Lights Out (audio; script): Mr. George Stewart, based on murderer H.H. Holmes, from "Murder Castle", is a man who runs a murder palace in his mansion. Luring young women to his home, he traps them in the manor and places them in death traps, gleefully experimenting with ways to kill them. One woman in the prologue is placed in wet cement to die there, another having been dropped into lime previously. When another woman comes, Stewart tries to shut her in a chamber where the air will be pumped out so she will slowly and painfully asphyxiate.
  • Mark Macready and the Archangel Murders: In this short film, the Archangel Killer is a shapeshifting incubus killer and rapist of women. Upon sighting a victim, the Archangel Killer would maul them to death before harvesting their hearts in grizzly fashion. Having previously done this to five women, the Archangel Killer is hired by evil forces to kidnap the wife of GMPID detective Mark "Mac" Macready. After murdering a foreign diplomat and taking his place, the Archangel Killer mortally wounds Commissioner Doyle before escaping. When Macready and his colleagues arrive to an abandoned building, the Archangel Killer shapeshifts into Macready's wife as a means of lowering his guard, and, when fatally shot spitefully wishes Macready the best of luck in finding his wife, fully knowing that it would be impossible given his death. Even in a short film paying homage to the B-movies of the horror genre, the Archangel Killer stands as a truly reprehensible abomination.
  • Metal Gear Solid (audio drama): Sergei Ivanovich is a partner of the commander of the Esteria Army Special Forces, Mark Cortez, in an attempt to overthrow the local government in South America. In reality using Cortez for a scheme of his own, Ivanovich has Cortez assist him in capturing Colonel Ray Campbell in the planned ambush, killing Cortez's entire unit in the process. From there, torturing Campbell for fun, he uses his life signal to lure Solid Snake and Meryl to him, promising to torture them all to death. Ivanovich reveals his plan to extract the FOXDIE virus from Solid Snake, so that he could use it to create a biological weapon to use against the government and innocent people; Ivanovich turned on Cortez, mortally wounding him, before killing the arriving soldiers, and then trying to sadistically kill Campbell, Meryl and Solid Snake.
  • The Strange Thing About the Johnsons: Isaiah is the abusive son of Sidney and Joan Johnson who develops an unhealthy obsession towards the former. Beginning with assaulting his father at a prom, Isaiah subjects his father to 14 years of sexual abuse, threatening bodily harm on him if he contemplated exposing it to the public. Even marriage fails to deter Isaiah, as he expresses little interest in his wife, and he deliberately breaks a glass under the guise of helping to clean up, solely to be alone with his father. After viciously raping Sidney out of anger at him locking the bathroom door, Isaiah tries to guilt trip him into staying in the relationship while additionally blaming him for the abuse. When Joan inquires him about this, Isaiah tries to push his mother into the fireplace.

Edited by ACW on Nov 17th 2019 at 11:27:07 AM

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Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#191883: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:45:36 AM

God, this thread never slows the fuck down.

Dane's going nowhere. He's not disgusted with Penn. He wanted Sarah alive because "she's insurance." He wanted her as an unharmed hostage against Ryback. Plus at the end of the movie, he was fine letting Sarah die on the train anyway. :/

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#191884: Nov 17th 2019 at 8:48:55 AM

I thought this was a slow day tbh. [lol]

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191885: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:12:30 AM

Okay, Old King, from Armored Core: For Answer...

Um...am I missing something? Because that's DEFINITELY disqualifying.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#191887: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:18:20 AM

Why is Body Bags in the Film A To C section? From my research it's a television film that aired on Showtime. I mean we have all the other made for the films in the TV section. So shouldn't it be as well.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 17th 2019 at 1:47:02 PM

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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191888: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:22:34 AM

Bullman, you're probably right.

As for Old King, I wanna here from VVV, since he seems to know the game.

[down]Goddammit [lol]

Edited by ACW on Nov 17th 2019 at 12:29:07 PM

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from NYPD (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#191889: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:23:52 AM

The new format looks good, ACW.

[up] You want to hear?

[down] You duplicated the entry for F Frieza.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Nov 17th 2019 at 12:38:08 PM

Feels good, don't it?
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191890: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:27:18 AM

  • Getter Robo Hien: The Earth Suicide, by Naoto Tsushima: Professor Jakob is a misanthropic madman with a desire to destroy humanity. Once a scientist working in methods to heal people using special plants, Jakob became obsessed with the idea of destroying humanity using plants infused with Getter Rays, which he considered the real lifeform chosen for the Getter. Creating special seeds, Jakob personally infects the master of Goki Hagane and the father of Tsurugi Ryuki, turning them into monsters who murder every human near to them while being painfully aware of their actions, leading to the destruction of Tsurugi's natal city. Jakob also betrays his partner by infecting his wife in front of him before Jakob's son kills him in front of Dan Amakusa, his partner's son. Fusing himself with the "Great Will", Jakob attacks the capitals of multiple countries and their armies with Plant Beasts, leading to the painful deaths of many soldiers and civilians. Managing to steal a Getter Core, Jakob uses it to create a giant plant capable of destroying humanity and when the Getter Team confronts him, Jakob thanks them for reminding him about his victims and mocks the deaths of their loved ones, referring to them as "worthless vermin".
  • Shin Mazinger Zero: The Juzo Kabuto of the second timeline—despite his short appearance—is responsible for the events of the series. An egomaniacal scientist and grandfather of Koji Kabuto that got information from a version of himself of an alternate future. Juzo Kabuto betrays his family and creates the Mazinger to use it in a war of conquest against the entire world, murdering entire armies and destroying cities until all world leaders bow to him. Bored with his victory and frustrated after realizing that his Mazinger wasn't the most powerful version of it that could exist, Juzo burns the world leaders with the Mazinger despite their surrender and orders Minerva X to reset the timeline and share his scientific developments across the world in order to create an actual challenge for himself in another timeline, leading to the rise of Dr. Hell and creating a cycle of tragedy where the world would be destroyed in multiple ways for either Dr. Hell's ambition or the Mazinger's massive power.
  • Planet of the Apes: The Human War, written by Ian Edginton: Minister Shiva, the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society in her own image, regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.
  • Super Powers Which Way Books:
    • Supergirl: The Girl of Steel: Brainiac, an evil android that wants to conquer the universe, is a dark presence in an otherwise lighthearted book. Brainiac captures Superman and lures Supergirl to a planet he is slowly cooking with red sun radiation rays. If Supergirl confronts Brainiac in his ship, he plans to capture Supergirl and experiment on her and Superman. If Supergirl frees Brainiac's alien prisoners and lets them bring her to him, Brainiac kills them without a second thought. If Supergirl confronts Brainiac on the planet, Supergirl finds that the population of the planet, a race of sapient rat creatures called Ridents, are being starved due to Brainiac's experiments destroying most of the food and the water on the planet. Brainiac is also capturing some of the Ridents and is using them as slaves, forcing them to work in a mine and dig up a jewel that could grant him untold power.
    • Batman: Doomsday Prophecy:
      • The Joker is as deadly as ever. In one story path, Joker sends Batman threatening messages through the Gotham Gazette newspaper, announcing his intentions to kill Batman and destroy Gotham City, by killing half the city's population. Joker attempts this by delivering enough poison to the citizens of Gotham City, either by dumping chemicals into the city's water supply; adding poison to the Gotham gas line; or using planes to spread poison across Gotham City.
      • The Riddler is more sinister than usual. Threatening to "end Batman", Riddler kidnaps Commissioner Gordon and attempts to use a Car Bomb to kill him and Batman. Later, Riddler lures Batman to Washington DC, where he kidnaps an actor dressed as Batman and threatens to drop him from a great height if Batman does not reveal his secret identity. But his worst act is luring Batman to a puppet show called The Riddle, held in a children's theater. Riddler sets the theater on fire, willing to let the children in the audience die, just to get the better of Batman.
  • Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors duology:
    • Both games: Cell, in addition to his actions in canon, commits many crimes throughout various routes. During his story in the first game, when Dr. Gero tells Cell that they'll revive the Red Ribbon army, Cell refuses and remorselessly kills his creator when it results in a fight. After killing Gohan and the rest of the Z fighters, Cell creates countless Cell Juniors to hunt down and kill every last person on Earth while he goes to sleep. When Cell defeats Majin Buu, he decides he has no further use for Earth and destroys the solar system, going on to terrorize the rest of the universe in search of another fighter to give him a challenge. During one of his routes in the sequel, while waiting for the Cell Games to begin, Cell kills Future Trunks and takes his time machine for the sake of fighting and killing an alternate version of himself. In another route, enraged by Goku giving up during their fight in the Cell Games, Cell breaks his own rules and destroys the Earth anyway. During one of Piccolo's routes, Cell goes to Namek in an attempt to revive the destroyed Android 18 for the purpose of absorbing her. While there, he makes a deal with Cooler that he'll help Cooler terrorize Namek in search for the Dragon Balls, secretly planning on killing Cooler when they're all gathered.
    • Second game only: Cooler proves to be far worse than his movie counterpart. Upon hearing of his brother Frieza's defeat, Cooler, angered by the blow to his family's pride, ravages a city in hopes of drawing out Goku. In one of his routes, after succesfully killing Goku, he terrorizes Earth for years on end, slowly hunting down and purging every city for his own amusement. When he discovers that Frieza has been feeding Gohan and Trunks information, Cooler kills his brother despite saying he'd spare him if he swears loyalty, before moving on to betray King Cold in an attempt to take over the empire. In one of Piccolo's routes, Cooler and his men attack Namek in search of the Dragon Balls, threatening wipe out all of the Namekians if they don't cooperate. In one of Frieza's routes, Cooler uses the Big Gete Star to consume several planets to add to his power behind the family's back. After consuming Namek, he reveals that he intends to kill both Frieza and King Cold, sickening both of them with his betrayal of the family, and use the Big Gete Star to consume all planets in the universe.
  • Maximum the Hormone's "F" note : Frieza is a sadistic tyrant who makes a living off of purging planets of their inhabitants. Frieza has invaded countless planets and slaughtered their inhabitants, even if they surrender. Those who survive under his rule are stripped of all rights and regularly tortured while Frieza ruins the planet. Longing for immortality, Frieza declares war on Namek upon finding out about the Dragon Balls, not even bothering to offer the Namekians the opportunity of peacefully giving them to him. Gleefully killing countless innocents in his pursuit of eternal life, the chorus notes how all the galaxy can do is cry out in fear of the tyrant.
  • Blacula: Count Dracula, from the first film, despite his brief appearance, manages to stand out as a cruel, wicked monster responsible for the events of the duology. A slave trader who views slavery as glorious, Dracula, upon hearing that African Prince Mamuwalde wants to end Africa's slave trade, uses his dozen brainwashed wives to seize Mamuwalde and turn him into a vampire, rechristening him as "Blacula". Locking him away in a coffin to suffer for centuries, Dracula coldly locks Blacula's wife Luva with her husband to starve to death.
  • Nothing Bad Can Happen (2013): Benno is a mood-swinging sociopath who serves as a toxic influence on everyone around him. Befriending Tore and accepting him into his home, Benno initially presents himself as a loving family man to hide his obsession with breaking Tore's spirit and making him lose faith in Jesus Christ, molesting his fifteen-year-old stepdaughter, Sanny, for spending time with Tore. Gradually revealing his true personality as a possessive and abusive monster, Benno does his best to make Tore's life a living hell by using every form of torture at his disposal; Benno drowns his cat in front of him and force feeds him rotten food after having starved the man. After Tore returns from the hospital, Benno begins leaving him at an erotic nightclub to be a Sex Slave, gladly mocking the sexual abuse. Challenging Tore to suffocate him with a pillow, Benno tries to attack Sanny for trying to kill him and then savagely beats Tore for defending her even after he had saved him, culminating with his murder.
  • The Wax Mask (1997): Boris Volkoff is the murderous owner of a wax museum. A Mad Artist by trade with elements of a Mad Scientist, Volkoff began his killing spree with the double-murder of his ex-wife and her new lover as revenge for throwing him into a vat of his own wax after replacing his damaged body with mechanical parts to more easily eviscerate his victims. Over the next few years, he claims many more victims and turns them into figures for his wax museum—children included—and others into cyborgs like himself, which he uses to kill for him. He takes special interest in the daughter of his first two victims, attempting to transform her into his newest model, and beats up his own assistant who looked up to him as a father figure.
  • Supergirl: The Girl of Steel: Brainiac, an evil android that wants to conquer the universe, is a dark presence in an otherwise lighthearted book. Brainiac captures Superman and lures Supergirl to a planet he is slowly cooking with red sun radiation rays. If Supergirl confronts Brainiac in his ship, he plans to capture Supergirl and experiment on her and Superman. If Supergirl frees Brainiac's alien prisoners and lets them bring her to him, Brainiac kills them without a second thought. If Supergirl confronts Brainiac on the planet, Supergirl finds that the population of the planet, a race of sapient rat creatures called Ridents, are being starved due to Brainiac's experiments destroying most of the food and the water on the planet. Brainiac is also capturing some of the Ridents and is using them as slaves, forcing them to work in a mine and dig up a jewel that could grant him untold power.
  • Flesh Welder, by Ronald Kelly: General Jeremiah Payne is the leader of a group of roving brigands in the guise of military authority who prey upon the survivors of a desolated humanity. Dr. Rourke, the titular doctor, treats a young child who relates how Payne murdered his father and raped his mother in the midst of forcibly conscripting men for warfare. A vile, disgusting Politically Incorrect Villain who carries around the ears of his victims, Payne, upon his debut, Payne proves his reputation by snidely blowing out the brains of a lethally injured woman Rourke is operating on to make his more trivial wounds Rourke's priority. Payne, horribly injured after fatally dismembering a child to terrorize the populace, is left in Rourke's hands whereupon he awakens to a horrifying yet richly deserved fate.
  • Without Remorse: Henry Tucker is the leader of a drug ring that smuggles high-grade heroin into the Baltimore area inside the bodies of American soldiers killed in The Vietnam War. He distributes the drugs via a stable of prostitutes that he controls using drugs, rape, and torture. When one of his girls escapes and befriends the hero, ex-Navy SEAL John Kelly, Tucker has her kidnapped, then rapes her, tortures her, and mutilates her corpse, forcing the other girls to watch, before dumping it in a public fountain. As Kelly tracks him down while murdering his people, he grows increasingly desperate, going so far as to kill his own associates out of paranoia, then attempts to kill his remaining girls when they prove to be a security risk.
  • Magic Kingdom of Landover:
    • Meeks, former Court Wizard and half-brother of current Court Wizard Questor Thews, is responsible, directly or indirectly, for every terrible thing that has happened in Landover since the death of the old king. Having persuaded Prince Michel Ard Rhi to abandon the throne, Meeks auctioned off the crown to the highest bidder, disposing of those who backed out and tried to reclaim their money, while Landover, bereft of the kingship disintegrated into anarchy, the country falling apart and the magic that sustained the land dying. When hero Ben Holiday managed to get the kingdom back in working order, Meeks returned to Landover, with the intent of deposing Ben, undoing the repairs that had been made, and reclaiming his books of magic—books whose power depended on the continued enslavement of the souls of the unicorns trapped within. Willing to consort with demons, slaughter innocent nymphs, and otherwise do everything in his power to ruin Landover, Meeks violated his oaths to the crown and country in every way possible.
    • Nightshade stands as Ben Holiday's most personal and vicious enemy. Part human, part fairy, and all vindictive bitch, Nightshade marked her first appearance by damning Ben's friends to Hell in Magic Kingdom for Sale/Sold, an experience which nearly killed them all. She made two more attempts on his life in The Black Unicorn and Wizard At Large, and after an enchantment forced her to care about him in Tangle Box, responded by trying to murder his wife and kidnap his newborn daughter. It's in Witches' Brew, however, where Nightshade truly comes into her own. She tries to kill Questor Thews, Abernathy, and the Gnome, Poggwydd, and succeeds in kidnapping Ben's daughter Mistaya. Convincing Mistaya that they are friends, she forces the girl to create a series of monsters which she sets loose on Ben, intending that he should either be killed, or driven mad by his constant transformations into The Paladin. When this plan too fails, Nightshade gives Mistaya a poisoned brooch and sends her to hug her father, intending that Ben should die at his daughter's hands. Concerned only with her own pride, Nightshade was willing to cross any line if it meant making Ben suffer.
  • Mapping the Bones, by Jane Yolen: Dr. von Schneir is a Nazi doctor and a former acolyte of the vile Dr. Joseph Mengele who wishes to follow in his master's footsteps of scientific depravity. Schneir is sent to the Sobanek concentration camp in order to research viruses and infects and kills several kids with typhus in order to test his theories. Fascinated by twins like his former boss, Schneir kidnaps the protagonists Chaim and Gittel along with their friend and has them starved, experimented on and near-fatally bled. Eventually, in order to complete his ghastly research, Schneir plans to butcher the trio without anesthesia while they're conscious, even gleefully holding up their friend's heart which he personally removed.
  • The Masked Truth, by Kelley Armstrong: Detective Wheeler, a corrupt cop who gleefully runs a hit squad, begins the novel by murdering a young couple. In order to kill Riley Vasquez, a witness, Wheeler plans to murder her entire teenage mental health support group, and guns down teenagers in his rampage. Murdering one of his allies to cut off loose ends while she’s begging for mercy, Wheeler stalks and rampages throughout the facility in search of Riley. Wheeler evens let one of his associates flee before waiting for him, to think he's getting away, before shooting him point blank and laughing about it, being an inhuman monster in love with violence.
  • Missing, by Kelley Armstrong: Kendrick and his partner Roscoe are a pair of born-bad serial killers who have innocent girls hunted and mauled by their feral dogs, before Kendrick and Roscoe finish killing them. Discovering his children who had been taken in by his sister, Kendrick, with help from Roscoe, tries to corrupt them into killers like themselves, with Kendrick personally executing the girlfriend of one of his sons, Lennon, when he refuses to be like him. Viewing his children and family as weak, Kendrick tries to force Lennon into killing his brother's girlfriend Winter Crane, and when he refuses, tries to murder him in front of his sister with Roscoe gunning Kendrick's sister down as well. Viewing brutality and killing as his calling, Kendrick even encourages Winter to kill him in order to fully experience the immense joy he and Roscoe feel from inflicting death, hoping to corrupt her.
  • Roanoke: Scáthach is behind centuries of countless disappearances and murders in name of her Religion of Evil since before the Salem trials. A descendant of Druids from the British colonies, Scáthach is an avid worshipper of the Old Gods who pledged her alliance to them to avoid her execution at the stake, killing several soldiers and leaving the Native Americans to take the fall for the mass murder. Coming across Thomasin White after she had been exiled by insurgents of Roanoke and left to die, Scáthach saved her in exchange for her soul and corrupted Thomasin into her right-hand woman, The Butcher. After all the rebellious settlers were executed, Scáthach forced the colonists to follow in her religious ways by practicing Human Sacrifice, with not even children being safe; when a deserter stole from the colony, Scáthach scalped him and watched as Thomasin roasted him alive. Declaring the colonists to be "children in need of discipline" for wanting to stop the bloodshed, Scáthach proposed the idea to perform the ritual of the Blood Moon on the land to enslave their souls for all of eternity; after Thomasin poisoned her people, including Thomasin's own son, Scáthach slashed her throat to conclude the massacre. With the Lost Colony slaughtering anyone who comes near Roanoke in brutal ritualistic killings and adding their souls into their ranks as fresh slaves, Scáthach still oversees them to make sure that her sacrifices are carried out. During the events of My Roanoke Nightmare and Return to Roanoke, Scáthach distorts Matt Miller's mind to turn him into her Sex Slave and later influences his sister, Lee Harris, obtaining her soul to make her the new Butcher.
  • Creepshow: Lester M. Barclay, from "Times is Tough in Musky Holler", is the former mayor of the eponymous Musky Holler city. After a Zombie Apocalypse plagued the world, Lester came into Musky Holler offering his aide to the townsfolk. As soon as he was elected mayor, he used his power in office to overthrow and kill his predecessor, along with anyone else who challenged him. During his time as mayor, Lester had his followers spread propaganda about his laws, sanctioned his police force to rape and murder as they pleased, and imprisoned anyone who spoke out against him. Lester also created a sadistic, publicized game called "Live Pie", where a group of civilians would slowly be swarmed by zombies headfirst with no way of defending themselves.
  • Dangerous Moms (Señoras del (h)AMPA): Carmona, the first season's Big Bad, is a crime boss who is introduced cutting off one of her subordinate's ears to punish him for a failure that wasn't even his fault. After the mother protagonists unwittingly cause her to lose 50,000 euros, she kidnaps and tortures one of them until the rest of the group brings her the money, while in truth not planning to release her. When she learns that her gang had released her behind her back she decides to send a message by asking her mutilated subordinate to murder another group member's child, then tries to kill him when he refuses. Positively giddy at the thought of her mooks brutally massacring her enemies at their kids' first communion celebration, she fatally poisons one of them after learning that they had messed up by going to the wrong banquet hall. Ultimately deciding to forcibly make the protagonists into her new subordinates, she threatens to kill their families if they refuse, her last act before her defeat being to try to kill all of their children. Ruthless, vicious and bloodthirsty almost to the point of being outright addicted to killing, Carmona is a surprisingly vile villain in an otherwise relatively comic show.
  • Daybreak (2019): Baron Triumph, aka Principal Burr, is introduced as a cannibalistic warlord roaming the post-apocalyptic lands, capturing teenagers to serve as slave labor under the threat of death, and keeping the rest as cattle for him. Before the apocalypse, he manipulated Ms. Crumble in her moments of emotional weakness to have sex with him. In the season finale, after he takes over the jocks through a coup, he claims to be helping them to go back to "normalcy" only to show his true colors when he turns all the Jocks into his new food supply. His true vileness is shown in the last episode when he reveals his ultimate plan: to detonate an inactive nuke to destroy all that's left of Glendale and start anew in a world fit to his image. When he's finally defeated for good, it's revealed that he never cared for any of the kids at the school even before the apocalypse, doing everything for entirely selfish reasons. With any of his supposed good qualities being all an act with ulterior intentions, Triumph proved himself to be an irredeemable monster from beginning to end, willing to do anything to get his way.
  • The Girl Who Sees Smells/Sensory Couple (2015 series): Kwon Jae-hee, the true identity of the Barcode Killer, is the Overarching Villain of the show. Afflicted by a cognitive disorder that leaves him unable to recognize faces, Kwon is suspected to have murdered his adoptive American parents in an "accident" when their RV caught fire with them inside. After dropping out of Harvard Medical School when a psychological test deemed him unfit to be a doctor, Kwon returned to Korea and became a famous chef, solely because his profession allowed him to kill living things without reprimand, abandoning his future in medicine when he couldn't see himself saving lives instead of killing. Harboring a twisted idea that he could own human lives, Kwon began forcing people to chronicle their lives in empty books before suffocating them to death and carving barcodes onto their wrists as his way of reducing them to mere covers for his books, repeating this process in a 12-month cycle and collecting the books as morbid trophies. Starting with the ex-wife of a police detective, Kwon murdered Oh Cho-rim's biological parents and then, in a failed to attempt to eliminate the witness, slashed the throat of a girl who shared her original name, Choi Moo-gak's sister. Years later, Kwon murdered his own girlfriend and then the closest friend that he had to cover his tracks, "owning" their lives as well; when Kwon is baited into kidnapping Lieutenant Yeom Mi, Kwon tries to kill her anyway and is almost successful. Escaping custody when the van that was transporting him suspiciously fell into a river, taking the lives of innocent policemen, Kwon kidnapped Cho-rim on the day of her wedding with Moo-gak to kill them both, even after the latter showed him mercy.
  • "Vs. Marx": Marx is an psychopathic jester and is much more sadistic and evil than he was in canon. Desiring to achieve power from the wish-granting comet Galactic Nova so he can drive the entire universe into chaos and kill everyone, Marx tricks the sun and moon into going to war so he can trick Kirby into summoning Nova so Marx can grant his wish, knowing full well that the war will result in the deaths of many, to Marx's sadistic glee.
  • Maximum the Hormone's "F" note : Frieza is a sadistic tyrant who makes a living off of purging planets of their inhabitants. Frieza has invaded countless planets and slaughtered their inhabitants, even if they surrender. Those who survive under his rule are stripped of all rights and regularly tortured while Frieza ruins the planet. Longing for immortality, Frieza declares war on Namek upon finding out about the Dragon Balls, not even bothering to offer the Namekians the opportunity of peacefully giving them to him. Gleefully killing countless innocents in his pursuit of eternal life, the chorus notes how all the galaxy can do is cry out in fear of the tyrant.
  • Steampianist's "Secrets of Wysteria": Based on the real life Serial Killer, Albert Fish is also a serial child molester, sexual sadist and cannibal. The song tells of his infamous murder and later cannibalization of Grace Budd after luring her away. It is then described how he'd torture and mutilate numerous children in his "game". The depths of his evil are revealed in garbled backwards message at the songs end; being Fish's (real life) confession to Grace's mother, gloating about eating her daughter and the only reason he didn't rape her was because he didn't feel like it.
  • Unproduced script, by Max Landis: Rita Repulsa, the former Black Ranger, is the leader of the Dominators who serves Lord Zedd. After being freed from her asteroid prison on Earth, Rita, after acquiring her scepter, plans to travel back to Zedd so that she can join him in his plans of galactic conquest, all at a cost of destroying the entire Earth, a fact she's downright proud of. Torturing Zordon once she breaks into his lair, she sends a giant Goldar out to destroy Angel Grove as a way to distract the Power Rangers while she accomplishes her plan.
  • Aliens: Colonial Marines (includes Stasis Interrupted): Michael Bishop/Michael Weyland is the face of Weyland-Yutani Corporation and the mastermind behind their experiments on Xenomorphs in hopes of creating a perfect bioweapon. Ordering his subordinates to build a massive Origin Facility on Acheron LV-426 moon under very harsh and deadly conditions and capturing the Xenomorph Queen to produce facehuggers, Michael kidnapped hundreds of colonists for his experiments, turning them into the hosts for the Xenomorphs, which always resulted in their agonizing deaths. Capturing Corporal Dwayne Hicks, Bishop tortures him for information. and after Colonial Marines discover his atrocities, Michael ordered his troops to destroy their ship, resulting in over 300 of the Marines dying.
  • Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Colonel Arkady Kirilenko is one of the leading officers in Russia's conquest of the world and the head of a project to create a weapon of mass destruction, called the Scalar Weapon. Leading his forces in spreading death and destruction all over the world, killing many, Arkady uses Agent Aguire's anger at the US, for sending his father to die, to help him find the final piece of the Scalar Weapon, after which he quickly disposes of him. Finishing his weapon, Arkady first tested it on US forces in the Colombian city of Medellin, further destroying the city, as well as killing all US troops there and some of his own men. Satisfied with the results, Arkady tries to fly this weapon to the US, so that he could use it there in an attempt to destroy part of the country, so that America would be easily invaded and annihilated by Russian forces.
  • Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon and Luigi's Mansion 3: King Boo sheds any of his redeeming qualities from the first game and becomes an unfettered monster. After his first defeat by Luigi, King Boo is consumed by his lust for revenge, devolving into an uncaring sociopath who would willingly kill everyone and destroy everything just for a chance to get back at his rival. In Dark Moon, King Boo shatters the Dark Moon, enslaving the minds of the once-docile ghosts of Evershade Valley to his control. Unleashing them on the valley, King Boo abducts Mario himself and several Toads and imprisons them within paintings. Uncaring about his minions, and in a stark contrast to his characterization in the first game, King Boo performs experiments on his ghosts against their will to amplify their destructive potential, and calmly allows his own Boos to be caught and sealed by Luigi. After Luigi gets close to restoring the Dark Moon, King Boo starts to lose it, and tears open a portal to the ghosts' homeworld with the intent to destroy the universe as an act of spite. Once he's foiled, King Boo warps Luigi to his own dimension, announcing his intent to trap Luigi and all his friends in paintings as he conquers the world and "paints the town red". In 3, he is set free by Hellen Gravely, and together they gather Luigi and his friends in the Last Resort hotel in another attempt to trap them in paintings. When Hellen and her staff are all captured, King Boo dismisses them as worthless failures and eventually tries to absorb the entire hotel, including all the captured ghosts and his own Boos, into a group painting just to capture Luigi.
  • Nova Seed (2016): The evil Dr. Mindskull, having been responsible for a series of monster attacks and disasters upon humanity, pledges to annihilate all that is left of the post-apocalyptic world using the powers of an alien child capable of creating plant life. Going to every length to kill his genetic "NAC" brother who seeks to stop him, Mindskull reveals the "new world" he raves about is himself, using the alien child to turn himself into a Botanical Abomination to crush waves of soldiers and march toward the nearest city to destroy everything in sight.

Edited by ACW on Nov 18th 2019 at 1:23:58 PM

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Goku Black
#191891: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:30:14 AM

Ah sure why not?

Whats the work?

A taste for monsters by Mathew j kirby. It’s London 1888, and Jack the Ripper is terrorizing the people of the city. Evelyn, a young woman disfigured by her dangerous work in a matchstick factory, who has nowhere to go, does not know what to make of her new position as a maid to the Elephant Man in the London Hospital. Evelyn wants to be locked away from the world, like he is, shut in from the filth and dangers of the streets. But in Joseph Merrick, the Elephant Man, she finds a gentle kindred who does not recoil from her and who understands her pain.

When the murders begin, however, Joseph and Evelyn are haunted nightly by the ghosts of the Ripper’s dead, setting Evelyn on a path to facing her fears and uncovering humanity’s worst nightmares.

Who is Jack the ripper ?

Anyway the book focuses more on the ghosts of her victims. So Ill just give a short summary. An old mid wife of discernible name since we dont actually know who jack the ripper is. Shes been butchering women in whitechapel for funsies. Stalking and luring them in before murdering them in expectionally brutal ways. Described as a monsterous evil that stalks the street and spreads carnage and murder by the narration.

Anyway from the top:

  • Slashes the throat of Mary Anne Nichols in perhaps the least goriest murder.
  • Annie Chapman was disemblowed and had her throat slit after being asphyxiated and afterards having her uterus cut out.
  • Elizbeth stride was stabbed multiple times before being butchered (which is the one we see at the beginning of the book).
  • Catherine eddowes was stabbed multiple times. While her organs were cut out.
  • Mary jane kelly was bucthered with multiple organs removed.

Anyway the book is spent on letting them cross-over. Mary though wants payback and and end to the murders. She teams up with heroine Evelyn and two find her. (see post above). Jack then hits Evelyn's jaw were a part of it was removed and uses the opporunity to flee. The two cahse her to a subway with Mary taking control of her temporaliy to push her ito the incomming train where she dies for good.

The two began clonning women and began to fund themsleves through a truley sick method. Wilson and Ivcoe cloned women and then raised the girls in their academy. Their then raised to be perfect husbands/sex salves for willing buyers when theyve grown up. The process is often fatal the cloning sytem and some cloes have outright terminted themselves when they found out what they were.

Freudain Excuse ?

Uh none given beyond just pure sadism.

Other mtigating factors

Right so we dont get her name but she does have dialogue showing her to be a jerkass. Even ignoring that we get lots of descpetions of her fromEvelyn who flesh her out as a vile, vile thing. All of her crimes are recanted with special focus on her victims. So yeah I dont think shes a GDV. Plus this is too sadsistic and personal to be a GDV.

Conlusion?

All yours.

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Gentle Laborer
#191893: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:35:34 AM

I think Jack is a [tup]

For Scáthach: Is Offing the Offspring necessary? Considering Ambrose was not her son, but the Butcher's? Also, I'm contemplating removing "the original and worst Supreme to have mastered witchcraft" since it is primarily Word of God.

Edited by TheMadCr0w on Nov 17th 2019 at 3:37:21 PM

falcontalons from Earth-2 Since: Apr, 2019
#191894: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:36:55 AM

Sure to another Jack.

The two began clonning women and began to fund themsleves through a truley sick method. Wilson and Ivcoe cloned women and then raised the girls in their academy. Their then raised to be perfect husbands/sex salves for willing buyers when theyve grown up. The process is often fatal the cloning sytem and some cloes have outright terminted themselves when they found out what they were.

I think some of your Jonah Wilson EP ended up in the Jack EP.

Edited by falcontalons on Nov 17th 2019 at 9:37:17 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191895: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:38:37 AM

[up] I noticed that same thing [lol]

Yes to Jack.

Let's go with this:

  • Scáthach is behind centuries of countless disappearances and murders in name of her Religion of Evil since before the Salem trials. A descendant of Druids from the British colonies, Scáthach is an avid worshipper of the Old Gods who pledged her alliance to them to avoid her execution at the stake, killing several soldiers and leaving the Native Americans to take the fall for the mass murder. Coming across Thomasin White after she had been exiled by insurgents of Roanoke and left to die, Scáthach saved her in exchange for her soul and corrupted Thomasin into her right-hand woman, The Butcher. After all the rebellious settlers were executed, Scáthach forced the colonists to follow in her religious ways by practicing Human Sacrifice, with not even children being safe; when a deserter stole from the colony, Scáthach scalped him and watched as Thomasin roasted him alive. Declaring the colonists to be "children in need of discipline" for wanting to stop the bloodshed, Scáthach proposed the idea to perform the ritual of the Blood Moon on the land to enslave their souls for all of eternity; after Thomasin poisoned her people, including Thomasin's own son, Scáthach slashed her throat to conclude the massacre. With the Lost Colony slaughtering anyone who comes near Roanoke in brutal ritualistic killings and adding their souls into their ranks as fresh slaves, Scáthach still oversees them to make sure that her sacrifices are carried out. During the events of My Roanoke Nightmare and Return to Roanoke, Scáthach distorts Matt Miller's mind to turn him into her Sex Slave and later influences his sister, Lee Harris, obtaining her soul to make her the new Butcher.

Edited by ACW on Nov 17th 2019 at 12:40:48 PM

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VeryVileVillian (Apprentice)
#191897: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:43:35 AM

As for Old King, I wanna here from VVV, since he seems to know the game.

I can go either way if this line is redeeming somehow, even though Old King never shown to care in any way about The Raven before saying this in final mission (and that's only if he gets killed), if The Raven joins him.

To be fair, the game has absolutely no cutscenes whatsoever, aside from mission briefings. All plot goes from mission briefings and dialogues during the gameplay (which are minimal) and since the environments are absolutely empty, aside from "cardboard buildings" (the game literally has no human models to show off), i kinda let it slide as Old King never gets the opportunity to show any genuine respect or care toward The Raven, aside from that throway line, which i didn't take seriously as he said it with a bit of humor and amusement.

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Nov 17th 2019 at 8:44:13 PM

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Goku Black
#191898: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:46:05 AM

Sorry my bad. Didnt notice that. I used the same writing place for drafting up eps.

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The Draftsman of Doom
#191899: Nov 17th 2019 at 9:46:19 AM

Doesn't exactly sound like Old King does care.

Feels good, don't it?
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191900: Nov 17th 2019 at 10:00:11 AM

Okay:

  • Armored Core: For Answer: Old King is an "outsider" within the terrorist group ORCA and their most vile member, who seeks to bring as much death and destruction as possible. Helping ORCA in trying to create widespread destruction, Old King tries to destroy the 5 colonies, called Cradle 03, which carried 100 million people. If Strayed allies with him in one of the endings, Old King succeeds, happily counting how many people died and uses Strayed to kill millions more, turning him into "mankind's greatest monster".

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