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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#83101: May 7th 2017 at 11:07:55 AM

Cut Emerson.

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username2527 Since: Nov, 2013
#83102: May 7th 2017 at 11:33:59 AM

[up][up] I think the reason was that he wasn't as bad as other Serial Killers and had an FE of being raped on Christmas. Anyway, yeah I am fine with Leigh Emerson getting cut.

edited 7th May '17 1:34:37 PM by username2527

Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#83103: May 7th 2017 at 11:54:52 AM

A 'Yes' to all recently proposed candidates excep the Phantom due to others' reasoning.

If I haven't already said it, I'm fine with cutting Emerson.

Alrighty, this one took some time as I'm afflicted with a nasty virus, but I managed to make that next effortpost from Dead @ 17 I promised. I MIGHT also have a candidate within the day or next, so keep an eye out for that as well.

Who is he?

Lucifer is the Greater-Scope Villain and ultimate Final Boss of the comic.

Originally an angel of Heaven, Lucifer rebelled and took many angels with him in trying to overthrow God, at which point Lucifer and his armies were defeated and he was flung down into the pits of Hell.

And now, he wants out.

What has he done?

Lucifer masterminds....well, nearly the entire comic, making contact with Abraham Pitch and making a deal with him, sending waves of demons to Earth to kill numerous people to pave the way for his return, and just all that good stuff.

When freed from Hell by Pitch, Lucifer jumps into his body, and the duo begin sharing the skin as Lucifer begins giving Pitch pointsrs on becoming ever more powerful.

Once Pitch is President, he and Lucifer begin declaring war on all those who refuse to take the "Mark", eventually framing the Unmarked as terrorists by bombing and slaughtering dozens of people then framing the Unmarked for it.

As Lucifer and Pitch are separated after executing numerous innocent Unmarked, Lucifer transforms into his demonic dragon form, then activates the Mark on the millions upon millions of people he has tricked into taking the Mark, stealing their souls and turning them into his demonic slaves that he orders to massacre every normal human they come across.

As a huge war is fought across the planet between Lucifer's Marked demons and every Unmarked, Lucifer goes on a rampage through a nearby city, smashing through buildings, downing airplanes, and just killing as many people as he can while cackling like a madman and proclaiming his plans to plunge the world into neverending suffering.

Ultimately dueling our heroine Nara in a final battle, viciously mocking her for his hand in the countless amounts of death, suffering, and destruction throughout her life, Lucifer is ultimatelt beaten when Nara cleaves the portal Key keeping his Hellish powers burning in half, depowering Lucifer vack to his normal form where he is handily beaten down, chained, then flung back into Hell, ending his evil reign of EEEEEEVIL.

Freudian Excuse or other redeeming features?

Pfffft, nope. Lucifer is just a power hungry monster obsessed with plunging the world into a Hellish nightmare just to spite God.

Heinousness?

Worst in-story alongside Pitch. Whilw Pitch has more personal crimes to him, Lucifer masterminded most of them PLUS the numerous other Arc Villain(s) in the story, and ultimately, his final plan of turning the Earth into a living Hell of eternal torment is far worse than Pitch's final scheme of just turning humanity into his slaves.

Final Verdict?

A Keep, I'd say.

No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!
futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#83104: May 7th 2017 at 11:56:28 AM

[tup] to keeping Grimsrud. No questions asked.

MahStache from Old Jersey, not the bad new one Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#83105: May 7th 2017 at 11:56:53 AM

Alright, I lurk on this thread a lot and I'm finally ready to propose an example; Aki Honda from Narutaru. She has been brought up here before, but from what I could tell with the search function people were unsure on her. I'd like to finalize opinions on this.

What's the Work?

Narutaru is a deceptively dark Mon series by Mohiro Kitoh, who also created the infamously depressing Bokurano. It starts off with a relatively light first episode, but things sure go downhill from there.

Who is the candidate?

One of the side villains in Narutaru is Aki Honda. She's the Alpha Bitch leader of a Gang of Bullies, and one of the most despicable Alpha Bitches ever.

What has she done?

Aki Honda starts off the series by tormenting a certain student, Hiroko Kaizuka, because of her low grades. If she did get any good grades, she would regard it as defiance and torment her even more. Easily her most heinous act in the series, and what makes her qualify for this trope, is when she forced Hiroko Kaizuka to eat worms and then, rape her with a test tube, which one of the bullies in the group, the unsure one, was beaten for for being late to. She is also heavily implied to have an incestous relationship with her brother. Her torture of Hiroko Kaizuka is one of the factors that, along with Abusive Parents, causes her to snap.

Her own death is also horrible, but not a redeeming quality, as she deserved it. She is talon raped in a way that mirrors what she did to Hiroko, and then is forced to ingest worms herself. In the manga version, this is even worse, as it shows her body split in half by the rape, and her later remains. However, this does not redeem her, as she was absolutely deserving of a horrible, gory death after what she's done.

The heinous Standard

Aki Honda might not do very much in the whole world of Complete Monsters out there, but what she does do, purely to torment one person, is absolutely "vile". I'd say she definetly passes it. with flying colors.

Freudian Excuse

Nope. Not at all. She gets none, and is portrayed with zero redeeming qualities whatsoever throughout the story. Her incestous relationship with her brother is not true love, and is barely shown.

Final verdict

[tup] from me. One of the vilest Alpha Bitches, ever.

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#83106: May 7th 2017 at 12:06:50 PM

[tdown] to Malekith. He leaves such a little impression.

Saw GotG Vol. 2 last night. Hoo boy! Have we got a lot to discuss come 5/19!

edited 7th May '17 12:07:56 PM by futuremoviewriter

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#83107: May 7th 2017 at 12:15:58 PM

Yes to Lucifer.

Aki, though...she's an abusive bully and Alpha Bitch, with one nasty rape but...I've been pretty uncomfortable saying yes to her, all things considered.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#83108: May 7th 2017 at 12:54:06 PM

[tup] Lucifer

Wasn't Aki cut for having some kind of redeeming quality?

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#83110: May 7th 2017 at 1:03:54 PM

"You remember Lucifer?"

"He is even spookier!"

Yeah, no, [tup] Lucifer. It's Lucifer. Like. Dude.

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#83111: May 7th 2017 at 1:07:47 PM

Great.....I have so much on my plate right now....Don't even know if I should even bother contributing here.

Anyway, [tup] Lucifer.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#83112: May 7th 2017 at 1:11:23 PM

[up] Take care of yourself, Austin.

PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#83113: May 7th 2017 at 1:15:47 PM

[up][up] Do take care and do what you must.

Also, I forgot before, but I hope you get better, Ravok, as well.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#83115: May 7th 2017 at 1:21:46 PM

[tup] To Lucifer.

I thought the reason Aki was cut was for falling short in heinousness, not a redeeming factor. Either way, abstain on Aki.

G-Editor The 47th President Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The 47th President
#83116: May 7th 2017 at 1:32:56 PM

[tup] on Lucifer

Abstain on Aki. It seems her situation a lot like Tomoo. Someone who kick start a person's Start of Darkness, has no redeeming qualities, is the residential Hate Sink, and overall should qualify as a CM but frankly only has one heinous crime under their belt in a series where the heinous standard is quite high

edited 7th May '17 1:35:04 PM by G-Editor

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futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#83117: May 7th 2017 at 1:35:54 PM

MTV Movie & TV Awards are tonight. I always follow the category of Best Villain (though this year it's really out of whack). Still haven't seen Get Out, but go Allison Williams!

emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#83118: May 7th 2017 at 1:37:05 PM

No to Aki and yes to Lucifer.

edited 7th May '17 1:37:35 PM by emperors

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username2527 Since: Nov, 2013
#83119: May 7th 2017 at 1:37:20 PM

[tdown] Aki. We already been over this. There is a difference between Hate Sink and CM especially when her victim ends up doing much worse than her.

papyru30 from Colorado for summer break Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#83120: May 7th 2017 at 1:38:02 PM

Here's my proposal for both sides of the Big Bad Ensemble for Masks of Aygrima

  • The Autarch, the ruler of Aygrima who created the masks to prevent any rebellions from ever happening. He is brutal and unforgiving of traitors and doesn't hesitate to pull a You Have Failed Me for almost any offence. If a person fails their masking he sentences them to a Fate Worse than Death by sending them to a slave mine where slaves work in the horribly cold mountains where cave-ins are common and female prisoners are raped by the guards. He has an extreme Lack of Empathy for everyone around him, shrugging off the deaths of his personal guard and closest advisors. He's an Immortality Seeker who is fully willing to suck the life out of all of his subjects and personally shows up at the masking of several gifted just for this purpose, a decision that normally leads the failure of that person's masking. He has a group of young gifted follow him around so he can sap magic for them which leaves them sickly and weak. Not long before the start of the series he has all masks changed so that all citizens become extremely submissive to his rule and later uses these masks to control all citizens to fight the rebels attacking the capital causing many of them to die in combat and others to drop dead once they are released from his control. He also proves to be a Dirty Old Man when he meets Mara face to face and intends to posses her body to extend his lifespan.

    • Note this second character's mere existence is a spoiler so all spoilers will be left unmarked since otherwise the whole example would be marked.

  • The Lady of Pain and Fire the Arch-Enemy who was thought to be long dead. She forces a clan of people living in the mountains to be her servants and saps magic from them to keep herself alive. She is extremely dismissive and uncaring towards everybody and strands a crew of foreign sailors in Aygrima until they help her kill The Autarch because they offered to provide her with an army. She uses her magic to posses her villagers to attack and kill the Unmasked Army to give her time to further her plans. She has a Lack of Empathy for everyone and is willing to kill the helpless unmasked miners and all of her allies for magic so she can become a Person of Mass Destruction and take over Aygrima. Mara is the only person she keeps alive because she wants to posses her to extend he lifespan. When Mara find out she decides to force her to watch her kill Keltan, Mara's boyfriend, for no reason other than For the Evulz. She is also willing to block a portion of Mara's memory and isolate her from The Unmasked Army, claiming that none of them, not even Keltan, want to see her. She is a Hypocrite who despite hating The Autarch is Not So Different.

emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#83121: May 7th 2017 at 1:38:58 PM

[up] Good write-ups, but effort-posts?

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Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
#83122: May 7th 2017 at 2:12:33 PM

[tup]Lucifer.

Why so serious?
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#83123: May 7th 2017 at 2:26:18 PM

  • Ajin: The anime version of Ajin Sato(u), real name Samuel T. O’Brian, is a former member of the US special forces discharged for insubordination, caused by his strong appetite for killing. Learning of his immortality in Japan, he plans to plunge Japan into terror while falsely claiming to work for Ajin liberation. Forming an Ajin terrorist ring through manipulation and treachery, his attacks include toppling a building into a heavily manned company headquarters, going in with said building and killing his way out of responding police units, and assassinating 15 government and corporation officials, all the while killing everyone in his way. In his final attack, he steals 20 units of nerve gas, takes over a JSDF base, arms the gas on missiles, and demands the Japanese government to submit Japan to his rule within one week or else he will exterminate Japan and rule over the remains. When the government compromises some islands for Ajin governance, Satou rejects the offer as "boring" and prematurely fires a missile at the Prime Minister's office, killing an untold number of people in a massive radius, shocking even his subordinates and causing many to defect. Along the way, Satou had formed a grudge with Ajin Nagai Kei, always preparing to decapitate Kei note  and murder people Kei had cared about in front of his eyes. Badass and charismatic, Satou is ultimately violent to the core.
  • Kismet: Man of Fate: Herr Schering is a Gestapo agent sent to retaliate against the assassination of Colonel Freydrich. He goes about this retaliation by ordering a massacre of the surrounding area, planning to take out over 7,000 innocents by the time he finished. He gets to 700 in one day before being captured by Kismet. He is then taken to the headquarters of La Résistance, which he tries to escape by threatening to blow up the base with his men still inside.
  • Rover Red Charlie, by Garth Ennis & Michael Dipascale: The brutish Hermann is a former fighting dog who, in the wake of humanity's extinction, decides to kidnap a human child and start torturing him for days on end into submission. Dubbing the child "shit-boy" once he finally breaks from Hermann's tortures, Hermann continues torturing and starving the child for days on end out of nothing more than pleasure. Once the child dies, Hermann furiously targets Rover, Red, and Charlie, resolving to murder Red and turn Charlie and Rover into his new slaves in retribution. Even when confronted on his abusive past, Hermann points out he liked being a fighting dog and had no qualms with doing what his owners wanted, viciously attempting to murder everything in his way in the final battle.
  • The Anti-Monitor, the next Big Bad, is an omnicidal machine obsessed with nothing less than the obliteration of everything in the universe that isn't himself. Built to be a knowledge-gathering robot, the Anti-Monitor quickly realized his superiority to all life in the cosmos, and was banished to another dimension soon after his proclamation to destroy everything in his path. The Anti-Monitor proceeded to turn trillions of planets in this alternate dimension into antimatter which he then consumed to make himself stronger, and, though making a deal with the last remaining planet's population to not consume them should they build him a portal back to his own dimension, the Anti-Monitor drained their sun of nearly all its life before he left, ensuring that the planet would still die soon after he was gone. Once back in his home dimension, the Anti-Monitor reactivates the Manhunter robots across the universe and orders them to kill everything they see, and, when confronted by Hal Jordan, the Anti-Monitor tries to force him to watch as first his friends, then entire worlds, are consumed before him. Even when beaten, the Anti-Monitor desperately tries to strike a deal with Aya to assist her in her plans to destroy reality itself to save his own hide. A megalomaniac who couldn't stand anything living except himself, the Anti-Monitor's narcissism was only matched by his petty sadism.
  • Space Ghost (2005 miniseries):
    • Quartermaster Temple, the man responsible for ruining the life of Thaddeus Bach—aka Space Ghost— is a member of the Eidolon Elite who leads the Wrath, the Eidolon's most experienced—and corrupt unit. Initially appear as a stern but reasonable man, all pretense of civility dissipates when Temple implodes the head of an amiable weapons dealer and passes his death off as an act of justice. When Bach attempts to expose him, Temple plunges off the deep end by savagely murdering Bach's pregnant wife, tearing the unborn baby out of her, and recording the entire process, leaving Bach for dead on an alien planet shortly after. When the Zorathians invade Meridian, a colony planet where the residents are worked to the bone by Temple, Temple guns down several Zorathians and fleeing innocent civilians himself before siding with their leader Zorak, selling out the entire populace to be slaughtered by the Zorathian in exchange for his own skin and another shot at Bach. Once Zorak betrays him, Temple loses it and butchers his way through the Zorathian mothership in an effort to plunge the entire ship into Meridian and wipe out both the colonists and the Zorathians to eradicate any evidence of his misdeeds, gloating over the impending death of the hundreds of innocents below to Bach with a cocky sneer on his face. Willing to take any means necessary to cover up his immoral affairs, Temple manages to match even the Zorathians in pure depravity.
    • Zorak, in a sharp contrast to his best-known—though not necessarily his original—iteration, is portrayed in this comic as a genocidal, violence-loving creature with the singular goal of devouring all life in the universe until all that is left is himself and his race, the Zorathians. First appearing in-story leading the attempted slaughter of an entire city, Zorak is quickly revealed to be a nightmarish galactic monster who sends out scouts to various planets to test the defenses by killing inhabitants before Zorak and his fleet arrive to massacre the entire planet's population, taking any survivors as slaves or food, then festering in the corpses of the dead population and breeding a new generation of Zorathians in order to repeat the process over again. An utterly sadistic being, Zorak takes deep pleasure from killing all in his path, with his troops attempting to torture children to death being just one notable instance of this, all while keeping himself alive by body jacking his fellow Zorathians when his current body expires. After allying with then betraying the aforementioned Quartermaster Temple, leaving him to die when he outlives his usefulness, Zorak viciously mocks Space Ghost about the death of his wife at Temple's hands, and gleefully boasts his plans to continue his planet devouring spree for all eternity. Harboring a deep hatred and lust to kill for everything that wasn't his own race, Zorak is perhaps one of the most shocking examples of Adaptational Villainy ever conceived.
  • Dr. Nathan Flack, otherwise known as Dr. Nemo, is the first Bang Baby and mastermind behind the Big Bang event and all of the psychopaths it spawned. Responsible for creating the physics-altering Q Juice, Nathan is accidentally exposed to his own creation and ends up anchored out of the physical plane unless he concentrates. Testing out his new powers in a variety of ways, up to full-blown murder in broad daylight, Nathan renames himself Dr. Nemo and poisons Dakota City's tear gas grenades with the Q Juice in the wake of a major turf war. The resulting usage of the bombs ends up fatally poisoning hundreds of people and mutating the rest into superpowered "Bang Babies." Gleeful at seeing the Q Juice's effects, Nemo decides to go global and hijacks Headmaster's plans for world domination, intending to detonate a missile filled with Q Juice and drown all humanity in it, killing off most of the world's populace whilst mutating the rest. Never shown as anything more than a smug, egotistical man willing to condemn millions of people to death purely to test out the effects of his own creation, Dr. Nemo is one of the vilest supervillains in the Milestone universe.
  • Deathwish: James Gordon Staley, better known as "Boots," is a sick-minded, psychopathic Serial Killer with a twisted obsession with transsexuals and a track record of rape, torture, and murder dating back years, with countless victims to his name. Growing bored with simple murder, Boots decides to become a Mad Artist, torturing and massacring entire houses filled with transsexual prostitutes in order to make perverse sculptures out of their dead bodies, horribly brutalizing his own minions if they get in his way. Boots's intended masterpiece is Dini, his former charge who he attempted to rape ten years ago, kidnapping her and leaving a taunting message to her lover Marisa Rahm in her own apartment.
  • Xombi: David Kim's very first foe, Dr. Sugarman, is the madman responsible for turning Kim into Xombi in the first place. A former surgeon already responsible for several horrible experiments, among them transforming children into pained abominations who lived for days on end before perishing, Sugarman forsakes science for the occult to further his pursuit of immortality. Learning of nanites invented by Dr. Kim which repair tissue at superhuman rates, Sugarman unleashes the Rustling Husks into the Organitek building to massacre whomever gets in their way and steal the nanites. Sugarman's ultimate plan, after stealing the nanites, is to unleash a titanic abomination called the Lord of Fumes to destroy the entire planet and leave it a lifeless, polluted husk.
  • Antibodies (Antikörper) (2005): Gabriel Engel is a sickening Serial Killer obsessed with evil itself and his own twisted, artistic vision of murder and torture. Engel's pattern is to kidnap a young boy, torture, maim, and rape him to his heart's desire, then slowly drain him of his blood until death, after which he uses said blood as paint for his artwork. After murdering 13 boys this way, Engel guns down a cop who stumbles across his latest killing before being caught. Once in prison, Engel first gives explicit details on his first victim, taking obvious pleasure from the interrogator's horror at the tale, and later refuses to talk to anyone except a village cop named Michael Martins. Engel psychologically torments Michael over several weeks of visits, ultimately convincing the paranoid Michael that his own son Christan killed one of his childhood friends, when in reality, Engel had killed the girl years back, and had arranged his capture and communication with Michael solely to manipulate him into murdering his Christan to prove a depraved point that all men can be as evil as him if given the right circumstances. Engel was utterly fascinated by the nature of evil and believed himself to be the epitome of it across humanity, and lived for no other reason than to torture and kill others.
  • Cabiria: Karthalo is one of the earliest examples of a Complete Monster in film and one of the vilest to ever grace the big screen. The High Priest of the devilish, three-eyed Moloch, Karthalo engineers the mass sacrifice of hundreds of children at a time to be stripped naked and dumped one-by-one into a furnace to be burned alive as tribute to Moloch. Karthalo coldly tortures and murders any opposition to the sacrifice, having Croessa, the nanny of the young Cabiria, painfully flogged and later ripped apart by his followers, and later brutally torturing the good-hearted servant Maciste before chaining him to a millstone and condemning him to grueling labor at the millstone's side for the rest of his life. In his lowest moment, Karthalo attempts to rape Cabiria, the same girl he had attempted to sacrifice over ten years ago, out of nothing more than a fit of cruel lust. A zealot, a slaver, a torturer, and a madman with countless atrocities on his hands, Karthalo's evil shines just as wickedly today as it did over a century ago.
  • Die Hard: Hans Gruber, the franchise's first Big Bad and a prototype for countless future action movie villains, is an self-described "exceptional thief" who leads the supposed terrorist attack that takes over Nakatomi Plaza in Los Angeles, killing the building's security. A former member of the German terrorist organization Volksfrei, Hans decides to serve his own profit over ideology by attempting to rob the Plaza of its bearer bonds. Executing the company head Joseph Takagi when he refuses to cooperate, Gruber has a SWAT team wiped out when they storm the building, and when the hero John McClane interferes, Hans murders a hostage who claims to be John's friend and threatens to begin shooting more until he "gets to someone you do care about!" It is revealed Hans never intends to let any hostages go, instead placing all of them on the roof to rig it with explosives, which he then plans to detonate—killing over 30 innocent people as a distraction—and fake his own death to get away clean with the money. While only succeeding in killing members of the FBI in this attempt, Hans immediately kidnaps John's ex-wife before attempting to kill her and John in retribution. Ruthlessly devoted to his own profit above anything else and mixing an utter lack of regard for human liveseven those of his own men—with an air of urbane sophistication, Hans Gruber remains the most deeply personal enemy John McClane has ever faced.
  • Dr. Chopper (2005): The titular Dr. Chopper is a rogue plastic surgeon who is a centuries-old man who has cheated death time and time again by killing innocents and harvesting their organs, all in the name of science and eternal youth. He opens the film kidnapping a couple and murdering them for their organs, twenty years later him and his nurses have occupied Lake Tatonka where it's shown they have killed dozens of people over the years. Upon giving his son, Nick, a deed to where he's located, Nick lures his friends to be experimented on and killed which Chopper does with glee. He kills Reese and ties up the rest of them before declaring that they must kill Jessica; when Nick disapproves of this, Chopper kills him before killing Tamara and Leslie.
  • Kill Ratio (2016): General Lazar and his ex-KGB henchman Vorza are a sadistic pair of military officers trying to overthrow the new democracy of their Eastern European nation. Enacting a military coup that leaves their country in flames, the two occupy a hotel where the new President Petrenko is staying and lay siege to it, while Vorza allows his men to brutalize and attempt to assault the staff physically or sexually, even gunning an escaping woman down just to show his men how it's done. When one man objects to Lazar's actions, Lazar toys with him in a sword fight and executes him on the spot by beheading him. When their liaison to the West objects to them executing President Petrenko on air, Lazar and Vorza happily murder him before trying to kill Petrenko, believing her death will break the nation's very spirit.
  • The Legend II (originally titled Fong Sai Yuk II) (1993): Yu Chun-hoi is the second-in-command of the Red Flower Society. A thug, murder and rapist even before joining, Yu was enraged when his father chose another man as the successor of the society over him. Intending to take control, Yu schemes and murders his way to the top, sabotaging the hero Fong Sai-yuk in a way that will result in him being beaten into being a cripple. When his own son tries to call Yu out for his actions, Yu beats him without remorse, trying to murder him. He later overthrows the Society to make it a criminal organization, intending on doing away with any who oppose him. When he faces Fong Sai-yuk, Yu even has the hero's mother tied with a noose around her neck and tries to shove her to hang anyways, just to spite his opponent.
  • River of Death (1989): Wolfgang Manteuffel is an amoral Nazi researcher with grandiose plans of a new Reich borne at his hand. In the dying days of World War II, Wolfgang is confronted by a local Nazi captain disgusted with Wolfgang's horrible experiments on the camp's POWs. Wolfgang coldly shoots the captain dead in full view of the man's daughter once he refuses to stand down, and shortly after cripples his own associate Heinrich Spaatz and leaves him for dead not moments after giving Heinrich his father's ring to profess his feelings for him. Twenty years later, Wolfgang is no less of a monster, conducting torturous experiments on local Amazonian tribe members with a virus and leading to their painful deaths. Wolfgang's ultimate plan is to unleash his virus worldwide to eliminate any people he deems not part of the perfect Aryan race, murdering the daughter of the captain he killed years ago moments before his own demise. Only capable of extending hollow amicability to people he deems useful before discarding them at his own whim, Wolfgang is a cold sociopath even by the standards of the Nazi regime.
  • Shogun's Ninja (1980): Shogen Shiranui is a vicious Koga ninja who leads a massacre of the Momochi clan, betraying and killing the clan leader and then attempting to kill the man's son and the other children. Years later, when the child is grown and returns to find his friends living as heroic thieves in Edo, Shiranui attempts to hunt them down and subject them to death in front of a crowd by having them boiled alive. When their ally rushes in and declares himself guilty to save his fellows before jumping into the boiling cauldron, Shiranui coldly cuts the man's wife down when she runs to her dying husband. When the crowds begin rioting, Shiranui simply has his men shoot them in response before resuming his attempt to finish his extermination of the Momochi.
  • Shooter: Col. Isaac Johnson and Sen. Charles F. Meachum are the leaders of an oil consortium that will do anything to further its own ends. Johnson and Meachum order a US military operation to slaughter a small village of 400 people in Eritrea, so they could build a pipeline on their land. They didn't even bother asking them to move, simply killing them so the next village they target would move without question. Later, Johnson contacts former Gunnery Sergeant Bob Lee Swagger and states he needs his help to foil a plot to assassinate the President. This is a ruse; Johnson and Meachum assassinate the archbishop Ethiopia who was going to tell the President of their genocidal actions, and frame Swagger for this. Johnson tries to have one of his men kill Swagger, but he escapes; Johnson later kills this would-be assassin later to cover his tracks. An FBI agent named Agent Nick Memphis begins to piece things together and investigate the possibility that Swagger is innocent, so Johnson and Meachum send some goons to kidnap him and kill him in a way that makes it look like suicide, before Swagger saves him. Meachum and Johnson try to force Swagger out of hiding by kidnapping Sarah Fenn, the widow of his best friend who died in a mission. They have her beaten and try to use her as bait, to lure Swagger into a trap to kill him. Swagger manages to save her, Johnson and Meachum manage to escape for the time being.
  • The Torturer (2005): Hector Moscale tortures and kills numerous women to create snuff films to make himself money. His methods include dripping boiling oil on women, electrocuting them, and using a blowtorch to cauterize their wounds. Hector keeps one woman locked up in a cramped wooden compartment outside his house, and has her tortured for days. Her friend, Ginette Cazonni, finds her just in time to see her die from her wounds. Hector murders his family servant, Cathlene, when she discovers what he does. Hector captures Ginette and locks her in a room slowly filling with water to try and drown her, and when his stepson, Alex, refuses to take part in his crimes, Hector tries to kill him. Alex and Ginette are saved when Hector's wife fatally stabs him to rescue them, but before dying, Hector stabs and kills her as well.
  • Turkey Shoot (1982): Although virtually no villains in this film have anything in the way of redeeming qualities, the following few are the worst the already dark setting has to offer:
    • Camp Master Charles Thatcher is the source of Camp 47's worst cruelties and is the mastermind behind the titular turkey shoot. Running his camp with an iron fist, Thatcher makes it his utmost mission to utterly break the camp's "deviants"—many of whom were sent to the camp for little else but slights—and calmly presides over routine torture, execution, and the various cruelties of his chief enforcer Ritter. For the sake of sport, Thatcher devises the turkey shoot and invites sociopathic socialites to pick prisoners to hunt at their own leisure, telling the prisoners that if they can escape, they'll be free – withholding the fact that the camp is marooned in the middle of the ocean. Thatcher runs over his first quarry after one of the socialites has injured him to a point where he can't even walk, and merrily torments his other target by firing at him and deliberately missing each time purely to put him on edge. Any good intentions Thatcher espouses as the camp master is merely shallow rhetoric to justify torturing prisoners for his own pleasure.
    • The aforementioned Ritter, Thatcher's thuggish chief enforcer, is a towering, bald brute of a man who abuses the camp's deviants at his own merriment. Allowing his guards to torture, rape, and murder the deviants with full impunity and taking great joy in killing many of them himself, Ritter establishes his cruelty by shadowboxing a terrified female Deviant into a stammering mess before beating her to death with his own bare hands. Hosting double-duty as the camp's executioner, a favorite pastime of Ritter's is forcing deviants to play the "ball game," wherein Ritter and his guards kick about a Deviant holding balls filled with oil around before setting them on fire and watching them burn with a savage delight. Taking full part in the turkey shoot himself—and removing the glasses of one of the deviants participating in the shoot purely to give him a disadvantage—Ritter casually reveals to Secretary Mallory whilst participating in the manhunt that if he was Camp Master, he wouldn't waste any time trying to break the Deviants—he'd simply slaughter them all himself, a fate he favors for all deviants in general.
    • Jennifer is a heinous sadist who makes the most of her limited screentime to be a truly evil individual. Invited by Charles Thatcher to take part in the hunting of deviants for sport in an event called the turkey shoot, Jennifer gleefully boasts the various ways she can and will kill the deviant prisoners, and later illustrates this by shooting a man with her crossbow non-lethally one limb at a time, delighting in his suffering and agony. After brutally torturing and possibly raping another deviant named Rita, Jennifer gleefully attempts the same on Chris, and ultimately calls in an airstrike to wipe out Thatcher's entire re-education camp when the deviants begin freeing themselves, uncaring of the dozens of deviants and government soldiers who will be killed in the ensuing firebombing.
  • Turkey Shoot (2014 remake): "Ramrod" Llewyn is a smug sociopath obsessed with fame and adoration above all else. The top killer on the Turkey Shoot, a televised event where criminals are given the chance to win their freedom or die trying, Ramrod has close to 100 kills, always murdering his targets just as they are about to win by sniping them from a safe distance. Though a thoroughly unlikable scumbag throughout the film, it isn't until the ending that Ramrod's truly monstrous colors are revealed, where it is shown that, while in the military alongside Rick Tyler years ago, he led the wholesale slaughter of a defenseless group of women and children, trying to execute Tyler when he stood in the way, then framed Tyler for the crime, fully enabling General Thatcher to continue a war without Tyler's testimony of Thatcher's evil to put a stop to it. Even when caught and called out on it by Tyler, Ramrod seems to show genuine remorse for his crimes and confesses to a nearby camera, before laughing in Tyler's face and mocking him for thinking that anyone would ever see the confession. Ramrod gradually became worse and worse as the film went on, and ultimately cemented himself as the only wholly irredeemable character in the whole story.
  • The Resurrectionist, by Wrath James White: Dale McCarthy is a childish, self-righteous psychopath with the ability to revive those recently killed from death, and exploits these abilities to indulge in his own twisted desires. After being exposed to violence while witnessing his father violently rape his mother, Dale, starting as a teenager, began using his abilities to first kill small animals, then his own grandmother, over and over again, bringing them back to life each time. Though attempting to keep his mother, the only one aware of his abilities, alive and as his tormented caretaker, Dale moved on to other victims after his mother killed herself permanently. Dale proceeded to go on a horrific killing spree across the country, always targeting one specific woman for a short amount of time to torture, rape, and kill as many times as he wants before going to another victim. Once confronting the only woman he deems worthy of his "love", Sarah, Dale commits truly horrifying atrocities against her, from raping her and her husband in front of each other to flaying her alive, all things he has done on countless others. In the end, Dale brutally murders two police officers standing in his way, and, once beaten, causes all those he has ever revived to drop dead, seemingly for good this time. Dale McCarthy was a spoiled, disgusting, and despicable lunatic who justified his wicked acts as not truly evil, seeing as he always revived his victims, and constantly blamed others for his pathetic state in life.
  • Skinjumper, by Lincoln Crisler: Alex Snowdin, despite lacking the supernatural powers of his partner Terry, manages to stand out as the most evil man in the story. As a child, Alex accidentally killed his brother's dog, and, to avoid trouble for it, arranged to sacrifice another dog to bring his back to life. When this failed, it succeeded only in giving Alex's friend Terry the ability to jump into the bodies of others, while Alex spent his time growing up assaulting and abusing others. Once teaming back up with Terry years later, Alex immediately murders rival drug slingers before raping one's girlfriend, leading Terry to accidentally jump into the girl's body, after which Alex makes numerous attempts to rape Terry to sate his lust. After brutally murdering two more men, Alex betrays Terry, holds him and a woman at gunpoint, then boasts his plans to kill a nearby child for fun after torturing the duo to death in an insane attempt to replicate the ritual that gave Terry his powers.
  • The Wolf Road, by Beth Lewis: Kreagar "Trapper" Hallet, the adoptive father of the heroine Elka, teaches her to survive in the wilderness of British Columbia. In truth, Kreagar is a violent Serial Killer who targets women and children before butchering them and eating them, keeping their scalps as grisly trophies. Elka, now seen as his accomplice, attempts to escape with Kreagar hounding her through the novel. When she comes upon civilization again, we discover Kreagar continues to be active in his "hunts"' of murdering children and is targeting the son of the love interest of Elka's best friend Penelope before kidnapping the boy and murdering him as well. It is revealed Kreagar fed his victims to Elka as well and even had her shoot a little boy herself, something she had repressed from the trauma, in an attempt to turn her into a twisted reflection of himself. A man who lives by no code save the savage law of the wild he invents, Kreagar informs the hunter Lyons that it was Elka who murdered her son instead of him, dooming her to a life on the run, as a last act to deny her any comfort of civilization ever again.
  • The President's Man (2000 Made-for-TV Movie):
    • Vietnamese General Vihn Tran, in the pursuit of money, betrayed his friend Joshua McCord and murdered his wife. Years later, Tran plots the destruction of several major cities with the power of armed nukes, planning to obliterate New York simply as a show of force. Kidnapping a nuclear physicist named Dr. Francis Anderson and his family, Tran forces Anderson to arm the nukes with the promise his wife and his two young children will be tortured to death in front of him, attempting to spitefully murder them once Anderson fails to arm the nukes in time with the cold quip of "never going against his word." Ordering hero Deke Slater tortured once he attempts to save the family, Tran attempts to murder Joshua himself in the final battle to complete what he attempted years ago.
    • Don Diego Santiago is a ruthless Colombian drug lord who allies himself with General Vihn Tran to gain more power than he already possesses. Introduced torturing a man by hitting golf balls into various parts of his body, Santiago is currently turning out drugs from a base filled with children he holds as hostages to keep any military strikes from being carried out on him. Later kidnapping Dr. Anderson alongside the man's family, Santiago cheerfully reveals he will torture Anderson's wife and child daughters to death one at a time for every day he can't arm half a dozen nuclear bombs for him and Vihn Tran. Santiago and Vihn Tran plan to first nuke New York City, then use the rest of the bombs on other targets, and Santiago ultimately happily assists Vihn Tran in the near execution of one of Anderson's children, standing by with a sadistic smile on his face as Deke Slater is tortured for information by jumper cables on himself and Tran's orders.
  • Star Wars: The Aftermath Trilogy:
    • Even after his death, Emperor Sheev Palpatine's evil still lived. The Contingency, concocted by Palpatine and Gallius Rax, is a horrifying plan consisting of Rax luring the New Republic and the Empire into a final conflict, then wiping out both sides by blowing up the entire planet they are dueling on, which will kill not only the hundreds of thousands of soldiers on both sides, but also the millions upon millions of lifeforms on the destroyed planet. Palpatine's reasoning for this scheme was nothing more than a final way of executing those who failed him, believing that if he died, the Empire and all its members deserved to die as well due to failing to protect him from death.
    • Gallius Rax is the mastermind behind the entire Aftermath trilogy, and one of the most wicked individuals to ever grace the Empire's ranks. Growing up as a lowly orphan named Galli, Rax received his chance to become something greater after a chance meeting with Sheev Palpatine, who commissioned Rax to oversee an expedition for him. Succeeding at this task with flying colors by manipulating numerous children into serving him before burning them all alive, Rax quickly rose through the ranks of the Empire, ultimately taking over a large remnant of the leftovers following Palpatine's demise. In his new position, Rax manipulates Grand Admiral Rae Sloane into dancing to his tune while eliminating any and all remaining Imperial commanders he deems unworthy, uncaring of the thousands of Imperial troops killed in the crossfire of his machinations. After using mind control transmitters to turn New Republic agents into assassins, Rax has them execute numerous New Republic government officials, firing on civilians as well, before betraying and attempting to murder Rae Sloane for her disgust at his tactics. Once leading his tens of thousands of troops to Jakku, Rax reveals his master plan concocted by himself and Palpatine to lure most of the New Republic into a final war with the Empire on Jakku, at which point Rax will blow up the entire planet, wiping out the hundreds of thousands of Imperial and New Republic soldiers plus the countless innocents across the planet in one fell swoop. Rax then plans to use dozens of children he abducted and brainwashed into becoming killing machines to form a new Empire for himself to rule, a plan that was not what Palpatine wanted and which directly leads to the creation of the the First Order. Gallius Rax, despite his facade of seemingly polite, cultured personality, was in truth a savage sadist who took great joy in hurting others, and ultimately is responsible for the deaths of countless people across the galaxy due to his psychotic ambitions.
    • Life Debt: Grand Moff Lozen Tolruck conceals the fall of the Emperor from his own men to continue ruling over the planet Kashyyyk as its king. Forcing the Wookiee race into slave labor by installing inhibitor chips that cause intense pain in the Wookiees, Tolruck also begins hunting them for sport and food. When the former Rebellion comes to liberate Kashyyyk, Tolruck continues his barbaric activities and tortures a rebel who falls into his hands, while also considering farming the Wookiee population for meat and crossbreeding them with Talz, a sentient species he finds especially delicious. When he realizes it's impossible to hold Kashyyyk, Tolruck ordered his small fleet of star destroyers to annihilate the entire world, declaring he will surrender Kashyyyk to no one, not even the Empire itself.
  • Silent Hill franchise:
    • Silent Hill 1: Dahlia Gillespie is the head of a cult known as the Sect of the Holy Woman. She also started a drug trade, selling a hallucinogen to the tourists, made from a local plant named White Claudia, that was also used in the cult's rituals. This lead to her killing the anti-drug mayor and the narcotics officer Gucci. Her ultimate goal is to gain personal power by summoning God to bring about a paradise. She kidnaps and attempts to impregnate several young girls with the God, but none of them could withstand the trauma involved in the impregnation process and they all died. Dahlia then found out that her seven-year-old daughter Alessa had vast mental powers. Dahlia and the cult proceeded to perform the impregnation ritual on Alessa, which involved setting the girl on fire, in an upstairs room in Dahlia's own home. Although the god was successfully impregnated in Alessa, the half of her soul left from her daughter's own splitting of her soul and turning the other half into a baby was not powerful enough to give birth to it. Dahlia cast a spell, keeping Alessa alive and in extreme pain, not allowing her burns to heal. Her intention was for the other half to subconsciously feel Alessa's pain, and come back to Silent Hill, where the soul would be reunited. Seven years later, Dahlia proceeds to trick Harry Mason into assisting in her scheme to complete the ritual.
    • Homecoming: Judge Margaret Holloway, one of the respected town leaders of Shepard's Glen, makes herself out to be a sweet motherly figure, but in truth is a cold-hearted, cruel and vicious leader of the Order. Years prior, Holloway murdered her youngest daughter Nora by strangling her with her own hands, as per the pact with the Order's God. Unlike the other parents, she is completely remorseless and barely concealed her enjoyment. When the pact is broken due to Joshua Shepard dying in Alex's place, Holloway reassembled the Order to take control of Shepard's Glen as a means of gaining and maintaining her power. Over the years she had residents kidnapped to be brainwashed into the Order, with those resisting ending up tortured to death. Eventually the residents were either dead or soldiers for the Order. Holloway also has Alex's mother abducted and tortured, during which Alex can be forced to Mercy Kill her. While Mayor Bartlett and Dr. Fitch are killed by Eldritch manifestations of their children, when Alex rescues Holloway from Nora's manifestation, she leaves Alex to face it. Later, she plans on killing her other daughter Elle for her refusal to join her, before attempting to torture Alex to death with a power drill.
  • Gisaku: Gorkan is the demonic mastermind of all the evil in the story. A devil who rules over his dimension of demons with an iron fist, Gorkan arrives on Earth and immediately massacres several samurai who try to stop him, before attempting to unleash his armies of demons onto the planet to plunge the world into a living Hell. Though thwarted in this, Gorkan escaped and spent centuries building himself a criminal empire that he used to hide his evil activities, notably mutating a lynx into a half-human hybrid after making a deal with him to save his race, leaving him an outcast by both humans and his fellow lynxes. In the present, Gorkan is an absolutely dreadful excuse for an employer, brutally melting, crushing, and snapping in two his own minions for the smallest slights, from failure to simply stating the fact of a temporary setback. In the end, Gorkan tries once more to unleash his demonic forces onto Earth, and takes the time to viciously twist one of his soldiers into a ball when the man slightly annoys him.

edited 9th May '17 10:38:15 AM by ACW

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#83124: May 7th 2017 at 2:37:09 PM

[up]I guess that's a no to my request to include Madison for now anyway and then cut her later.

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