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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

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What is the Work

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Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#139301: Dec 9th 2018 at 9:28:35 AM

  • Denpa Teki Na Kanojo: Kiyoshi Kakura is a Serial Killer who has brutally beaten at least 13 people to death. Once a normal boy, Kiyoshi one day suddenly snapped and raped his neighbor and sister figure Sakuya, her mind breaking due to the horrible incident. After snapping once again later on and killing an innocent high school girl and bragging about it, he and Sakuya, who became obsessed with these deaths, began their killing spree during rainy nights, including the main character Juu's friend Fujishima. After being lured out by Sakuya through an anonymous text, Juu encounters Kiyoshi after his latest kill, where he claims his victims were all aliens and it's his duty to kill them all as a covert agent. After trying and failing to kill Juu, Kiyoshi was arrested for the killings and then killed himself while in prison.
  • Persona -trinity soul-: Keisuke Kotomatsubara was a scientist studying the Persona phenomenon. Having used his own daughter Ayane as a test subject until she committed suicide, Keisuke intends to revive her just to study the links between the Sea of Souls and the regular world. After Ayane's vengeful spirit ends up causing a disaster in Ayanagi City, Keisuke poses as an altruistic doctor, convinces Ryo Kanzato to sacrifice his heavily injured little sister to save his brother Jun, and uses the operation to experiment on Jun, intending to use him years later and to get revenge on the already-deceased Kanzato for leaving his investigation. Fusing with his own Persona and changing his name to Kujou Mareya, he creates the Marebito by inserting artificial Persona inside orphans, making them depending on drugs to survive and limiting their lives. Convincing them that stealing the Persona of other teenagers, in a brutal method known as the Reverse Cases for outsiders, would strengthening their Persona, Keisuke also creates an android to spread the Shadow Extraction Ritual in order to keep a suitable reserve of potential Persona users to attack. In the last episodes, Keisuke sacrifices all the remaining members of the Marebito to a clone of Ayane before becoming one with her. A ruthless man, Keisuke saw everyone—even his own children—as tools to be used in his quest for knowledge.
  • Time Bomb, by Jimmy Palmiotti, Justin Gray, Paul Gulacy, et al.: Gerhard Metzger is a Nazi scientist who seeks to avert Nazi Germany's defeat in World War II by any means necessary. Changing his name to David Page after Nazi Germany's fall, Metzger constructed the Time Bomb for the purpose of returning to the past during the final months of the war, hoping to ensure Nazi Germany's victory by deploying their ultimate superweapon, the Omega Bomb. When released, the bomb will wipe out all of humanity in a matter of days, leaving only the Nazis safely hidden underground to survive to reclaim the Earth. Metzger coldly uses prisoners as test subjects for the bomb's effects, and disregards even his own allies who won't make it to the underground shelter in time, dismissing them as merely a small price to pay for "the greater good".
  • Digimon Frontier (Episodes 40 & 41) fanfic Yang Yin: Ophanimon is reimagined as a despot wanting to alter the Digital World as she sees fit. To this end, she conspires with Seraphimon and sends him to raze the WereGarurumon village. Years later, she destroys Cherubimon's castle, reducing him to Lopmon. She later wipes Koji's memories, tricks him into thinking he doesn't have a brother, and brainwashes him into thinking she is his mother and obsessing over pleasing her. When they arrive, she, Takuya, and Koji defeat Lucemon and the Royal Knights, and Ophanimon absorbs Lucemon's Fractal Code to reach her strongest form. Ophanimon decides to dispose of Tommy, Zoe, and JP when they start to question her methods. When he is defeated, Ophanimon derides Koji for his failure and tries to destroy him, only for it to be thwarted by a Heroic Sacrifice from Koichi. In a rage, she tries to destroy the Spirits in a bid to rule not only the Digital World, but also the human world. Despite her claims of concern for the well being of the world, Ophanimon is nothing more than a sociopath with a blazing hatred for a world that was not up to her standards.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender fanfiction Foxfire: Hongqi, son of Quon, was the son of a fabulously wealthy merchant and never had to work for anything outside of his earthbending. He takes a Lower Ring woman as a mistress and starts a family with her in secret, but gets bored of his mistress and wants to marry a richer woman. Despite dumping the poor woman, Hongqi didn't want her to move from him, so he disfigures her by giving her a Glasgow Grin and destroys her emotionally by taking away her children, preventing her from seeing them, and dumps her back in the Lower Ring; the mistress commits suicide. After a while, Hongqi grew bored of his children and finally found a wealthy young bride to marry. Not wanting his future in-laws to find out about his bastard children, Hongqi murders his own toddler-aged children by trapping them in an active kiln and shutting it closed with earthbending, cremating the children alive.
  • 24 Hours to Live: Wetzler is the ruthless CEO of Red Mountain, and a man obsessed with "changing the face of warfare". In order to perfect a procedure where a dead person can be brought Back from the Dead, Wetzler routinely has innocent villagers kidnapped and subjected to cruel experiments, killing at least 70 men, women, and children in the name of science. When one of his men sells him out to Interpol, Wetzler orders him killed, and when Travis Conrad fails to kill the witness, Wetzler attempts to kill him as well. Instigating an attack that kills the witness, cops, and civilians alike, Wetzler has Interpol agent Lin's young son kidnapped, and when confronted by Conrad, he reveals that he was the one that had Conrad's wife and child murdered, as he believes "a man with no family has nothing to lose". A callous psychopath with no sense of loyalty to anyone, Wetzler admits his only code is doing whatever he wants.
  • Above The Law: Kurt Zagon is a corrupt CIA operative with a history of torture behind him. Introduced torturing two prisoners— one to death—who ran afoul of Zagon's opium dealings, and later established to have forced children to watch as he mutilated their mothers before torturing the children himself, Zagon plots to fund an invasion of Nicaragua to bolster his drug profits. To silence witnesses to his scheme, Zagon has an occupied church bombed and tortures a priest who spoke out against him, and plans to assassinate a senator who tried to detain him prior. Before carrying out the assassination, Zagon cheerfully tortures hero Nico Toscani for no other reason than the fun of it, as he admits.
  • All Hallows' Eve: Art is a sadistic Monster Clown who finds humor in torture and murder. He's introduced in the first segment, The 9th Circle, drugging Casey and taking her underground, where she's abducted by a coven of witches who tie her down to an altar to be raped by the Devil. In the third segment, Terrifier, he viciously murders his way through a number of victims, all the while relentlessly pursuing a young woman who saw him dismembering the corpse of the gas station attendant. When he finally catches up with her, he shoots her would-be rescuer and takes her back to his lair where he and mutilates her while she's unconscious, cutting off her arms and legs, removing her breasts and carving misogynistic terms into her torso. He spends most of the wraparound segment stalking and tormenting Sarah and the children, particularly Tia, which all culminates in him killing the two children.
  • Big Bad Wolf: Mitch Toblat is a werewolf who can retain his mind and talk, but he is also a vicious, sadistic sociopath. At the start of the film, Mitch kills Derek Crowley's father in front of Derek's uncle Charlie, before marrying Derek's mother and emotionally abusing Derek for years. When Derek and his friends decide to go on a trip to Mitch's personal cabin, Mitch interrupts their fun as a werewolf by killing all but Derek and his Love Interest Samantha; in said massacre, he rapes and kills a virgin in front of her boyfriend, taunts said boyfriend, and fatally castrates him. Later, he blames Derek for bringing his friends to the cabin in the first place. When Derek, Sam and Charlie are investigating Mitch and looking for DNA evidence, he catches Sam in his room and forces her to perform oral sex on him. When he discovers they were investigating him, Mitch abducts, tortures and kills Charlie, telling him it's his own fault for not minding his business. After that, he abducts Sam and takes her to his cabin, intending to lure Derek to him. The plan is sidetracked when another group of teenagers come to investigate the previous massacre, but he kills them as well and rapes a girl in their group. He then attempts to kill Derek and Sam in a fight, and just before he is killed, he bites Derek so that the latter will be cursed.
  • Contracted duology: Brett "BJ" Jaffe is a misanthropic Serial Rapist and a carrier of the zombie virus who seeks to bring about the end of humanity. He seeks out women and violates them, infecting them with the disease and causing them to deteriorate both mentally and physically over the course of three days, after which point they reanimate, and he lets them spread the plague further. BJ is introduced in the first movie giving a woman a spiked drink and raping her, leading to her descent into madness and zombification. Later, he's shown to have claimed many more victims. In Phase II, he infects a prostitute and chain her up in his basement. BJ stalks a witness to one of his rapes, threatening to bring harm to his family and to him. When the witness is hospitalized, BJ straps a bomb to his own chest and tracks him down, threatening to blow up the hospital, and gunning down a few cops, patients, and doctors in the process.
  • Jennifer's Body: Nikolai Wolf is the leader of the Satan-worshipping indie band Low Shoulder. While performing in a bar one night, he prompts a fire to magically break out, letting pretty much everyone burn to death. Singling out Jennifer Check and believing her to be a virgin, Nikolai and his band abduct her and decide to use her in a ritual sacrifice, resulting in Nikolai savagely stabbing her supposedly to death. Jennifer survives because she's not a virgin, but becoming demonically possessed because of it. She then murders and feeds off of three guys in order to survive. Nikolai also uses a lie about saving people from the bar tragedy and at least one of Jennifer's killings to become famous and reap the rewards from it. She also murders Chip Dove while trying to feed off of him before being killed by Anita "Needy" Lesnicki, who is confined to a mental ward because she won't be able to convince anyone of what Nikolai did to Jennifer.
  • Mercury Rising: Lt. Colonel Nicholas Kudrow is an NSA superior who oversaw the creation of the military code Mercury, which protects overseas American undercover agents. His ego is hurt when he finds out that 9-year-old autistic boy Simon Lynch can read it easily and later calling him "one of Nature's mistakes," claims that he needs to die to protect National Security. Kudrow sends Peter Burrell to Simon's house and has his parents Martin and Jenny killed. Burrell continues to hunt Simon and Art Jeffries, the FBI agent protecting him, on Kudrow's behalf. When Dean Crandell tries to inform Jeffries about what's going on, he's shot and killed, and when Leo Pedranski tries to inform the Senate Oversight Committee, he's killed too. Kudrow eventually tries to personally kill Simon himself, has Burrell shoot at FBI agents when they show up to try to stop him, and tries to kill Jeffries when he interferes again. Despite its purpose, Kudrow's only rooting interest in the code is proven to be that he gets all the credit for how effective it is and would take the blame for its failure as well.
  • Warriors of the Wasteland: One, leader of the Templars, and his right-hand Shadow, believe only in the destruction of any remaining human beings in the post-apocalyptic future. Regularly leading their forces to massacre innocent colonies, Shadow also takes great pleasure in making his victims' deaths as painful as possible. When their old comrade Scorpion resurfaces protecting innocent colonies, the pair instantly target him, and after capturing and torturing Scorpion, Shadow assists One in raping him before having him left for dead. The two then attempt to massacre the colony Scorpion was protecting, with Shadow gleefully gunning down every innocent person he sees before Scorpion manages to stop them.
  • The Dresden Files: Harry Dresden has had to face some pretty nasty villains over his long career. These are the worst:
    • Blood Rites: Lord Raith, aka the White King, is one of the cruelest White Court vampires, as well as one of Harry's most personal enemies. A brutal authoritarian, Raith murders his sons to avoid them becoming a threat to his power, and rapes and feeds off his daughters, reducing them to sex slaves. Feeding off of the feeling of lust from his victims to sustain his power, Raith only stops this when he kills Margret Le Fey Dresden—Harry's mother—and she uses her death curse to prevent him from continuing. When Raith's servant Arturo begins operating independently of Raith's porn monopoly, Raith furiously responds by slaughtering Arturo's innocent employees, only stopping to hunt Harry to lift Margert's death curse. Attacking Harry and his half-brother and Raith's own son, Thomas, Raith tries to kill them both to vanquish any threat to his power while trying to rape his own daughter, Inari, and turn her into yet another mentally-broken slave for himself.
    • Dead Beat & Ghost Story: Capiocorpus, aka the Corpsetaker, is a former student and Bastard Understudy of the evil necromancer Heinrich Kemmler. Prolonging her own life by stealing the bodies of others before torturing her victims to death, the Corpsetaker also delights in causing mental anguish, bringing devastation and destruction to the minds of the people she tortures. Along with the other heirs of Kemmler, the Corpsetaker plans to consume the souls of thousands in a ritual as a bid to become a god. Killed by Harry, the Corpsetaker returns as the malevolent "Grey Ghost" and enslaves other spirits to help her return to life. Torturing the ectomancer Mortimer Linderquist, the Corpsetaker has his mind fed to the evil Wraiths—a painful process that destroys the sanity of the victim and something she relishes in doing—hoping to break him and use him to control the spirit population of the city she is in. Allying with the Fomor, the Corpsetaker plans to crush the resistance to them in Chicago and allow them to run amok and cause mass death and destruction while she tries to return to life. Devouring the souls of dozens of spirits, the Corpsetaker attempts to regain corporeal form and tries to steal the body of one of Harry's friends to continue her immortal life of cruelty. Defined by a lifelong path of sadism, the Corpsetaker showed time and again why she was one of Harry's most vicious enemies.
    • Turn Coat: "Shagnasty" is a Skin Walker or Naagloshii sent by the Black Council to disrupt the investigation into the titular traitor, and delights in causing pain in his victims, torturing them with sadistic glee. Attacking the Raith mansion, he massacres several of the personnel there and maims and cripples several others, even breaking off and eating the fingers of Lara Raith's sisters just for fun. Capturing Thomas, he has him tortured by having him hung up and than ripping strips of skin off him, piece by piece. When Thomas's vampiric Healing ability is about to give out, "Shagnasty" than gives him a random, innocent woman—as young as 16-—and, since by this point, Thomas has completely lost control of his Horror Hunger, he winds up raping them to death. "Shagnasty" than repeats the process over a dozen times simply to satisfy his sadistic whims, proving himself one of Harry's most sadistic and deadly foes.
    • Changes: Kukulcan, aka the Red King, is the founder of the Red Court vampires, and the creator of a system of slavery and oppression that spans thousands of years. The Red King presides over a court that enslaves mortals as Cannon Fodder, slaves and food, with a special emphasis placed on feeding upon children, as well as Human Sacrifice to his own glory. When war begins between the wizard White Council and the Red Court, the Red King shows that he had already been prepared for a protracted and brutal war by launching violent attacks, including poison gas, with civilians being collateral damage at best, and food for his soldiers at worst. Playing the part of a blood-addicted junkie, the Red King manipulates his courtiers, pitting them against his enemies and one another, and shows no compunction in sending his own daughter to her death when she opposes him. The misery of the Red King's actions makes South America into a living hell for civilians and those who dare to oppose the vampires, and is so horrible a formerly loyal servant is driven to Knight Templar levels to destroy the Red Court at any cost. One of the most ancient, powerful and evil vampires in existence, the Red King is finally brought down by a sacrificial spell he intended for Harry Dresden's entire family line—one he was going to initiate by sacrificing Harry's 8-year-old daughter personally on the altar.
  • Gone:
    • Drake Merwin is a monstrous fourteen-year-old who managed to earn the hatred and fear of everyone in the FAYZ. A psychopath even before the series began, he was sent to Coates Academy for shooting a boy with an air rifle, and was diagnosed by staff as a sadist. A few days after all the adults disappeared, Drake essentially became a Psycho for Hire, first serving Caine Soren in his efforts to take over Perdido Beach, then switching his allegiance over to the Gaiaphage after it helped regrow his amputated arm into a whip-like weapon. Drake's many crimes include preparing to feed a daycare full of little kids and infants to mutant coyotes if they resisted him; threatening to cause a nuclear meltdown if Sam didn't allow Drake to torture him; commanding an army of mutant bugs to massacre Perdido Beach; and whipping and slave-driving a pregnant girl across a desert. Drake was also a virulent misogynist, who victim-blamed his mother for her abuse at his stepfather's hands, insults every girl who crosses his path, and expresses an intent to torture, rape and murder Astrid, Diana, and even the Gaiaphage after it stole a female body as its host. Drake's goal wasn't power, it was pain. He admitted that he tortured and murdered his fellow children because he enjoyed it, because it made him feel powerful, and he believed that despite all the diagnoses psychiatrists had tried to give him, the word that best summed him up was "evil".
    • Villain: Dillon Poe is a FAYZ survivor and a would-be comedian who grew envious of the fact that he never got powers. He sees an opportunity when he buys a sample of the meteorite the Gaiaphage came from off the black market and gives himself the power of a Compelling Voice. After ending up in a drunk tank, he uses his power to make an inmate he got into a fight with bite his own tongue off and then makes the guards escort him out of jail. He later goes to a casino and uses a microphone to make the patrons attack each other to entertain both himself and the Dark Watchers. After seeing the potential for conquest his power gives him, his opening act is starting a violent riot in Las Vegas, which he starts by controlling the attendees of a basketball game, gathers a few more after posting a YouTube video, and attempts to use national television when all social media is cut off. He takes a group of cheerleaders to be his personal bodyguards and harem, the latter of which disgusts one of his slaves enough to nearly break control. With Las Vegas now a war zone under his control, the military intervenes, but he manages to control the commanding officer to order a missile assault on the city. To ensure his own safety, he drenches the streets of Vegas in gasoline and has a sparky windup toy active to set his slaves on fire if anybody attacks him, which works after Peaks intervenes. His actions lead to the confirmed deaths of 409 people and thousands more left unaccounted for, all just so he can get a good laugh.
  • Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids: While the characters featured are rarely anything more than assholes or brats, we have this duo who go the extra mile in their badness.
    • Prince Egor, from "The Black Knight", is an evil knight known for his evil deeds in battle. When he hears that its king is dead, he invades the country of Ruritania, steals the crown, and subjects its people to endless misery. He steals all the wealth and possessions, forces everyone to worship him, kills all the animals and burns all the crops, leaving his subjects with nothing to eat and beheads anyone who speaks out against him. Not even children are safe, as they are put in service of the Black Knight.
    • Fearsome Tales for Fiendish Kids: Although he wasn't the central character of the story, Farmer Tregowan, from "The Chipper Chums Go Scrumping", is a truly nasty piece of work. When he finds the titular Chipper Chums stealing apples from a tree that he uses to make cider, he yells at them for it and guns down their dog when he tries to protect his owners. When they say they have eaten the apples, Farmer Tregowan reveals he laced the apples with pesticide and decides to just squeeze the juice out of them; when the children are paralyzed by the pesticide, the cruel farmer crushes them with his cider press and removes the juice from their stomachs.
  • Hurog:
    • High King Jakoven Tallven is a vicious tyrant who locks his brother Kellen in a hellish asylum, only not killing him because of a prophecy's warning. Jakoven proceeds to expand the Five Kingdoms, killing all in his path, while taking young boys as hostages and sex slaves for his own pleasure. Having the hero Ward tortured, Jakoven also sends Ward's Love Interest Tisala to be tortured and raped by his men, before intending on bleeding Ward to use a superweapon, which he and his right-hand-man Jade Eyes test on an innocent village, intending on wiping out all before him until he stands supreme.
    • Dragon Blood: The aforementioned Jade Eyes is a wicked mage and Jakoven's partner in evil. Capturing Ward, Jade Eyes has him locked in the aforementioned asylum and has him drugged, viciously tortured and sexually assaulted. Jakoven and Jade Eyes later kidnap a young cousin of Ward's and have him drugged with clear intent to molest him, as well as bled to empower their superweapon. After his master's defeat, Jade Eyes reveals he intends to revive the dragons used to create said superweapon to build an empire for himself, despite them intending to destroy the Five Kingdoms upon revival, callous to the carnage created as long as he rules.
  • Tentyrian Legacy: Stavros is the leader of the Dark Coven. Once one of the rulers of the Tentyrians, Stavros looked down upon humanity, viewing them as inferior to Tentyrians and wishing to rule them. Stavros had two of the other rulers assassinated and helped spark a fire which killed dozens, and later threatened to burn down the various covens of the other rulers while threatening to harm their children should they not relinquish control to him—but intending to kill them anyway even if they comply. After the people rebel, Stavros's forces enact a purge which leads to the near-genocide of the Tentyrians. Stavros and the Dark Coven than begin a campaign of terror throughout the world, playing humanity against each other from the shadows and causing conflicts to become far worse and than reaping the profits afterwards. Stavros also uses his blood to transform humans into bloodthirsty monsters that serve him, raising an army in the thousands. Planning on culling humanity, Stavros attempts to corrupt Arianna—one of the last Tentyrians—to his side, and even fatally tortured one of her friends to find information on her whereabouts, intending to rule supreme for all of eternity.
  • The Last Kingdom: Sverri, from season 2, is an Icelandic slaver notorious for working and torturing his slaves to death. Having his slaves row to Iceland for days without food, Sverri forces them to fight over an apple he's already taken a bite out of. After recapturing Uhtred and Halig after their failed escape attempt, Sverri has the latter bound to the prow of his ship and forces Uhtred and the other slaves to row the roaring seas, slowly killing Halig.
  • Poldark: Reverend Osborne "Ossie" Whitworth is secretly a lecherous creature who will stop at nothing to satisfy his urgings. Teaming up with George Warleggan to coerce Morwenna Chenowyth into marrying him to spite Drake in lieu of hanging him, he wastes no time getting it on with her in brutal fashion. Eventually, they have a child, John Conan, but he continues to rape her despite Dr. Enys warning him it could kill her eventually, proving to be a hypocrite when the next season he claims to be concerned about John Conan's life. Deprived for a while of satisfaction from Morwenna, Reverend Whitworth bides his time by pursuing an adulterous affair with her sister, Rowella, and helping George bankrupt Pascoe, one of the few remaining moral bankers in Cornwall, by extracting a confession of embezzlement from Pascoe's dying partner, Nathaniel Pearce, and casually cursing both Rowella and Nat the instant their usefulness ends, and is all too ready to resume his abuse of Morwenna at full force.
  • Dr. Tristan Adams, from season 1's "Dagger of the Mind", is a psychologist and a director of a Federation Penal Colony on Tantalus V. Though regarded as a brilliant psychologist who revolutionized Federation penal colonies, Adams eventually became corrupt and used a device called a Neural Neutralizer to turn the staff and inmates on the colony into brainwashed zombies. Anyone who resists the Neural Neutralizer suffers from extreme pain. When Adams used it on his assistant Dr. Simon Van Gelder, Van Gelder went insane and escaped to the Enterprise. Van Gelder is willing to cripple the Enterprise rather than return to Tantalus. After Kirk decides to investigate, Adams seems friendly at first, but eventually decides to use the Neural Neutralizer on Kirk, mentally assaulting Kirk in order to break him down and make him a zombie.
  • Daikatana: Kage Mishima is an evil CEO and the tyrant of a dystopian future. Discovering the Daikatana with his partner and its ability to time travel, Kage killed his partner and traveled back to 2030 AD, where he claimed the cure for a pandemic and sold it at a high price, leaving many people dead, while also making San Francisco a martial law town where gangs roamed the streets causing havoc. Becoming the iron-fisted ruler of the world, he forces his guards to go through brutal training, creates burgers out of human flesh, and regularly has his prisoners tortured and beaten to death, and uses his time travel abilities to assassinate members of the Ebihara clan. When Hiro Miyamoto refuses to swear his subservience to him, Kage tries to clash both of their Daikatanas together, knowing full well that doing so will destroy the entire universe.
  • Eternal Twilight:
    • Supreme Azael, no longer caring for his fellow Magi, seeks to purge all humans and "weak" Magi in order to create a world for evil Blood Magi. Having spent centuries killing any potential successor to his position as Black Magic Supreme, Azael has his Council of Blood commit crimes all over the world in order to provoke the empire into enacting genocide on all Magi, all to kill off his current successor and any Magi who could oppose him. After identifying Minerva as his successor, Azael has her friend Miranda brainwashed to steal the dangerous COSMOS relic and threatens to torture Miranda if the heroes don't deliver Minerva to him. When the heroes confront Azael, he sadistically kills Miranda in front of them, traumatizing Minerva and causing her to lose control of her powers. After being cornered, Azael tricks the party into entering his soul, intending for his soul to collapse on the party the moment they kill him.
    • Empress Verona, although an Unwitting Pawn to Azael, exploits anti-Magi sentiment for her own cruel ambitions. She begins by stoking racism among her fanatically loyal army, convincing them that all Magi are dangerous Blood Magic users who need to be exterminated for humanity's safety. Ignoring the distinction between normal Magi and the Council of Blood, Verona has her army kill countless innocent Magi, occupy and oppress several human settlements, and raze any town caught coexisting with Magi. When a soldier shows mercy to a Magi, Verona makes an example of his disobedience by forcing his daughter to watch his execution. Despite claiming to protect humanity from evil magic, Verona secretly sacrifices the strongest Magi to implant their powers into her own forces, revealing that her real goal is to monopolize magic for military power.
  • Ninja Gaiden Black: Murai stands out as a truly horrible individual. Once part of the Hayabusa Clan, Murai defected from the group and plotted their demise. Being a neutral ally of the Hayabusas, Murai used his position and knowledge to sell them out to Emperor Vigoor under the guise of the Dark Disciple while luring away his nephew, Ryu Hayabusa, during the scheduled invasion. With the Hayabusa Clan decimated and their ancient artifact, the Dragon Blade, in the hands a vengeful Ryu, Murai sends him out to hunt after Vigoor to get revenge. This is actualy so Ryu would increase the power of the the Dragon Blade through the blood of Emperor Vigoor's forces. He and his servant Gamov then kept watch and helped increase the number of demons so it would fuel the Dragon Blade, despite the collateral damage it would leave. After Emperor Vigoor is killed by Ryu as Murai expected, Murai reveals himself as the true villain and steals the sword away from Ryu, and backstabs his loyal servant Gamov. He then tries to kill off Ryu and intends to take control of the world with the sword. Manipulative and traitorous, Murai would betray and slaughter anyone for power.
  • Sniper Assassin series:
    • Mr. Johnson is the CEO of FFG Corp., a textile manufacturing front for a drug operation. When Johnson catches wind of the fact that Shawn Davidson has been recruited to take down his organization, he has infiltrators mislead Shawn's agency before having Shawn's wife murdered. In order to protect himself, and gain the upper hand on Shawn, Johnson infiltrates Shawn's agency under a false identity, and when he is captured by Shawn, claims he was forced to help Mr. Johnson to protect his family, when in fact he paid someone to stalk a random family. Subsequently, Johnson, still pretending to be his own subordinate, manipulates Shawn into killing some of his subordinates, including some who are disloyal to him, even tricking Shawn into torturing a subordinate who reveals Johnson's ruse after Johnson escapes. Johnson leaves a note taunting Shawn, mockingly congratulating the latter for helping him.
    • Mr. J, real given name Jacob, is Johnson's subordinate turned successor, having exploited Johnson's death in order to take over FFG. J is introduced off screen, revealing that, while Johnson did order Mrs. Davidson's murder, J actually carried it out. When Shawn's agency decides to try and take down FFG again, he has Agent Charlie captured as bait, letting his own men die at Shawn's hands while he and some of his other subordinates kill Shawn's supervisor and friend Ben, amongst other people at Shawn's agency. When Shawn and the agency continue to try and take FFG down, he leaves his men to be slaughtered in order to lay a trap for Shawn. When the trap fails, J bides his time, having his men try to kill Shawn, and new agency recruit Marco. Later, J taunts Shawn when the latter shows up at his mansion, before throwing a grenade and escaping, while his men try to neutralize law enforcement. J attempts to escape on foot, exploiting the civilian crowd running in the opposite direction as him, before—despite being a Bad Boss—expecting his subordinate to save him.
  • Highlander: The Animated Series: Lord Kortan, refusing to take the pledge the other Immortals took After the End, declared himself the de facto winner of the Game, and decreed that he was now entitled to all of the world's knowledge and power. After killing Connor MacLeod—the only Immortal willing to break the oath to challenge him—Kortan conquered and enslaved most of the planet, ruling unopposed for 700 years. When Quentin MacLeod's immortality activated after Kortan's slavers murdered him and his mother, Kortan set out to slay this new Highlander through any means necessary. Kortan's worst acts included firing an atomic bomb at Quentin's homeland; feeding dissidents to mutant ants; lobotomizing people to make disposable "human keys" to his armory; regularly executing his own followers for failure and outliving their usefulness; deploying them as suicide bombers against a city; and inciting hatred of Quentin by founding a cult in his name, one that enslaved kidnapped children after staging their sacrifice. In the final episode, Kortan destroyed whole towns with salvaged missiles, and threatened further bombardments unless Quentin confronted him at midnight. Even though the deadline was met, Kortan ordered that more rockets be launched anyway, laughing, "Why stop at MacLeod when we can crush them all?"
  • Dream Walker: Lord Darkan, the ruler of Cardigal, is a vicious lizard who relishes in dominating those in and around his city. With an army of lizards and spiders at his command, Darkan and his forces seek out strong warriors around the world, kidnapping and imprisoning them before forcing them to fight in the Kingdom of Fighters tournaments. Those who refuse to fight are either killed or cajoled into fighting after Darkan threatens to murder their families. When Darkan learns that Koa is a Dream Walker with extraordinary power, he and his army storm Koa's village and force his father to deliver Koa into his custody. After Koa initially refuses to join the Kingdom of Fighters tournament and threatens to kill Darkan, Darkan convinces him to fight by smugly telling Koa that should anything happen to him, his soldiers will slaughter all of the prisoners in Cardigal as well as Koa's entire village.
  • Rambo: The Force of Freedom: General Warhawk, the leader of S.A.V.A.G.E. (Specialist-Administrators of Vengeance, Anarchy and Global Extortion), is a power-hungry despot bent on world domination. He tries to blow up the Boulder Dam as a diversion to rob Las Vegas; demands to be paid one million dollars and blows up the shipping on the Suez Canal when his demands are not met; tries to start a war between two neighboring countries by stealing a white rhino; seizes control of the Warton Missile Complex and launches an attack from the missile base to all of North America when his demands aren't met; along with his troops hijacks a supertanker, planning to cause an ecological disaster unless his demands for a warship are met; and sends Mad Dog to hijack a space shuttle called Xenon with plans to blow up satellites unless his demands are met. Not even children are safe from his wrath, as he has tried to have young peace activists killed.
  • Spicy City: Corbin, from the series finale "Raven's Revenge", is the CEO of AlternaCeuticals, the company that created Raven. A psychopathic eugenicist, Corbin wants to wipe out all those he's deemed genetically inferior and aberrant, and plans on doing it with a virus that he tests on Raven and carnival freaks. When symptoms begin to manifest in the carriers, Corbin has the crowded carnival bombed under the pretense of containing an outbreak before instructing his men to Leave No Witnesses as they move in to capture Raven. When confronted, Corbin implies that he was responsible for the death of Raven's mother, and rants about how he is going to eliminate all of the "mutants and freaks" with his plague, which he also intends to profit off of thanks to his "good fiscal policy" of Withholding the Cure to diseases in favor of overpriced treatments that are developed as slowly as possible.
  • Osmosis Jones: Thrax is a deadly virus who is obsessed with infamy and making his name known in the medical books. To this end, Thrax infiltrates human after human and slowly kills them through an agonizing fever—one of his victims a little girl who "didn't like to wash her hands"—which comes with the consequence of killing both the human and every living organism inside of them. Upon invading the body of Francis "Frank" DiTorre, Thrax introduces himself by burning a cell unfortunate enough to cross him from the inside out whilst humming, and cuts clean through a local crime boss to cow his flunkies into serving him. Thrax sets about murdering whomever comes in his way and burns his own flunkies to death after they suggest incubating, ultimately nearly succeeding in dooming Frank and gloating to hero Osmosis Jones that he intends on breaking his record on Frank's young daughter Shane.
  • Fabian Cortez: He is the leader of the defunct Upstarts, a group of mutants that hunted and killed other mutants for points and bragging rights in Selene's Upstarts competition. In his first outing, he puts together the Acolytes and tries to sway Magneto back towards taking an antagonistic stance against humanity. When Magneto is wounded, Cortez uses his own powers to make him dependent on his treatment under the pretense he was helping him. Cortez's machinations lead to the U.S. and Russia destroying Asteroid M with a plasma cannon, which resulted the deaths of his entire first group of Acolytes, including his own sister. When Magneto returns and Cortez loses his top spot in the competition, he goes to Genosha and inspire the mutants there to rise up against their oppressive human government, causing a bloody civil war. At the same time, he kidnaps Magneto's infant granddaughter so he can use her as a Human Shield against the X-Men, the Avengers, and Exodus in an attempt to kill as many of the Avengers as possible. When Magneto becomes the ruler of Genosha and learns the hidden technology that can restore his power levels, Cortez betrays him by amping up ex-Acolytes to send against him. A supremacist and a backstabber at its finest, Cortez committed his despicable crimes in order to score points in a competition.
Highlander: The Animated Series
  • Lord Kortan, refusing to take the pledge the other Immortals took After the End, declared himself the de facto winner of the Game, and decreed that he was now entitled to all of the world's knowledge and power. After killing Connor MacLeod—the only Immortal willing to break the oath to challenge him—Kortan conquered and enslaved most of the planet, ruling unopposed for 700 years. When Quentin MacLeod's immortality activated after Kortan's slavers murdered him and his mother, Kortan set out to slay this new Highlander through any means necessary. Kortan's worst acts included firing an atomic bomb at Quentin's homeland; feeding dissidents to mutant ants; lobotomizing people to make disposable "human keys" to his armory; regularly executing his own followers for failure and outliving their usefulness; deploying them as suicide bombers against a city; and inciting hatred of Quentin by founding a cult in his name, one that enslaved kidnapped children after staging their sacrifice. In the final episode, Kortan destroyed whole towns with salvaged missiles, and threatened further bombardments unless Quentin confronted him at midnight. Even though the deadline was met, Kortan ordered that more rockets be launched anyway, laughing, "Why stop at MacLeod when we can crush them all?"

Edited by ACW on Dec 9th 2018 at 12:45:15 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#139302: Dec 9th 2018 at 10:00:04 AM

I've just realised something.

For the Dresden files examples. We have two separate Vampire Monarch 's who've tried (and in Raith's case succeeded) to kill a person nammed Margaret Dresden.

What a weird coincidence ?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii Since: Apr, 2018
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
#139303: Dec 9th 2018 at 10:06:12 AM

Intersting indeed Miraculous

Things are really about to get Fun around here
Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#139304: Dec 9th 2018 at 10:50:12 AM

So no ones got second opinions on my previous question ? Aight then.

Also I learned my local theatres once again releasing movies a day early. So I guess o have to rearrange my movie going schedule.

Edited by Beast on Dec 9th 2018 at 12:54:38 PM

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
TheMadCr0w (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
#139305: Dec 9th 2018 at 11:47:47 AM

Here goes Walker.

  • Babysitter Massacre: Mr. Walker is a spree killer who believes love gives him an excuse to commit atrocities. Possessing an unhealthy attraction towards Angela since he was young, Walker kidnaps and murders his own daughter to get closer to her. Years later, Walker begins torturing and killing those in his path to have Angela for himself; using various instruments to make his victims suffer, including boiling water and toxic gas. After massacring an entire room of partygoers, Walker takes Angela and her two friends, Arlene and Lucky, to their basement, informing them that they must bludgeon Lucky to death with a hammer if they want to survive. After Arlene takes Lucky's life, Walker strangles her anyway and cuts Angela's ankles to incapacitate her. When Angela stabs him in the stomach, Walker decides to burn himself with her after realizing that he was going to die.

43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#139306: Dec 9th 2018 at 1:49:25 PM

If there's a version of Pinhead we haven't looked at sure but tbh I'd rather not hear another attempt at Slenderman and you didn't even sound convinced there's a point in giving a new shot at him in your original post.

11111001011 11111001011 from Peachtree City, GA Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Abstaining
11111001011
#139307: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:06:20 PM

I guess Leland keeps

Anyway, with 8 [tup], 3 [tdown] (one isn't quite definite), and 2 abstains, and here's my writeup for Malicia:

The ClueFinders: Malicia from The Mystery of the Missing Amulet is a Wicked Witch who travels to a planet called Millennia and tries to force its inhabitants, the Doldreks and the Sorrens, to give her their amulet. When they refuse, she encases most of them in ice or stone and turns others into her minions. In the present day, she kidnaps Santiago and Leslie, disguises herself as a princess named Malveera, and tricks Joni and Owen into getting the amulet for her. When they bring it, Malicia reveals her true self and steals what she thinks is the amulet (but is actually a necklace Joni got from a flea market) from them. Upon realizing she's been tricked, Malicia decides to keep Santiago and Leslie, in the belief that Joni and Owen will give her the amulet. When our heroes arrive, Malicia has one of her minions grab the amulet, declares her plan to wipe out all life on Millennia and Earth, and attempts to zap the quartet with a ray from the amulet. Completely depraved, and willing to kill an entire species just to obtain eternal life, Malicia manages to be a very dark and chilling villain for an Edutainment Game.

Help me!
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#139308: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:14:30 PM

11, please add to the Drafts when you can.

Found this in the Drafts.

  • The Rescuers Down Under: Percival C. McLeach, despite knowing the animals he hunts are sentient, delights himself in "tearing off their hides." While searching for the rare eagle Marahute, McLeach kidnaps the young Cody and forces his compliance by trapping him in an animal cage and recklessly tossing knives at him. Gloating to have previously captured Marahute's mate, McLeach aims to destroy its eggs to increase the potential value. McLeach then entertains himself whilst disposing of Cody by lowering him into the crocodile-filled water. When his fun was cut short, McLeach tries to shoot the rope holding Cody.

Works for me. Only one that needs work now is Frollo, and I know Scraggle said he'll rewrite that.

Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#139309: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:14:40 PM

[up][up] Yeah Pinead was brought up three times in the past due to his characterization in Bloodine and all three of those times I was pretty vocal about giving him a "No" due to the interquels of the movie - and a bit of bias as I felt that a Pinhead as a CM kind of ruins what makes him compelling (then again we do have the Hell Priest so I should probably eat my words). But after looking at that film again, I might be opening to revisiting him, it's just I'd feel like a bit of a hypocrite if I did so myself.

That and it kind of goes against my "Three strikes you're out" mindset and I still have issues with the interquels even if I didn't. While I have enough to put two of them in the Canon Discontinuity, I'd still have Inferno, Hellseeker, Deader and Hellworld to take into account, and I don't consdier Fanon Discontinuity kosher.

Edited by Beast on Dec 9th 2018 at 4:15:13 AM

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
hegelvonaxel Since: Feb, 2018
#139310: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:27:55 PM

Would anyone else give his opinion about Leland.

43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#139311: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:35:36 PM

@ Beast, If new info really is being brought forth, then sure, anyone can go for it.

@ Hegel, If she really is worth keeping then that writeup needs to step up its game. "I wish all hispanics would die" is not attempted genocide if she doesn't take any action towards making it happen and searching her name I just see the rewrite being done and a reference that her being involved in two deaths is worse than someone else just killing one person. Are we missing something in her entry? If not I'd vouch cut.

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#139312: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:38:01 PM

Axe Leland. A notable white supremacist or not, we've had other familial abusers and other murderers with far wider body counts in the show that make her stick out comparatively less.

papyru30 from Colorado for summer break Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#139313: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:48:06 PM

So here's something that I just thought of, Was Gannondorf ever listed as a CM? This thread started before skyward sword came out so I'm curious if we ever had him listed.

Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#139314: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:49:36 PM

Cut her.

Also shouldn't the Cold Case examples match up the the rest of CSI ? I'll admit I don't watch those shows so I ain't too familiar with the standard.

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
#139315: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:50:18 PM

Agreed.[tdown]Leland.

Why so serious?
Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#139316: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:52:02 PM

[up][up] If I recall correct, yes, but I'm not necessarily sure he stuck around long enough even back then before Skyward drove the final nail into his qualification coffin.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#139317: Dec 9th 2018 at 2:56:05 PM

I wouldn't be opposed to cutting Leland. I mean, compared to the other entries (serial pedophile, serial rapist, domestic abuser who kills his own young daughter, and Serial Killer who basically uses Buried Alive), she's nothing special.

Incidentally, if anyone's curious, there are probably more candidates from Cold Case.

Slight rewrite for "Smith":

  • "John Smith", real name unknown, from season 5's "The Road", is possibly the most horrific Serial Killer seen on the show. Disturbed since childhood, he described the sight of watching a woman drown while doing nothing to save her as the most beautiful thing he'd ever seen, and dedicated his adult life to replicating that "beauty". Abducting women who were perfectly happy with their lives, Smith brought them to special cellars where he sealed them off, watching as they went insane from isolation before finally leaving them there to starve.

Beast: Interesting question. I'm not sure if it's like a JAG-NCIS case where we allow Lynch or not. Though if we do use that standard, I think they're okay: Freely is a pedophile, Larkin is a Serial Rapist which surprisingly we don't have too many of, "Smith"'s method is unique even if his body count isn't the highest, and Mulvaney...I could actually go either way on that.

The real question is the Without a Trace entries: The conman from season 6 seems like an easy enough keep (child slaver? yeah. Easy keep.), but I'm not sure on the other dude.

Actually, looking at the script, I'm not exactly clear how many victims he has.

So, my thoughts: Keep the Cold Case entries except for Leland (Mulvaney whatever), and cut both Without a Trace entries and let someone propose them if they want.

Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to cutting the Klinefelds (or even Laura). They only hsve 4 victims total and 2 more intended ones, while I know Laura was also grandfathered in. I know Otis, Darius, Python, and the Level 26 guy were all effortposted and approved.

Edited by ACW on Dec 9th 2018 at 6:19:26 AM

Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#139318: Dec 9th 2018 at 3:14:21 PM

43110: Well actually, regarding new information I'm trying to rewatch Bloodline but my vcr is giving me shit at the moment. Even then I feel like I have to go on a big Hellraiser binge.

Edited by Beast on Dec 9th 2018 at 5:17:22 AM

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#139319: Dec 9th 2018 at 3:55:14 PM

The Klinefelds and Laura, while grandfathered in, were approved by the thread.

I can't recall the name of the con artist/slaver; would definitely welcome a full EP on him.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Dec 9th 2018 at 5:59:49 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#139320: Dec 9th 2018 at 4:03:34 PM

[up] They were? Even knowing the standard of the show (actually, Laura I don't mind; I vaguely remember her being a piece of work)? Huh, alright then.

Maybe I'll watch the WAT ep (looks like his name is Isaac Garang BTW). What about the other guy?

Though tomorrow I'll request cutting Leland and I'll submit the tweaked Smith entry; the other entries on the page I'll just leave them all for now.

Edited by ACW on Dec 9th 2018 at 7:07:08 AM

SpaceProtagonist (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
#139321: Dec 9th 2018 at 4:29:01 PM

I'm confused. Who's that monster character on the image for Cutey Honey?

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#139322: Dec 9th 2018 at 4:36:37 PM

Tarantula Claw, from Cutie Honey a Go Go.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
G-Editor The 47th President Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#139325: Dec 9th 2018 at 5:56:21 PM

Yeah, cut Leland.


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