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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#77201: Feb 13th 2017 at 10:43:16 PM

[up] G-Editor, what have we said on that? Twice, now, at least? Likely more?

Anyways, no, between both a lack of necessity and the fact it looks like some characters might be cut.

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#77202: Feb 13th 2017 at 10:56:22 PM

[up][up] Again, no need to pounce on immediately making a subpage. Since the series is in its last season, let's wait until it's all over, then we can talk about all the monsters and whether or not a subpage is necessary.

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
bobg Since: Nov, 2012
#77203: Feb 13th 2017 at 11:36:43 PM

While Gotham is on the table, what is Jervis's one redeeming quality? He sounds like a real sick bastard.

jjj
Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#77204: Feb 13th 2017 at 11:41:35 PM

[up] The quality is that Tetch, for all intents and purposes, seemingly genuine cares for his sister. He's heavily implied to have molested her while they were growing up, but he's genuinely saddened and enraged by her death, and all of his crimes, in one way or another, link back to just trying to get her to stay with him, or, in his later appearances, avenging her death in his own twisted way.

I would like nothing better than for Tetch to count, because he IS such a sick prick, but that quality is just too blatant to ignore.

No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!
G-Editor The 47th President Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The 47th President
#77205: Feb 14th 2017 at 12:07:05 AM

Okay okay I won't say anymore on that subject you guys seem to know how much needed for a page so I'll let it be

edited 14th Feb '17 12:08:47 AM by G-Editor

My sandbox of EPs and other stuff
Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#77206: Feb 14th 2017 at 12:44:18 AM

Alright, all... expect a few more effortposts from my end in the days to come. Let's get a quickie but a nasty out of the way first.

From the comic book Random Acts of Violence? Let's meet our candidate tonight.

What's the setting?

Random Acts revolves around the lives of two comic book artists, Todd and Ezra. These two have just published their first horror comic, Slasherman, which revolves around the eponymous serial killer waxing monologues about how death is art while gruesomely torturing people to death. Slasherman is an instant hit and Todd and Ezra become famous. The two get the bright idea to host a contest through the comic; someone with the idea for an epic kill Slasherman can make will have it published in the comic. However, a typo's made and the contest is made for someone who can commit the best kill. This is all the incentive one of Slasherman's more disturbed fans takes to begin his spree...

Who is the Slasherman Killer? What has he done?

The killer – he's never given a name in the comic – is a demented fan of Slasherman who takes the ramblings and motive rants of Slasherman way too close to heart. To begin with, the killer begins a murder spree, kidnapping and murdering young women around the countryside, brutally mutilating their bodies and dismembering them before leaving them for the cops to find. At the same time, the killer is implied to approach Todd and Erza in costume in the get-up of the Slasherman himself. As Todd and Erza tour, they find more carnage left in the killer's wake... a grouping of wrecked cars and several innocents – including some children – all savagely murdered, dismembered and left in the middle of the desert, and three people brutally murdered and left in a comic book store.

The police get suspicious and arrest Todd and Ezra shortly after they stumble across the bodies of the last three people in a comic book store, seeing as the murders have all been marked with the word “SLASHERMAN.” Every murder coincides with their location, as well, hinting the killer is stalking them. While they're let go, Todd tries to call his girlfriend Kathy but only gets a suspicious voice at the other end. When Todd demands to know who the person is, the killer – on the other end – quotes the comic and says he's “all done hurting” Kathy when Todd begs him not to hurt her. It's too late, though... when Todd and Ezra get back to their home city, they receive unfortunate news that Kathy was murdered. Todd grieves for a while before he's approached by the killer, who first gives him Kathy's ring and then reveals just who he is before knocking Todd unconscious and kidnapping him.

Todd wakes up in the killer's home, where the killer goes on a motive rant... he remarks that Slasherman struck a deep chord with him in the context of considering pain, death, and suffering to be true art. The killer decides to do Todd one extra and show him his finest kill... forcing Todd to watch, the killer boots up a video he recorded while killing Kathy and gleefully boasts on how Kathy kept on fighting even as he cut her hands off and tore her apart. The killer then orders Todd to jot down what he just witnessed and publish it as the “best kill” for the contest... otherwise, he'll cut Todd apart piece by piece and until there's nothing left. Ezra, however, arrives on the scene just in time and engages in a fight with the killer. The killer spitefully states Ezra was a piss-poor writer as he attempts to kill him before Todd rears up from behind and plunges a tool into his neck and then into his eye, and then finishing him off with his own machete as he tries to crawl away.

Any mitigating factors?

That's an adorable thought. The killer's just a sadistic, brutal son of a bitch who genuinely considers mutilation and murder to be about the highest forms of art imaginable. There's no care or genuine admiration for Todd or Ezra or anyone else. We don't know much about him – even his name – but his motivation is made very, very clear and he has quite a bit of room to talk and act in the comic's last act.

So, in conclusion? The Slasherman Killer is a loony fan who brutally murders and dismembers eight women, murders and dismembers several more people — including children — brutally dismembers Todd's girlfriend, forces Todd to watch the footage of said dismemberment, and tries to make him sketch down and publish said gruesome murder of his girlfriend under the threat of cutting him to pieces all as a testament to creating pain and suffering as an art form. Sort of reminds me of an even more brutal Annie Wilkes, to be honest... just with none of the initial niceness.

Conclusion?

Need I say it? Easy keeper.

Thoughts?

edited 14th Feb '17 9:31:38 AM by Scraggle

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#77207: Feb 14th 2017 at 1:18:34 AM

[tup] Slasherman Killer

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#77208: Feb 14th 2017 at 2:34:15 AM

[tup] to Otto Lutterman, Der Soldat and The Slasherman Killer.

I say wait till Theo's arc is over before cutting him. Likewise I might have missed something while reading, but what he does sounds pretty self motivated to me. I mean he doesn't want to go back to hell cause he's been tortured there, he doesn't want a lunatic to use his evil army to destroy the world etc.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#77209: Feb 14th 2017 at 5:30:56 AM

[tup] Otto and Slasherman. I'll read Beast's effortpost later.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#77210: Feb 14th 2017 at 6:27:33 AM

Yes to them. And to der soldat

Stellarvore Since: Apr, 2016
#77211: Feb 14th 2017 at 6:35:36 AM

[tup] Slasherman. All that over a typo ...

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#77212: Feb 14th 2017 at 7:09:35 AM

[up] Though it sounds like the guy was just looking for any excuse.

Stellarvore Since: Apr, 2016
#77213: Feb 14th 2017 at 7:23:30 AM

Yeah, true. Honestly, that reminds me of the disclaimer for Wikipedia's list of serial killers by number of victims, which wasn't always there. Makes you wonder, did they add it there because of really bad phrasing that was open to ridicule, or because somebody took the part about helping to expand the list a little too seriously? The latter's unlikely (it is, right? Right? RIGHT??!), but still.

Oh, and one potential disqualifier I forgot to mention for Mr. Lutterman: the book is written entirely from Cal's perspective. Aside from stalking Cal when he starts to catch onto him, chasing him with a knife, and choking him at his trial, we never actually see any of Otto's atrocities, though Gretchen is in such terrible shape for the majority of the story that it leaves very little to the imagination.

edited 14th Feb '17 7:55:23 AM by Stellarvore

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#77214: Feb 14th 2017 at 7:33:46 AM

  • Oniwakamaru: Abe no Seimei, initially under the identity of Priest Anku, is an evil specter and a half-demon sorcerer that causes a massive plane crash to free his demon servants,killing all aboard, save a single baby who is resurrected by Seimei's nemesis Priest Kukai. Unleashing demons against the baby, now the grown hero Hitori who is possessed by the demon Oniwakamaru, Seimei manages to revive himself and announces his intentions to dye the world crimson. Going on a killing spree where he regularly devours the souls of prostitutes to maintain his body. Seimei commits murder for petty reasons, such as when a little boy bumps into him in a hotel, resulting in Seimei mind controlling him and his parents into jumping to their deaths. Causing a massacre at a police station, Seimei finally attempts to cause a massive bullet train crash to kill hundreds and shatter the barrier Kukai had erected around his own soul to devour Kukai and become a 'perfect being.'

  • Miss Fisher
    • Sidney Fletcher seems to be a charming man who appears several times in Season 2. In truth, Fletcher runs a white-slavery operation wherein he scouts out 'sinful' young women held at a convent and buys them, only to smuggle them out of Australia and into sex slavery. When one young woman escapes, Fletcher decides she's not worth the trouble and has her murdered before having her dumped in the river. When Phryne Fisher investigates, Fletcher catches her and demonstrates willingness to kill her and her friends in order to keep his sickening trade going.
      • Nicholas Mortimer is the most prolific murderer in the series.When he discovered a mine had gold in it, Mortimer sent in miners who were trapped in a cave-in. When a ten year old boy escaped and told Mortimer, Mortimer personally murdered him and rigged a second cave in to kill the miners as not to have to tell anyone else about the gold. Years later, Mortimer learns that Phryne's aunt Prudent wants to sell her stake in the mine and begins murdering everyone at the hotel they're at to deal with Prudence and any witnesses. Just for a sadistic flair, he bases his murders around the 12 days of Christmas song, knowing the song tormented Prudence when she thought she heard the trapped miners singing it. Mortimer even murders his own wife as not to share the wealth with her, admitting that he did it all for money and fun.

  • Invasion America: The Dragit is the military commander of Tyrosh and the Evil Uncle of the emperor Cale-Oosha. When he makes an attempt to overthrow Cale, Cale manages to escape, ending up on earth where he fathers a son named David. Upon learning of them, the Dragit attempts to murder the baby and his mother. Installing a secret base on the moon, the Dragit reveals his plan to use a weapon to have asteroids bombard America, causing countless deaths, until the country gives in whereupon the Dragit will continue the process with every nation on earth, killing millions until the human race gives in. When David is captured in the finale, the Dragit opts to personally attempt to murder his great-nephew, his rhetoric about saving Tyrosh a front for his own cruelty and lust for power.

  • Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth: Robert Marsh is the main mortal antagonist of the game. The heir of the Marsh family who sold Innsmouth out to the gods of the Deep Ones, Robert and his elder brother Sebastian rule over the Esoteric Order of Dagon. While Sebastian focuses on the business aspects, Robert is a religious fanatic who presides over a legacy of human sacrifice and fanaticism. When ordering the hero Jack killed in Innsmouth, Robert later uses his magic to help kill the marines who attempt to storm the Order before summoning Father Dagon himself to lead a horde of Deep Ones to a marine vessel that results in the deaths of everyone but Jack. When Y'ha-nthlei, the Deep Ones' city is attacked, Sebastian furiously confronts Robert over having the Order in religious devotion in a time of crisis and attempts to shoot him, resulting in Robert magically murdering his brother. His ultimate goal is to have the Deep Ones overwhelm all of humanity, declaring the time of the human race is finished. Having nearly fully transitioned into a monstrous Deep One, Robert cares only for his bloodthirsty religion, with even the other citizens of Innsmouth fearing him.

  • She-Wolf of London
    • Dr. Hatchard is a scientist who discovered the existence of werewolves and decides to get rich off of it. Kidnapping an innocent werewolf, Hatchard keeps him in horrible conditions, forcing a change on him that results in extreme agony.Hatchard proceeds to take other prisoners and inject them with the serum he's made from the werewolf prisoner's blood to create a 'super soldier.' The process inevitably results in agonizing death when the victims' muscles self-destruct. Hatchard has done this to many people, and when he captures the heroine Randi and her partner Ian, he decides to murder his prisoner and replace him with Randi, before attempting to subject Ian to his serum, intending only to profit off the deaths of as many innocents as it takes.
    • Samantha Stevens is the dean of Ian's college who is obsessed with reclaiming the Staff of Gilgamesh to grant herself dominion over the dead. Beginning by raising the dead, this results in the zombies devouring innocent people. Stevens is seemingly stopped and killed, but turns out to be alive and stabs Ian to death, later raising him as a freshly dead zombie to use his still-intact intellect. Stevens sends her zombies after another piece of the staff at a crowded museum, resulting in a security guard being eaten alive and many other people nearly killed as well. Intending to sacrifice Randi to complete the power of the staff, Stevens plans to revive the dead all over and use them to overwhelm the living until she reigns supreme over the world.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#77215: Feb 14th 2017 at 7:48:22 AM

  • Chronicles of the Necromancer by Gail Z. Martin
    • Jared Drayke is the evil elder half-brother of hero Martris "Tris" Drayke. His first scene is when Tris stops him from raping a servant. Later making a dark pact with the vampire (or Vayash-Moru) mage Foor Arontala, Jared launches a coup against his own family, killing his father and destroying his soul, as well as Tris's mother and Jared's own younger half-sister. Becoming a vicious tyrant, Jared has his men slaughter entire villages for insufficient payment of taxes, while leading purges of magic users in the kingdom. Jared has members of the Sisterhood of mages slaughtered and tortured, while also butchering the other Vayash-Moru. Having others abducted, tortured and impaled slowly, Jared also becomes a Serial Rapist who abducts, tortures and rapes women regularly before murdering them. When he finally confronts Tris, Jared boasts that he will take Tris's beloved, Jared's former arranged fiance, and rape her endlessly, killing the first child she has to remove any issue with paternity.
    • Foor Arontala assists Jared with everything listed above, torturing members of the Sisterhood and also leading purges of his own race, the Vayash-Moru. Arontala also enslaves the souls of his victims, holding them in agony, while regularly using the spirit of Tris's dead sister to torment him. Holding the trapped spirit of the evil mage the Obsidian King, Arontala feeds it the captive souls while intending to revive him at a certain time and become his new host, bringing a wave of death and destruction to the world, claiming that if the Obsidian King does annihilate everything, Arontala will simply rebuild it in his own image.
    • Malesh is a particularly vicious Vayash-Moru who savors the hunt. While he has to limit himself to vile criminals at first due to treaties and laws, Malesh is fond of tormenting them and draws out their fear at death. Deciding that it's time for vampires to reign over humans, Malesh brutally slaughters the population of multiple villages while attempting to provoke a battle with the goddess The Dark Lady's chosen Vahanian. Malesh attempts to turn his lover Carina and promises that if Vahanian delays in challenging Malesh (while knowing that to kill Malesh might doom Carina, as a Vayash-Moru fledgling's life is linked to its makers), then Malesh will continue butchering villages. Intending to spark a war between humanity and vampires and make oceans of blood flow, Malesh attempts to flee Vahanian by using a child as a human shield, only to reveal he had already drained the child to the point of being impossible to save anyways. Even his own maker is horrified at Malesh's actions, at which point Malesh declares him a weakling before intending to create a slaughter so great that Malesh believes he will be raised to serve as the consort of the Dark Lady and reign over a new kingdom of undeath and destruction.

edited 14th Feb '17 7:48:54 AM by Lightysnake

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#77216: Feb 14th 2017 at 7:55:46 AM

I think if the effects of Otto's abuse and the nature of what he's doing is still very, very apparent, we can still qualify him. I'll give a yes to Mr. Lutterman... he doesn't necessarily do a lot but what he does I think is sufficient to qualify him.

Anyways, next post. Another Seagal villain, actually. This one is Out for Justice.

What's the setting?

It's an 80s action movie – a Seagal one, at that – so take a wild guess... Steven Seagal plays a wisecracking, arm-breaking, invincible cop who can't convincingly act for the life of him who's partner is killed out of the blue one day. Seagal goes to whatever lengths he can to get at this guy. Said guy? Richie Madano (played by William Forsythe, who also played another candidate of mine in Firestorm).

Who is Richie? What has he done?

Richie is a drug-addicted kingpin with a serious hair-trigger temper. Estranged from his family, Richie's taken to a life of crack and fun. It hasn't taken a very good toll on him. Before the plot, Richie discovered that his girlfriend Roxanne has been cheating on him with a cop named Bobby, the partner of Seagal's character Gino Felino (he couldn't sound like any less of a cartoon if he tried, honestly). In a fury, Richie murdered Roxanne and left her naked body in her room and what he does following this kicks off the plot; Richie, with a few of his goons, marches right up to Bobby in broad daylight with the public in witness and fatally shoots Bobby in full view of his family, before placing the incriminating pictures of him and Roxanne on his dead body and driving off. During his getaway, a woman behind Richie tells him to drive faster. Richie responds naturally and blows her brains out for no other reason aside from that the woman was mildly annoying him there.

Gino sees Richie and his men in a parking lot and quickly takes chase. Richie angrily threatens to shoot his men if they don't drive faster and they eventually make it to an arms store, where Richie leaves some of his men to ambush and kill Gino while he makes off with the rest of his goons. Predictably, Gino defeats Richie's thugs and goes around asking about Richie – talking to his family – while Richie bides his time murdering a person for drugs (not an isolated incident, apparently, as it's remarked he's “killing people like it's free”) and visiting the house of a retired prostitute he knows. Despite knowing she's retired and has no interest in sleeping with him, Richie intimidates the prostitute into having sex with him anyways and the prostitute, too terrified of what Richie will do to her otherwise if she says no, complies.

After all this, Richie decides to lay low and bunk with his disabled associated, a wheelchair-bound man named Chas the Chair. Richie's fun time doesn't last long, though... Richie quickly hears the cops outside, immediately deduces Chas sold him out – even as Chas pleads that this isn't the case – and shoots Chas stone dead before running. He sends out some more goons, this time with a little added bonus... they're after Gino and his family, putting the life of his wife and his young son at risk. Gino thankfully manages to fend them off as Richie comes over to his brother's bar. Seeing that he's been roughed up before, Richie beats his brother into sobbing tears and ambushes some mobsters looking for him as they come into the bar, taking them by surprise with his men and killing them all. Richie finally realizes he's pretty much screwed with Gino tailing him, all the information he needs to corner him, and bunks back at the prostitute's place, once again using her as arm candy against her will and having a hell of a time. Gino arrives, crashes the party, defeats his men, and takes his sweet time beating the shit out of Richie – who's attempts to fight back are pretty damn laughable – and finally kills Richie by stabbing a corkscrew between his eyes.

Any mitigating factors?

Nada. While it's remarked Richie's drug abuse isn't exactly doing good things for his health – mental or otherwise – he was remarked to have been bad even as a kid. Drugs only made that worse. He's got a family – a mother, a father, a brother, and a sister – but the only one he openly interacts with is his brother and the one scene they share together, Richie's slapping him around, abusing him, and threatening his life. Even then, the rest of his family is terrified about what Richie might do to them; it is made very clear Richie will kill his own family if he feels they get in the way. No other relations he has are genuine... he shot his own girlfriend, killed his own friend after he thinks he rats him out, repeatedly threatens his own men, and does all of this at the drop of a hat.

No redeeming factors to be seen.

Conclusion?

Keeper.

Thoughts?

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#77217: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:11:26 AM

[tup] Slasherman Killer. And also [tup] Richie Madano. This is why you never honk your horn at anybody. [lol]

You on a Steven Seagal spree, Scrags?

[down] I'm pretty sure that's only for candidates who immediately ignite a Flame War if they're mentioned.

edited 14th Feb '17 8:13:46 AM by Tyk5919

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
Fangusu Since: Jan, 2015
#77218: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:12:10 AM

Why isn't the Dictator from the Street Fighter franchise mentioned on the "Absolutely Concluded And Will Never Be Discussed Again" list of the very first page? I noticed that he has been brought up on this cleanup thread more than once.

edited 14th Feb '17 8:13:21 AM by Fangusu

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#77219: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:19:22 AM

[up] Because his qualification isn't actually such an astounding issue that he needs to be put on there?

[up][up] Oh, that I am. Figured his flicks are an absolute trove for candidates considering Seagal doesn't believe in subtlety. Needless to say, I've been right so far... few disappointments here and there but I've still got a lot of Seagal films on the to-watch. Lighty's been helping on that end too.

edited 14th Feb '17 8:20:09 AM by Scraggle

MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#77221: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:28:53 AM

Eh, [tup] Richie. He does just enough beyond standard action movie villainy. Seagal's an asshole IRL though.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#77223: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:40:15 AM

[tup]Lutterman, Der Soldat, Richie, The Slasherman Killer.

Oissu!
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#77224: Feb 14th 2017 at 8:57:58 AM

Phi, got my question on Leon Connington?

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#77225: Feb 14th 2017 at 9:00:26 AM

No YMMV page sweep for O. It seems like every example was approved.


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