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Haden.

@miraculous Yeah I know. His first CM? He also played Marcus Bohem in The Invisible, but I’m pretty sure he doesn’t count.

Haden is also smug and cold when he’s interrogated and it’s not until Carrie threatens to cut off his finger that he says where the canisters he’s being asked about are.

Future, did you see it again recently? If the only time you saw it was in theaters in 2009 I'll admit I'm a bit wary.

Colm.

So we're all in agreement to cut Morgan Landsdale right. He's the only that everyone is in agreement to remove

Yeah... I'm fine with Landsale getting cut. Then again, I don't know the franchise so...

Also, what did Alexia do again?

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Nov 20th 2018 at 10:31:52 PM

@ACW I’m renting it this week, but I’m pretty sure everything I wrote is accurate to what happened in the movie. Again, I was doing research too.

That last bit I wrote about Haden was something I didn’t put in the EP because I wasn’t sure how important it was at first. The plane may have also been stationery, but again, I don’t think it matters.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Nov 20th 2018 at 7:49:59 AM

Do you mean Alexia Ashford. Hers her cm entry:

• The Darkside Chronicles: Alexia Ashford no longer has love for her brother as a part of her personality, the way it was in Code Veronica, and her evil is cranked up a few notches higher. A Child Prodigy who joined the Umbrella Corporation at the age of twelve, Alexia was also an entitled sadist with a serious god complex. She aided her brother in murdering and experimenting on their father, tortured a classmate to death (and recorded the session) for being almost as smart as she was, and eventually injected herself with the T-Veronica virus, which she planned to use to Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence. Reawakened from cryogenic sleep in her twenties, Alexia kills her brother for not waking her up on time, transforms Claire Redfield's Love Interest, Steve Burnside, into a monster and forces him to fight her to the death, and tries repeatedly to kill Chris and Claire for no other reason then their presence at her facility. She reveals that her plan is to infect the world with the T-Veronica virus, enslaving most of humanity to her will. When asked why, Alexia just gloats about how, as a superior specimen of humanity, she deserves to be Queen.

Yeah I'm still for cutting Morgan.

Alright... I thought she was on the chopping block like Landsale but after reading her entry again, I'm fine with her staying.

Wait no. She's one of the worst villains in the series.

The other guy who was on the chopping block but we decided to keep is Vincent Goldman

Yeah, Vincent specifically experimenting on kids was enough.

How bad's the T-Veronica virus vs. what Lansdale was gonna do?

Here's a slightly re-potholed Alexia.

• The Darkside Chronicles: Alexia Ashford no longer has love for her brother as a part of her personality, the way it was in Code: Veronica, and her evil is cranked up a few notches higher. A Child Prodigy who joined the Umbrella Corporation at the age of twelve, Alexia was also an entitled sadist with a serious god complex. She aided her brother in murdering and experimenting on their father, tortured a classmate to death (and recorded the session) for being almost as smart as she was, and eventually injected herself with the T-Veronica virus, which she planned to use to Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence. Reawakened from cryogenic sleep in her twenties, Alexia kills her brother for not waking her up on time, transforms Claire Redfield's Love Interest, Steve Burnside, into a monster and forces him to fight her to the death, and tries repeatedly to kill Chris and Claire for no other reason than their presence is at her facility. She reveals that her plan is to infect the world with the T-Veronica virus, enslaving most of humanity to her will. When asked why, Alexia just gloats about how, as a superior specimen of humanity, she deserves to be queen.

Edited by ACW on Nov 20th 2018 at 10:51:31 AM

That game is an Alternative Continuity. It's not part of the main timeline, so she doesn't need to compare to any other villains from there. Plus she's roughly on par with Saddler and Wesker. So heinous standard isn't an issue there either if we do comoare to the main timeline .

Oh, well that's helpful.

So I guess Simmons will replace Lansdale's entry.

I kinda find it funny that Brian Irons and Lucas Baker (the low tier of the franchise) were two of the ones everyone was fine with keeping. I think it shows how somone whoose at the low end of the pile can still be an utter nightmare.

Yeah, when the almost (all?) Big Bad-s are plague starting mass murderers with apocalyptic ambitions, then the "best chance" to get into the List is being Low-Tier and extremely disgusting.

Kinda like Wyald in Berserk, dude is small potatoes compared to the literally apocalyptic ambitions of Griffith and Ganishka, but he "makes up" for it by being a Living Rape-machine that is always raping someone or trying to.

I wonder something tho. I am thinking in stuff as a documental about the 20-th century. What happens if two villains commit genocide...against separate groups. Like, One kills around 1 million because he don't want them inside his country and other kills between 11 and 17 millions because he genuinely want exterminate said ethnic groups from the whole world. Both can qualify? And what about the one with "only" thousands but was almost completely succesful at exterminating his hated ethnic group?

...I was reading too much about genocides in the 20-th century. I mean, digging up the pool of evil is just..interesting.

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re: Zeta Gundam rewrites.

Yazan is good. Still emphatizing that he is the basis of many of our Gundam Blood Knight.

But Bask-Om' entry really don't need mention the torture. It was never implied in the series and was only show in side-materials. Ambar was always complaining about it, but point is, for someone seeing Zeta, then Bask is just a Spacenoid-hating dick with no Freudian Excuse to subvert.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Nov 20th 2018 at 11:26:28 AM

speaking of lucas and irons... Yeah, I think I'm fine if we swap Wesker quote with Lucas' which is fine by me as the quote feels shorter.

Honestly just shorten it to this:

Uroboros is on the eve of its appearance. Six billion cries of agony will birth a new balance!

It gets the point across better and isnt a super long convo

Y'know what? I think I'm gonna back Kazuya on this. Even in the side materials I'm pretty sure Bask's backstory is literally just a one off "By the way..." line, so no qualms with that being chopped. As I've said before, a lot of these small potatoes "excuse that doesn't excuse" things tend to read a lot as an awkward "If you think this means they don't count... they still do."

Dude, that's hilarious you just suggested that, I was looking at the long-ass quote earlier and was thinking "Why don't we just use that nice chunk?"

Edited by 43110 on Nov 20th 2018 at 11:41:03 AM

I'm fine with using that one bit of the quote. Here's Simmons:

• Resident Evil 6: Derek Clifford Simmons is the National Security Advisor to President Adam Benford and the one behind the nuclear destruction of Raccoon City. Serving as the Arc Villain for Leon's campaign, Simmons uses the C-Virus to cause the zombie outbreak in Tall Oaks, the place where the President plans to reveal the truth about Raccoon City and the Bio Organic Weapons trade to the world, causing 70,000 casualties. He also forces Secret Service Agent Helena Harper to personally infect the President by holding her sister hostage, threatening to turn her into a B.O.W.; he does so anyway, and frames Helena and Leon for his crimes. Also apart of said B.O.W. trades, he oversees the creation of said C-Virus by subjecting Sherry Birkin to constant experimentation. Simmons also has an obsessive lust for Ada Wong, and when she rejected him, he would use the C-Virus to create a "perfect Ada Wong", experimenting on 12,235 women, with only one, Carla Radames, surviving, causing her Start of Darkness. Finally confronted by Leon and Helena, Simmons tries to justify his actions, only to be called out on his excuses, revealing Simmons to be nothing more than a perverted madman willing to cause needless death just to hold on to his position in power.

For Om, does that still make him a General Ripper, or "merely" an Insane Admiral now? Here's the re-done entry:

• Captain Bask Om, the second-in-command of the Titans, is first seen beating the tar out of one of his officers for opposing his order—an order which risked civilian lives. Later, Bask has Kamille Bidan's mother, Hilda, put in a capsule in outer space without a spacesuit in order to retrieve the Gundams stolen by the AEUG, and orders one of his men to shoot at it, claiming the capsule contains a bomb, leading to her heart-wrenching death. He subsequently orders two massive colony gassings. He is also the man responsible for the Titans' brutal treatment of the colonies in the first place, favoring the seizure and murder of hostages to get people to go along with his plans, and being a major proponent of the use of Cyber-Newtypes, teenage super soldiers created through Mind Rape and a cocktail of Psycho Serum.

Edited by ACW on Nov 20th 2018 at 11:45:22 AM

As I told you in PM, 100% a General Ripper, Bask despises anything not born on Earth and goes out of his way to kill any spacenoids, be they combatants or civs.

His excuse not justifying what he does would be why he's a CM... Also, can you clarify that Yazan's expies are also CMs? He's at least tied with Gihren for number of monsters who use him as a template and that's important to note.

Edited by 43110 on Nov 20th 2018 at 12:17:22 PM

Wow, that's even worse now that he doesn't even have the excuse.

I mean, That Freudian Excuse would be legit highly sympathetic it was actually real. Is basically a WW 2-Chinese being cruel to the Imperial Japaneses, is evil, but hardly unsympathetic...unless the dude was already a scumbag before getting genocided and tortured.

And yeah, Yazan is the Fountain of Expies for many of the Gundam evil (and usually Badass Normal) Sociopathic Soldier. Heck, even Luciano Bradly from Code Geass.

I'm going to finish Trace today, I have one sure candidate...One Mad Scientist Father to surpass Shou Tucker. This would be nice, I really wanted list the asshole for a week.

Mmmm. There only one that is not a CM, and that is Rezin Schnyder from CCA. She isn't a CM due to lack of screentime to commit genuine crimes. Sadly, I would loved get a official Female CM Yazan Expy

Edited by KazuyaProta on Nov 20th 2018 at 12:22:10 PM

As for the expies, I'm not sure how many are CMs and how many aren't; that's why I just changed it to "With a series of expies in the franchise, Yazan is a blight upon his world, more of a feral predator than a man."

3 I think. If ive counted right. Rakan Dahkaran, Ali Al-Saachez and Desil Galette.

Yeah Yazan is a very prolific cm. Like Takeshi Asakura, he left enough of an impression to be responible for the creation of tons of badguys in the franchise just as despicable.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 20th 2018 at 9:26:40 AM