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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

MiraiYuji Since: Dec, 2015
#71976: Nov 20th 2016 at 4:26:47 AM

Well, I think I'll turn down for Walter. My approval wasn't really strong anyways. [tdown]

edited 20th Nov '16 5:00:47 AM by MiraiYuji

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#71977: Nov 20th 2016 at 5:09:21 AM

[up][up] Well, as for the baseline, 3 murders is enough IMO, if only barely..

edited 20th Nov '16 5:09:32 AM by ACW

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#71978: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:05:35 AM

The piece may be a Black Comedy, but it's in the same vein as, say, Fargo, where the heinous deeds are still played seriously.

username2527 Since: Nov, 2013
#71979: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:15:28 AM

Three murders are enough to be this trope? Haven't we voted down characters with higher body counts before? See, this is why this trope needs to stay YMNV.

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#71980: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:18:14 AM

No to Walter. Three murders might be meeting the baseline but I don't think it is quite enough for actually be this trope.

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#71981: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:48:55 AM

To be fair, several ace attorney CM's, Agitha Trunchbull, and Nacho have lower body counts than three.

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#71982: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:59:19 AM

The Trunchbull's got the whole "torturing children" thing going for her. As for Nacho... wasn't there some discussion a long while back to actually cut him?

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#71983: Nov 20th 2016 at 7:01:33 AM

This thread is dead, isn't it? Asking here because it's a metathread to this one.

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#71984: Nov 20th 2016 at 7:07:44 AM

Looks like it hasn't had activity for over two years. I'd say it's dead.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#71985: Nov 20th 2016 at 7:16:41 AM

I'm sure if I looked (I just don't want to tongue ) I could find some entries with 3. I personally think it's enough, if only barely (now, if those murders are of children, or exceptionally painful, then it's clearly enough).

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#71986: Nov 20th 2016 at 7:23:17 AM

I'll bring up one of my own candidates for a villain that solidly counts for this trope even in spite of a relatively low body count... my good man Eric Gorman. He's got three murders and another two attempted. Why he counts? His murders are of an amazingly grisly sort; he sews a man's mouth shut and leaves him to be devoured by wild animals, throws his own wife to be torn apart by crocodiles while watching the spectacle with a smile, and strikes the rest of his victims down with mamba venom. From what I read, Walter lacks that especially cruel edge to push him into Monster territory.

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#71987: Nov 20th 2016 at 8:37:41 AM

Not sure if it's been said already but apparently Minister Jarvis' dub name is Minister Alva. Should his entry be tweaked to mention this?

@ACW: The problem with Zorc Necophedes is that there are three of him in an unholy trinity and two of them can't qualify due to the Dark God himself being possibly Made of Evil and the Dark Priest being depicted as a tragic character who did care about his son. The third one, however, is Dark Bakura, and he's already an example. In fact, the Dark God Zorc we see in the Memory World arc is actually a game piece controlled directly by him, which is made a lot clearer in the anime version.

edited 20th Nov '16 8:42:30 AM by ANewMan

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#71988: Nov 20th 2016 at 8:57:17 AM

[up] I just requested that addition for Jarvis. Honestly, that seems backward. Alva sounds somewhat foreign; Jarvis...does not sound at all Japanese [lol]

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#71989: Nov 20th 2016 at 10:37:59 AM

  • Mai-HiME fanfiction Perfection Is Overrated: Kirihara Hitomi is the first SUE to encounter the protagonists, and by far the most evil one. Initially bored with spending her time mind-controlling people to rob them, after being forced to kill a police officer and a witness, she discovered her darker hobbies. In the appropriately-titled chapter "Moral Event Horizon", Hitomi proceeds to commit her two most vile crimes. First, she brainwashed a police officer to slaughter twenty innocent people—including a baby, because her cries annoyed herand commit suicide when he's done; then, she mind-controlled another officer into raping and killing his wife, only freeing him of her control to let him discover the act, before killing him as well. The first event was notably horrible enough to convince Nao to join the HiMEs to stop her. After capturing Mai with a mind-controlled Natsuki, Hitomi tried to torture her with her child's powers. She's only stopped from doing so by Shizuru's intervention, and dies from her child's destruction—which would normally result in the death of the person she valued most—showing how self-centered she is. In the end, Kirihara Hitomi is a sadistic sociopath who committed all of her crimes solely for her own amusement.
  • Cthulhu: Reverend Marsh is the current leader of the Esoteric Order of Dagon and a man awash in his own fanaticism. The father of professor Russell Marsh, Reverend Marsh presides over the Order's secretive machinations through the town of Rivermouth, kidnapping dozens of children and sacrificing them en masse to the Deep Ones. Heavily hinted to have murdered his own wife once she tried to steer Russ away from Marsh's plot, Marsh has a blind child raped, murdered, and nailed to a house once he defies the Order's contro,l and orchestrates his own son's rape to birth him an heir in preparation for the coming apocalypse as the world is swallowed by the sea. After gunning down Rivermouth's sheriff and his partner and showing Russ his eldritch child, Marsh ends the film goading his son to succeed him by having Russ murder his lover Mike as the Order succeeds in awakening the Deep Ones and dooming the world; it is not revealed if Russ kills Mike or the Reverend.
  • Speed: Howard Payne, feeling "cheated" by his former police department for giving him what he saw as a pathetic severance package after he lost a finger on the job, became obsessed with getting the money he believes he is owed. To this end, Payne rigs an elevator filled with people to drop them to their deaths unless he is paid $3 million, and quickly tries to kill the hostages when he believes the police are trying to save them. After failing at this plan, Payne blows up a commuter bus in front of SWAT team member Jack Traven, then reveals he has planted a bomb on another bus filled with innocents, stating that until he gets $3.7 million, the bus will have to stay above 50 mph lest it explode. When an elderly woman tries to get off the bus, Payne detonates a mini bomb that kills her, and, after the police seemingly locate him, Payne reveals it was a trap and blows up the numerous SWAT team members sent to arrest him, a fact that he happily taunts Jack about. After Jack manages to save the hostages, Payne takes Jack's Love Interest hostage, planning to blow her up as a distraction for the police while he makes his getaway, and guns down an innocent man when he attempts to alert the authorities to Payne. Smug and with a creepily cheerful personality even whilst committing his various atrocities, Howard Payne took his feelings of being "cheated" by the government way too far, refusing to see any reason and showing a sick sadism that all reveal him to be nothing but a homicidal monster.
  • Turbo Kid: Zeus, a vicious tyrant who fancies himself a grandiose emperor, rules over the post-apocalyptic Wastelands with an iron fist and enjoys brutalizing as many people as possible. Flashbacks show him violently murdering the Kid's parents for refusing to tell him where they got their water, which he considered stealing from him, and leaving the Kid to die in the desert. Years later, Zeus has cemented a monopoly over potable water in the Wastelands, and has his henchmen bring back on a spike the head of anyone who has angered him. His warriors also regularly abduct people in the region and force them into bloody Gladiator Games where the losers are put into a machine that crushes them to death and extracts the water in their body, the real source of Zeus's water. When the heroes manage to win in the arena against his champions, Zeus tries to have them executed anyway and send his men after them when they escape. Zeus later tortures junk dealer Bagu for information, only to slowly disembowel him to death anyway after he learned everything he wanted to know. In the final confrontation against the protagonists, Zeus reveals that he is a robot who killed his own creator, and considers human beings as nothing more than pests to be eradicated.
  • Ultra Series:
    • Ultraman: The Next: In this prequel to Ultraman Nexus, Beast the One, also called simply The One, is a parasite from space. Fleeing from its enemy, Ultraman The Next, it escapes into Earth's oceans and attacks a submarine, killing everyone on board and taking Udo Takafumi as a host. Udo is slowly and painfully eaten alive, physically and mentally, with The One absorbing his memories to pose as Udo. After absorbing enough organic matter to escape, The One murders his way out of prison and flees into the wilderness. When led into a trap by Udo's fiancee Sara, it poses as Udo to try and prey on her feelings before attempting to kill her when the deception falls through. After escaping again, it flees into the sewers, eating and killing every human it comes across. This is when we find out that, rather than following Blue-and-Orange Morality, it talks, thinks along very human lines, and deeply enjoys killing people. It does not prey on humans for sustenance, as simpler creatures like lizards, rats and crows enhance its powers; it preys upon them for pleasure. At one point, after taking on its true gigantic form, it laughs while destroying the city, gloating and bellowing for the humans to run in terror. What made The One stand out over most of the other kaiju before or since was its utter sadism. It's a Psycho for Hire that deeply enjoyed killing and eating humans, in some ways worse than its creator. It is not a wild animal, or a tragic beast—just a monster.
    • Ultraman Saga: Alien Bat is a genocidal tyrant from another world. Coming to an alternate Earth, he brings with him a giant insectoid monster named Hyper Zetton, and feeds nearly all of humanity, rougly 6 billion except a few dozen survivors in Japan, to Hyper Zetton just to give it a power upgrade. He then spends the rest of the movie torturing said survivors, sending Kaiju to torment them, while gloating about how powerful his creatures are. When Ultraman Dyna comes to free the people from Hyper Zetton, Alien Bat has Dyna turned to stone after having Zetton beat Dyna almost to death. Eventually, two more Ultramen, Cosmos and Zero, come to save this alternate Earth, and start by freeing two of Bat's kaiju from his control. The instant both monsters agree to leave peacefully, Bat immediately murders both monsters in front of Cosmos. When his plans come to fruition, Bat merges with Hyper Zetton and gleefully beats all three Ultramen almost to death, gloating about how his now power makes him a god.
  • Moonraker: Hugo Drax is a cold, snobbish, understated executive who wishes to exterminate the human race, except for those he considers "superior beings". To this end, Drax captures men and women whom he sees as physically perfect, planning to keep these people in his giant space station while he covers the earth in a rare toxin that will kill every human being on earth. When one of his Moonraker space shuttles is hijacked, Bond is sent to investigate. Fearing that Bond will discover his plans, Drax sends his assassins to kill him, not doing the job himself because he wants Bond's death to amuse him. When he discovers that his personal pilot, Corrine Dufour, helped Bond uncover his plan, he fires her, then sends his dogs out to rip her apart. After he tells Bond his plan, he traps him and one of his scientists, Dr. Holly Goodhead, under one of his rockets, planning on burning the both of them. When he discovers Bond and Goodhead on his space station, he threatens to shoot them both out the airlock. When Bond corners him after his plans are failing, Drax finds a gun and threatens to shoot him, knowing that he'll at least "have the pleasure of putting [Bond] out of my misery". Drax is a chilling, dark villain who stands out in such a campy, silly movie.
  • Dracula: Count Dracula himself is the Trope Codifier for the modern vampire. A hideous, blood-sucking monster, Dracula commits a number of crimes over the course of the novel, including keeping Jonathan Harker prisoner and trying to drive him insane; kidnapping a baby to feed to his fellow vampires, before sending wolves to kill the mother when she demands her baby back; driving his own servant, Renfield, to madness; attacking Lucy and her mother in the form of a wolf before draining her blood and turning her into a vampire; and turning Mina into a vampire to uncover his enemies' plans against him. Dracula ultimately plans to move to England so that he can feast on the people of London to his heart's content. Lacking the redeeming qualities or physical attractiveness of his future incarnations, the original Dracula is an undead abomination, devoid of humanity and worthy of no sympathy.
  • Notorious (2016): Alan Wells, at 24 years old, raped his own sister Sarah when she was only 17. As a result, she ends up pregnant and he later threatens to have the baby girl, who's been adopted, taken away, in order to force Sarah to pay off his gambling debts. When she eventually refuses to continue, Alan conspires with her husband Oscar Keaton against her and murders her in a brutal stabbing. When the blame is turned onto Oscar's publicist Levi Young, it results in Levi shooting and killing himself. When Jake Gregorian's affair with Sarah comes to light and he becomes a suspect, Alan tricks Jake into going to a storage locker where he's hidden the knife so he can set Jake up. When Julia George and Jake later figure out the truth, Alan proves to only be out for his own self-preservation and cares nothing for those lives ruined by his actions.
  • Sharpe: Sergeant Obadiah Hakeswill, from "Sharpe's Company" and "Sharpe's Enemy", lacks any of his book counterpart's redeeming qualities, however minor, while still maintaining his heinousness. Sharpe's Arch-Enemy, Hakeswill was a Sociopathic Soldier who was responsible for sentencing Sharpe to a flogging he knew would be a death sentence, before Sharpe was saved after receiving 200 lashes. An abusive bully to his men, Hakeswill regularly subjects soldiers to floggings to extort sexual favors from their wives and tries to rape Sharpe's wife Teresa. When Sharpe's best friend Harper stops him, Hakeswill frames him for a theft, resulting in his brutal flogging. Murdering one of his own soldiers to use his body as cover in the heat of battle, Hakeswill kills another soldier and tries to rape Teresa again. Hakeswill deserts the army before raping and murdering Sally Clayton, an innocent woman he's lusted after. Becoming the leader of a group of vicious bandits, Hakeswill waylays a group of noble women and is only stopped from raping them by warnings that it will damage the ransom value. When he learns Sharpe is bringing the ransom, Hakeswill doubles it at the last minute and allows his men to rape the non-noble women and tries to rape the nobles anyways. When Teresa stops him, Hakeswill fatally shoots her before being captured and facing the firing squad for his crimes. A beast of a man who lives only for rape and murder, Hakeswill is perfectly summed up by Sharpe when his luck comes to an end:
    "A liar. A thief. A rapist. A murderer. That's not a man. Take it away."
  • Ultraman Nexus: Dark Zagi, alias Unknown Hand, is an evil, heartless, genocidal tyrant from another world. Created to be a force for justice, a clone of Ultraman Noa, instead he chose to kill off his creators, slaughtering so many of their people that they abandoned their planet and destroyed it to be rid of him. Zagi survived, and simply created an army of Space Beasts, including Beast the One, to take over the universe. He sent that monster to Earth, making him indirectly responsible for everything that went wrong in Ultraman: The Next. In the series proper, Zagi was beaten before the events of the series and destroyed, leaving behind his energy core and his soul. To restore his power, he possesses a random man, killing him slowly and taking over his body. Crafting the alias of Mitsuhiko Ishibori, Zagi starts a long gambit to regain his powers, sending Space Beasts across Japan and creating two more Dark Giants to attack Nexus and kill as many people as they can. At one point, Zagi actually kills a little girl's parents right in front of her and laughs about it. Eventually, Zagi succeeds in his gambit, and reveals himself by casually shooting his loyal partner in TLT. Nagi Saijyo, the girl Zagi personally orphaned, chases him and confronts him with the power of Ultraman Nexus. Zagi, who's revealed himself as Ishibori, simply mocks her, captures her, and tortures Nexus's power out of her body before absorbing it into himself and regaining his true form. Ascending to Tokyo, he orders all of his Space Beasts to attack the entire planet while he personally rampages through the city. Zagi was a remorseless, twisted killing machine, and died completely unrepentant of his crimes.
  • Omega Red is a sociopathic former soldier of the Soviet Union who was turned into a Super-Soldier by his superiors, whom he quickly attempted to betray before being locked away. Being released from his confinement 25 years later by Russian generals seeking to conquer their homeland, Omega Red happily leads brutal assaults against numerous cities and villages, killing many people, with any survivors being thrown into prison camps, and reducing their homes and businesses to rubble, after which he attempts to kill the current leaders of the Russian government. When the X-Men arrive to stop his hostile takeover, Omega Red takes the little sister of Colossus hostage, sadistically draining her life force while her older brother watches. After being frozen solid after failing to kill dozens of survivors of his attacks along with the X-Men, Omega Red is unthawed many months later by the US government, who send him to safely recover a submarine carrying nuclear missiles. Once on the mission, along with Wolverine and Storm, Omega Red betrays everyone and reveals his plans to fire the nuclear warheads at 15 of the world's largest cities, then watch as the millions of innocents burn before conquering whatever of humanity is left following the nuclear fallout of his strikes. Omega Red cheerfully tries to slowly kill Wolverine and Storm, and, after their teammates thwart his plan, he decides to settle with simply wiping out the coastal state of Hawaii just to spite the X-Men. A truly fanatical madman convinced that the Soviet Union is the pinnacle of human civilization, Omega Red represents the sheer mass murdering mania that the Soviet Union was known for.
  • Avengers Assemble:
    • Red Skull, after his initial defeat, attacks the Avengers at their mansion. When that attack fails, Red Skull attempts to blow up the reactor at the Avengers Mansion, so that the Avengers will die and be blamed for an explosion that would kill countless civilians. Later, Red Skull forms a team of super villains known as the Cabal, to counter the Avengers and assist in his plans for conquest. While fighting with the Avengers to obtain the Tesseract, Red Skull launches two missiles, possibly nuclear-tipped at both Los Angeles and Las Vegas, forcing the Avengers to choose which city they would want to save and, even though both cities are saved, this distraction allows Skull to escape with the Tesseract. After obtaining the Tesseract, Red Skull decides he doesn't need his allies anymore and attempts to murder them. Red Skull then uses the power of the Tesseract to launch attacks on several cities around the world at once, ultimately planning to burn down the old world, so that a new one can take its place.
    • Nighthawk, despite being an Arc Villain, manages to be one of the most depraved characters in the series. Years ago, Nighthawk and his Dragon, Hyperion, fanatically believing that they were "heroes" whose idea of "order" was best for their world, formed a group of super powered beings called The Squadron Supreme, and convinced them to conquer said homeworld. When said world proved too resistant to their rule, Nighthawk and Hyperion forced an innocent man to absorb the Power Prism, join the Squad, and destroy their entire planet. In the present, Nighthawk arrives on Earth and threatens to annihilate entire cities for every hour that the Earth doesn't surrender to him, and, after this initial defeat, regularly puts hundreds of innocents in danger, often times simply as distractions, with his various plans to kill the Avengers. After seemingly destroying the Avengers, Nighthawk and the Squadron turn the world into a Totalitarian Utilitarian society where innocents are threatened with death if they don't adhere to their rules, while Nighthawk personally keeps the hero Thor as his prisoner to witness the Earth's subjugation. When the Avengers return and foil Nighthawk's plans, he and Hyperion activate their backup plan: For Hyperion to destroy the entire Earth, leaving the rest of their squadmates to die in the process, then repeating their plans over again on other worlds until they find one "worthy" of their rule. A manipulative mastermind who, though regularly preaching that he only wanted what was best for humans, was fully willing to wipe them out should they resist him, Nighthawk refused to see that he was far worse than the various "evils" he claimed to be fighting.
    • The aforementioned Hyperion manages to be just as wicked as his so-called "leader", Nighthawk. Contrasting with Nighthawk's cold cruelty, Hyperion is a childish psychopath who, after their home world rejected the Squadron's rule, went on a rampage to wipe out everything in his path before blowing up the entire planet alongside Nighthawk. When first arriving on Earth, Hyperion tries to make himself look like a hero, before his true colors begin to show when he tries to murder a petty crook and threatens a child's life for calling him a bully. Teaming up with the Cabal for a considerable time, Hyperion happily assists them with their crimes for a chance at killing the Avengers for humiliating him by ousting him as the madman he is. After reforming the Squadron with Nighthawk, Hyperion and the Squadron commit numerous atrocities, such as turning the Avengers into villains and siccing them onto New York or trying to cause dozens of buildings full of people to fall on top of each other, all in attempts at domination. Once the Avengers are seemingly killed, the Squadron dominates the Earth, with Hyperion continuing to show more brutality than his other squadmates by vaporizing numerous Atlanteans, before blowing up an entire compound in order to kill the surviving world leaders on the run from the Squadron. When the Avengers thwart their plans once more, Hyperion sucks the power out of his partner, then tries to blow up the entire Earth, at which point he and Nighthawk plan to travel to other worlds to dominate. Genocidal, petty, and arrogant beyond belief, Hyperion, who almost always wears a smug smile while carrying out his heinous deeds, sticks out as one of the most powerful enemies the Avengers have faced, along with one of the most wicked.
  • Eternal Sonata: Count Waltz is the 16-year-old ruler of Forte City who is responsible for all of the suffering throughout the game. Aspiring to dominate the world, Waltz oversees the manufacturing of a mutagenic substance he dubs mineral powder. Marketing it as a miraculous cure all for illnesses, Waltz aims to create Super Soldiers to wage war with Baroque; extensive use of the drug drives its user to madness after which their soul is trapped in a perpetual purgatory unable to move on. Concluding that beings known as the "glowing agogos" should increase the potency of the concoction, he tasks his henchmen with acquiring the creatures. Waltz becomes displeased upon realizing that his spy—Claves— had fallen in love with the leader of Andantino—a rebel group out to overthrow him—and he sends Rondo to kill her, a fact that he mocks Jazz with later on. Learning that the agogos only glowed in Polka's presence, Waltz slaps her to the ground, and turns his dragons onto the group despite him saying that he'd spare them. Always a sore loser, he forces his advisor, Legato, to drink the unfinished mineral powder, transforming him into a horrid monster called the Ruined Body. Refusing to accept defeat, Waltz orders Legato to destroy everything, saying if he couldn't rule the world, it may as well shouldn't exist. Power-hungry and alarmingly casual in his atrocities, Waltz saw experimenting on his own subjects as a necessary step towards total domination.
  • Shadow Raiders: The Beast Generals, the malevolent servitors of the world-devouring Beast Planet who help their master The Beast scourge entire solar systems and destroy all worlds within them, each qualify in their own right:
    • Lamprey is a master of deceit and subterfuge who weakens worlds from the inside out through complex gambits, occasionally pausing to murder people who cross her path for little other reason than to amuse herself. Lamprey introduces herself tricking Emperor Femur into installing a device meant to drain all the life from Planet Bone. After this, Lamprey possesses Tekla and tries to use her to destroy the Alliance from the inside out, contenting herself with subjecting her to horrific Mind Rape of her planet's destruction and trying to slowly kill her from the inside once this fails. After this fails, Lamprey murders a resident of Planet Fire and pins it on Jade's hands, intending for her to be horribly executed by being dipped into a fall of lava. Lamprey's final crimes in the series stem purely from petty spite: Seeking revenge against Tekla, Lamprey has her Beast drones attack a bar with the intent to kill everyone inside, personally disintegrates Captain Blaze once he gets in her way, and furiously attempts to kill everyone who stands between her and Tekla before her own demise.
    • Blokk is a brutish warrior who firmly believes in the power of absolute force over everything else, preferring to overrun worlds through his armada to destroy all they see whilst basking in the carnage. Blokk's repeated attempts to attack the planets in the Cluster result in numerous deaths and the successful destruction of Planet Jungle. Blokk personally attempts to trick Cryos into killing his own daughter whilst leaving his planet vulnerable, and grows more and more vicious after his repeated punishments at the hand of the Beast. In the finale of the series, Blokk takes over Planet Rock by force by besting and killing Lord Mantle, while promising to give the Alliance members he's captured—two children among them—a slow death at the Beast's hands. Once he's left stranded on Rock, Blokk slaughters his way to Rock's World Engine, personally executes Feldspar, and sets the entire planet on a collision course with the nearest star out of sheer spite.

edited 21st Nov '16 8:40:09 AM by ACW

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#71990: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:21:25 AM

I like the Dracula rewritte but why removing the part about sending wolves on the baby's mother?

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The 47th President
#71991: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:21:12 PM

[up][up] What about John Curtis' write up?

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MiraiYuji Since: Dec, 2015
#71992: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:56:59 PM

[up]Next week too. ACW said it in a previous page.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#71993: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:24:22 PM

Yeah, I wanna give FW time to edit Replicator if he wants too.

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#71994: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:33:20 PM

Also, ACW, on X-Men, did you have to redirect the entries to Marvel Animation? There were only four; not necessarily enough to move them off the YMMV page.

Why so serious?
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Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#71995: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:37:25 PM

@ACW: Call of Duty image looks better. [tup]

I'm gonna [tdown] Walter—not because his body count isn't high enough, but because he doesn't strike me as being that horrific. As we've stated before, you don't need a high body count to be a CM.

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DeCarta Since: May, 2011
#71996: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:37:57 PM

[tup] to Gargorgon.

[tdown] to Walter Paisley; sounds like he has some mental issues that affect his moral agency, and he doesn't strike me as overly heinous.

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#71997: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:52:11 PM

Weekly effortpost schedule:

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#71998: Nov 20th 2016 at 2:04:44 PM

[up][up][up][up] Eh, it struck me as doable. I could change it back; I don't have a strong preference either way.
Any more thoughts on the Call of Duty image (or quote)?

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#71999: Nov 20th 2016 at 2:10:29 PM

[up] The page quote's fine. The image quote is a bit wordy given what he's doing, but I'm not all that picky about it.

[down] Looks great now. [tup]

edited 20th Nov '16 2:22:21 PM by Tyk5919

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