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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#88026: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:14:30 PM

Go for the effortpost, please.

Shadow?
Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#88027: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:21:25 PM

I'm pretty sure Film!Sentinel Prime was a Well-Intentioned Extremist who didn't negate his mitigating factors. There was a point where he could've killed Optimus Prime before the whole Chicago climax but chose to spare him.

Honestly, I plan on rewatching all four Transformers films before I see the fifth one on Thursday, so I can easily fill anyone in on whether or not anyone else from the film series counts.

edited 25th Jun '17 9:27:49 PM by Tyk5919

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88028: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:30:58 PM

Dylan in the movie didn't seem to want the job he was given anyway and was it seems a reluctant participant. Not an excuse since he still did it all. I don't agree with cutting him, but I'll drop it though because I'm tired and I don't want to cause trouble.

After how disappointing Revenge of the Fallen was, Dark of the Moon (not the first hour though) was a vast improvement and the villains (especially Dylan) were my favorite part of it. I rank them 1, 4, 5, 3, 2.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88029: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:36:01 PM

I'd need to see that bit on Sentinel and Optimus. Honestly, I was convinced by the end he'd forsaken his redeeming qualities. He's willing to murder the Autobots, and has become little but a genocidal tyrant who wants to reclaim the status he used to have. "We were gods once, but here there can be only one!"

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88030: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:38:24 PM

Anyways...the proposal I promised Lord Yam! This is from...CONAN!

You all know or should now this. It's Conan the Cimmerian, the wandering warrior who quests from his homeland, ending up in countless adventures until he succeeds in becoming the king of the greatest kingdom in the world...this will focus on the ongoing Dark Horse series:..and also involves events from earlier in the continuity...we'll be talking of...Hek-La, the Hate Witch, Vammitar...the Bone Woman.

Who's The Bone Woman And What Does She Do?

The Bone Woman is an ancient being, a creature from the time before man. Long ago, she was a queen of an ancient civilization, who gloried in her power. When mankind formed, she and her race fed on them, thinking them irrelevant...but mankind bred quickly and learned to fight back against them, driving the monstrous races to extinction or into hiding. Furious at the loss of her power, the queen withdrew and began to plot for the day she'd wreak her vengeance....

Taking many, many guises and names, she became known as Hek-La the Hate Witch to the ancient Atlantean barbarians. When a tribe of Atlanteans settled in a valley she called her home, the Bone Woman caused a flood to kill them all. The only survivor was a little boy named Kull, whose mother, even as she drowned, used her last strength to hold him above her. Kull lived in the wilderness for years, and was marked by the Bone woman as a future enemy. Years later, Kull became king of the mighty land of Valusia, when the Bone Woman reappeared as the Hate Witch, murdering Valusian nobles and inspiring bloody riots. Kull pursued her to the old lands of Atlantis, finding his old tribe...the Bone Woman inspired the slaughters of Kull's allies, mentally dominated his old friend Am-Ra to try to kill him and his companions and tried to sway Kull into returning to Valusia, purging the nobility and leading a bloody purge across the world as a brutal tyrant. Kull resisted and beheaded her....unfortunately, the Bone Woman doesn't die so easily.

Fast forward millennia...Kull has passed from living memory to the point where even the legends are forgotten...the Bone Woman is known as a sorceress occasionally. A young noblewoman named Janissa longing for freedom and adventure, went to the Bone Woman and begged for her to make her strong. The Bone Woman offered training and strength...but in return Janissa would have to serve for her a time equal to twice the length of her training. Janissa agreed...and found herself in a cave with a sword. she was then set upon by a demon, and raped brutally. The Bone woman greeted her the next day, gave her food, healed her wounds...and said to think on her mistakes, for that night, there'd be two. And the next night three. And so on and so forth. The Bone Woman had her train and heal during the day, every night bringing more demons to endlessly brutalize her....until finally Janissa grew strong enough to kill every demon sent in a single night. She served the Bone woman as an assassin and messenger ever since.

Now, the Bone Woman ends up using Janissa to guard the priest Kalanthes, of Ibis, menaced by fellow monster Thoth-amon, for her own purposes. When she encounters Conan she makes him an offer as well...and even offers him Janissa, much to Conan's disgust. Janissa later turns on the Bone Woman, decapitating her and roaming the land as a hired killer until she finds her true purpose: liberating enslaved women, starting with a young lady named Sanna. Encountering Conan years later, Sanna and Janissa end up killing a group of monks in a temple...

Only for Conan's girlfriend Natala to reveal that the person Janissa's been talking to the whole time as Sanna...is nothing but empty air. Yep, the Bone Woman's been playing her the whole time, getting her to massacre the monks by thinking they're bad guys, as they were stopping her from summoning a Great Old One (Conan and HP Lovecraft's stuff takes place in the same 'verse, btw. Your mind blown?) to ravage the earth for her to control. Conan and team manage to thwart her and Janissa kills her teacher once again...

Now, in her final appearance, the Bone Woman appears to King conan as a disgraced sorceress, using two enslaved young women with the power to walk dreamscapes to appear to Conan as his dead lover Belit, making him think her spirit isn't at peace to force him to journey back to where she died. Abusing her two servants, the Bone Woman executes one when they try rebelling and kills the other when she's of no further use. Oh, and when the natives of the area fight back, she uses a spell to boil their blood in their veins. Conan and team make it to the ancient temples where Conan recovers 'the blood of the world', which he's been told can calm Belit's restless ghost...only for the Bone Woman to take it and drink it, having needed Conan to retrieve it as the place is warded against her, turning her into an Eldritch horror who proclaims she'll bring back a new age of nightmare darkness (her words)...she tries to seduce Conan and have him as a consort, killing his loyal soldier when he refuses. Conan, having placed the blood of the world on his sword, fights back and, with this being one of the Bone Woman's weakness, impales her through the skull, killing her for good and all.

Heinous Standard?

Way over the baseline and even the comparatively high standard for Conan. She stands right alongside genocidal monsters like Ra-Sidh, and evil tyrants like Thoth-Amon and Queen Salome. The Bone Woman has massacred tons of people, manipulated countless others, and has a huge amount of atrocities to her name with the end result to bring back the kings of old and rule the land like a goddess while humanity dies. Oh, and unleashing a Great Old One on the earth?

Mitigating Qualities or Freudian Excuse?

She's pissed man rose up and destroyed her race long ago, but she bring sup she's only mad that she lost her power as a queen and had to go into hiding. Her only concern is her own power in that respect. Besides that...no, she doesn't care about anyone or anything.

Nonhuman races also have full agency in Conan (well, the sentient ones at any rate). Even Gods do, so this's no excuse for her. She's also way more evil than the variety of nonhuman creatures here.

Her word to her servants is also revealed to be utterly useless. She's willing to violate the spirit, if not the letter, and will kill them the second they stop being useful. Janissa only surviving years of her beside her because she was still a useful tool. Overall, it's a bit of a shame she appears so seldom: she's got thousands and thousands of years of evil deeds of which we only see a tiny peek at, and about a zillion plans going that likewise.

Conclusion?

Keeper.

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#88031: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:38:28 PM

[up][up] Again, I plan on watching all four films again. Give me a couple days so I can clarify everything.

edited 25th Jun '17 9:39:22 PM by Tyk5919

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Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#88032: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:40:08 PM

An easy yea to the Bone Woman there. Impressively clears the standard even for a world like Conan.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88033: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:43:30 PM

My concession is recanted. I want to follow this up again, but I will not do it now.

I may want to reorder to 1, 4, 3, 5, 2. We'll see.

edited 26th Jun '17 2:30:45 PM by futuremoviewriter

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#88034: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:44:09 PM

[tup] The Bone Woman. Vammatar is an actual mythological figure btw. Finnish goddess of pain. Yes, goddess. Of pain.

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#88035: Jun 25th 2017 at 10:01:07 PM

Also [tup] The Bone Woman.

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
FriedWarthog Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#88037: Jun 25th 2017 at 10:35:12 PM

[tup] Bone Woman.

One thing that always stood out. When she makes her pitch and Conan refuses she just repeats the offer, almost like she can't believe he snubbed her. After Conan does so again she gets nasty and drops the act. It's only after the third time she withdraws. She also implies to Janissa that the demons that raped her were generated by her own mind....meaning that the entire thing may have been a twisted mindfuck on her part.

But Yeah Bone Woman is NASTY! I rather liked how she was tied to Kull (there were other prehuman races).

I've also updated Ra Sidh

edited 25th Jun '17 10:45:28 PM by LordYAM

MahStache from Old Jersey, not the bad new one Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#88038: Jun 25th 2017 at 11:21:42 PM

[tup] to the Bone Woman. Once again, what kind of name is Bone Woman?! I could make a dirty joke out of that but I won't.

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#88039: Jun 25th 2017 at 11:49:26 PM

Next proposal time. With full credit to Lighty to helping me find this one and my thanks to him for letting me take it, let's get into a good one...

What's the setting?

World Gone Wild is a post-apocalyptic film headed by Bruce Dern and Michael Pare that came right at the tail of the 80s post-apocalypse craze (you know, stuff like Road Warrior). Focusing around a small outpost in a world starved of water due to a great nuclear war, Dern plays a quirky but wise old man named Ethan, an ex-criminal and surrogate father to outlaw George Landon (Michael Pare) who defends the little place, which just so happens to have the largest supply of water within the desert wasteland. The people of Lost Wells are a generally peaceful lot, so when a bunch of young men headed by a charismatic British leader named Derek Abernathy — played by none other than Adam Ant — come into their borders, they naturally accept them with open arms.

Then the bullets start flying.

Who is Derek? What has he done?

Yes, Adam Ant plays the villain in this picture. Father Derek Abernathy, to his own little cult of personality, is the scourge of the post-apocalyptic world, a Faux Affably Evil psychopath wrapped up in white and complete with a gentle little English accent that accentuates his evil. Uniquely for a movie of this type, Derek isn't actually interested in the water in the slightest... Derek's modus operandi is to travel from settlement to settlement and then allow his cultists to rape and murder their way through the communities, massacring the majority of them and taking the remaining children and women. The former are forcefully indoctrinated into Derek's unfeeling, fanatical followers who live and die for him at a second thought, and the latter are used for Derek's pleasure. When Derek arrives in Lost Wells, he initially greets everyone warmly and tells them of his desire to build a place of truth and love... before casually murdering a man who offers him a glass of water and ordering his minions to slaughter everyone in sight whilst drinking his water. Once half of the settlement is razed and dozens are killed, Derek forces himself on a woman who tries to stop him, stripping her down and molesting her and only stopping when her young daughter (and I mean like seven or eight) confronts him. Derek makes out with the woman's daughter right in front of her before he's finally stopped by Ethan himself. Derek decides to leave for the meantime, reluctantly letting a hostage go when Ethan puts him up at gunpoint and telling Ethan he will return... and he wants both Ethan and Lost Wells' women, taking the woman he stripped down and a few other prisoners in the meantime.

Of course, Ethan knows Derek's bargain is a load of shit anyways and that Derek intends to return and massacre everyone left himself. In the meanwhile, we cut to Derek's bizarre little ceremonies, where he preaches the word of Charles friggin' Manson to his followers and has them worship him. A perverted mercenary comes to Derek in the middle of one of these sessions and tries to join up with him as a partner. Derek's response is to have the man carried away by his followers and castrated, tied up and left in the middle of the desert to slowly perish of exposure. Derek eventually makes good on his word and comes back to Lost Wells, which is now guarded by Ethan, George, and a whole bunch of their associates. Derek's also wearing an eyepatch about now, and the reason why is quickly revealed... Derek coldly dumps the body of the woman he kidnapped and raped before Ethan and George, with both of her eyes cut out.

The battle ensues and Derek finds himself woefully unprepared for the attack, sending both him and his followers scurrying. Quite unfortunately, though, Derek decides it's not over yet and returns in the middle of the night, lobbing bombs at the camp and riding in with a tank to furiously torch and murder everything in revenge. Derek confronts one of George's allies and tortures him in an attempt to locate George, but George comes to him first. The final battle between the two ensues, and... well, George doesn't kill Derek. One of George's allies, a smug, stupid, cowardly cowboy named Exline who has a tendency to drink garbage and lube, lights himself on fire and tackles Derek to the ground whilst maniacally cackling, burning them both to death.

Couldn't have thought of a better death if I tried, honestly.

Any mitigating factors?

No. Derek's doesn't care a whit for his own mindless followers and even the creed he spouts at the beginning of the film is revealed to be hollow lies in his very first scene, as Derek gleefully says upon being confronted by Ethan "I guess I'm not the only one here full of bullshit, huh?" He's a solid mile over the heinous standard, with countless acts of horrible mass murder, rape, torture, and the forced indoctrination of countless children and young men into his slavishly devoted followers.

Conclusion?

Damn easy keep. Adam Ant was a lot of fun in this film.

Thoughts?

edited 25th Jun '17 11:50:15 PM by Scraggle

ReynTime250 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#88040: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:37:55 AM

Alright Little Witch Academia is now over. PM me about candidates.

Also that finale was fucking awesome.

edited 26th Jun '17 1:41:20 AM by ReynTime250

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#88041: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:56:43 AM

[tup] Tarrant, Derek, Dylan and the Hate Witch.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
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#88043: Jun 26th 2017 at 3:04:06 AM

[tup] Bone Woman and Abernathy.

So I watched/listened to a five part Audio Drama on You Tube called "The Rake vs Dogman" two weeks back (as luck would have it, the final chapter was released the day I started listening to it). It is a creepypasta story written by Tim Sonski that of course pits the Creepypasta figure known as the Rake against the cryptid/urban legend the Dogman (although either creatures are not referred to by those names, rather they are called The Creeper, and the Wolves respectively). Sonski is a pretty decent writer from what I've seen in his stories, and this story can get pretty emotional at times, and Actually Pretty Funny at other times. Tim Sonski's got this Stephen King esque writing style when it comes to establishing and developing characters, as well as attention to detail.

The stories got some decently developed characters to it and the plot initially focuses on step sibling bounty hunter duo Travis and Meredith (she prefers to go by Murray, who's become one of my new favourite horror/web protagonists, something I never thought I'd say about a creepypasta character) who investigate a creature (the Rake) that's been sighted and has a price on its head. In the meantime there's a pack of werewolf like creatures (the dogmen) causing trouble in the woods and county as well, with two lost campers, the police and a wounded farm boy get caught in the mix.

And then we get our human antagonist, Deputy Nathaniel Dixon (or as Murray calls him Dickless).

Who is Dixon ? What does he do ?

Nathaniel Dixon is a seriously Dirty Cop who seems to be an unapologetic prick on the outside, but is also quickly established to be an cold blooded and vicious psychopath. We learn some history about him in which he killed two men at nineteen with a hatchet, but wasn't charged as it was declared self defence. Since then however, four women tried to press charges against him for assault, and ever since he got the badge, he killed three unarmed men. All these where swept under the rug.

Prior to the story, in a flashback back in 2014, Dixon is at a bar where he notices a pretty young thing in our protagonist Murray, an unlicensed but effective bounty hunter. After trying to put the moves on her, Dixon gets annoyed by her rejection and her attitude problem. Murray isn't looking for a hookup, since this is the anniversary of her mother's death, but Dixon comes up with a plan to lead her out of the bar with a gun to her back, where he has duck tape and chloroform waiting for her. After an argument between the two, during which he mocks the death of her mother, Murray hits him with her mug and bashes him in the head until he is knocked out and his eye permanently damaged.

Murray is bailed out by her brother Travis, and Dixon is embittered by this. Holding a grudge against her, he sends his partner Tara to find out all the information she can about her. After gathering said information, Dixon asks Tara to use whatever connections she has to bring Murray to him. Tara laughs at this, saying she has no connections and she plans on retiring and moving the Mexico the next day. After seemingly calming down, Dixon offers her a place to stay, seemingly seducing her. When he takes her down the hall, he shoots her and drags her down to his basement, where he converted it into a torture cellar. He tells Tara he will find Murray on his own, but for now he's gonna use Tara to see if his torture cellar is sound proof...

When introduced in the story, Dixon is leaving a hotel after "interrogating" an informant of his (a prostitute he left naked, unconscious and handcuffed to a bed with the keys being thrown across the room). And as a cat lover, this part was hard for me to listen too; Dixon corners a fifteen year old boy behind a gas station, torturing a small animal, a kitten specifically by cutting off its limbs. Rather then scold or arrest the boy or anything, Dixon has him continue mutilating the kitten, the narration making it clear the kitten is alive and extreme pain. Just when Dixon is about to put it out do its misery, his radio goes off and he decides duty calls, and instead flings the barley alive kitten into a garbage bin.

Dixon meets up with two other cops, Barclay, and the rookie Henry Keller. Earlier in the story, these two farm boy brothers went out hunting for whatever killed their horses. They are picked off, but one of the brothers, Jason survives. Dixon, Barclay and Keller go looking for them in the woods. Meanwhile, Murray and her step brother Travis are hunting down the Rake, with Travis ultimately finding a wounded Jason, and Murray finding to friends Janine and Holly, out camping. When they find them being stalked by the wolves, Murray stays at the camp with the others, while Travis heads off to find their dog Karma. At the same time, Dixon, Barclay and Keller arrive on the scene, with Dixon and Murray recognizing each other immediately. This encounter is cut short when Travis is killed in a confrontation with a pack of these wolves, and the others are forced to flee on a truck with the pack in pursuit. While Dixon, Murray and Barclay attempt to fight them off from the back of the truck, Dixon is down to one bullet, and decides to use that bullet to shoot Barclay in the stomach and throw him off the truck to the pack. Dixon knocks Murray out with the butt of his gun.

Murray awakens to find the truck has died, with Dixon and Keller scouting ahead to find some help. It turns out Dixon still holds a grudge against Murray and decided to arrest her. When Dixon and Keller return, Murray starts arguing with Dixon about letting her out of the cuffs as they have a better chance of survival and she wants to protect Janine and Holly. Dixon makes it clear that he's making her "arrest" his top priority, placing himself in charge of their group and threatening to leave the girls to die to keep Murray in line. They head to a ranger station that Keller and Dixon found, with Dixon unwilling to let her out of her cuffs, saying if he's gonna die that night he will take her with him. They gather supplies to help fight of the pack should they follow them.

After the inevitable bloody battle with the pack, everyone surprisingly survives with several wolves dead. Later, Dixon heads out to scout ahead, and Keller lets Murray out of the cuffs so she could use the bathroom. After some Ship Tease between them, Murray reveals to Keller that Dixon killed Barclay (Keller didn't realize as he was driving the truck at the time, as far as he knew, Barclay just fell off). Dixon returns and an argument breaks out, with everyone confronting him about what he did. Keller prepares to arrest Dixon, when suddenly the creeper bursts from the floor and drags Keller to his death. Dixon reaches after Keller to grab his gun and immediately uses it to shoot Janine, killing her. A fight breaks out, between Dixon and Murray, with Dixon saying he doesn't plan on killing her as he has plans for her. He does however want retribution for his eye and prepares to cut it out, but Holly sneaks behind him with a taser and kicking him when he's down until he is unconscious.

Murray and Holly make their way back to the original camp sight, but are stopped when they encounter the creeper, and witness it fight one of the wolves, with the creeper coming out on top before leaving to lick it's wounds. It turns out Dixon caught up with them, and is hooked Holly at gun point. Murray tells him to let Holly go and just shoot her, which Dixon does, knocking Murray out.

Murray awakens back at the ranger station, half naked with a bandage over her bullet wound. Turns out the bullet was from a salt rock. Murray finds a barley alive Jason and a battered Holly with her, and they end up having to amputate Jason's infected leg. Dixon meanwhile tries to make radio contact at a nearby tower, but realizing help won't likely come and the wolves are still out there, he decides to cut his losses and drag Murray away himself, leaving Holly and Jason to their fate. In the following confrontation, Jason, deciding he's as good as dead already, pulls a gun on Dixon and shoots him in the chest allowing Murray and Holly to make a getaway.

While Murray and Holly run through the woods, they are stalked by the creeper and drive it off after a fight which attracts the attention of the wolves. Dixon wakes up and goes into the woods after them (but not before torturing Jason with a pair of bolt cutters and leaving him to be killed by the pack), but ends up running into Murray's dog Karma, and realizing who Karma belongs too, decides to shoot at the dog.

After Murray and Holly make it to the original campsite to get their weapons and fight the pack off, when they hear rescue helicopters approaching. As they try to get the copters attention, they are eventually confronted by Dixon, and a brief gunfight ensues before they run out of ammo. Murray finally decides to fight Dixon one on one, and manages to deliver a beat down that was a long time coming. Using a pair of brass knuckles, Murray manages to blind Dixon's other eye, and once he's beaten down, shoots him in the kneecaps with a shotgun, leaving him to bleed to death blind and alone. Shortly after Murray and Holly leave him, the pack finds Dixon and proceeds to tear him limb from limb and eat him alive, with Dixon helpless to do anything about it. According to the narration, they did not bite or claw him anywhere that would've killed him instantly.

With Dickless out of the way, Murray helps Holly reach one the helicopters by drawing the attention of the pack with the help of Karma. They find themselves in a cavern where the are cornered by not only the pack, but the hulking Alpha as well as multiple creepers. The two groups of monsters fight, but while Murray and Karma make their escape, the Alpha chases them down at a cliff. After a brief stand off, both the Alpha and Murray fall into the river bellow, with the Alpha being impaled on sharp rocks at the bottom. In the epilogue, Holly manages to testify about what happened after being hospitalized, with Dixon's crimes being posthumously exposed, and at the very end its revealed Murray survived and goes on to be reunited with her stepfather.

Redeeming Qualities or a Freudian Excuse and Heinous Standard ?

None really. He's a vicious prick throughout the story, letting the reader/listener know that he's a psychopath, even when he's being benign about it. When he's not being a total jackass, he is completely remorseless and cruel about the crimes he commits. He is openly hateful and talking down towards nearly everyone he meets, and thinks nothing of killing and/or torturing them, casually shooting Barclay and literally throwing him to the wolves, and seemingly tries to save Keller, only for it to turn out he was stealing his gun which he immediately uses to kill Janine with no hesitation. Even in his Establishing Character Moment has him encouraging a kid to torture and mutilate a kitten, briefly consider mercy killing it before deciding not to do so. What a guy, right ?

It's is shown in flashbacks that he doesn't like being disrespected, especially as a cop and he's annoyed at the reputation of cops following the Ferguson shooting in 2014. Of course this mostly has to do with himself, as he doesn't like people staring daggers at him as a cop and pretty much amounts to him not getting lucky if people at the bars he frequents know he's a cop. This becomes especially ironic considering he is the epitome of corrupt cop stereotypes that sprung up following the Ferguson shooting, seeing has he's got assault charges and shot some unarmed men in the past that got swept under the rug.

It's also shown in flashbacks he had a partner named Tara, whom he had some semblance of a friendship with, and we discover she's not exactly an honest cop herself, as they where covering up each others messes when they worked together, and even mentions Dixon took bullets for her and helped save her life in the past. In that same flashback, when he asks Tara to help with his vendetta against Murray, she refuses as she doesn't have the connections he thinks she has, and that she's retiring and moving to Mexico. His response is to pretend to seduce Tara before shooting her and taking her to his torture chamber to kill her; if she wasn't gonna help him kidnap Murray, then she was at least gonna help him find out if his dungeon was sound proof.

Then there's the motive for his crimes, how he tried putting the moves on Murray in the past, with the narration pretty much spelling out he plans to kidnap her and rape her, before Murray proceeds to batter him and blind one of his eyes. This causes him to hold a total grudge against her, especially since she walked away and has ever since plotting something special to kill her. This grudge against her is so bad, that is remains his top priority, no matter what the situation. He does have moments where he seems to be a pragmatic and competent cop, namely in regards to surviving against a pack of werewolves, but even then it takes a backseat as far as his vendetta against Murray goes; even when he makes the argument of I Did What I Have To Do in regards to killing Barclay, he's immediately called out on it, with everyone pointing out that ultimately he only cares about himself and his grudge against Murray.

As far as the heinous standard, I'd say he sets it, as far as being the main human antagonist goes. Even with the supernatural monsters in this story, Dixon manages to have the highest human bodycount between the wolves and the creepers, with most of the characters who die in this story, do so at Dixon's hands. He's also got a history of assault, torture and possible rape under his belt.

edited 26th Jun '17 3:56:19 AM by Beast

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#88044: Jun 26th 2017 at 5:03:17 AM

[tup] to Comic!Dylan, The Bone Woman, Father Derek Abernathy and Nathaniel Dixon.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#88045: Jun 26th 2017 at 7:07:40 AM

Yea to Dixon and Derek. And yes, Adam Ant is a goddamn revelation in this film.

As an FYI, she's called The Bone Woman since she uses human bones in her spells.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#88046: Jun 26th 2017 at 7:08:26 AM

By the way, I don't know about the comic, but in the film version of Dark of the Moon, Megatron died.

TommyFresh Since: Aug, 2013
#88047: Jun 26th 2017 at 7:19:45 AM

[tup] Bone Woman, Derek, and Dixon.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#88049: Jun 26th 2017 at 8:15:18 AM

Sentinel Prime? Nah, even though he fell pretty deep in the end, his main motivation was still saving Cybertron.

And in his last moments, he lamented that he only ever wanted to save their race.

Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
ThePest179 Since: Jul, 2015
#88050: Jun 26th 2017 at 8:30:42 AM

[tup] for Dixon.

I noticed nobody has claimed the Five Nights at Freddy's movie adaptation, so unless anyone has any objections, I'll claim it.


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