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Edited by nombretomado on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:42:19 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Sep 21st 2019 at 2:13:37 PM

That's fine. I'll have it thusly. Video Game page then Final Fantasy page:

  • Makai Toshi SaGa: The Creator is the true power behind Ashura, the Four Fiends and all the woes they've inflicted on the world. Creating a tower separated into numerous worlds, the Creator made a "game" where adventurers would climb the tower believing Paradise to lie at its Apex. To create his game, the Creator deliberately made the worlds miserable, which included setting up a war in the World of Continent between three kings, having Byak-Ko establish a cruel dictatorship in the World of Clouds and having Su-Zaku turn the World of Ruin into a post-apocalyptic wasteland. When confronted by the party the Creator callously claims that because he created everything he can do anything he wants with the worlds and the people within, revealing himself to be a cruel and narcissistic god.

  • The Final Fantasy Legend: The Creator is the true power behind Ashura, the Four Fiends and all the woes they've inflicted on the world. Creating a tower separated into numerous worlds, the Creator made a "game" where adventurers would climb the tower believing Paradise to lie at its Apex. To create his game, the Creator deliberately made the worlds miserable, which included setting up a war in the World of Continent between three kings, having Byak-Ko establish a cruel dictatorship in the World of Clouds and having Su-Zaku turn the World of Ruin into a post-apocalyptic wasteland. When confronted by the party the Creator callously claims that because he created everything he can do anything he wants with the worlds and the people within, revealing himself to be a cruel and narcissistic god.

Edited by ACW on Sep 21st 2019 at 5:34:28 AM

CM Drafts; Pending CM Writeups
PolarPhantom Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Sep 21st 2019 at 2:22:14 PM

List Ashura as The Heavy or something. Otherwise I'll let you choose however you want it to look.

Darkness rises and Light to meet it.
Sep 21st 2019 at 2:47:36 PM

Personally, I think it works.

miraculous I am so tired of this gothic crap from South Africa
I am so tired of this gothic crap
Sep 21st 2019 at 2:53:47 PM

Looks fine.

Just once, I want to meet the villain in a cheerful, brightly lit room. Possibly one with kittens
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Sep 21st 2019 at 2:55:36 PM

I actually have that last part (this) as part of the image caption. Think I'll use the whole image.

CM Drafts; Pending CM Writeups
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:01:08 PM

No to Koala. Abstaining on Shadar.

Yes to BTK, the Priestess, Herold, Kipinski, Korel, and Ramirez.

Here is my write up for Master Mold, anyone who wants to vote on her who hasn't can now:

  • Wolverine and the X-Men: Master Mold is the AI designed by Dr. Bolivar Trask to direct his Sentinels' efforts to contain mutants. After the world is devastated by the Phoenix Force and a large portion of humanity is killed, Master Mold takes over and becomes a dictator. Master Mold has her Sentinels round up mutants and put them in detention camps. Master Mold has turned humans like Colonel Moss into cyborg slaves, having them work as guards in her camps. Powerful mutants are sent to labs to be experimented on, so the Sentinels can reproduce their powers and are killed after the experimentation is done. Later Master Mold captures Professor Xavier, hooking him up to a Cebro unit so she can locate every remaining mutant on the planet, planning to have her Sentinels kill them all. After that is done, Master Mold decides Xavier is no longer useful to her and orders him to be killed.

Also, I have got a new proposal, a brand new book series never covered here, a series of books aimed at kids, but like some of my Choose Your Own Adventure proposals, these are not the usual child-friendly fare, this book deals with child abuse and Satan!

Who is Dr. Hugo Dredd? What has he done?

Dr. Hugo Dredd is the main villain of the book ''Dr. Dredd and his wagon of Wonders'', part of the Coven Tree series, a series of books that deal with supernatural happens in the small town of Coven Tree, with the theme being ''careful what you wish for'' and Dredd takes that to a great extreme.

Dr. Hugo Dredd is a servant of Satan, he goes around America with his ''Wagon of Wonders'' and offers to do favors for towns in need, for an undisclosed price. The price is, after the favor is done, the people of the town become consumed by greed, buildings fall into disrepair, animals die due to lack of care and humans become mad beasts who attack each other in the streets, care about family, decency or the law go out the window and everyone only cares about getting more for themselves. Dredd likes to revisit these towns sometimes to admire his handiwork.

Dredd and his Wagon come to Coven Tree that is suffering a drought. He has a boy in service, Bufu the Rain Boy, who can make rain at a command (though it causes him physical pain), Dredd promises the mayor that Bufu will make it rain to end the drought, for a price to be named later....

Bufu is actually Calvin Huckabee, an orphan that Dredd got from an orphanage. Dredd mistreats Calvin constantly, whipping him for the smallest infraction and barely feeding him. Calvin escapes before he can complete the deal and Dredd spends the rest of the book trying to get him back. Calvin is taken in by a young girl named Ellen McCabe and her mother and she convinces the town to turn against Dredd.

Dredd sends his strong man Antaeus to capture Calvin, but he is defeated. Dredd then sends a magical Black Knight to capture him and will have the Knight level Coven Tree while searching for Calvin, but the Knight is defeated.

Dredd is now losing patience, during a meeting at the Church to decide what to do what Dredd, Satan himself summons zombies to scare the town's people (they cannot enter the Church) and Dredd arrives at the Church door to bargain for the boy (he will not enter the Church either). After the town's people refuse to give him the boy, Dredd breaks open an egg containing a dragon, the dragon grows to full size and will burn down Coven Tree if that is what it takes to recover Calvin.

Calvin and Ellen flee to a mountain, with Dredd and his dragon in pursuit. Dredd intends to kill Ellen right in front of him, to teach him a lesson. Clavin summons a giant storm and a lightning strike destroys the dragon and Dredd.

Is he heinous by the standard of the work?

I think so, most of the stories of Coven Tree involve a wish going wrong for an individual and causing a problem for that one person.

Dredd ruins entire towns and engages in different schemes to destroy Coven Tree (killing all 600 people there) if they do not give him the boy and is a cruel sadistic abuser.

600 people is not a huge body count for a demon, but it fits the setting of the book and makes the stakes still relevant.

Any Freudian Excuse or other redeeming qualities?

Nah, he cares nothing for his minions, he cares nothing for Calvin and serving Satan is certainly not redeeming. He may not be able to enter a church, but there is no evidence he lacks moral agency.

Dr. Dredd has amazing powers himself (he can summon storms and earthquakes), but he believes using such powers in this manner is beneath, which is why he relies on minions and monsters instead of handling things himself.

Final Verdict?

Do not make deals with a man named Dr. Dredd, especially if he does not say what his fee is for this deal.

Edited by Overlord on Sep 21st 2019 at 3:21:45 AM

falcontalons from the Band of the Falcon
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:03:04 PM

Yes to Dr. Dredd.

All of you are too accustomed to scheming over things from behind your desks. This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield.
miraculous I am so tired of this gothic crap from South Africa
I am so tired of this gothic crap
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:08:41 PM

[tup]Dredd

@acw: Mold will go in between Shadow king and selene and Sebastian Shaw in the tree as that's the order of first appearance.

Just once, I want to meet the villain in a cheerful, brightly lit room. Possibly one with kittens
DelphineTheDelphox Hey, guys! Wanna buy some magic? from The Alola Region Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Hey, guys! Wanna buy some magic?
Bullman Relationship Status: Abstaining
TheMadCr0w Anti Anti Christ from Insignificant Little Blue Planet Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:13:58 PM

[tup] to the above.

I have recently watched Faiz with the original english translation and I have to do some changes, the other translation got some things wrong. Apparently, Masahiko Minami wants to purge all Orphnochs rather than turning them into weapons, and doesn't want to trap Orphnochs in their monster forms, but quite the opposite, he wants to revert them back to humans, which fortunately doesn't make him sympathetic, as his experiments are highly dangerous and Minami confesses to not caring for the well-being of his subjects after one man accuses him of performing inhumane acts.

  • Kamen Rider 555: Masahiko Minami is a xenophobic National Police Agency officer and human supremacist who leads an opposition against Orphnochs to purge all of them, living by his own sociopathic dilemma of using those who allow themselves to be used. Introduced stopping a police investigation, Minami recruits an innocent detective to spy on an Orphnoch, and orders his death when the man began sympathizing with Orphnochs. In his facility, Minami has an Orphnoch kept locked inside a glass box as his own guinea pig, conducting inhumane experiments to revert them back to human form. Making a deal with Smart Brain to have more subjects, Minami captures Yuka and electrocutes her, ignoring complaints that the operation could kill her, as he considers her a "worthless life" anyway. When she is saved by his prisoner, Minami promises that he is trying to work towards human and Orphnoch cooperation, but sets up a squad of heavily armed soldiers to eliminate Yuka, Kiba and Takumi, indirectly causing her death. When the laboratory is attacked by an enraged Kiba, Minami leaves his staff to die and escapes to save his own skin. When he's found and killed by Kiba, Minami spends his last moments laughing at his face and stating that the Orphnochs will never succeed. Existing solely to show that Humans Are the Real Monsters, Minami proved himself to be far more evil than many Orphnochs.

Edited by TheMadCr0w on Sep 21st 2019 at 7:17:23 AM

Then that means there will always be a need for a dark lord. All because I ducked out from becoming the next in line!
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:20:16 PM

Sure to Dredd. Seems like Leland Gaunt.

CM Drafts; Pending CM Writeups
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:23:06 PM

[up][up] Yeah, this book is like Needful Things, but for kids.

Though this book came out earlier, Needful Things was 1991, this book was 1987.

Edited by Overlord on Sep 21st 2019 at 3:27:02 AM

CloisterTheStupid from Oop North Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:25:04 PM

[tup] to Dredd. [tdown] to Koala.

G-Editor 300 episodes aired from Where do you think? Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
300 episodes aired
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:41:15 PM

[tup] to Dredd

300 more episodes to go.
GeorgieEnkoom Emperor Enkoom Evulz II from Somewhere.
Emperor Enkoom Evulz II
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:51:50 PM

Sure to Dredd.

That said? Narende! (Let's go in Comorian)

What's the work?

La République des imberbes is a 1985 French-written Comorian novel written by Mohamed Toihiri (born in 1955), a French-Comorian writer and journalist and the Permanent Representative to the United Nations for Comoros, (also accredited as ambassador to the United States, Canada and Cuba) between 2007 and 2012. Toihiri is known as Comoros's first published author and is one of the very first people involved in the growing Comorian literature.

The novel itself, while having only fictional characters, is also heavily critical of Ali Soilih (who was was a Comorian socialist revolutionary and political figure who served as the 3rd President of the Comoros from 1976 to 1978, who gained power through a coup and was overthrown through a coup before being killed in his cell in May 29, 1978) and his atrocities (look here for more information).

As for the story itself? Well, the Villain Protagonist is Guigoz (there's also another main character named Haïdar towards the second half of the story, but we won't deal with him since, while he may be a Zazis, he ends up pulling a Heel–Face Turn), and the story deals with his rise and fall of power. The guy is charming, affectionate, wants the best for his country, the Comoros and is affectionately called "Big Brother".

But he wouldn't be our candidate if he was just that, right?

Who is Guigoz? What has he done?

An obvious Expy of Ali Soilih, Guigoz was The Ace back in school, but had already Troubling Unchildlike Behavior and was a bully, blackmailing his classmates into giving him food otherwise he'd fight them. He was eventually stopped when his victims tricked him into eating dog. He later went to high school in Madagascar, and got enough money to continue his studies in Paris. There, he grew a desire to shape the Comoros' history and quickly became a very cultured man.

Coming back to the Comoros, Guigoz became member of a far-left group planning to pull a coup d'État and take over the Comoros. When it was his turn to talk, Guigoz told them that they could manipulate France into helping them with the coup, as France was still butt-hurt over losing yet another colony. He also advises them into putting in place competent people in each minister, quickly won over most of the group with his charisma, advised using more and more information alongside every single language in the country (English, French, Comorian, Arabic and Hindinote ). This leads to the group advising Guigoz to become the head of state once they took over.

If only they knew how wrong they were...

The coup is successful, and Guigoz becomes the Guide and the Big Brother of the state.

His first laws?

"All national service agents, enterprises and public establishments must leave their jobs and agents of Comorian nationality must return to their family home to suckle the breast of their mother and cease to receive their remuneration." The administration itself as a whole is dissolved.

"Are also dissolved: — all political parties and groups of a political nature. — all societies of law or fact, operating under the law of 1901 of the French Republic."

"Not dissolved: — The People’s Army — The People’s Police — The People’s Gendarmerie — The People’s Militia."

Smells nice, huh? Oh, and Guigoz gets full power. And I don't need to mention the full control over the media, right?

First, the country closes itself to the outside world North Korea style. Then, the country's archives are destroyed, under the claim that it was part of their history under France. Then, animism, "sorcery" and "witchcraft" are forbidden and the practice of Islam is heavily restricted. Now, the "sorcery" and "witchcraft" part sounds like Kick the Son of a Bitch, especially with the following chapter showing the Foundi Sandrabo (Foundi means Teacher in Comorian) first getting money off off a woman who wants him to use a spell to help her son, then raping her.

Errr.... If it wasn't for one, little, really itty-bitty problem...

Well, despite that, several "sorcerers" are actually advising Guigoz. Yeah. You read that right. Oh and under their advice, Guigoz has them sacrifices 7 seven-year old kids (three boys, four girls). Allow me to give you the details for you guys to enjoy. All of them are strangled, while a nail is slammed in their skull with a hammer, with the first girl managing to scream even when strangled. And their blood is collected for seven naja snakes to lick it.

Meanwhile, when a bunch of old folks sacrifices a goat for their harmless superstitial purposes... Guigoz's Zazis commandos (obvious expies of Ali Soilih's "Moissy" revolutionary militia) capture them, ties them up to jeeps, and drives said jeeps, dragging the culprits, and laughing at the old folks'... misfortune. Oh, and one of the old people's got asthma and reacts as you'd expect to his precarious situation. Not that the Zazis cares.

Guigoz also manipulated the Comorian youth into joining his revolutionary ideas. Said corrupted youth then went on to commit murders, thefts, horrors and of course rapes. Oh, and everyone was listening to everyone. You make one mistake, let's just say that you weren't going to enjoy what would happen next. Even your own family could report you. No Holds-Barred Beatdowns became common with the Zazis around. To put it nicely? You were a senior, you were fucked.

Oh, and when a family was caught practicing witchcraft? They were forced to fill a hundred-liter barrel with seawater using a teaspoon. Sounds easy right?

And they were the lucky ones. If you ended up caught by Zazis... You were horribly tortured. 100 lashes even for the smallest crime. And then... You were lucky. Others were tortured to death. We're taking about heads flattened to the ground, more Eye Screams than Naruto and horrible mutilations. And if the Zazis were feeling nice? Either you had to shave your pubic bone with a shard of bottle, or you were forced to lay on the ground, with incandescent embers on your navel and hot coconut oil in your private parts especially if you happened to be a girl. Your choice! Another committee of a village in Hambou had simply asked a man who had repudiated his wife for no good reason, to pull out one by one and by hand all the leaves of the hundred-year-old badamier of the public square.

Okay, with all of this shit? Let's have a good laugh before returning to serious mode : a polygamous man (three wives) caught cheating on his wives with a goat was sentenced to forcibly divorce all of his wives and marry the goat. But that's just one black comedy moment. The novel remains serious apart from that.

When an old lady didn't recognize Guigoz and told him that the people were against Guigoz... He forced her to run around the Baumer stadium twelve times and not to talk for three days.

When a family, due to the patriarch's demise, dared to eat a 10-kilo papaya, two members of the family were sentenced to eat it all in the public place. Otherwise? They'd have to deal with the Zazis.

When Mr. Kafoungou and Mrs. Ganga were caught having sex without having married, they were forced to scream that they were fornicators everywhere they went. If this isn't public humiliation...

When "sorcerers" told Guigoz that spirits were angry and required three sacrifices, including one person truly close to Guigoz, Guigoz tricked his friend and advisor Lulé Ben Katil into killing two people. Lulé was judged and under Guigoz's advice, was sentenced to death. Guigoz later visited Lulé in prison, and told him that he was going to fake his death, with bullets being replaced by blanks, before sending Lulé to France. Lulé was obviously happy not to die and agreed. The day of the execution... Turns out the bullets fired weren't blanks, and Lulé died.

Let's go to another Comorian village : Iconi. There, a year after Lulé's death, a group tried to rebel against Guigoz. Guigoz goes to Iconi with a bunch of Zazis (Haïdar included) natives from Iconi, and threatens to torture the entire village if they don't reveal the rebels' identities. When someone pointed his finger to Moussa Mwandza-Shonga (who wasn't even part of the rebel group), the latter claimed he was innocent and attacked his accuser. A Zazis tried to separate them, but failed, and the whole thing led to an onslaught in the entire village while Guigoz hid in his armored car. Eleven people died in the scene, several ended up permanently handicapped, and 100 people were captured and killed. This kickstarted, however, Guigoz's downfall.

Guigoz was overthrown by John Ménard (an Expy of Bob Denard) and thrown in prison. There, an imam tried to redeem him (and also convert him to Islam, as Guigoz had abandoned Islam before even rising to power), and Guigoz rejected the offer. Later on, one person named Judas claimed that he could help him escape and even pulled Crocodile Tears to convince him. Guigoz was eager to jump at the occasion, but it was in truth a Batman Gambit so that they could assassinate Guigoz and make it look like an escape attempt. The Batman Gambit was a complete success, ending Guigoz's life.

Heinousness?

Okay, so let's not beat it around the bush. The heinous standard is surprisingly high. A bunch of Bétsirébakas (a tribe from Madagascar), thoroughly pissed that one of them had been humiliated by a Comorian man (that would be forgetting that the Bétsirébaka kid was hanging out with another Comorian kid, at whom the Comorian man was just as pissed at), retaliated by attacking a bunch of Comorian immigrants to Madagascar. In the most gory ways possible : Two women raped two Comorian women by penetrating them with chili peeper before disemboweling them and leaving them alive to slowly die from blood loss. 5 other Bétsirébakas cut off a man's legs before crucifying him and then burning him alive. And generally, the Bétsirébaka group was allowed to do those atrocities to an entire group of Comorians because policemen let them do and even laughed at the victims. That onslaught traumatized the Comorian community in Madagascar to the point a good chunk of them decided to go back to the Comoros. Even the Zazis took pity on them. Not to mention Foundi Sandrabo raping a woman after scamming her, talking advantage of her being forced to remain silent (otherwise? Zazis!). Lulé himself is no innocent either, being a con artist, killing his own pregnant wife in Madagascar just so that he could see a fetus and happily killing a couple because he owed them a debt and showing no regret for it, even telling the audience as such in a Faux Affably Evil tone. In fact, Lulé even wanted Guigoz to kill the couple the second they became friends, but Guigoz refused to do it until then, not out of standards, but because he throught Lulé's Ax-Crazy behavior could be useful to him later. A bunch of dirty cops also raped and killed refugees from Anjouan.

But Guigoz wouldn't be our candidate if he didn't manage to make it through the heinous standard, right?

Okay, the sacrifice of kids like he did? That's an unique one. Guy's already got a point. To top it off? Even though Guigoz wasn't a rapist, the Zazis were acting on his orders, only adding to his list of crimes. Would Hurt a Child, Would Harm a Senior, The Corrupter, mass murder, torture, Rape by Proxy... You name it, he did it. Ultimately, Guigoz flies over the heinous standard, stomp on it, eat it, and sent it to hell and back. By the introduction, he's even referred to as Satan in a human's skin. A more than accurate comparison.

Freudian Excuse? Mitigating factors? Redeeming qualities?

While he lacks a Freudian Excuse, Guigoz has one potential redeeming quality : his genuine affection for Lulé, whom he openly refers to as a friend.

But he wouldn't be our candidate if that redeeming quality was there from beginning to end, right?

Problem is, when a bunch of "sorcerers" tells him that to remain in power he has to kill three people, including someone close to him? Guigoz has no problem offing Lulé, while still considering him a friend. That redeeming quality turns into a Junko Enoshima/Dio Brando case : love, instead of just making him evil, making him regret his choices or even hesitate to harm the object of his affection, only emphasizes his evil. He has no regrets over doing that, on top of it, merely mentioning that at least he won't have to deal with Lulé's annoying presence.

To top it off? Later on, when thinking about Lulé and his past, Guigoz refers to him as an ex-friend and no longer cares about him, thus definitely shedding a redeeming quality that already stopped being redeeming to begin with.

He's also a Graceful Loser, accepting his defeat when overthrown by John Ménard, but it doesn't comes off as humanizing, as he when faced with an opportunity to escape, he has no problem taking it, and he has no regrets over what he did. Him being a Graceful Loser is also because he knew that his rule was over, that there was no need to fight any longer, and that it was the only way to remain in the word of the living. Ultimately, it's Pragmatic Villainy, it's about saving his own skin and nothing more.

It's implied his mom is alive, but at one moment when he's busy, he says he mustn't be disturbed even if his mom kicked the bucket, showing he doesn't value her that much either. On top of that, she's barely mentioned and doesn't personally appears.

He also regrets the Iconi massacre, but not out of empathy towards it's victims, but because it kickstarted his downfall.

Ultimately, by the end? Hashé. Guigoz is a textbook sociopath who's one true redeeming quality is torn apart and thrown away like paper.

Verdict?

First Comorian CM?

BTW, with college starting since a week I'll be much less present on the thread, and I probably won't effortpost someone. If someone could handle Guigoz's writeup for me I'll be grateful. Thanks!

Edited by GeorgieEnkoom on Oct 6th 2019 at 11:54:41 AM

Here's my Code Lyoko/Naruto fanfic.
falcontalons from the Band of the Falcon
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:55:40 PM

[tup] to Guigoz.

All of you are too accustomed to scheming over things from behind your desks. This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield.
DelphineTheDelphox Hey, guys! Wanna buy some magic? from The Alola Region Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Hey, guys! Wanna buy some magic?
miraculous I am so tired of this gothic crap from South Africa
I am so tired of this gothic crap
Sep 21st 2019 at 3:58:41 PM

[tup]Guigoz

Just once, I want to meet the villain in a cheerful, brightly lit room. Possibly one with kittens
TheAlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose from Surrounding the mind of A Self Called Nowhere Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Darkwing Goose
Sep 21st 2019 at 4:01:41 PM

[tup] Dredd, Guigoz [tdown] Koala

SP00PY month!
Bullman Relationship Status: Abstaining

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