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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
Nirrti.
I'll get to writing up Seth Farrow's entry soon as well.
"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."- Kamen Rider Chūshingura stageshow: Doctor Kira/Kamen Rider Killer is the egotistical B.O.A.R.D. researcher responsible for the dangerous Killer System. Believing that everyone else was jealous of his superior intelligence, Kira happily guns down a co-worker for having judged him, and enslaves three Orphnochs, using them as attack dogs to distract Kenzaki and Aikawa while he programs the Killer System. Having been betrayed by his assistant, Oishi, who steals the Faiz Driver from him, Kira sends the Orphnochs to kill her. After the Orphnochs are defeated, Kira ignores Oishi's attempts of convincing him to cancel the Killer System, and uses it to mutate himself into Rider form, easily overpowering the other Riders and trying to kill Oishi. When given a chance of redemption, Kira completely rejects it, considering the world "full of lies".
- Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor: Former Imperial Court Mage Guard Jatice Lowfan was stripped of his position for using Angel's Dust—a drug which horrifically turned its user into an easily controlled, zombie-like creature—to control innocents into assassinating rivals in the Imperial Court Corps and nobles. Discovered by Glenn Radars, Jatice has his puppets murder Glenn's only friend out of spite, which he later taunts him about. Murdering a man, Jatice takes his identity and coerces Glenn's student Sistine into marrying him, while continuing to taunt Glenn.
- Code Geass: The psychotic Luciano Bradley is the most despicable member of the elite Britannian Knights of the Round. Joining the group solely so he can kill combatants and civilians alike, Luciano shows even more depravity towards a captured Kallen, implying he plans to rape her before being stopped by fellow Knight of the Round, Gino. Participating in an assault on Japan, Luciano delights in the chance to massacre everyone in sight with racist glee. A man with loyalty to none, Luciano also takes any chance he can to murder his own men if they get in his way, gleeful at the chance to take any life.
- Legend of Galactic Heroes: Prince Otho von Braunschweig will take any measure to secure power, launching a civil war when the former Kaiser's grandson is made ruler of the empire instead of his daughter. Continuing the Goldenbaum Dynasty's despicable eugenics policy, Braunschweig allows himself and other nobles free reign to torment common folk, viewing the latter as inferior. An incompetent but vile military commander, Braunschweig threatens the family of a genius admiral to force him to serve; executes the sole surviving noble from a lost battle for the mere suspicion of treason; and happily throws away the lives of countless soldiers for his war. For killing his oppressive nephew, Braunschweig orders the Westerland Massacre, nuking the entire planet out of rage, not at the death of his nephew but at the commoners' defiance. This repulsive act causes even Braunschweig's own noble followers to commit mass defection and even suicide.
- The Promised Neverland: Lord Bayon is an upper-class demon and manager of the Grand Valley plantation. Missing the thrill of hunting humans, Bayon used his connections to have children smuggled out of their plantations and delivered to be slaughtered and eaten by him. When discovered by Peter Ratri, Bayon and Ratri secretly establish Goldy Pond, an illegal hunting ground initially intended to provide as shelter for escapees. Throughout the years, Bayon had countless children taken out of their plantations and forced to fend for their lives against Bayon and several other upper-class demons participating in the hunt every two to three days. When Lucas's escape group comes across Goldy Pond, Bayon has the entire group slaughtered with only Lucas and one other escapee surviving. When Bayon finds out that Emma, a premium grade human, is in Goldy Pond, he breaks his own rules and starts a hunt ahead of schedule. Bayon is shown to have no compassion towards his fellow demons, congratulating Gillian and Nigel when he finds out that they killed Luce. He then wounds Gillian and tortures her in an attempt to get Nigel to reveal where Lucas is. When Bayon is about to be killed, he feels nothing but excitement over the bloodshed and attempts to kill Lucas before dying.
- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Conflict of Interest: Carlo Luciano was an assassin for the Rivales Family, killing many people. After Francisco Mendirez tried to kill him, Luciano faked his own death and devoted his life to making Mendirez suffer. Impersonating Mendirez, he contacted Nathen Togamera and got him to work for him, before murdering Cody Hackins and framing Togamera for it. He proceeded to try and have Maya Fey assassinated, intending for his henchman Raphael Donatello and Donatello's forced accomplice Meredith Fey to both be convicted for it. Finally, he goes on a killing spree, murdering various people and framing Mendirez for the killings in an attempt to have him executed. When Phoenix proves Luciano is the true culprit, he takes Mark Watters hostage and tries to shoot and kill Phoenix.
- CRME: Cinder Fall remorselessly murders her sister, claiming it was a Mercy Kill, and admits she has killed multiple innocents in the past. Abusing and manipulating Emerald into being loyal to her, when the mother of her other follower, Mercury, threatens her son to leave Cinder or be killed, Cinder strangles his mother to death, not out of care for Mercury but to keep a warrior. When Mercury calls Cinder out for becoming the same abusive monster as her own mother, Cinder has Emerald assail him with projections of his abusive parents to overwhelm him into obedience. Willing to engage in terrorist activities to keep her followers focused on her and threatening to throw Emerald to the street for questioning her, Cinder is a narcissistic psychopath.
- 24 Hours to Live (2017): Wetzler is the ruthless CEO of Red Mountain, and a man obsessed with "changing the face of warfare". In order to perfect a procedure where a dead person can be brought Back from the Dead, Wetzler routinely has innocent villagers kidnapped and subjected to cruel experiments, killing at least 70 men, women, and children in the name of science. When one of his men sells him out to Interpol, Wetzler orders him killed, and when Travis Conrad fails to kill the witness, Wetzler attempts to kill him as well. Instigating an attack that kills the witness, cops, and civilians alike, Wetzler has Interpol agent Lin's young son kidnapped, and when confronted by Conrad, he reveals that he was the one that had Conrad's wife and child murdered, as he believes "a man with no family has nothing to lose". A callous psychopath with no sense of loyalty to anyone, Wetzler admits his only code is doing whatever he wants.
- Schindler's List: SS officer Amon Goeth is in charge of liquidating the Krakow Jewish ghetto, and is later in charge of the Plaszow concentration camp. When a Jewish forewoman protests the structure they are building is unsound, Goeth has her killed for raising her opinion, only to follow her instruction to improve the structure. Tormenting his prisoners for his amusement, Goeth shoots them from his quarters with a sniper rifle for sport; kills 25 in anger for one escaping; and laughs at the crying parents of children he sends off to the gas chambers. Subverting any chance at humanity he is given, when Oskar Schindler tries to convince him to show mercy, Goeth briefly considers sparing a Jewish boy who failed to clean spots from his bathtub before killing him; and finding himself attracted to a Jewish woman, decides to blame her for his own lust and savagely beats her.
- Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue In one of the darkest entries in the franchise, these two are the most vile:
- Iwao Himuro is the paranoid head of the ISS. An uncaring, heartless Bad Boss to his employees, Himuro considers those who refuse to cooperate with his projects as his own enemies, and has them either assassinated or imprisoned. Using his facility as a front for human experimentation, Himuro plans on obtaining financial gain through the mass production of super soldiers to be sold to the military industry. Forcing Shin's father to continue the research after having his former partner "resigned", Himuro denies his permission to not get his son involved, explaining that it was "too late for that". Armed with a submachine gun, Himuro guns down Ai, Shin's pregnant girlfriend, when she takes the bullet for him.
- Giichi Onizuka/Onizuka Rider is one of Himuro's top scientists and secretly a misanthropic Serial Killer. Harboring an agenda of his own, Onizuka sabotages an experiment, altering both his and Shin's DNA, seeking to create an army of human-grasshopper hybrids to overthrow humanity, with him as their ruler. He wants Shin to be his first recruit, once trying to convince him into embracing his violent side. As a Cyborg Soldier Level 3, Onizuka regularly commits murders around the city For the Evulz, primarily targeting lone women. Introduced brutally killing a woman in the middle of the night, Onizuka proceeds to cut the throats of two undercover police officers investigating the slayings, and slaughters the cops who had arrived at the scene. When his secret lab is invaded by the CIA, Onizuka nearly kills the entire squadron, and tries to repeat this when he is indirectly released from containment by a group of agents.
- The Hard Way: Edward Lane is the psychotic head of an illegal mercenary operation, and the true Big Bad of the story. An egotistical Control Freak of the highest order, Lane had his first wife murdered when she attempted to divorce him, faking a kidnapping to throw suspicion off of himself. He ties up loose ends by abandoning two of his men to the mercy of a group of insurgents known to mutilate their prisoners, completely indifferent to the years of torture they are forced to endure. Upon remarrying, Lane keeps his new wife Kate in line by threatening to rape her five-year-old daughter with a potato peeler, a promise he attempts to make good on at the story's climax. Tying up Kate, his step-daughter, his wife's paramour Taylor, Taylor's brother Jackson, and Reacher's Love Interest Pauling to slowly torture each of them to death, Lane notices that Kate is pregnant with Taylor's baby, and immediately attempts a manual abortion, saying it "wouldn't be right" for her to die with someone else's child inside of her. Lane ultimately attempts to lure Reacher out of hiding by holding Jackson at gunpoint, intending to shoot him in the legs and make Pauling lick up the man's blood "like a dog" if Reacher doesn't surrender.
- Artemis Fowl: Opal Koboi became head of her father's company by driving him insane. Organizing the Goblin rebellion alongside Briar Cudgeon, Opal took advantage of their violent nature to cause a violent uprising, planning to betray them all along. To escape prison after being arrested, Opal creates a clone, not caring it will die easily and cannot think for itself, allowing her to manipulate it. Killing Julius Root, Opal frames the innocent Holly and Mind Rapes a kind-hearted humanitarian, forcing him to send a probe into the Earth and reveal the Faerie people, hoping to cause a war behind humans and Faeries. Opal is also revealed to have experimented on and killed endangered animals to make herself more powerful. In the final book, Opal murders her own past version of herself when the past version of her was trying to free the present Opal from prison, which causes all products produced by her company to explode, with planes crashing and global communications cutting off. Manipulating the ghosts of dead Faeries to Kill All Humans and take over the surface world, Opal shows time and time again what a heartless creature she is.
- Harry Potter:
- Lord Voldemort—born Tom Marvolo Riddle—is a textbook example of a sociopath, who refuses to accept love. Beginning the title character's suffering by murdering his parents and attempting to do the same to the infant Harry, Voldemort would go on to attempt two genocidal wars against wizards born to Muggles, Muggles themselves and anyone who dared support them, viewing pure-blood wizards as superior, despite being half-Muggle himself. Taking advantage of the soul splitting caused by the evil spell that can kill people, Voldemort murders seven people and implants pieces of his soul in various objects, to become immortal, uncaring toward the detrimental effect doing so has on his sanity. Throughout the years, Voldemort attempts to open the forbidden Chamber of Secrets as a teenager in the hopes the beast within would kill all Muggle-born witches and wizards; murders his own father and grandparents, framing his uncle for his crime; orders the death of the innocents Hogwarts student Cedric Diggory; murdered an entire family for the mother not being able to tell him where his target was; murders any of his own followers who dare to bring him bad news; and murders Severus Snape the second be believes doing so would grant him greater power. Although born from a loveless, magically-induced union, it was Voldemort's unyielding choice to pursue power and hurt anyone who got in his way that defined his monstrous nature.
- Bellatrix Lestrange is a psychopathic Death Eater who seems to be motivated primarily by her desire to inflict as much pain on as many people as possible in the name of Voldemort's cause. Bellatrix, gleeful cruelty incarnate, has a special fondness for torturing people with the Cruciatus curse, and tortured Neville Longbottom's parents to the point where they exist in near-comas, and will never recognize their own son again. She is also an accomplished arsonist, burning down multiple residences basically just for the sake of it. She's the cause of death for half of her non-Death-Eater family members, including Sirius Black and Nymphadora Tonks, as well as Dobby, and delights in the torment these deaths cause.
- Dolores Jane Umbridge is a domineering and abusive matron figure and a bureaucrat whose pettiness and personal failings cause catastrophic harm to those under her control, all while maintaining a kind, grandmotherly veneer. In Order of the Phoenix, she becomes a teacher at Hogwarts and forces students who speak up against the Ministry of Magic—or who just displease her—to use the Blood Quill, which uses the writer's blood as ink and can result in permanent scarring. At one point she threatens to use the illegal Cruciatus curse, which has been shown to cause unimaginable pain, and reveals that she sent the two Dementors after Harry and his cousin. In Deathly Hallows, she willingly supports the Death Eater-controlled Ministry, and holds hastily rushed and sadistic trials against Muggle-borns, where she accuses them of stealing magic and gleefully sentences them to the Potter-verse's worst fate, the soul-stealing Dementor's Kiss.
- Fenrir Greyback is a savage werewolf who enthusiastically supports Voldemort's regime for the chance to indulge his violent nature. Unlike many other werewolves, Fenrir relishes in turning others—such as Remus Lupin—and ruining their lives. Fenrir especially has a disturbing fondness for attacking children. In addition, Fenrir is a cannibal in both human and wolf form, and expresses a desire to eat Harry in Half-Blood Prince after savagely mauling Bill Weasley and leaving him for dead. Fenrir even states he participates in the attack to get his claws on as many children as he can. In Deathly Hallows, Fenrir serves Voldemort's regime by helping in rounding up the "unclean" wizards or those who will not submit and expresses a desire to eat Hermione after Bellatrix is finished torturing her.
- The Pendragon Adventure: The shapeshifter, Saint Dane, manipulates catastrophes across parallel universes, called "territories", ensuring they result in the worst possible outcome. Manipulating the oppressed people of a territory, Saint Dane causes a catastrophic war to destroy their planet; on another planet, creates a poison to kill the plants in the hopes of creating mass famine; on Earth, gives nukes to the Nazis to help them win World War II; on a jungle planet, tries to use his poison again in the hopes the natives will hunt each other to extinction; on a desert planet, inflames tensions, trying to lead to one tribe being wiped out; and on yet another planet, crushes a rebellion against tyranny, ensuring the people would continue to suffer in the dystopia. Using the Cult of Ravinia to conquer various worlds, Saint Dane has those he deems too weak killed or banished, while trying to become a God.
- Citizen X: Andrei Chikatilo is a Serial Rapist and Serial Killer who takes full advantage of the broken Soviet system in order to get away with murder. A failure as a husband, father, and employee, Chikatilo finds success as the USSR's most prolific serial criminal after being fired from his teaching job for molesting a teenage girl. Lurking at train stations, Chikatilo convinces the very old, the very young, and the mentally handicapped to accompany him into the woods, where he alternately rapes and murders or murders and rapes them, typically bludgeoning the victims unconscious and then stabbing them dozens of times. Escaping justice due to his Communist Party connections and the incompetency of the state investigators, Chikatilo kills 52 people before being arrested for the final time.
- Martin Beck:
- Gorzi, from season 1's "Guesthouse Pearl", is a greedy former human trafficker turned human smuggler who, while not initially heinous, stands out due to his cruel methods and overall disregard for the people he is smuggling. His ways of smuggling consists of him using vulnerable immigrants, taping a bottle of cerium on them, which can explode at anytime, and then placing them on cruisers, not caring if the cerium blows up. In his final scene, he abuses one of the people he was smuggling, and threatens to kill him for no reason.
- Dag Sjöberg, from the season 2 premiere "The Price of Revenge", is introduced killing two cops after stealing bombs and weapons with his two main associates, the first cop Dag had previously tried to arrest due to "assault", the second one being completely innocent. Both of his associates are shocked by this, debating on whether or not they should really cooperate with him. Dag proceeds to taunt Gunvald Larsson, who was friends with the cop Dag killed. He then threatens to kill his own associate Santos, just because the latter thought Dag went too far. The trio's true goal is to bomb an entire building just so that they can see the explosion. The next time Dag is shown, he is disguised as a policeman and kills three policemen, not caring when the true police come and arrest his two associates Santos and Victor. He manages to run away in the woods, until he sees a farm, where he kills the farmer who lives there and then threatens his wife inside the house, terrorizing her and her child Elin. When the police finally come, he holds the child hostage, and even when the police offer to make him torture Gunvald instead of the child, he takes the offer, only to still keep her. He reminds Gunvald of his friend dying and how he wasn't able to help him, playing Russian roulette with him, terrorizing the little girl, all with childish glee. Once he realizes that he'll get arrested either way, he does the one thing Gunvald didn't want him to do: commit suicide.
- Red Riding: Even in a time during the Yorkshire Ripper murders, these two manage to stand out as completely evil:
- Reverend Martin Laws, aka "The Wolf", is the leader of a child sex-and-murder ring where he and various officials rape, torture, and strangle kids to death before sewing swan wings onto their corpses. Working with the corrupt West Yorkshire Constabulary (WYC), he allows them to do whatever they can to keep his club a secret, whether it be torture or murder, even framing people like the mentally challenged Michael Myshkin for the kidnappings. When BJ—a male prostitute who managed to escape the club as a child—returns to kill him, the Wolf coerces BJ into letting his guard down before trying to murder him with a power drill.
- John Dawson is a corrupt, charismatic real estate developer, and the worst member of the Wolf's child sex-and-murder ring. Pursuing a £100 million joint investment between himself and the top echelons of the WYC on his shopping center project in return for covering up his crimes, Dawson orders the evacuation of a Romani camp before having it burned down and made his property. Kidnapping a young girl in 1974, Dawson proceeds to rape, torture, and strangle her to death before stitching swan wings to her back, dumping the body on his new property where he'll build his new shopping center. Willing to do whatever he can to prevent the truth from leaking, he sends his wife to a nursing home, orders the police to kill reporter Barry and his own girlfriend Paula Garland, and has Edward Dunford tortured.
- The Walking Dead: Simon is The Dragon to Negan, yet stands out as even more bloodthirsty and psychotic than his boss. Introduced after having just finished wiping out an entire community of survivors, he then proceeds to hunt down the remaining survivor with his men, then mercilessly beat and lynch him as an example for Rick and his group for killing Negan's men. When Negan sends Simon to make another deal with the Scavengers and kill one for betraying them, he slaughters the whole community instead, except Jadis herself. During Negan's absence, Simon leads his men towards Hilltop, intending on exterminating them all. When Maggie tries to blackmail him by using his captured men as hostages, Simon simply dismisses them as "used goods" and attacks the colony while they are on the line of fire. Simon has his men smear their weapons with walker blood, ensuring that it would infect all the wounded. He is also the one behind the tragedy of the Oceanside, having massacred their entire male population above the age of ten for revolting against Negan's rule, which disgusted even Negan himself. After Negan's return, Simon tries to launch coup against him, despite Negan having forgiven him for his atrocities multiple times.
- Aliens vs. Predator (2010): Weyland Yutani's CEO, Karl Bishop Weyland, greedily seeks Predator technology and control over Xenomorphs. Founding a colony, Weyland uncovers a Matriarch Xenomorph; he then has any colonists who complain about the conditions of the colony, as well as unwitting staff members, fatally impregnated by facehuggers to create Xenomorph specimens for him to study. Despite knowing the risks to his colonists, Weyland lets the Xenomorphs escape his labs so he can observe and study their instinctual behavior, callously letting thousands of colonists die, and when a Marine is about to be killed by a chestburster, Weyland spitefully shuts down the surgical equipment so she will die.
- The Arkn Mythos: In a Forever War with a vast cast of morally-ambiguous characters, these three stand out as the absolute worst:
- De'ebo, God of the Godless, is the original Hethe and the entity behind most of the tragedies throughout the franchise. Using his first creation, Hash'bor'kanibal, The Carver, as a vessel for his energy, De'ebo would go on to make the lives of both Arkn and Dekn a living hell. Destroying a large portion of humanity during a fight with Gilgamesh, De'ebo used his former lover's bones and agony to construct the Infernous, and sealed not only his own son, Uriel, but also his other lover in there, at the request of his manipulated daughter. Having been affiliated with The Watchers, De'ebo informed the Arkn Cabinet of their presence, resulting in the massacre of several innocent nephilim. With the help of the Hooks Killer, De'ebo gained a human vessel, and tortured his grandson, Ellpagg, in the Infernous. Encountering Azrael in the Infernous, De'ebo gouges his eyes out and reveals his ultimate goal: to kill every being in existence. Possessing the body of his nephilim son Michael, De'ebo gives Azrael a brand which would burn his body whenever a Hethe came near him, and allowed Azrael to shoot him, killing Michael. A remorseless being with no empathy for anyone, not even his own offspring, De'ebo could only care about amusing himself with pain and chaos.
- The aforementioned Hooks Killer is a repulsive psychopath with a passion for sickening atrocities and a Psycho for Hire assisting De'ebo in his plans while committing countless murders solely for fun. A human with part of The Carver's soul within himself, Hooks uses his powers to become a "perfect killer", reincarnating as multiple criminals in different eras and timelines, with his actions including murdering over 100 people while an outlaw; becoming an utterly brutal medieval ruler; and eviscerating his own pregnant sister and devouring her child, which may or may not have been his own. Not satisfied with murder, Hooks also enjoys consuming human flesh laced with fish hooks, and enjoyed rape, preferably on infants. In order to give De'ebo a human vessel, Hooks murdered a young filmmaker who had been documenting his murders and mutilated Michael Knight, sending him to the Infernous to be tormented by his father. Despite his status as a mere human, Hooks proved himself to be much more deplorable than many Arkn or Dekn.
- Elius'Exe'Deus, or Elias Exodus, is De'ebo's nephilim, teenaged power-hungry great-grandnephew. As a child, Exodus survived the attempted genocide of nephilim by being kept in a realm called the Hybrid Grounds with other nephilim, and in there, Exodus proceeded to slaughter his siblings for their energy. Resurfacing in 2015 as an amnesiac boy suffering from voices inside his head, Exodus had his powers awakened when one of the Dekn who had saved him from the massacre, Persophelus Vine, stopped him from committing suicide. With his memories back, Exodus absorbs Vine's powers and traps him inside a cube; despite everything he had done for him, leaving him to rot in the Hybrid Grounds for eternity. Intending on consuming both Arkn and Dekn to become a living god, Exodus leaves the Hybrid Grounds and visits his uncle, Raphael Tobit Kestler, sending him to The Vale of Nightmares, before murdering his twin brother, gloating on how crazy he was for having effectively driven his own race into near-extinction.
- Kamen Rider Chūshingura stageshow: Doctor Kira/Kamen Rider Killer is the egotistical B.O.A.R.D. researcher responsible for the dangerous Killer System. Believing that everyone else was jealous of his superior intelligence, Kira happily guns down a co-worker for having judged him, and enslaves three Orphnochs, using them as attack dogs to distract Kenzaki and Aikawa while he programs the Killer System. Having been betrayed by his assistant, Oishi, who steals the Faiz Driver from him, Kira sends the Orphnochs to kill her. After the Orphnochs are defeated, Kira ignores Oishi's attempts of convincing him to cancel the Killer System, and uses it to mutate himself into Rider form, easily overpowering the other Riders and trying to kill Oishi. When given a chance of redemption, Kira completely rejects it, considering the world "full of lies".
- Iwao Himuro is the paranoid head of the ISS. An uncaring, heartless Bad Boss to his employees, Himuro considers those who refuse to cooperate with his projects as his own enemies, and has them either assassinated or imprisoned. Using his facility as a front for human experimentation, Himuro plans on obtaining financial gain through the mass production of super soldiers to be sold to the military industry. Forcing Shin's father to continue the research after having his former partner "resigned", Himuro denies his permission to not get his son involved, explaining that it was "too late for that". Armed with a submachine gun, Himuro guns down Ai, Shin's pregnant girlfriend, when she takes the bullet for him.
- Giichi Onizuka/Onizuka Rider is one of Himuro's top scientists and secretly a misanthropic Serial Killer. Harboring an agenda of his own, Onizuka sabotages an experiment, altering both his and Shin's DNA, seeking to create an army of human-grasshopper hybrids to overthrow humanity, with him as their ruler. He wants Shin to be his first recruit, once trying to convince him into embracing his violent side. As a Cyborg Soldier Level 3, Onizuka regularly commits murders around the city For the Evulz, primarily targeting lone women. Introduced brutally killing a woman in the middle of the night, Onizuka proceeds to cut the throats of two undercover police officers investigating the slayings, and slaughters the cops who had arrived at the scene. When his secret lab is invaded by the CIA, Onizuka nearly kills the entire squadron, and tries to repeat this when he is indirectly released from containment by a group of agents.
- Dandy Mott is a spoiled heir who exhibited signs of sociopathy even in childhood, and is heavily implied to have caused another boy's disappearance. As an adult, he has become bored with his lavish lifestyle. This is alleviated when he meets Twisty, a Serial Killer who has kidnapped several young children, whom Dandy is shown gleefully tormenting psychologically. Dandy later becomes a killer himself, after being introduced to "the sweet language of murder". Two of his many victims are another childhood friend and his own mother, the latter of whom he turns into a giant Dead Woman Puppet after bathing in her blood. While he asserts that he identifies with the freaks, he talks down to them and uses the term "freak" to insult them, even after correcting his Dragon for doing the same thing. After they get fed up with his mistreatment, they walk out on their contracts, so Dandy calmly strolls around their campgrounds and shoots them dead as he sees them. Despite his claims of being in love with the Tattler twins, he treats them like possessions rather than human beings, and it's quite obvious that whatever "love" he feels for them is purely narcissistic. Though he presents himself as a cultured aristocrat, Dandy is ultimately just an overgrown child who never quite grew out of the mentality that everyone and everything exists solely to entertain him and bend to his will.
- Stanley wants to kill the freaks just so he can make money off selling their bodies to a museum. Posing as a talent scout to lure Maggie into becoming his apprentice, Stanley attempts to manipulate her into killing Jimmy for him, admitting he would kill her too if her body could be sold. Constantly dreaming of killing the freaks and the money he will make off the freaks' bodies, Stanley tries to poison Bette and Dot with cupcakes, and when he sees Dell at a gay bar, blackmails Dell into killing Ma Petite for him, taunting him about the guilt he feels. When Jimmy gets arrested, Stanley convinces Jimmy to let him saw off one of his deformed hands and sell it to get Jimmy a lawyer, only for Stanley to cut off both his hands and keep all the money from selling them to himself, leaving Jimmy imprisoned. When Maggie tells the freaks of Stanley's intention, the latter, greedy and self-serving to the end, cowardly tries to save his own life, outing Elsa as Ethel's murderer to try and redirect their hatred.
edited 8th May '18 9:26:29 AM by ACW
First off, just got back from Infinity War. Very good. All I'll say about Thanos is he continues the trend of great Phase 3 villains,
Richie. Trying to frame someone mitigates any mitigating factors.
Darkling.
Nirrti. Even among the 5 current entries for the franchise, a Mad Scientist type is a niche I don't think we have yet.
Super-American tree:
- Super-American:
- Tyrannus is an agent of an unnamed European dictatorship sent to destroy America from within. He raises an army to kidnap the President and force Congress to vote him in as absolute dictator on pain of death. As Super-American puts a stop to these plans, Tyrannus orders a Maryland town flooded. In order to pull off a successful escape, Tyrannus orders New York City destroyed by his army. Later, he's seen assisting his boss, Vultro, in ensuring his country can successfully invade the US. To prevent Super-American from interfering, Tyrannus orders a bombing raid on a munitions factory his nemesis is in, not caring that many of his men are in the same place. After that fails, Tyrannus tries to escape, killing a scientist he was working with in the process.
- Herr Largo is a Nazi agent in America tasked with stopping Super-American's meddling. Capturing one of his allies, Largo tortures him into giving up Super-American's home base, leaving the young man begging for death in his cell. He then invades the base, killing several soldiers and Super-American's scientist ally in the process. Knocking Super-American out with a special gas, Largo contacts the German army and orders a land invasion of New York City, massacring soldier and civilian alike. Donning Super-American's power suit, Largo flies into the fray, personally downing 23 airplanes.
Looks like Darkling's a yes. Attempt at a write-up—given the nature of the narration I'm going to address it in the post lest we be deluged by angry fangirls (the Draco in Leather Pants for this character is demonstrative of how often people can miss the point).
- The Grisha Trilogy: Alina would desperately like to believe that the Darkling has redeeming qualities and a reason for what he does, but in truth, he's just playing to what she wants to hear. A narcissist, stalker and abuser, Darkling exploits the emotional, psychological, and sexual vulnerabilities of Alina and the other Grisha, while blaming others for his own failings and for the violence he inflicts upon them. He sexually harasses and stalks Alina, blinds his mother for warning Alina about him, mutilates Genya for helping Alina escape, threatens to torture Mal and Alina in front of one another to ensure their cooperation, hunts down and kills Alina's only maternal figure, and erases an entire town from the map in a demonstration of his power. Aiming to destroy all nations besides Ravka, Darkling reveals that his goal is not to empower the Grisha, as he had claimed, but to rule the world in his own name with Alina as his enslaved, mentally broken bride.
How's that look? I figured the entry needed to address and refute his supposed redeeming features.
edited 7th May '18 10:28:09 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
It's actually not that surprising. Your average sixteen year old isn't real familiar with the Unreliable Narrator concept, and will struggle with it even after Alina points out that her belief he's redeemable cannot be trusted. Doesn't help that he's a subversion of an archetype that is normally meant to be sympathetic—he's essentially Edward Cullen or Christian Grey if the characters in the book had a sane reaction to them.
...I actually want read that work, he's eerily similar to a Big Bad Wannabe from a work that I'm writing.
And I like the Write Up a lot, it really does sells the point that he don't have redeeming traits yet he makes everyone that he have
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It seems short enough
edited 6th May '18 9:08:38 PM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my countryHere's my write-up for Seth Farrow. Let me know if there are any improvements that can be made:
- Scion: Seth Farrow is the second-in-command of a Scion band called the Shinsengumi. A son of the Egyptian god Set, Seth is a sadistic man who joined the band because its leader, Kane Taoka, promised he could live the high life and have many chances to indulge his sadism. He's one of the only band members who knows Kane is actually taking orders from the Titan Mikaboshi and is more than willing to kill the other band members if they ever find out and become a liability. When the Shinsengumi disbands after Kane's defeat, he pretends to profess loyalty to the Egyptian gods, but plans to either reunite with Kane if the latter ever reappears, or to sneak away and use his divine powers to create a personal kingdom where he can terrorize and murder anyone he wishes without fearing any consequences.
Apologies if it's too long.
edited 6th May '18 9:07:07 PM by dragonfire5000
"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."Write up time:
- Meeting Evil: Richie is an Ax-Crazy assassin who shows up at John's door after his car is stalled, upon John giving him a push, the two pull over at a convencice store where Richie gets into a confrontation with the manager, that ends with him killing everyone inside. When a phone dealership clerk refuses to let him and John use the store phones he decides to give her a piece of his mind (ie: killing her) and runs over her husband. When they find a seemingly abandoned home Richie kills the old lady inside as well as her grandson. He kills a sheriff and takes his car and uniform. Upon entering a diner he kills the waitress as well as a navy veteran. He makes it clear that he is quite willing to kill John's family. Despite claiming John to be his "friend" even refusing to kill him like he was hired to because of such he only cares about him in the sense that he sees potential in molding him to be as psychotic as him and has no problem having [[Frameup John take the fall for his crimes]].
edited 6th May '18 9:55:58 PM by username2527
Off Topic but Well, I'm writing two. One is Theology: The Axis Mundi and it's about how All Myths Are True. Is basically a Shin Megami Tensei fanfic in all but name.
The other is a literal Shin Megami Tensei fanfic.
The latter does have a villain that I would like to discuss here, but until is over, nothing to see here.
(my friend is going to post the EP, I'm aware of the rules of the thread and I respect them, he's basically my main reviewer)
edited 6th May '18 10:11:44 PM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my countryAnd now- now that I've had time to go back through it- back to our old friend the Star Trek Novel Verse!
What is the work?
The Q Continuum is a trilogy of novels by Greg Cox in which Picard and the Enterprise are selected to aid an experiment in breaching the energy barrier surrounding the galaxy. As the test is about to get underway, however, Jean-Luc's nigh-omnipotent frenemy Q arrives and tries to talk them out of it, and when that fails, he transports the captain away altogether, to show him directly that there are some things far better kept on the other side of a wall….
Who is he? What has he done?
0 is an entity similar to the Q who a young Q encountered eons ago (witnessed in real-time by the present Q and Picard Christmas Past-style), after passing through the Guardian of Forever portal (as seen in the original series- there are a lot of continuity nods in this story) to a random, desolate destination in the hope of somehow finding something new and different. 0- hobbled by an inability to travel at greater than light speed, or a limp in the rendering of the scene for Picard's mortal eyes- almost immediately goaded Q, who was rather awestruck by his charisma and roguish air, into "taking a chance" by bringing him back through the portal and subsequently to the Q Continuum, which functioned as a kind of shortcut between all of space-time.
0 introduces Q to the pastime of testing "lesser" species to gauge their worthiness of someday ascending to their own level, and when asked, Q takes them to a gaseous hivemind called the Coulalakritous- better known in the present as the Calamarain. The pair disguise themselves and merge with the cloud, before 0 then physically restrains them and harnesses them- who had been shown as a highly intelligent and philosophical species- to travel at the warp speeds he cannot reach on his own. The Coulalakritous collectively manage to break from his control (and expel Q), so 0 lividly accuses them of "cheating" and compresses them into an insensate ball of ice, not stopping until Q himself gets in the way of the attack (present Q speculates 0 would otherwise have kept going until they ignited into a supernova or formed a black hole). 0 rages at Q for a moment before regaining his composure and claiming to apologize for the outburst- still claiming that his other actions were necessary discipline for the Coulalakrituous, while brushing off Q’s questions as to what exactly they did wrong. The pair return to the Guardian of Forever, where 0 summons a few other entities- referred to as Gorgan (yes, that Gorgan), (*), and The One- to supposedly help make up for 0 being out of practice and Q's inexperience. When Q expresses unease at the new arrivals, 0 again goads him about going back on his desires for the "unknown". 0 asks about any other less evolved subjects to test, and Q suggests the Tkon Empire, a multi-planetary civilization surrounding a dying star, which they are attempting to teleport out in favor of a younger one.
After letting Q try his hand with a rain of fruit- and dismissing his idea of extending the life of the Tkon's sun to see how they would take advantage of their extra time- 0 has the others proceed. Gorgan influences the younger generations on outlying worlds to protest against the "waste" of the Great Endeavor of the sun switch, eventually sparking a civil war. (*) prolongs the fighting while feeding off the combatants' hatred, and The One inflicts "natural" disasters on the planets. After nearly 80 years of this, the Tkon empress somehow receives visions hinting at the entities' manipulations and manages a truce, to Q's awe- but not that of the others. At the moment the Tkon finally activate the Great Endeavor, 0 himself reaches into the star- as a horrified Q is held back by the others- and speeds up its expansion, wiping out the seven trillion Tkon in an instant. 0 claims that changing things up at the last minute was necessary to fully test the Tkon, and that the result was just a risk mortal beings had to live with, but when Q demands to know if any species besides the Coulalakritous have ever survived one of his "tests"?
In the present, after a civil war among the Q causes weaknesses in the galactic barrier, 0 is able to touch the mind of dying scientist Lem Faal and promise him immortality, and Faal convinces Starfleet and the Enterprise to aid his experiment of opening a wormhole through the galactic barrier. When the Enterprise is forced to hide within the barrier from the Calamarain, who have been attempting to destroy it during Picard's absence to prevent 0's release, 0 manages to largely possess Faal and activate a wormhole long enough for 0 himself to manifest on the ship. Confronting the returned Q and Picard, and displaying even more unrestrained power and insanity after his long absence, he hijacks the ship while slowly strangling the helmsman to death, setting a course for the Great Barrier at the center of the galaxy, apparently to free The One.
0 starts a game of hunting Q throughout the ship, eventually cornering him in a holodeck recreation of the frozen wasteland in which they met, with Picard, a security officer and a member of the Calamarain (with which Picard had negotiated a truce) transporting there shortly thereafter. 0 nearly kills Q and refreezes the Calamarain, but the officer is able to free them with sustained phaser fire, though not before 0 overloads her rifle, causing it to explode and kill her. Q and the Calamarain then merge into one entity and are able to defeat 0, before banishing him again and ensuring the barriers are restored.
Heinousness?
0 sets the standard for the trilogy as the Big Bad. Destroying the Tkon alone vaults him over the baseline, and between that, the Coulalakritous and references he makes to previous "tests", a pattern is displayed. For Star Trek, I will admit to not having seen every single episode or book, but I’m pretty sure there aren’t a lot of godlike entities who have gone around wiping out entire species and civilizations for uncounted eons For the Evulz.
Mitigating factors?
First of all, yes, it’s a plot point that 0's time stranded outside the galaxy, and apparently Q turning on him before that, drove him literally insane. It doesn't come across as having affected him morally or rationally; he mostly rants and alliterates a lot more and is apparently just ignorant enough of the laws of reality to become even more powerful. And even if it did mitigate his present day actions, it certainly doesn’t apply to his past actions. Similarly, 0 seems to regard it as his right to do as he pleases with "lesser" beings, but he can at least acknowledge their sapience and other beings on his level disapprove of those actions, so I don't think Blue-and-Orange Morality applies. His "testing" excuse is shown as bullshit, with him declaring that anyone that passes cheated and changing the rules to harm them even more. As present Q puts it when asked about the Tkon, "That was no test, that was a blood sport."
There’s also 0's relationship with his associates. He's polite enough to young Q most of the time, but he's visibly manipulating Q and stringing him along to make use of his transportation and knowledge of the dimension, and is rather threatening towards Q whenever he seems to be wavering. He does give Q a look of "anguished betrayal" when Q finally turns on him, but considering everything else up to that point it doesn't feel like he cared for Q at all, just that he's upset that his pawn stopped obeying. Similarly, he's generally cordial with the rest of the gang, even addressing Gorgan as "my old friend" when the latter first appears, but they mostly just come across as henchmen (who are also briefly shown as afraid of 0's temper). When 0 battles a Continuum member, the text notes that they both "paused barely an instant" to acknowledge The One’s dismemberment (and he never even mentions the other two again), and we don't even know why he tries to free The One- he makes a brief remark about "people to free" and then Picard figures out the rest from the ship's heading. The brief segments from 0's POV dwell on his obsession with getting back inside the barrier and taking revenge on Q, not saying anything about The One- which probably says it all, really.
Verdict?

Yea on Nirrti,Richie and Darkling
edited 6th May '18 3:08:48 PM by ElfenLiedFan90
"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."