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KingofNightmares Kraken of the Sea
Kraken of the Sea
Aug 12th 2019 at 10:33:11 PM

[tdown] Max and Diasaster Demon

[tup] Everyone else

The present does not exist - It will just be the past once even a second passes
DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Relationship Status: In my bunk
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:01:02 AM

[tup] Capas and Strife

[tdown] Disaster Demon

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TheMadCr0w Sakoi! from Insignificant Little Blue Planet Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Sakoi!
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:21:52 AM

[tup] Capas and Strife.

Devil Summoner: Sid Davis, the Big Bad, is a foreign occult specialist and a sadistic agent of the Phantom Society sent to Hirasaka City with the task of triggering the apocalypse. A human Serial Killer with an enthusiastic desire to end all of mankind, Sid manipulates the boss of Yakuza into helping him and eventually leaves him to die, orchestrating an outbreak of demons for innocent cilivians to be massacred. Searching for a book that would allow him to summon the wrathful spirit of an ancient princess to destroy Japan and then the world, Sid murders both the protagonist and demon hunter Kyouji Kuzunoha, kidnapping the former's girlfriend, Kumiko Hatano, for being a descendant of the princess. Sealing Kumiko's soul inside an astral plane and threatening to torture her if she doesn't give him information, Sid promises the protagonist that he's willing to exchange Kumiko for the book and fulfills his part of the agreement by showing the protagonist that Kumiko is under a spiritual influence and will only follow the path to the sacred tomb where the ritual would take place anyway. Preparing to use Kumiko's body as a vessel for the princess and leave her soul to be consumed, Sid spends his last moments gloating about his success and how the protagonist will inevitably be defeated.

Edited by TheMadCr0w on Aug 13th 2019 at 5:39:24 AM

Our love can destroy this whole fucking world.
CloisterTheStupid from Oop North Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:48:22 AM

[tup] Voronov, Bathory, Dominic, Callas and Strife. [tdown] to the Disaster Demon, he's small fry on that show.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 2:59:16 AM

[tup] Voronov; Bathory; Wonder Woman duo.

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Aug 13th 2019 at 3:21:06 AM

[tup] Wonder Woman OC's, [tdown] to the others

Aug 13th 2019 at 3:21:43 AM

[tup] to Victorious Duo, Richard Wong, Dr. Voronov, Elizabeth Bathory, Dominic, Arabella Callas and Strife.

Aug 13th 2019 at 3:56:09 AM

Apologies for this post. I know it's very late. However, please can I raise a concern about the EP on Carmine from the RWBY novel After the Fall? I'm not convinced she meets the heinousness standard.

I know it's been mentioned that there's a problem with the fact that the SDC is implied to engage in slavery and it's been all but confirmed that is has engaged in torture. The story is just about to enter the Atlas arc, where the SDC is likely to be finally explored. As a result, the full extent of the SDC's notorious labour practices are yet to be revealed.

That reason is grounds for holding off on Carmine to see if the Atlas arc clarifies this subject.

However, one issue I have not seen discussed on this thread is the issue of trafficking within the canon show. It has been raised in the show.

The Branwen Tribe are thieves and murderers — ordinary bandits in that respect. However, they're led by a trained Huntress (Raven) who used to serve the Big Good until she learned his Awful Truth and abandoned him. They engage in typical bandit activities, raiding and killing villagers, then leaving the devastated places to be attacked by the Grimm (which are inevitably drawn to spikes in negativity).

When Weiss Schnee crashes in their territory (a Huntress student and one of the main characters), they capture her and imprison her at their camp. Weiss is told by the bandits that the Branwen Tribe doesn't normally engage in trafficking because it's not normally worth their while. In other words, they don't traffick because it's not practical, not because they have any objection to the concept of doing so. However, Weiss comes from such a wealthy Dust-controlling family that they decide trafficking her will be worth it. Their plan is to ransom her back to her father.

So, while we have had limited opportunity to encounter trafficking, it has been discussed in the show within a limited context. We know that the mother (Raven) of one of the main characters (Yang) has no moral qualms about people trafficking or hostage taking. She doesn't do it most of the time because of practical considerations, but will put practicality aside if she thinks the pay-off is worth it.

As a result, looking at the EP post, the only real difference between Carmine and the Branwen Tribe is that Carmine thinks she can benefit from regular trafficking while the Branwen Tribe thinks they can only occasionally benefit from it. In which case, the difference here is solely about opportunity.

So, on trafficking grounds, Carmine isn't standing out.

At best, I think she's a premature case and should be held until after we see how the Atlas Arc pans out. At worst, she's not an example at all.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 13th 2019 at 11:56:38 AM

It feels so good to have no signature at last.
Aug 13th 2019 at 3:56:38 AM

[tup]Callas and Strife
[tdown]Disaster Demon

PolarPhantom Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Aug 13th 2019 at 4:17:28 AM

[tup] Callous Strife.

I ain't touching the RWBY stuff, nor am I voting on the We Will Rock You guy, but Sky Cat? Please watch your tone when disagreeing with someone.

That being said, it's hard for me to say someone should be cut cause they're too "cool", especially since I don't even know the story. Like, a villain being played for spectacle rather than sadism as a cut reason is new to me.

Darkness rises and Light to meet it.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from A friend's futon Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 13th 2019 at 4:58:25 AM

I wasn't trying to be impolite, Polar. I was merely expressing my viewpoint. That said, I will make an attempt to watch my tone.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Aug 13th 2019 at 8:05:36 AM

I'm feeling a little light-headed.
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 5:14:38 AM

I'm fine with holding off on the RWBY duo for now.

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falcontalons from the Flask
Aug 13th 2019 at 5:42:32 AM

Yes to the Wonder Woman duo. Keep Khashoggi.

No to the Disaster Demon, and I'll switch to a no on the RWBY duo after reading Wyldchyld's points.

I shall drink to the Promised Day, and to your undying loyalty.
GeorgieEnkoom Emperor Enkoom Evulz II from Somewhere.
Emperor Enkoom Evulz II
Aug 13th 2019 at 5:53:16 AM

Well, here's Voronov's writeup:

Blake and Mortimer: Thinking that the current Sovietic leaders fail to follow Stalin's ideas, Dr. Voronov plans to take over USSR and kill its current leaders. Discovering the bacteria Z (which can kill adults in a day while children are immune to it), Voronov, against the government's orders, decides to use it against the West and the United States, having his agents sent children bearing the bacteria kiss celebrities, thus infecting and killing them. When Olrik fails to prevent Blake and Mortimer from attempting to foil Voronov's plan, Voronov sent Olrik to London retrieve or destroy the sample of the bacteria stolen by Blake and his allies. He also wants Olrik to frame the Kremlin, which, combined with their assassination attempt against Elizabeth II, would lead to a worldwide nuclear war, killing millions, something Voronov is fully aware of. When General Oufa tries to stop him, Voronov kills him with a drill. When learning that Grace, the infected girl who kissed the queen, had sickle-cell anemia (thus destroying the bacteria), Voronov sent Olrik to kidnap her. Loyal to none but his fanatic Stalinist ideals, Voronov is one of the comic's most depraved non-Jacobs villains.

Here's my Code Lyoko/Naruto fanfic.
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 5:54:31 AM

Please add to the Drafts. I'm guessing Voronov goes after the other dude?

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GeorgieEnkoom Emperor Enkoom Evulz II from Somewhere.
Emperor Enkoom Evulz II
Aug 13th 2019 at 6:36:14 AM

Yeah, just after Basam-Damdu but before Animated!Olrik.

Here's my Code Lyoko/Naruto fanfic.
Aug 13th 2019 at 6:47:37 AM

Okay, so not doing great. haven't caught up with the thread, but wanted to get these done at least:

  • St. Agatha: No longer a nun, the ruthless Mother Superior now runs her convent as a scam to lure in vulnerable, pregnant young women. The women are tortured physically and psychologically, gaslit and subjected to horrible conditioning techniques so the Mother can sell their babies to rich donors for a tidy profit. Women who raise too much a fuss and refuse to join her are subsequently murdered, along with anyone else who proves a problem, such as the heroine Mary's former boyfriend Jimmy.
  • Wanted: Dead or Alive: Introduced slitting a driver's throat, Malak Al Rahim is a sadistic terrorist who infiltrates the US for the pleasure of watching his work up close. Bombing a movie theater, Rahim proceeds to murder his way across LA, planning on more bombings so he can enjoy the sight of it. When hero Nick Randall's good friend Danny is on the case, Rahim murders Danny's girlfriend and has Danny tortured, shooting him in the feet for information before having his throat cut, intending on launching more explosives with sadistic relish.
  • Wolfenstein: Ubercommando Roderick Metze was a white supremacist who became a dentist for the thrill of torturing people legally. Happily joining the Nazis, Metze relished in a chance to lord over minorities, subjecting them to slavery and death. Taking an interest in sports, Metze abducted a number of athletes, torturing them in ghastly experiments to harvest their abilities for his own side. Metze also intends on activating a superweapon to annihilate the entire American Midwest, driven by his desire to rise ever higher in the ranks of the Reich.
  • X-men: Rory Campbell, in the dark future, became a monstrous cyborg known as Ahab. Responsible for the Hounds program, Ahab tortures mutants into his obedient dogs and uses them to track down and convert or murder other mutants. Ahab attempts to do this to the child Franklin Richard, even trying to convert his family, returning with his Hounds to also hunt down his arch-nemesis Rachel Summers and wipe out the X-men. Ahab later manages to incorporate psychic powers wiht a Hound, able to inject memories of horrific torture to shape his victims more efficiently, attempting to exterminate mutantkind and whoever else gets in his way.
  • James Bond: The madman Indigo is a reptilian-looking man running a base called New Eden. Abducting women from their families to serve as brainwashed concubines, Indigo experiments on them to eventually make them breeding stock for his new world, also converting innocents into degenerated neanderthal-like brutes to serve as muscle. Indigo plans to detonate nukes upon sea cradles, causing waves that crash down on all coasts, one hundred miles inland, wiping out 83 percent of all terrestrial life and leaving a new people he can rule himself.
  • Grimm's Fairy Tales: The Robber Bridegroom of the titular tale appears to be a charming suitor seeking the hand of the heroine in marriage. In truth, the Bridegroom is the head of a group of bandits and a cannibalistic serial killer who tricks the women into coming to his home whereupon they are murdered and carved up for food. When the heroine visits and hides, she witnesses a young captive dragged in and killed by her fiancee and his men, realizing the fate that would await her, with the Robber Bridegroom being a dark reminder that evil may hide beneath kind and trusted faces.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 7:36:45 AM

Feel better.

Should Ahab go to the main X-Men group or the other 616 characters?

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Aug 13th 2019 at 7:38:50 AM

Main with 616. He makes his debut in the Days of Future Present storyline

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 7:43:24 AM

Cool, so I guess he'll go before Apocalypse. I'll use Mad Scientist.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from A friend's futon Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 13th 2019 at 7:44:07 AM

Hope you feel better, Lighty.

Also, I think I'll abstain on the traffickers, due to new information.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Aug 13th 2019 at 10:47:24 AM

I'm feeling a little light-headed.
ElfenLiedFan90 Lunatic Moon Eyes from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Aug 13th 2019 at 8:20:59 AM

Just a random thing, I couldn't find anything about The King of the Lošolici on Google (The actual legend, not the EP)

Aug 13th 2019 at 8:21:57 AM

Here's my write-up for Seth.

Dinosaur King: Retold: Seth lacks any of his anime counterpart's nobler traits. Initially assistant to his brother Dr. Ancient and sister-in-law Dr. Cretacia in their plan to rescue the dinosaurs, Seth, jealous when the dinosaurs choose Ancient to lead them, allies with Dr. Z. Staging a mutiny against the Ancients, he orders Z to kill Cretacia whilst he murders Ancient, before attempting to murder the infant Rex - Seth's own nephew. In the present-day, after finding a card containing three Velociraptors, Seth puts them through agonising experiments, callously dismissing their suffering. When facing the D-Team, Seth tricks Max into putting an Alpha Metal sample in a furnace, before leaving the D-Team and several innocents to die. Void of empathy, Seth views his own allies as little better than pawns, using Torch as a guinea pig for a new Move Card, a process which will eventually kill him and when Helga discovers Seth's scheming and tries to stop him, Seth kills her. Facing the D-Team in Russia, Seth reveals his plan to create an army of hyper-evolved dinosaurs to conquer the world and subjugate humanity, before ordering Torch to murder them. Invading the D-Team's hometown, Seth holds its population hostage, spitefully ordering them executed, before attempting to kill Rex, despite the latter sparing his life. Void of loyalty or conscience, Seth cemented himself as the worst enemy the D-Team ever faced.

Edited by Nathanoraptor on Aug 13th 2019 at 3:28:14 PM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 8:28:41 AM

Georgie, please add Voronov to the Drafts.

Also, let me take care of the trees now:

  • The New Colossus:
    • B.J.'s greedy, racist father, Rip Blazkowicz, married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused her and B.J. out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife out for trying to defend their son,then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog. When America is conquered by the Nazis, B.J. betrays his Jewish neighbors and wife by selling them out, leading to their internment and death in concentration camps. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
    • The Freedom Chronicles Episode 1: The Adventures of Gunslinger Joe: ▄bercommander Roderick Metze was a white supremacist who became a dentist for the thrill of torturing people legally. Happily joining the Nazis, Metze relished in a chance to lord over minorities, subjecting them to slavery and death. Taking an interest in sports, Metze abducted a number of athletes, torturing them in ghastly experiments to harvest their abilities for his own side. Metze also intends on activating a superweapon to annihilate the entire American Midwest, driven by his desire to rise ever higher in the ranks of the Reich.

  • Grimms' Fairy Tales:
    • "The Robber Bridegroom" (KMH 040): The Robber Bridegroom himself appears to be a charming suitor seeking the hand of the heroine in marriage. In truth, the Bridegroom is the head of a group of bandits and a cannibalistic Serial Killer who tricks the women into coming to his home whereupon they are murdered and carved up for food. When the heroine visits and hides, she witnesses a young captive dragged in and killed by her fiancÚ and his men, realizing the fate that would await her, with the Robber Bridegroom being a dark reminder that evil may hide beneath kind and trusted faces.
    • "The Juniper Tree" (KMH 047): The evil stepmother, upon marrying the husband, grew to resent her stepson, knowing that he would inherit the family's wealth when he got older. Forming a plan, she convinces her stepson into looking into a chest for an apple, only to then decapitate him by slamming the lid onto his neck. The stepmother uses a bandage to reattach her stepson's head, and she manipulates her daughter, Marlinchen (or Marlene in some versions), into thinking that she killed her own brother. She then takes the body, cooks it into a stew, and she serves it to her unsuspecting husband. The story repeatedly makes it clear that the stepmother cared only for herself, and that she committed these actions out of greed, as well as a genuine hatred for her stepson.

Comic Books

  • Serpent's Tooth, by Doug Moench, Paul Gulacy, et al.: The madman Indigo is a reptilian-looking man running a base called New Eden. Abducting women from their families to serve as brainwashed concubines, Indigo experiments on them to eventually make them breeding stock for his new world, also converting innocents into degenerated neanderthal-like brutes to serve as muscle. Indigo plans to detonate nukes upon sea cradles, causing waves that crash down on all coasts, 100 miles inland, wiping out 83 percent of all terrestrial life and leaving a new people he can rule himself.
  • Dynamite Comics comic, by Warren Ellis
    • Slaven Kurjak, from the first arc, VARGR, seems to be a respected Serbian inventor, but in actuality is a former worker at concentration camps during the Kosovo War. Longing to replicate the series of contained tortures and experiments on an unprecedented scale, Kurjak starts peddling a flesh-eating drug throughout Britain as a test pool, resulting in countless lives being agonizingly lost to the drug. Once ousted, Kurjak slaughters the totality of his own staff and gloats to Bond as he leaves him to die in a decontamination chamber that his intention is to turn the entire world into a grand system of horrific torture and cruelty, where he and other like-minded sadists can slake their thirst for hurting people with full impunity.
    • Hammerhead Spinoff, by Andy Diggle & Luca Casalanguida: Victoria Hunt intends to usurp her father's company and take the railgun project Hammerhead for her own by having her father murdered. Secretly the underworld mastermind "Kraken", Victoria seduces Bond and arranges a nuke to be delivered to Yemen to be detonated there. When this fails, Victoria opts to nuke London to wipe the city and everyone in it off the map while blackmailing Britain's allies to fall behind her in a resurgent British Empire. Upon seeing the approach of British forces, Victoria has Hammerhead simply begin vaporizing all of them, intending to rule the world from the shadows in a brutal regime.

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