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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88676: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:24:30 AM

[tup] One and Shadow.

For those curious: Here is that scene with Barracuda.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88677: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:26:44 AM

Yeah, he immediately just goes "no Hemo means no money"...then seconds later, just grins and goes "Well, glass half full, half empty!" before deciding to enjoy the sunset and cannibalize Miranda

DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#88678: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:38:19 AM

@Ambar: Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that Angel Eyes had more resources than the other two. I meant that being in the camp gave him more resources than he had initially. He was just a lone gunman at first, but at the camp he had more manpower. Indio and Ramon still had more resources, they both had gangs behind them for the whole story whilst Angel Eyes only had them in that scene.

And I hope things get better on your end.

emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#88679: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:42:02 AM

Yes to One and Shadow

Welcome to the world of greatest media!
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88680: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:43:38 AM

Speaking of MAX, I know you've said that the elder Bulat killing people who desecrated his wife's grave is more of people messing with HIS thing, but what's with this weird scene from Cavella? Almost as if he's showing the old guy mercy.

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#88681: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:44:20 AM

Does he really cannibalize the woman in red?

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88682: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:45:07 AM

[up] He's committed cannibalism in the past, and he's the only one to make it back to civilization. I think you can draw the conclusion there.

It's a whim, not a genuine standard. Cavella rants later in Up Is Down Black Is White that he doesn't care about anyone or anything but himself.

I cannot describe how tired I am repeating the same arguments. Can you just assume that anything you can think of to nitpick in with Max has been covered?

edited 2nd Jul '17 11:45:41 AM by Lightysnake

MahStache from Old Jersey, not the bad new one Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#88683: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:46:27 AM

[tup] to One and Shadow. That movie sounds quite good.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88684: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:53:11 AM

[up][up] That's probably fair (although, in my defense, we hadn't covered Bullseye and Kingpin).

Camberf Since: Jan, 2012
#88685: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:53:43 AM

I have a potential candidate from King's Quest (2015).

Background:

King's Quest (2015) is a reboot/reimagining of the original series of games. Many characters show up who were in the originals, but many of them have certain aspects altered. It should therefore be taken as a separate continuity. The game is episodic, featuring 5 chapters and a short epilogue. In it, you play as King Graham at different points in his life from when he was a teenager up until he becomes an old man, and the whole thing is framed as a story that Graham tells to his granddaughter.

In the first chapter, Graham, along with several knights, compete for the privilege of an audience with the king, something which they hope will lead to them becoming royalty themselves. The other knights, whom Graham befriends, are the narcissistic Whisper, the small but clever Manny, the hulking Acorn and the non-English-speaking foreign archer Achaka.

Who is he? What does he do?:

Manny. AKA Manannan. AKA the Sphinx is a fine example of a From Nobody to Nightmare character who starts off as a lying, manipulative jerk and just gets worse and worse. Born a goblin, something you don't learn until chapter 3, Manny was switched at birth with a human child, and was raised by human parents. As his intellect grew, he learned to practice magic, and eventually started feeling superior to those around him. There was likely a time when he genuinely wanted to help his fellow goblins, but that was soon replaced with a desire to gain power for himself.

In chapter 1, Graham and Manny team up together, with Manny behaving friendly towards Graham, and also pointed Achaka towards a dragon's lair for one of the trials, knowing that Achaka would be unlikely to survive. When Achaka is killed, Manny keeps Graham in the game by making up a story about Achaka's village. Despite claiming that the two of them could work together to both get what they want, Manny reveals his true colors after Graham succeeds in defeating him in the final game of wits, and attacks Graham before running off.

In chapter 2, Manny is barely seen, but he does manipulate the goblins into kidnapping the other members of the kingdom and locking them underground to die of starvation. We also meet the human who was switched with Manny at birth, who Manny takes in at the end of the chapter.

In chapter 3, Graham climbs a tower where two girls are being held prisoner by the witch Hagatha. One of the girls, who are known as Vee and Neese, would become the wife of Graham depending on player's actions, while the other would be wounded by magic ice, something which would come back in chapter 4. We also meet Mordon/Mordack, the human 'brother' of Manny, who had been raised by goblins but now had become a powerful sorcerer in his own right.

In chapter 4, Manny, having decided that his brain had outgrown his goblin body, used a potion to take on a human form. In this form, he breaches the castle of King Graham and Queen Valanice, killing a guard whom Graham had befriended and kidnapping his son Alexander, whom he would keep for the next 17 years. He also renames Alexander, calling him Gwydion, which he sees as a 'fitting name for a slave'. Alexander eventually escapes and rejoins his family after years of abuse leads him to trick Manny into eating a cookie with a transformation spell on it which turns you into a cat. A while later, Graham's family travel back to where he and his wife met, and find it completely covered in ice. Through a series of transformation spells, Manny had turned into a sphinx, and the one of the two girls who got their hand wounded by the magic ice had become Icebella, an ice sorceress who doesn't remember anything and believes 'the Sphinx' to be her friend. Manny had manipulated Icebella into creating a sort of labyrinth with many puzzles. Anyone unable to solve the puzzles was killed by freezing, and we see dozens of these past adventurers all over the labyrinth. Eventually, Queen Valanice is able to reach her friend and remind her of who she is, but Manny immediately pounces on her and shatters her, killing her.

In the final chapter, Manny, having regained his human form, challenges Graham to a series of challenges to decide once and for all who is best. The final challenge consists of a table with two goblets, one of which contains a poison which apparently destroys you from the inside out, and in the center of the table is what seems to be a small portal showing a miniature version of Daventry. Manny makes Graham drink first, and when he chooses the non-poisoned one, Manny dumps out his goblet into the portal, attempting to destroy the entire kingdom. Graham catches the poison, saving the kingdom but dooming himself to die. Manny then drops all pretense and just attempts to beat the elderly Graham to death by throwing him around with his magic, but Mordack attempts to intervene after realizing that Graham had helped him in the past, to which Manny turns on him without a second thought, though Mordack is able to destroy a magical object which Manny needed to survive. Graham later dies in bed as a result of the poison.

Are there any mitigating factors?

Okay, so Manny is a goblin. I'm sure that this made growing up somewhat more difficult, but we never hear of any severe abuse or anything. As for how goblins in general are treated, it seems like they're mostly left alone in their caves. The game also seems to believe greatly in Nurture over Nature- Manny acts like a human because he was raised as a human, Mordack acted like a goblin because he was raised by goblins, and became a sorcerer because Manny raised him as one. I don't think that there's anything about his basic nature that disqualifies him. Graham says himself that he has no problem with goblins or spinxes or whatever, he has a problem with Manny.

He is definitely heinous by the standards of the story, and is in fact the only villain in the entire game to not redeem themselves or even befriend Graham. Mordack, the Goblin King, Hagatha, the other knights.. all of them end up on Graham's side. He's not a difficult person to get along with. Manny had every opportunity to work with Graham if he really wanted to help his species, but he only cared about petty revenge because his ego couldn't deal with Graham beating him. This is even something that Graham calls him out on.

As for loved ones.. He has no loved ones. We never hear about his parents, he turns on Icebella and Mordack immediately, and he doesn't give a shit about Alexander.

There are a few occasions when Manny isn't taken completely seriously, but those are only when he's powerless. At the end of the fourth chapter, he's turned back into a cat, so isn't a threat, and the characters don't take him seriously. I don't personally think this disqualifies him, but it's worth mentioning.

Conclusion:

If anyone else has played the game, feel free to way in, but I'm pretty sure he's a [tup].

edited 2nd Jul '17 12:00:12 PM by Camberf

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88686: Jul 2nd 2017 at 11:53:44 AM

I moved Descendants 2 into the Live Action Film section on the Discussion Dates page instead of the Live Action TV section.

Hope your finance gets better Ambar.

edited 2nd Jul '17 12:43:27 PM by futuremoviewriter

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#88687: Jul 2nd 2017 at 12:57:58 PM

[tup] Manny, Bomberman duo 2, Angel Eyes and New Barbarians duo.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88688: Jul 2nd 2017 at 1:09:13 PM

I just realized something even more horrifying about Ego: He let Meredith die admiring him and not knowing he was the one who killed her.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88689: Jul 2nd 2017 at 1:12:00 PM

That's nice, Future. What relevance did that have to anything at hand?

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88690: Jul 2nd 2017 at 1:13:09 PM

[up]Just something I thought of. Ultimately, her opinion of him was more important to him than his opinion of her.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88691: Jul 2nd 2017 at 1:14:06 PM

What relevance does that have to anything going on here? You've been told before how various non-sequitors and random thoughts don't need to be aired.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88692: Jul 2nd 2017 at 1:24:35 PM

[up]Ego gets brought up so frequently nowadays that I thought it was okay. I'm sorry.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88693: Jul 2nd 2017 at 1:59:20 PM

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  • The Witches Hammer: Madeline Renoir is a vampiric wizard out to summon the Souls of the Damned to bring Hell on Earth. Killing and turning a researcher's wife to introduce him to the supernatural, she enlists him to help her find the Malleus Maleficarium, which can summon the Souls to Earth. After finding the book, she has the British monster hunting organization massacred, leaving only Rebecca, who she intends to use as a Human Sacrifice for the ritual, as the Sole Survivor. As our heroes take the book to Madeline, she sends a bunch of vampire assassins to kill them and take the book, causing much collateral damage along the way. After her ritual is thwarted, Madeline declares that she'll just use the magic of the book to wreak mass destruction on Earth.
  • World Gone Wild (1987/1988): Father Derek Abernathy is a charismatic cult leader roaming the remains of the Earth to form a cult of personality for himself. His brutality only preceded by his shallow charm, Derek goes from community to community and decimates them all, raping the women and molding the children into his mindless followers. Derek cheerfully has his cult murder their way through Lost Wells whilst nonchalantly sipping a glass of water, molesting a women's young daughter before kidnapping, raping, and ultimately murdering the mother after she resists him, and fully intending to butcher the rest of the populace after he's warded off. Derek's methods of directly punishing those he perceives as enemies are even worse, as Derek castrates an unfortunate mercenary who tries to deal with him and leaves him tied up to slowly die of exposure in the desert. A narcissistic sociopath, Derek lives purely to slather his own ego with praise and glory whilst savagely murdering all those who don't worship him.
  • Attack of the Graveyard Ghouls: In life, Oswald Manse was a teenage criminal who terrorized the aptly named town of Highgrave with his brother Martin. The two started a fire that destroyed half the town and caused hundreds of casualties, condemning the souls of the victims to haunt the cemetery as "Graveyard Ghouls", unable to leave without taking someone else's body. Years later, when the protagonist, Spencer Kassimir, stumbles across the brothers' grave, Oswald, now a ghoul himself, hijacks his body, leaving Spencer a disembodied spirit. After adjusting to his new form, Manse goes on a violent rampage and begins setting fire to the neighborhood before trying to incinerate Spencer's body so he can move onto a stronger one, all while gloating how powerless the boy is to stop him. When Spencer thwarts him, Oswald reunites with his brother's ghoul, and the two try to murder Spencer's family with fire axes out of spite. An unrepentant maniac who took sheer thrill in the terror and destruction he spread, Oswald was reviled and feared even among his fellow ghouls.
  • Greatcoats series, by Sebastien de Castell:
    • Patriana, Duchess of Hervor, is a ruthless aristocrat who led the nobility into a brutal and bloody war to overthrow King Paelis for daring to attempt to reduce the privileges of nobility in favor of increasing the rights of the common people. Years later, Patriana schemes to gain more power by placing her daughter on the throne. When the hero, and former member of the Greatcoat order, Falcio val Mond, falls into Patriana's hands, Patriana reveals her penchant for cruel torture to "create monsters" as a general practice while also revealing she has turned a creature called a Fey Horse into a killing machine by torturing its children to death in front of it. To break Falcio further, she attempts to feed a young girl Falcio is protecting to the creature. It is later revealed Patriana's "daughter" is a fake and her true daughter is the girl's maidservant Trin. Upon revealing this, Patriana ruthlessly abuses the girl she's raised as her own for eighteen years, planning to control the throne no matter who she has to destroy.
    • Shuran is the Knight Commander of Aramor, sworn to protect Duke Isault and his family. Betraying his oath, Shuran murders Isault, his wife and children, as well as a former Greatcoat he frames for the crime. Secretly arming peasants to revolt against the nobility, Shuran then has his knights massacre them while plotting to foster discontent and civil war across the realm to seize more power for himself and eventually exterminate the entirety of the old aristocracy. Revealing himself as the son of the former Saint of Swords Caveil, Shuran desires to take the title from his father's killer, the Greatcoat Kest, to satisfy his own ego. To win, Shuran gleefully cheats, even deciding to torture Kest's friends and rape a thirteen-year-old girl to make sure Kest can't fight him with a clear head.
  • The Underland Chronicles: These two are responsible for Pearlpelt/the Bane being so bad:
    • Twirltongue is the true mastermind behind the Bane, and a vicious, manipulative xenophobe. Taking advantage of the Bane at a young age, Twirltongue uses her persuasion abilities to convince the unstable Bane that he will one day lead the Gnawers, with her as his adviser. Once setting the Bane up as king of an army of Gnawers, Twirltongue continues her manipulation and advising of the Bane, convincing him that every species that isn't a rat deserves to die, and to this end, the Bane's forces proceed to round up thousands of adult and children mice alike, then either force them to jump to their deaths by the hundreds, or shove them into horrific chambers and gas them by the thousands with volcanic ash. Twirltongue then has the Bane lead a full-scale war on Regalia, hoping to slaughter every man, woman, and child inside, then reign supreme over all other species of Underland.
    • Snare, despite his limited appearances, sticks out as the nastiest Gnawer in the story alongside Twirltongue. Once a general in the wicked King Gorger's army, thus facilitating the numerous atrocities committed by Gorger, Snare later gave birth to a litter of mice with his wife, Goldshard. Realizing that one of his newborn mice pups, Pearlpelt, is the legendary "Bane", a being prophesied to one day take over all of Underland, Snare promptly murders the rest of his litter to ensure Pearlpelt doesn't have to share his mother's milk with them. Snare takes to beating Pearlpelt and driving his hateful rhetoric into the baby, fully hoping to one day use his son to wage war on Regalia and ride the coattails to victory, and, when Goldshard finally has enough and tries to escape with Pearlpelt, Snare attempts to murder her in a blind rage. Though dead before Pearlpelt became the monstrous Bane, Snare fully facilitated his son's transformation into a psychotic monster, and would only laugh at the destruction he went on to inflict.
  • Colonel Herbert Fedenia, from the November 1990 issue ("St. Paradine's"), carves a uniquely depraved niche for himself even in spite of his status as a minor, one-shot villain. A seemingly-upstanding man who runs St. Paradine's, a military academy for children, Fedenia's true nature is revealed when Frank discovers Fedenia is a child pornographer who uses his unwilling cadets as his subjects, drugging them and having them brutalized on top of routinely having them raped. When one of the young cadets refuses to shoot Frank when he's ordered to, Fedenia simply attempts to murder the child himself.
  • Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do, by Kevin Smith et al.: "Mr. Brownstone", Garrison Klum, is a sociopathic drug dealer with a nasty drive to dominate all those he sees. Having murdered his own mother in youth when his ability to teleport liquids manifested, Garrison continuously molested and raped his own little brother, Francis, on a regular basis through childhood and into teen years. Once discovering that Francis too had powers, Garrison began combining their abilities in a huge scheme to make themselves rich by supplying drugs to the rich and powerful by teleporting the drugs directly into their bloodstream, thus eliminating any physical evidence of drug usage. Continuing to molest Francis at his leisure, Garrison also is known to regularly use his powers to inject paralyzing drugs into people, then rape them, with his main targets being young women and teenage boys. After avoiding an assassination attempt by a rival drug gang, Garrison injects drugs directly into their hearts, killing the entire gang plus the leader's wife with a smile on his face, and uses this same method to kill two customers of his to silence them. When his body count draws the attention of Black Cat, Garrison paralyzes her with drugs, then attempts to rape and murder her, and continue his rise to becoming the most powerful man in New York.
  • Nioh: Sir John Dee is the mastermind of the Amrita project, aiming to raise England to dominate the world with himself as its true puppet-ruler from the shadows. He creates Edward Kelley as a sentient, disposable weapon, and sends him to Japan with the intent of annihilating everything he can and killing countless people to harvest Amrita with the knowledge he can just create a new Kelley if the need arises. Torturing to death on a large scale those involved in the first stage of the Amrita project, he also has others abducted to brutally experiment on them in order to create new demons in order to harvest more Amrita.
  • Prisoner of Ice: Ernst Dietrich, the psychotic commander of the Schlossandler base, is both a ruthless Nazi and a would-be servant of the Great Old Ones. Seeking to possess the titular Prisoners of Ice and masterminding a plot to steal the Necronomicon, Dietrich has Lt. Ryan and his allies stalked, eventually capturing them himself. Subjecting Ryan's friends to torture and gleefully informing him his compatriot Diane is close to bending, Dietrich eventually reveals a machine capable of tearing through time and space itself; Dietrich tests it out by vaporizing a US spy on his premises. Dietrich finally reveals his intentions to summon the Great Old Ones themselves to Earth and reduce all of humanity to their slaves as he reigns as a god among mortal men, condemning everyone, his own men included, to die within Schlossandler. Even being hurled through time doesn't stop him, as Dietrich is last seen becoming the game's analogue to Nyarlathotep himself and enslaving the Aymaras in his bid to start his plan all over again.
  • Vexx: Dark Yabu and his Shadowraiths once invaded the planet of Astara, being repealed after a arduous battle with the resistance warriors. He returns 700 years later and this time enslaves the people of the Overwood village to work in the mines. Yabu kills the village guardian Vargas when he rises against him and keeps his soul trapped in an amulet, where he would feed on the old man's despair until he no longer existed. Later in the game, it is revealed that he is Darby, the seemingly-kind old man who helped Vexx on his quest; Yabu deceived Vexx so he would open the portal to the worlds to him. As Yabu overpowers Vexx and the last of the Astani, Reia, he reveals to them his ultimate plan: devouring the entire planet. Even after his defeat by Vexx, he vows that his hate would keep him active. Even though the game is not a lighthearted one, Yabu still stands out as an intimidating and unusually cruel creature.
  • SWAT Kats:
    • Dark Kat is one of the Swat Kats' most recurring, and wicked, villains. A complete madman obsessed with the death of the Swat Kats and the destruction of Megakat City, Dark Kat is introduced trying to use a nuclear weapon to annihilate Megakat City and its thousands of residents, attempting to force Lieutenant Feral to watch the carnage as it unfolds. Later attempting to turn the Swat Kats into ground meat while using their jet to frame them for opening fire on civilians and blowing up entire buildings, Dark Kat follows this up by convincing Razer he severely wounded innocents to throw him off his game while Dark Kat uses a robotic arachnid to attack and hopefully tear Megakat City to shreds. In his arguably worst outing, Dark Kat makes an alliance with the below-mentioned Dr. Viper, using him to rebuild the Metallikats then install chips in them that allow Dark Kat to torture them at his leisure. Using the Metallikats and Viper, Dark Kat lures the Swat Kats, Feral, and assistant mayor Callie Briggs into a trap to kill them all, ordering the Metallikats to kill Viper when he outlives his usefulness, and ultimately attempts to blow up the entire base as a last ditch effort to kill the Swat Kats, their friends, and all of Dark Kat's own allies in one fell swoop.
    • Dr. Viper was once Elrod Purvis, a greedy scientist whose plan to sell the Viper Mutagen to the highest bidder ended with his supposed death and subsequent mutation into the evil Viper. In his schemes to destroy Megakat City and replace it with a festering "Megaswamp City", Viper regularly attempts to mutate and murder all he can through his chemical weapons and monsters; painfully transforms one-shot villain Morbulus into a mindless bacteria creature that he looses on Megakat City, leading to dozens of deaths, including that of Viper's former colleague Zyme; attempts to drown the entire city in toxic spores; teams up with the aforementioned Dark Kat; and finally floods the city with mutative chemicals in a bid to mutate everyone within the city. Regularly murdering innocents in his attempted conquest and seeing beauty only in the fetid and festering, Dr. Viper was about as remorselessly evil as his sinister appearance would suggest.
    • Mutilor, from "When Strikes Mutilor", is a brutal mercenary who takes over a ship from a peaceful race called the Aquians and attacks Earth, planning to drain every drop of water from the world to sell it off, saying that if earth dies as a result, then that's just business. When the heroic SWAT Kats interfere, Mutilor tries to torture them to death with electricity, and when the ship is taken, Mutilor attempts to destroy it out of spite so that it crashes into Earth and causes a devastating catastrophe that could easily kill every cat on the planet.

edited 3rd Jul '17 2:46:03 PM by ACW

skteosk Since: Feb, 2011
#88694: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:04:50 PM

Okay, I've counted 3 [tup] for Sara and a few unsure. Anyone else want to pitch in?

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#88695: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:08:32 PM

Yea to One and Shadow. Knock it off with the irrelevant comments, Future. This is becoming unbearably annoying from you.

Oh, and ACW? Make a distinction between Viper's actions with Morbulus and drowning the city in toxic spores. Those are two entirely separate plots from entirely separate episodes.

edited 2nd Jul '17 2:10:53 PM by Scraggle

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88696: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:17:26 PM

[up] Alright, let me know how it looks now. BTW, is Big Bad appropriate for Dark Kat?

edited 2nd Jul '17 2:21:13 PM by ACW

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#88697: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:20:26 PM

Looks good now. Remove the Big Bad pothole from Dark Kat as he's part of an ensemble... do the same with Dietrich as he's in a duumvirate with Narackamous.

edited 2nd Jul '17 2:25:11 PM by Scraggle

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88698: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:30:07 PM

And done. I used Diabolical Mastermind for Dark Kat, and am currently without a pothole for Dietrich (Humans Are the Real Monsters?).

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#88699: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:32:59 PM

Eh, don't bother. Potholes aren't really an absolute necessity.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#88700: Jul 2nd 2017 at 2:40:36 PM

Alright. Does the Diabolical Mastermind one work?

[down][tup]

edited 2nd Jul '17 2:47:55 PM by ACW


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