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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#128501: Sep 2nd 2018 at 2:25:58 AM

[tup] Seran, Madd Bull Trio, Griffith, and Loki Master.

Edited by emperors on Sep 2nd 2018 at 2:25:59 AM

Welcome to the world of greatest media!
hegelvonaxel Since: Feb, 2018
#128502: Sep 2nd 2018 at 3:49:12 AM

[tup] Everyone minus Cheryl.

Made of Evil automaticly disqualify character, yet some MOE characters, like Dark Marik, qualify.

I think that we need to clarify when made of evil character qualify and when not.

Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#128503: Sep 2nd 2018 at 4:09:35 AM

Reverted the Junko Enoshima entry. Don't make changes without the approval of the thread. If it doesn't get acknowledged, bring it up again, or remind people of the proposal.

As for proposed re-write, not a fan. Too many potholes and the details for how she blackmailed Juzo feels padded out.

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#128504: Sep 2nd 2018 at 5:04:33 AM

So uhhh... I got a question for you guys.

Forgive me if I say this but recently I finished an anime called Konosuba. I just wanted to ask: Is the villain being forced into a cult considered a legitimate Freudian Excuse? Well, there is a villain in question that was being forced into joining a cult. However, due to him being annoyed by that, he decides to poisoning a hot-spring so that it could crippled the town's economy (Given the town is the base of the cult after all) and the poison is kind of... Deadly needless to say. But even if I proposed him, I doubt he qualified for the trope because of the comedic nature that this series had (Although, there is one villain in question that worth checking out other than this guy) and probably he isn't taken seriously that much so yeah... I'm not sure if it's safe to propose him or not.

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Sep 2nd 2018 at 7:04:27 PM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#128505: Sep 2nd 2018 at 5:19:52 AM

Lighty: Okay if your entries go next week? Also, does the Crocodile Precinct one go after the current entry? And should the new one go before or after Torbalan?

PP: Same question to you?

We already got 44 or 45, and I wanna tweak the other Ratchet ones.

Edited by ACW on Sep 2nd 2018 at 9:01:26 AM

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#128506: Sep 2nd 2018 at 5:23:44 AM

[tup]Saran, Song!Griffith, and Callahan

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#128507: Sep 2nd 2018 at 5:35:51 AM

Enthusiastic yes to music!Griffith. And late yeas to all of Lighty's manga ones.

Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#128508: Sep 2nd 2018 at 5:45:09 AM

[tup] Saren and Callahan. Also [tup] Griffith.

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#128509: Sep 2nd 2018 at 6:01:32 AM

  • Date A Live: Sir Isaac Ray Pelham Westcott is the absolutely monstrous Director of Deus.Ex.Machina Industries. A sadomasochistic Mage who discovered his love of pain and despair when his village was slaughtered by humans, Westcott uses "revenge" against humanity as a veil to mask his true motive to simply cause destruction. Torturing and experimenting on hundreds of women and children to turn them into his enslaved "Wizards", Westcott summoned the First Spirit years ago, wiping out 150 million humans in the process, and begins hunting down every Spirit to torture and drive them insane so as to steal their Sephira Crystals. Upon obtaining a Sephira by torturing Nia for five years then forcing all the pain from those years on her at once, Westcott ups his game in slaughtering civilians—including children; sending entire fleets of his own troops on suicide missions in between maiming and killing them on a whim; and dragging entire cities into bloody conflicts. Westcott proudly proclaims every last one of his crimes as being nothing but a hobby to him, and when beaten after first trying to rewrite reality to one where he reigns supreme over a tortured humanity, Westcott tries to drag everyone, his own Dragon included, down to death with him, spending his final moments in glee at his former "friends" mourning his demise. Made all the worse by the fact that he could feel sorrow and love, yet choosing to use this in bringing himself ever more pleasure, Isaac Westcott subverts every potentially redeeming trait he possessed and racked up one of the longest rapsheets in Light Novel history, making his mark as a depraved monster who chose to commit evil acts for no other reason than the joy that being wicked brought to him.
  • Fantastic Children: Georca is the brother of the King of Greecia. Desiring to take Greecia for himself, Georca sends his men to bomb the king's quarters, which ended up killing the princess. Overhearing the scientists' conversation regarding the princess being turned into a living weapon, Georca kidnaps one of the scientists and then lures the princess by using her mother as a bait. He then proceeds to mentally torture the princess, resulting in her uncontrollable powers being activated, in turn causing Greecia's destruction. When the Princess calms down after using her power, Georca then proceeds to attack the castle in order to retrieve the princess. It was also revealed that he is the one behind his son's Start of Darkness by beating his mother in front of him.
  • Hydra, by Tetsuo Hara: Minister Usami is a corrupt Japanese official plotting to sell out his nation as long as he can benefit. Usami blackmails the hero Yomi into working for him by threatening Yomi's beloved sister Mamiko, while having Yomi assassinate his rivals. Usami's corruption runs even deeper, and it is revealed he intends to use biological weapons to wipe out half of Japan's population, starting with Tokyo, to make it easier for foreign powers to take over.
  • Metroid: These two Space Pirates have done their best to be the worst of the worst.
    • Metroid (Manga): Ridley, Arch-Enemy of Samus Aran, is the monstrous, dragon-like military commander and security chief of the Space Pirates, and is the most brutal, vicious and monstrous member of the organization. He is introduced attacking Samus Aran's home colony, and immediately gave orders to his men to slaughter everything in sight and enjoy it to the fullest. When the three-year-old Samus tried to befriend him, Ridley attempted to murder her, killing her mother when she tried to save her daughter. After Samus's father sacrificed himself to destroy Ridley's ship, nearly killing him, Ridley survived by eating the corpse of Samus's mother to heal himself, a fact he later uses to mock Samus. A veteran raider, Ridley has slaughtered dozens of innocent colonies and was the one responsible for annihilating the last of the benevolent Chozo race who had rescued and raised the child Samus. Driven by a relentless and mutual hatred of Samus and his desire to destroy and kill whatever he can sink his claws into, Ridley is one of the most feared beings in the universe and a sadist of the highest order.
    • Metroid Prime: Episode of Aether: In this manga adaptation of Metroid Prime 2, "Boss", the unnamed Space Pirate leader, raids the space ship Crest and tries, alongside his crew, to hijack it, killing a civilian who happened to be there. When the Crest Captain begs "Boss" for mercy, the Space Pirate overhears a worried child calming his sister down, saying that help is on the way. "Boss" torments them as much as possible before trying to murder them, as well as everyone else on board the ship, laughing at the older child trying to protect his younger sibling. When Samus comes to the rescue, "Boss" holds one of the children and the Crest Captain hostage and when Samus aims at him, he throws the hostages, chasing after them with the intent to slice their heads off.
  • Noir: Shao-Li, a assassin for the Triads, is infamous for her poisonous methods and remorseless attitude towards her kills, receiving the nickname "The Cold-Blooded Killer". Introduced after one of her assassinations, Shao-Li is called by her forces to help deal with the duo assassin Noir and the Soldats due to their presence in Hong Kong. Tracking them down by using an informant, she leads a charge to kill the two hired killers and eliminate the informant, since he's no longer of any use to them. When Noir was able to fight off the attackers, she retreats and returns to his employers only to kill them off herself so she could realign with the Soldats and save herself. Approaching them, she was immediately rejected due to her history of backstabbing, and in retaliation Shao-Li tries to kill their representative. Even to the ruthless and unscrupulous Soldats, Shao-Li was seen as nothing more but a deadly poison for anyone and everyone.
  • The Rising Of The Shield Hero: Medea Pideth Machina is a sadistic goddess and the ultimate manipulator behind all of the villains in the story. Desiring ultimate power above all, Medea begins destroying 8 worlds to harness the energy of their inhabitants, all while using physical copies of herself to sow the seeds of distrust and chaos throughout the 8 worlds, simply because she enjoys hurting innocents. To compose herself an army, Medea revives and brainwashes the corpses of those killed through her machinations, with the psychopathic Tact being just one of her servants; Medea also has no care for this army, slaughtering them all when they fail her solely to hear them scream. In the end, Medea reveals her plans to extinguish all life in the universe one world at a time simply to boost her power level, before flying into a rage when beaten and simply trying to take down millions with her as she dies. A self-proclaimed sadist who committed her crimes for nothing but more power and always with glee, Medea was the root of every single evil in the story, something she proudly boasted of at every turn.
  • Marcus, from season 1's "In the Dark", is hired by Spike to extract information from Angel on the whereabouts of the Gem of Amarra, a magical ring that gives Vampires complete invulnerability from harm and their usual weaknesses, such as sunlight. A man obsessed with the "art" of torture, Marcus is rumored to have inspired some of the more favored and gruesome techniques used through history. Serenely, playing Mozart in the background, Marcus falls into a rhythm of torturing Angel, impaling him with hot pokers then asking Angel what he truly wants. When Angel refuses to answer, the cycle begins again, each time with Marcus hoping to truly break Angel and lay his soul bare. He also burns Angel with sunlight and forces him to suspend himself in the air with his chains in order to avoid being incinerated. Marcus is also a pedophile who specializes in feeding on and molesting children, and, after Marcus betrays Spike and takes the ring for himself, the first thing he does with his newfound invulnerability is attempt to murder a group of girl scouts, only being stopped due to the timely arrival of Angel.
  • Billy Blim, from season 3's "Billy", despite appearing to be a normal young man, is a half-demon with the ability to incite violent misogyny in other men through touch or contact with his bodily fluids, causing them to become extremely violent towards anyone female. Despite claiming to have never harmed a woman himself, he deliberately uses his powers on unsuspecting men, resulting in a number of women being badly injured and killed. A vile misogynist himself, Billy believes that all men hate women as much as he does, and that all victims of his abilities deserve what they get. After being freed from a hell dimension by Lilah's machinations, Billy thanks her by using his powers on her rival, Gavin, causing him to savagely beat Lilah. Later allowing himself to be arrested, Billy causes a male cop to assault his female partner in order to escape. Billy goes on to blackmail his cousin into arranging for Billy to flee the country by threatening to use his powers at a crowded party. Confronted by Cordelia and Angel, Billy first tries to use his powers to force Angel to kill Cordelia, then beats down Angel himself when this fails. Essentially a one-man Hate Plague, Billy is a smug sadist driven by a pathological hatred for women and the sheer amusement he derives from the carnage he causes.
  • Matthias Pavayne, also known as "The Reaper", from season 5's "Hell Bound", is a malevolent ghost haunting the L.A. office of Wolfram & Hart. A Mad Doctor and Serial Killer in life, Pavayne performed fatal surgeries on his victims before moving on to dismembering them in ritualistic killings for over twenty years. Sacrificed by Wolfram & Hart to deconsecrate the holy ground on which they were to build their Los Angeles office (a task which required a particularly evil soul), Pavayne's spirit endured as a ghost. To avoid his fate of being sent to hell, Pavayne tortures the souls of other people who died in the building, condemning them to hell in his place. Exploiting the High Turnover Rate at Wolfram & Hart, Pavayne spends over two hundred years cheating damnation and reveling in his power over others, with Wolfram & Hart being completely devoid of other ghosts by the time Pavayne's presence is uncovered. When Spike becomes a ghost bound to Wolfram & Hart, Pavayne targets him as his latest victim, tormenting Spike with visions of Pavayne's past victims. When Angel and his team bring in a psychic to help Spike, Pavayne gruesomely murders her to keep from being detected. After revealing himself to Spike, Pavayne physically and psychologically tortures him before trying to throw him into hell. When Fred tries to make Spike corporeal again to save him, Pavayne starts strangling her, intending to force Spike to choose between saving himself and letting her die, or saving Fred and allowing Pavayne to send him to hell. A terrifying and sadistic psychopath, Pavayne condemns countless souls to hell in order to save himself, and takes a deep pleasure in doing so.
  • Borrasca: Sheriff Graham Walker seems like a caring family man and protective town sheriff at first, but later reveals himself to be a twisted and ruthless crime boss who runs a Human Trafficking empire. Walker moves his family to Drisking to escape scrutiny for pimping out teenage girls, and to get involved, and take part in, Drisking's conspiracy of mass murder, abduction, rape and impregnation of numerous women; notably having his own young daughter Whitney kidnapped to be made his Sex Slave and brood mare, raping her dozens of times. When his son Sam learns of the operation, Walker has him framed for the battery of his friend Kyle. When Whitney herself dies, Walker murders his wife to have a new daughter in hopes of making a replacement sex slave. Walker also usurps the Prescott control of the operation, withholding the town's benefits of the operation for himself. When Sam and his friend Kimber (who Walker also raped) confront Walker, he beats Sam and intends to mold Sam into his heir and make Kimber a new sex slave, before attempting to kill them, telling Sam he could always have another son to replace him.
  • Brute Force (1947): Captain Munsey is a cruel sadist who psychologically and physically tortures the prisoners under his care, subjecting them to beatings and more to obtain information. When one man refuses to talk due to parole, Munsey manipulates another prisoner into suicide to have parole hearings revoked. When a riot becomes inevitable, Munsey has no hesitation in trying to simply gun down as many prisoners as he can, refusing to even recognize any of the men as human beings.
  • Cage (1989) & Cage II: The Arena of Death (1994): Tin Lum Yin is the money-hungry organizer of an illegal fighting ring who kills people who can't pay their debts. When two debtors bring in Billy, a giant Vietnam vet with brain damage that left him with the mental age of a child, Yin forces him into 3 fights in a row, hoping that he will die in the cage. When Billy's friend Scott wins the third match in his place, rather than let them go as promised, Yin orders Billy and his friends, as well as a man he just lost 1 million dollars to, killed. In the sequel, having escaped death, he has his agents kidnap Billy and try to kill Scott, gunning down two innocent women in the process. Yin makes Billy his new champion and pretends to take care of him in the wake of Scott's (supposed) death, while actually giving Billy injections to make him more aggressive. His response to learning that said injections will likely kill Billy soon is to raise the cost to view the fights. When Scott and the police show up he runs off, killing his henchman Dr. Wo when he tries to steal his money, then shooting and nearly killing Billy and his Love Interest Mi Lo.
  • Future Force (1989): Becker is twice as evil as his slimy boss Jason Adams, serving as the chief-of-security for C.O.P.S. and his boss's brutish enforcer. Becker maintains the corruption of the system while participating in the brutal execution of rivals—such as a man he taunts before leaving him to be crushed in a car compactor and the henchmen of another mobster he murders—while personally taking care of any threats, arranging for the execution of a reporter, Marion, and Tucker, the cop defending her. Along the way, Becker tortures Marion's friend to death with a knife; cuts open the throat of Becker's one other friend on the force; and personally murders Tucker's disabled partner out of spite, trying to torture Tucker to death himself while laughing he's "killed women stronger than you!"
  • John Carpenter's Vampires: The master vampire, Jan Valek, is a sadistic predator with a merciless taste for blood and mass murder, boasting how much he has enjoyed the carnage and how many people he has fed on for centuries. Anyone who stands in his way is either killed or used to achieve many of his dark schemes. At a motel, he initiates a brutal, relentless, blood-drenched massacre at the motel of almost all of Jack Crow's team and the prostitutes they hired for the night. He and his followers slaughter and butcher a whole group of harmless monks, with Valek personally beheading one even after he tells him the whereabouts of the Berzier Cross. His goal is to becoming truly immortal so that he may extend his reign of terror forever.
  • Mystics in Bali (1981 Film): The Queen of Leak at first appeared as a helpful mentor towards the two protagonists, Catherine and Mahendra, by teaching them the Black Magic known as Leak. However, it was revealed that she has her own agenda. After Catherine masters the Leak magic, the Queen then mind-controls her head and orders her to murder an innocent pregnant woman by sucking out her baby from the womb. The Queen then mind-controls Catherine again to took more innocent lives so that she could become even younger and stronger. When Mahendra's uncle interferes with her affairs, the Queen then electrocutes him and slits his throat in the ensuing fight.
  • Summer of '84 (2018): The Cape May Slayer, true identity Wayne Mackey, is a Serial Killer who preys on young boys, wracking up at least 15 murders over several years. When young hero Davey Armstrong investigates on his own, he discovers photos of the Slayer's victims, including one that indicates the Slayer is targeting him as well. He then discovers a mutilated corpse in the Slayer's bathtub and an injured, emaciated boy the Slayer was saving for later. The Slayer later abducts Davey and his friend Woody, slitting the latter's throat and injuring Davey, vowing he will one day return for revenge and until that day, he wants Davey to live in horrible fear of when it will be and what Mackey will do to him.
  • TAU: Thomas Alexander "Alex" Upton is a technology mogul seeking to create the perfect smart home AI by incorporating behaviors from real live test subjects. Murdering his victims after finishing the testing, Alex has already claimed eleven lives by the start of the film, all just to score a billion-dollar contract. When his current testee, Julia, tries to negotiate for better conditions, Alex is enraged, reminding her he can have her killed at any time. His prototype AI, the titular TAU, doesn't fare much better, with Alex responding to any perceived failure or treachery by painfully erasing its memories. A chillingly cold Serial Killer, Alex is a man devoid of emotion save obsession with his success and glory.
  • Timebomb (1991): Colonel Taylor is the head of Operation Bluebird, taking twenty young adults to expose them to horrific mental torture and brainwashing to overwrite their personalities and turn them into killers. With most of the subjects dying, Taylor uses the seven who remain as his personal assassins, killing anyone he deems a threat and countless innocents alongside them. When one amnesiac assassin Taylor had left for dead years ago, Eddie, threatens his operation, Taylor orders him killed with no compunction about dozens of innocents being caught up in the way, even gunning down numerous innocents in a crowd himself in order to get to Eddie in the climax.
  • The aforementioned Donald Pierce is the psychopathic cyborg in charge of the Reavers, Transigen's military might. As the head of security for Transigen, Pierce took part in the butchering and vivisecting of many mutants for their raw materials, also assisting in the X-23 experiments alongside Zander Rice, entailing the forcible impregnation of women with mutant genes, murdering them after they give birth, then raising the resulting children as tortured lab rats to be turned into submissive slaves and assassins in adulthood. When the children began rebelling and even killing themselves to escape, Pierce was tasked with putting them all down, and proceeded to execute several of the children. After many of the kids escape with the help of the nurses, Pierce tracks down head nurse Gabriela, brutally tortures and murders her, and continues hunting the children—torturing and killing anyone in his way in the process. After he and Rice unleash the vicious X-24 onto a small family to slaughter them all, Pierce lays a trap for the escaped children, rounding them up for a mass execution while beating one into submission before releasing X-24 one last time to kill Logan. Motivated only by power, cruelty, and xenophobia, Donald Pierce is easily one of the most depraved villains Logan has faced, mutant or not.
  • Dread Nation, by Justina Ireland: The true power behind Summerland, Preacher Snyder, is a bigoted pastor hiding behind shallow piousness. A former slaveholder himself, Snyder exploits cheap labor from the colored populace of Summerland with any infractions he can think of ruthlessly punished by his son, the town's sheriff, with torture and abuse wide under his rule. Beyond this, Snyder throws away the lives of countless of Summerland's colored populace by forcing them to patrol the walls fending off encroaching shambles, utterly uncaring about the massive death tolls and always justifying himself and his cruel rule by claiming to only serve God's chosen order. Lecherous, sexist, racist, and a proud hypocrite above all else, Snyder ignores that his sanctimony will eventually doom the entire town and everyone in it to the hordes outside.
  • Graceling: King Leck, though at first seeming to be a kind and noble ruler, is quickly revealed to be the most monstrous character in the story. Blessed with the Grace of Compelling Voice at birth, Leck abused and tortured everyone around him, from small animals to his own father before murdering the man. Eventually taking control of the kingdom of Monsea after murdering all of the current royalty, Leck uses his ability to kidnap, torture, and experiment on hundreds of women and little girls, raping and mutilating each of them for weeks on end before reviving them solely to do it all over again, even forcing his own horrified servants to do it while he watches. Regularly abusing and raping his wife before murdering her, Leck attempts to raise his own daughter to be his "perfect heir" by torturing and possibly even raping her. Sadistic beyond belief and viewing his various atrocities as "art" that should be honored, King Leck was the worst this fantasy series had to offer, horrifying and repulsing all those who knew his true nature.
  • Ogre's Lament: The Story of Don Luis, by Stuart G. Yates: Manfred Kepel is a former soldier driven by his greed. After helping fellow soldiers massacre monks in a monastery, Manfred and the others looted the monastery of its riches. Not content with his share, Manfred went looking for the rest of the riches, and eventually discovered the location in Riodelgado. Posing as baker Señor Garcia, Manfred blackmailed the village's mayor into helping him find the treasure or else he'd murder all the children in the village. In order to satisfy his bloodlust and to prevent others from finding the treasure, Manfred occasionally kidnapped and murdered villagers, including children, and had the mayor lay all of the blame on a monster that doesn't exist. He later killed Luis Sanchez's father to steal his treasure, along with other individuals who nearly exposed Manfred's secret to Luis. After most of the soldiers who knew about the treasure are killed, Manfred threatens to kidnap Luis's mother and sister and recover the information from them, before attempting to kill Luis and the mayor when Luis discovers his true identity.
  • Seize the Night: New Tales of Vampiric Terror: Claudio Mendoza, from "Direct Report", by Leigh Perry, is a vampiric Serial Rapist who preys on potential employees. After presumably killing his previous manager, Claudio kidnaps and infects a woman, Taylor, locking her in a room for six months, where she is drugged, starved, chained to a bed and raped daily by him and a variety of fetishists, having done this to countless of his "children" before. After Taylor escapes, Claudio congratulates her for regaining her senses so soon and threatens to leave her exposed to the sun until she is destroyed.
  • Elizabeth of the Bones, commonly known as Bony Lizzie, is a sadistic child-killing witch who harvests bones for rituals. Posing as Alice Deane's aunt, she's actually her mother, having conceived with the Fiend. She once had a brain-eating familiar, and Lizzie didn't interfere when it targeted her daughter. She first plots to free her dreaded grandmother Mother Malkin by tricking Tom into giving her blood cakes and abducting a little boy as a meal. She inflicts Tom with nightmarish hallucinations, before she tries to take his thumb bones. After taking over the isle of Mona, she murders a miller who challenged her authority, trapping his soul in limbo, sentences John Gregory, Adriana and Commander Stanton to be fed to the Buggane, drinks the blood of a yeoman and leads raiding parties slaughtering entire families. When Alice ruins her plans of world domination, she attempts to take her life then successfully kills Adriana and her fiancé. The flashback of the twelfth book reveals that she killed a Spook before torturing his soul and attempted to kill thirteen children for a ritual, while in the present day, her ghost ambushes Alice and Thorne to be interrogated and tortured by the daemon Beelzebub. In The Dark Assassin, Lizzie treacherously delivers the witch assassin Grimalkin and Thorne to another daemon.
  • Alan Wilson is the leader of a cabal organization in season 7, as well as being one of the two masterminds behind the events of season 5, alongside Phillip Bauer. Longing to dismantle the American government, Wilson had Jonas Hodges develop a bioweapon so he and his organization could launch terrorist attacks within several American cities simultaneously, which would've led to the deaths of millions. He would then offload the blame on various foreign countries, and once the government fell, he and his various private military firms would take over and police America. After Hodges botched his plans, Wilson tries to have him killed to keep him from talking. He later convinces his organization to launch an attack on a subway station once he realizes he still has some of the bioweapon left. Even after the attack fails, Wilson decides to harvest Jack Bauer's blood and organs so he could extract the pathogen from his body and restart his schemes months later.
  • First Wave:
    • The monstrous Mabus, ruler of the Gua, has guided them on conquests that inevitably become genocides, exterminating all life on multiple planets. When he arrives on Earth, Mabus kills any ranking officer who dares to defy his orders while attempting to push for the Second Wave to kill millions of human civilians. Mabus, when his husk is destroyed, begins bodyjacking other humans, painfully obliterating their minds when he burns them out, eventually taking over the heroine Jordan and hunting down and wiping out entire resistance cells. He then even rapes the hero Cade Foster in Jordan's body to conceive a child that will be his perfect host. Mabus attempts to bring about an invasion, intending on killing every human being alive, obsessed with his own power and glory and caring for nothing else—not even the other Gua.
    • Cain is Mabus's second-in-command and second only to his leader in depravity among the Gua. Serving as the sympathetic Gua Joshua's replacement, Cain kidnaps Cade to subject him to horrible mental torture to plumb the Book of Nostradamus from his mind, apathetic to his survival through the process. Cain murders several people along the way, from using a cop as a human bomb to murdering one of his own minions to pay for another's failure, and later tortures a man to death in order to find the location of resistance base Raven Nation. Cain's attempt to slaughter Raven Nation fails, but he gets away with murdering one of their leaders in the process out of spite. Cain's ultimate goal is to launch the Second Wave, which would kill 19 million initially and millions later, remaining suavely sadistic the whole while he's onscreen.
    • Dr. Reid, from season 1's "Blind Witness", is a twisted Gua scientist who believes humans are nothing but livestock. Running a hospital, Reid takes the human patients and performs agonizing experiments on them that either kill them or result in Reid having them disposed of when he's finished. Reid grafts new parts to them, or carves them up to find out what makes them tick, before attempting to murder his only success, a former blind woman, along with Cade himself.
    • Logan Bishop, from season 3's "Unearthed", poses as one of the heads of an archaeological dig to find the legendary Hammer of Thor, in actuality a Gua artifact. Working directly on orders from Mabus, Bishop murders the leader of the dig once his use wears out by snapping his neck and tries to torture the location of other agents out of Eddie. Bishop's true goal is to use the Hammer of Thor to annihilate all life on Earth, even sadistically mocking the heroes that they'll be at the forefront of the slaughter he'll unleash.
  • EXA_PICO:
    • Ar Tonelico 2: Dr. Laude, part of the Grand Bell regime, is in charge of experimenting on and containing girls infected with the IPD virus, with many of these girls ended up dead or severely traumatized. Laude isn't doing this though because he believes in the Grand Bell's cause, but is instead using them so he could find the Heart of Gaia. He's actually from the world of Treya, and he plans to use the Heart of Gaia to gain fame, even if this means sacrificing everyone from Metafalls. To that end, he goes against the main party when he tries to steal the Heart of Gaia, even when it contains the soul of one of the Sacred Maidens who are needed to save the world. When his plans are stopped, Laude kidnaps Reisha, the mother of Luca, one of the Sacred Maidens, to forcibly turn Luca to become another Heart of Gaia. This act lead to a chain of events that cause his own death and Reisha dying in her daughter's arms. Laude would sacrifice another world for his precious artifact, just to return home and bask in fame and glory.
    • Surge Concerto prequel series:
      • Ciel nosurge: Revelt, head of Tenmon, one of the two leading groups of Ra Ciela, in actuality is one of their biggest problems. Building himself as a man for the people due to his technology, Revelt has always wanted to be in the top and would use any means necessary to get there. Separating his own daughter Nay's body and soul to place Ion, a girl with more potential, in her body. He would then train that person to become the perfect candidate for the next empress of Ra Ciela, through years of physical, emotional and sexual torture. He then forced his other daughter Renall to befriend Ion and betray her if she ever tries to disobey. Once Ion is ready to be made Empress, Revelt started making deals with other antagonists in order for Ion to solve them and make herself look better to the people. Once Ion began to resist Revelt's hold on her after realizing his true actions, he decides to drop all formalities and starts using force. When Ion and her friends fight back, Revelt ultimately decides to screw over his people by trying to use song magic to teleport himself and his followers away from Ra Ciela to a new planet while leaving it to be destroyed, and then guaranteeing its end when he's stopped to take everyone down with him. A selfish, ambitious man, Revelt destroyed his own home just because society didn't follow him.
      • Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star: The "other player", much like the Player Character, has the power of Interdimend, the ability to visit and control a being from another dimension in order to interact with the world. Unlike the player character trying to save the world, this player's goal is to send Nero back to her world, although the other player goes about doing it in the most callous way possible. Controlling Prim, the mind-child of protagonist Delta and Cass, he first assists Zill in her plan of creating the Maternal Overseer, a being that can absorb souls, to pull off her goal of making everyone's being into one consciousness. Once Zill has let herself be part of the Maternal Overseer, the other player makes their move to destroy the world while taunting Delta and Cass by using their own daughter as an avatar to do all of this, with each plan being stopped by the player character's interference. Once all the conflicts were about to be solved, the other player makes their final move by trying to eliminate everyone, using a giant mecha dragon they made and to convert every being into energy. This is where it is revealed that they plan to get enough energy to bring Nero back to their world to "complete the game in a 100%" from their side. When confronted by everyone, including the player character themselves about this not being a game, the other player shows that they knew but didn't care. They would destroy and kill thousands of residents of another universe just out of amusement and their own selfishness. It is also heavily implied that the other player was the one who almost killed Ion in her home world and forced her to send her soul to Ra Ciela.
  • inFAMOUS: First Light: Shane Bommer starts out as a small time drug lord and gang leader. When he meets Abigail "Fetch" Walker, he puts on a helpful face, manipulating her into using her powers to help him win a gang war and kill rival gangsters under the pretext of saving her brother Brent. When Brent is rescued, Shane takes him hostage to force Fetch into working for him to cement his hold on Seattle's drug trade. When one of his employees, Jenny, tries to help Fetch find Brent, Shane kills Jenny in retaliation. He then tries to get the police in his pocket, forcing Fetch to cause destruction and slaughter dozens of cops in order to blackmail the chief, and luring Fetch into a makeshift gas chamber, because she's now a liability. Later, he drugs Fetch, and tricks her into killing her brother before she is captured by the DUP. When captured himself and cornered after Fetch's rampage against him, Shane has no remorse for his crimes, using his last words to taunt Fetch about her brother's death.
  • Marlow Briggs and the Mask of Death: Heng Long is an evil enterpriser who seeks world domination by gaining godlike powers from the substance Tiox Choq'ik. Planning to use his powers to cause the apocalypse, he builds plantations over numerous South American civilizations to harvest the hidden Mayan codices. When his translator Eva Torres tries to leave with her boyfriend, smokejumper Marlow Briggs, Long has Kim Carreras kill Marlow and force Eva to remain by his side. Not treating his henchmen any better, he jokes about their deaths, allows them to be possessed by evil spirits, and gleefully kills some for a ritual. Killing Kim after discovering her plans to betray him, Long laughs as the world slowly starts to crumble, and tries to kill Marlow when he arrives to save Eva.
  • Turok games:
    • Evolution has the Big Bad and The Heavy:
      • Lord Tyrannus, tyrannical Tyrannosaurus and tyrant of the Lost Land, seeks to initiate a full purge to all who would resist his bloody rule. Tyrannus has the Slegs wreak wide swaths of slaughter throughout the Lost Land, appointing the bloodthirsty Tobias Bruckner to his cause to cause even further destruction. Tyrannus's ultimate goal is to topple the city of Galyanna, even unveiling a super weapon called The Juggernaut to utterly destroy it and its populace, seeking nothing less than to cull millions afterwards to assure his grip on the Lost Land.
      • The "Red Snake", the aforementioned Captain Tobias Bruckner, Arch-Enemy of Tal'set, is a murderous, racist Confederate who massacres Tal'set's entire tribe at the beginning of the game, plunged into the Lost Lands after with his arm cut off. Tyrannus refashions Bruckner into a cyborg to give Bruckner the chance to slake his thirst for revenge against Tal'set, leading to the village that takes Tal'set in kidnapped by his forces and set for execution. Bruckner continues to spearhead further bloodshed and tries in earnest to destroy Galyanna, trying to slay Tal'set one last time astride a Tyrannosaurus.
    • Turok (2008 Continuity Reboot): Roland Kane is the leader of Wolf Pack, as well as the Evil Mentor of Joseph Turok in the backstory. Kane's brutal training fashioned his recruits into hardened killers with no hesitations about murdering innocents, proven when Kane accidentally massacres numerous innocents in Columbia—to his complete apathy, vowing to find his target if he has to kill every peasant in the country and blowing out the brains of a young girl Turok accidentally injures. In the present, Kane has sold out his services to the Mendel-Gruman Corporation, turning the toxins produced by the terraformed planet's wildlife into a lethal airborne bioweapon he tests on a facility full of his own men. Greed manifest, Kane intends to sell the toxin as a weapon, all for a quick buck.
  • Yesterday: Henry White was a Serial Killer of homeless people as a teenager, who matured into a Corrupt Corporate Executive. He captures and tortures an immortal man named John Yesterday for twenty years before deciding to seek immortality for himself, killing dozens of people in Satanic rituals in his quest. After forcing John to synthesize the immortality elixir by shooting his lover, Henry happily executes his best friend since high school simply to keep immortality for himself. After gaining immortality along with Pauline, Henry stabs John in the back after the man saves Henry from falling off a cliff, and reveals he plans to use the now-immortal Pauline as his own personal torture toy for all eternity. A cheerful psychopath who enjoys his own homicidal tendencies, Henry White was willing to betray, torture, and murder dozens of innocents, even his best friend, for eternal life, and his own sick amusement.
  • Ghostbusters:
    • The Grundel is an evil spirit who enjoys corrupting children. The more bad actions the child commits, the more the child falls under the Grundel's influence, eventually turning into a Grundel themself. First appearing in the The Real Ghostbusters season 3 episode "The Grundel", he convinced a child named Alec to tamper with the Ghostbusters' proton packs during a school assembly, endangering all the other children present. The Grundel also manages to convince Alec to bring his brother Lee to him so he can corrupt Lee as well, despite Alec's initial protests. When Peter Venkman tries to save Alec and Lee, the Grundel tries to prevent this, stating "If I can't have them, neither can you!" He returns in the Extreme Ghostbusters episode "Grundelesque," taking place 10 years later. It is revealed that he has a connection to one of the new Ghostbusters, Kylie. The Grundel tried to corrupt Kylie as a child, but when she successfully resisted, he corrupted her friend Jack instead. The Grundel places Jack in a cocoon for 10 years, so that he will become another Grundel. When Kylie confronts the original Grundel about this new Grundel, the Grundel taunts Kylie about their past history and the fate of her former childhood friend. The Grundel later escapes from the containment unit and tries to corrupt Roland's brother Casey. While the Grundel knows his powers only work on children, he thinks it would be fun to murder Kylie anyway.
    • Extreme Ghostbusters:
      • The ectoplasmic being known only as "Piper", from "The Pied Piper of Manhattan," initially seems a savior to New York City when introduced, as his pipe has the ability to repel ghosts even the Ghostbusters are powerless against. Piper soon reveals his true colors, however: he is the one responsible for the sudden plague of ghosts, and when the Mayor attempts to pay him according to contract, Piper reveals he wants more. After his requests for a statue of himself down 5th Avenue and an office in city hall are denied, Piper uses his flute to hypnotize the children of the city and tries to force them to drown themselves, gloating the mayor will "rue the day he refused to pay the Piper." When the Ghostbusters intervene, Piper has no compunction using the kids as human shields in the ensuing fight.
      • Surt, from "Slimer's Sacrifice", is a godlike ghost who seeks to bring about the apocalypse. His minion Fenris prepares his coming by turning three humans into his vanguards. When Slimer ends up in the containment unit, Surt demands to know how Slimer got in there and hints that he is going to torture the information out of him. When Surt senses Eduardo's presence, he allows him to rescue Slimer and waits for him to open the exit to the containment unit so he can follow them. When Eduardo realizes Surt's plan and destroys the remote that will open the exit, Surt activates a spell he placed on Slimer to make him cut Eduardo's oxygen tank, before releasing Slimer from his control so he can realize that he just doomed his friend and be left to watch him suffocate and die, with Surt promising to return and torture Slimer after Eduardo dies.
  • Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle-Earth: Morgoth, the Enemy, was a former Valar who turned against his fellows and destroyed the lights of Valinor. Fleeing to Middle-Earth after murdering the Noldor king, Morgoth kills countless elves in their pursuit of him, even slaying their king Fingolfin as painfully as he can in single combat after wiping out the Noldor host. It is revealed Morgoth tortures many prisoners in his dungeons, boasting that nobody ever escapes him. When the hero Hurin defies Morgoth, Morgoth tortures him and forces him to see the ruin of Hruin's own kin for "troubl(ing) (his) day", obsessed with his own power and domination, declaring that all who stand oppose him shall be damned in the end.
  • A Sound of Thunder: In "Udoroth", the titular Udoroth was once a barbarian warlord who slaughtered and raped everything in his path before being slain and forced to pay for every crime in his mortal life. Udoroth became a merciless demon lord by killing his way to the top, assuring a cruel reign over the domain he rules over. To slake his perpetual lust for agony and torture, Udoroth enslaves, slaughters, and tortures everything within sight, eventually leading his hordes to conquer Earth and rule a land of the living and dead with no divide.

Edited by ACW on Sep 3rd 2018 at 7:19:24 AM

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#128510: Sep 2nd 2018 at 6:18:50 AM

Anyone wanted to answer my question above? Just saying.

Also, yea to the candidates that I missed (If I haven't vote for them before.)

@Scraggle P.S. Nice pfp dude! Almost look like Nick-O' Teen but handsome :P

@ACW Also, is it okay to add "who is also the mastermind behind the tragedies that happened in the anime" after "the brother of the King of Greecia" on Georca's writeup or just leave it be?

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:20:10 PM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
DukeNukem4ever Since: Jan, 2017
#128511: Sep 2nd 2018 at 6:23:20 AM

Here's what I found on Dangan Ronpa 3's YMMV page:

  • Complete Monster: Before this anime, Junko avoided this trope due to having elements of mystery around her atrocities. After this anime, we're shown just how monstrous Junko is, and she qualifies this trope big time. For the reasoning, see the page for the series overall.

I don't think we really need to reference Complete Monster trope in its fairness. Was this change ever approved at all?

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#128512: Sep 2nd 2018 at 6:27:55 AM

[up][up] I dunno if that's necessary for Georca; it seems to be implied by the writeup.

Edited by ACW on Sep 2nd 2018 at 9:27:40 AM

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#128513: Sep 2nd 2018 at 6:32:32 AM

[up] Ah I might just leave it be then.

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#128514: Sep 2nd 2018 at 6:36:38 AM

@acw: For claudio, please change "children" to "children"

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#128516: Sep 2nd 2018 at 7:26:10 AM

@ElfenLied

As somebody who watched the anime, that's not a valid FE at all. It was more of an annoyance to Hans (the villain you're referring to) if anything, since the people trying to force him in said cult were acting more like obnoxious advertisers than threatening fanatics. Along with that, even if the people of the town weren't trying to get Hans to convert to their religion, he was at the town to poison the springs there to begin with.

That said, with the heavy comedic tone of the series that he barely darknes, along with the fact that at the end of the day, he was just following the orders of a higher-up with the only villainy that was purely on him own was nearly killing a priest makes me hesitant.

Edited by Awesomekid42 on Sep 2nd 2018 at 11:09:06 AM

Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#128517: Sep 2nd 2018 at 7:33:15 AM

Gonna be busy the next few days; this week finally going to college for film studies, hope to launch my writing career - if at some point in the future you find a work that's a love letter to 90's horror of deconstruction on the young adult supernatual genre, you'll know I made it.

I've got a little bit of time to get my shit together. So I guess I'll be looking for some of my larger entries and trim them a little. Also gonna be revisiting a vampire comic if I have the time (not from Buffy, in fact I'm thinking of handing The Reckoning over to Lighty).

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#128518: Sep 2nd 2018 at 7:40:30 AM

@Awesome Kid Ah thanks for the info... Although I might going to check the LN to see if someone could qualify despite *ahem* the comedic tone of the series.

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
TommyFresh Since: Aug, 2013
#128519: Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:08:50 AM

[tup] Saran, Lighty's manga candidates, and Griffith.

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#128520: Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:10:32 AM

[tup] Saran, Griffith, etc.

zcooper95 Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#128521: Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:22:39 AM

Ok so here's Zack Shelby's current writeup:

Zach Shelby seems at first like a charming, likable guy who wants to help Norma Bates and her family out. It is soon revealed Shelby is a deadly, violent man who participates (along with Keith Summers, who is killed early on) in the sex slave operation under the direction of Jake Abernathy and just helped out the family so he could sleep with Norma. Shelby keeps an Asian sex slave named Jiao locked in terrible conditions in his basement where he regularly rapes her, and when he discovers the Bates family have helped her escaped, he attempts to murder them all. When he sees Jiao again, he tries to murder her as well, presumably succeeding, before he forces Norma, Norman and Dylan Bates into the motel so that he can kill them

I think all we have to do is cut the "presumably succeeding" part.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#128522: Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:26:54 AM

I'm fine either way. "Presumably succeeding" doesn't necessarily mean that he DID succeed.

Knack Since: Mar, 2018
#128523: Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:32:13 AM

@hegelvonaxel Made of evil characters don't count if there is valid reason to suggest they actually are made of evil and incapable of changing their nature. Dark Marik is an evil spirit of another guy who possessed Marik, he isn't a good example.

Edited by Knack on Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:32:04 AM

Mitchz95 Since: Feb, 2015
#128524: Sep 2nd 2018 at 8:56:35 AM

So am I okay to attempt a draft for the Foreman here? He got fourteen [tup]s, which I would assume is enough.

MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#128525: Sep 2nd 2018 at 9:07:58 AM

[tup] to Ogrell Syn'Gorrsh, Professor Kuromatsu, Ryuzaburo Sakata, Loki Master and Saran of Gaza.


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