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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

Camberf Since: Jan, 2012
#65426: Aug 7th 2016 at 7:23:54 AM

So now that it’s been two weeks, I’ll bring up the Season 14 Red Vs Blue episodes 9-11; “Club”, “Call” and “Consequences”.

These episodes take place in the past, and feature resident CM Felix and his partner Locus back when they were bounty hunters. Basically they, along with another bounty hunter named Siris, kidnap Gabriel Lozano, the son of a wealthy criminal named Ruben Lozano, for the bounty on his head, intending to turn him over to the police. However, Lozano apparently has a man on the inside of the police department, and has his son’s record erased. Felix gets the idea to hold Gabriel for ransom, and manages to convince Locus that it’s the right thing to do because they’d be taking money away from Ruben.

However, Ruben is a real piece of shit who doesn’t care for his son at all, but still intends to kill Locus and Felix for making him look bad. He and his men show up, a firefight ensues, and the three bounty hunters survive.

Now, Felix doesn’t appear to be the monster here that he is in the future, but I don’t believe that these episodes disqualify him. He’s given no tragic backstory or Freudian Excuse, and while he doesn’t do anything bad enough to add to his entry, he does display some of the greed and ability to manipulate Locus which came to define his character. He also seems to have a slight camaraderie by the end of the episodes with the other bounty hunters, at least enough to thank Siris for coming back and saving the two of them after he had left because Ruben wasn’t aware of him, but it’s very minor and Felix displays nothing of the sort by the time seasons 12 and 13 come around. I wouldn’t consider him to be real friends with either Locus or Siris, even in the past.

The episodes do reveal that Felix's real name is Isaac Gates, so we could add that to his entry if we want.

edited 7th Aug '16 7:28:08 AM by Camberf

OccasionalExister Since: Jul, 2012
#65427: Aug 7th 2016 at 7:31:43 AM

Has anyone claimed discussing Deus Ex: Mankind Divided candidates yet? If not I'd like to do so. If someone already has... Well, shoot. Curse your quicker reflexes.

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#65429: Aug 7th 2016 at 8:14:59 AM

[up][up] Nobody seems to have claimed any video games except for three other ones. Which is surprising.

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
OccasionalExister Since: Jul, 2012
#65430: Aug 7th 2016 at 8:16:59 AM

[up][up]Thanks for the link, just added myself.

Awesomekid42 Lord of Hell Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Lord of Hell
#65431: Aug 7th 2016 at 8:47:43 AM

[tup] To Judge.

Also, just came back from Suicide Squad (2016). Wasn't that good, but wouldn't call it bad either.

Also, I don't think anybody qualifies in it for when we discuss it in the 19th.

edited 7th Aug '16 8:48:28 AM by Awesomekid42

Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#65432: Aug 7th 2016 at 8:49:00 AM

Speaking of that list, I called dibs for Scream: TV Series.

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
therealjackieboy Carrot Clone from Austin, TX Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Carrot Clone
#65433: Aug 7th 2016 at 9:02:21 AM

[tup] Emperor, Animated!Ronan, and the Judge

"It doesn't matter anymore. You win. It is Duck Season."
DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#65434: Aug 7th 2016 at 9:39:00 AM

[tup] Judge.

edited 7th Aug '16 9:39:30 AM by DemonDuckofDoom

Ravok RIP Toriyama Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
RIP Toriyama
#65435: Aug 7th 2016 at 9:45:49 AM

'Yes' to the Judge.

And yeah, Felix still counts. Nothing in his backstory gives him an excuse or anything, and while he has a slight sense of comradery, that's obviously long gone by the Chorus trilogy.

Anywho, time for Thanos.

Who is he?

Thanos. The Mad Titan. An omnicidal egomaniac who refers to himself in the third-person way more than is healthy.

Also, the other Big Bad of the series.

What has he done?

First of all, Thanos is stated numerous times throughout the show to have performed horrifying experiments on his "children", Nebula, Korath, and Gamora, to turn them into living weapons for him to control.

Though the actual experiments are never shown onscreen, we see the results of his experiments on all of them, with Nebula and Gamora both traumatized by what he did, and, in Gamora's case, she is often haunted at the countless people Thanos had her murder in his name (THIS is onscreen, if obscured by flames and shadows).

Oh, and Thanos also murdered Gamora's parents when she was a child and butchered her entire species, leaving her as the last of her kind before performing said experiments on her and turning her into his weapon. Yay....

First showing up in the premiere episodes, Thanos learns that Star Lord might know a way to find the Cosmic Seed, an ancient artifact of immense power, and sends his Dragon, also his "son", Korath, after him, and when Korath admits he (temporarily) lost an important device to Star Lord, Thanos responds by torturously electrocuting him for his incompetence.

Following Star Lord to Knowhere, a moon-sized outpost filled with hundreds of people, Thanos orders an assault on the outpost in an attempt to capture Star Lord.

Failing at this, Thanos orders the entire outpost destroyed just to show what happens when anyone defies the WILL OF THANOS! (He says that alot...)

The Guardians manage to save Knowhere, and escape Thanos' clutches for the moment.

Later, it is revealed that Star Lord's father, J'son, has been working with Thanos, and makes way for Thanos to capture his son, in exchange for Thanos promising to annihilate Asgard (An entire realm of Norse-based civilization that J'son hates with a passion).

Grabbing Star Lord, Thanos reveals he does indeed plan to destroy Asgard once he gets the Cosmic Seed....along with everything else.

Star Lord: "Wait, when you say, "Along with everything else" do you mean you're gonna destroy the entire GALAXY?!"

Thanos: "Why stop there?"

Bringing Star Lord to his ship, Thanos begins painfully torturing him to try to force him to reveal the location of the Cosmic Seed, however Star Lord refuses (Not even knowing himself).

Thanos learns from Star Lord about the Cryptocube, a device that will lead him to the Cosmic Seed, and mentally attacks him with images of his mother dying in an attempt to get him to activate the Cryptocube. Prick.

Thanos manages to open the Cryptocube, and when the Guardians steal it from him, he responds by creating a black hole to destroy everyone present, and it drags in many of his own minions in the process.

The Guardians manage to knock Thanos into the portal, seemingly killing him.

However, Thanos returns to usurp the role of Final Villain from Ronan, and steals the Cosmic Seed from the Guardians before proclaiming himself the new master of the universe.

Thanos begins terraforming Earth into a huge, plant-like weapon he plans to use as a superweapon to wreak destruction across the cosmos, and while the Guardians manage to stall him temporarily, he ends up in New York City, where he immediately destroys numerous buildings and attacks any civilians he can.

Ronan tries to destroy both Thanos and the entire Earth with a quantum bomb, however this fails and Thanos tries to murder the Guardians before having the Seed ripped from him by the Power of Friendship (Not AS corny as it sounds). He then gets hit by a freaking train before being dragged down into the Earth by his own plant monsters. Ouch.

And so, the day is saved, thanks to the Guardians of the Galaxy! Woo-hoo, yay....

Freudian Excuse or other redeeming qualities?

None.

Heinousness?

Guy's got torture, Mind Rape, massacring entire races of people, turning innocents into his brainwashed and tortured "children", numerous planetary assaults and attempted mass murders, and planned Omnicide , simply because he's a psychopathic egomaniac, all under his belt.

Overall, he doesn't have as many crimes as Ronan, but this is due to a lack of screentime. And even then, his massacre of Gamora's people, murdering her parents and turning her into a Mind Raped weapon, along with his planned Omnicide, are probably two of the three single worst crimes in the series (The third one being Ronan's genocide of the Groot race).

So, while Ronan has more crimes, Thanos' crimes are arguably a mite more wicked on a personal, sadistic level. He's also got planned Omnicide, so yay for him.

GDV?

At first, he seems to have little personality beyond that of an omnicidal lunatic, however, by the end of the series, there is one recurring factor of his personality that gives him enough characterization (Besides his blatantly sadistic Blood Knight tendencies): He is such a Large Ham convinced of his own power that he's just plain entertaining to watch.

Every other line he proclaims (He doesn't say things. He PROCLAIMS them) involves him referring to himself in the third-person and talking about how AMAZING his power is in the most arrogant and ego-stroking way possible.

"Who DARES defy the MIGHT OF THANOS?!"

"There is no good or evil. There is ONLY the WILL OF THANOS!"

"This feeble display of unity may have defeated lesser beings like Ronan, but it will take MUCH more than that to bring down THANOS!"

I swear, the guy is a walking Ego trip, and it makes him (Probably unintentionally) Laughably Evil, ending up with him as probably the most fun villain to watch on the show, without him actually being played for laughs or anything like that.

Final Verdict?

Firm Keeper. No excuses or redeeming features, enough personality to not be a GDV, and easily heinous enough

edited 7th Aug '16 9:50:20 AM by Ravok

Tonight I dine on monkey soup.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65436: Aug 7th 2016 at 9:52:21 AM

[tup]Emperor, Thanos, Ronan, and the Judge.

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#65437: Aug 7th 2016 at 9:55:31 AM

I'll give a yes to the Guardians duo and the Emperor. I should be able to see Suicide Squad some time this week, maybe Tuesday.

edited 7th Aug '16 9:56:18 AM by Scraggle

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
Beast from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#65440: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:41:37 AM

[tup] Thanos

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."
thok That's Dr. Title, thank you! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
That's Dr. Title, thank you!
#65441: Aug 7th 2016 at 10:42:26 AM

Here's an effort post for Damien of El Goonish Shive, to support the webcomic effort.

Who is he

In the world of El Goonish Shive, there is a prophesy that a Human/Alien hybrid, or Seyunolu who is creature of power and a master of fire would unite the Seyunolu outcasts of the world. A group (who we never see) decided to stop waiting for the prophecy to come true and made Damien.

What has he done

First some backstory; during the same time period when Damien was being created, another company got the brilliant idea to develop Seyunolu assassins, and developed three beta test models. On learning about the Damien project and realizing that they might be a target, they developed a fourth Seyunolu (Grace, one of the main characters of El Goonish Shive) to deliberately match up well to what they knew about Damien.

Now onto Damien. You know that company making assassins I just spent a paragraph describing? Damien slaughters them all. The only survivors are the four Seyunolus, who Damien wants as minions and deliberately intimidates into following him by slaughtering employees of the company in front of him, and Dr. Sciuridae, a whistleblower who had been pulled out of the assassination company in preparation for a government crackdown on it.

A few years later, Grace escapes from Damien and seeks help in dealing with Damien. In response, Damien orders one of the other Seyunolu's (Hedge) to retrieve her; Hedge is threatened with death if he doesn't return with anything. Which is why Hedge kidnaps Elliot, one of the people Grace met when searching for help and another main character of El Goonish Shive (he's not a Seyunolu, but has a similar shape shifting power at the time). Damien, of course, rewards Hedge by hitting him for not bringing back Grace. He also keeps Elliot tied up and refuses to provide him food until he provides useful information to him.

A small group (Grace and two others) go to Damien's hideout to try to rescue Elliot. Grace gets captured and gets some exposition from Damien and Dr. Sciuridae (who Damien kidnapped to have him figure out where Grace had run off to). During the exposition, we learn that Damien is planning on slowly building an army of Seyunolu to wipe out all humans, and wants Grace for her breeding potential (as she's the only female Seyunolu he knows of.)

The other two who came with Grace break in, while at the same time Elliot escapes, and cue climatic fight between them and Damien's minions. Damien prepares to kill them all, at which point Grace starts fighting Damien, and actually hurts him (he's the page quote for Strong, but Unskilled, and she was built to match up well with him). In response, Damien has a bit of a breakdown: he was supposed to be a God and used that to justify killing the group that created him as heretics when they questioned his decision to "rescue" the Seyunolu prototypes from the company that made him minions. Grace offers him a chance to surrender, and Damien responds by attacking Grace completely ineffectively, and then deciding to do a Taking You with Me self destruct on Grace, on the theory that if he's a god then his body is irrelevant, and if he's not a god, then he doesn't want to keep living. (This doesn't work, but only because an outside context character protects Grace from Damien's self-destruction.)

Heinous Standard

While we aren't shown his murders on-screen, we see enough in the way of flashbacks and dialogue reactions to verify that they happened. I can't give an exact number for his murders, but "basically everybody at a small company that developed 4 prototype assassins + a bunch of people who created him" seems like enough to pass the absolute heinous standard, especially since he's planning more.

I'm also comfortable saying he's the relative heinous standard in El Goonish Shive. There are other attempted murders in El Goonish Shive, but nothing on the implied scale of what Damien has done, and certainly nothing on the scale of what Damien is planning to do.

Freudian Excuses, Redeeming Factors, etc

Damien has no redeeming factors. He's repeatedly show to be a Bad Boss to his fellow Seyunolus, hitting them for failure and threatening to kill them. (The three non-Grace Seyunolus do Heel-Face Turns after Damien's death and are slowly integrated into society). He also killed many of the people who created him and worshiped him as a God. And those are the people he's supposed to be leading!

On the other hand, Damien has what seems to be a decent Freudian excuse, in terms of being raised as a tykebomb. It's unclear that justifies his Am God Am I complex that makes him believe he has an Omniscient Morality License, but it partially explains why he has it. I'd argue that even if you believe you are a god, that doesn't justify murder, but there's clearly a debate to be had. It's worth pointing out that the prophecy that justified making Damien is about uniting the Seyunolus, not killing non-Seyunolus.

Final Verdict

You guys have a better feel about whether the Freudian excuse is a disqualifier than I do. It's the only thing that's a reasonable disqualifier. I'm giving him a [tup].

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
FriedWarthog Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#65443: Aug 7th 2016 at 11:11:16 AM

[tup] to Ronan and Thanos, both of whom are kinda making me want to watch the show since they both sound incredibly entertaining to watch.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#65445: Aug 7th 2016 at 11:55:17 AM

[tup] to The Emperor of the Night, Ronan, the Judge, Thanos, and Damien.

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#65446: Aug 7th 2016 at 11:57:50 AM

[tup] Damien, though I thought he was already brought up on the forum.

Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
#65447: Aug 7th 2016 at 12:46:52 PM

[tup]Thanos.

Anyways, I brought this up before, but barely anyone responded. On Secret Six.

  • Complete Monster: Dwarfstar is a crazy, misogynistic serial killer. His first words to Bane upon joining the Six is a question of how many women he's killed. Sure, Cheshire is bad, but Dwarfstar is completely and utterly repugnant even when compared to her. Given the team's current membership, however (an immortal, immensely strong banshee, a sociopathic female assassin, and a giantess) he probably won't be alive much longer. Bane takes an instant dislike to him. After failing to kill Ryan Choi after so long, he hired Deathstroke's Titans team to kill Choi. And he wanted a miniature corpse in a matchbox for a trophy, which he received with a big shit-eating smile on his face. For that, Gigantic beat him with his own belt so badly that it broke every bone in his body. Unfortunately, based on the latest issue of Titans, he's still clinging to life in a Louisiana hospital. He told Ray Palmer that it was Deathstroke who murdered Ryan, and Ray pointed out that Slade probably won't take kindly to this development.

This entry makes him sound more like a Jerkass than a monster. Other than the "misogynistic serial killer" line and killing Choi, he doesn't sound like he stands out much. Could this entry possibly be rewritten?

Why so serious?
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#65448: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:07:12 PM

  • Magi: Labyrinth of Magic:
    • King David Jehoahz Abraham is the King of Alma Torran of the past and the ruler of the Magicians. As King, David oppresses all non-human species in his empire with magic towers constructed to steal their reason and intellect, turning them into feral, mindless beasts under the control of the human ruling class. Having discovered the form of "Ill Ilah," an Eldritch Abomination known as God, David makes plans to surpass it and take a seat as God himself. When his son Solomon rebels against David's tyranny, David bides his time until Solomon and his True Companions attack David's capital. David lets them attack a decoy, before leading his magicians in his own entourage to butcher the helpless civilians, including the children. The young son of two of Solomon's closest followers is found hideously burnt and dying, but still alive, begging his mother to save him as he dies in her arms. The one fighter who attempts to stop David is mercilessly slaughtered with nothing short of cold satisfaction. When engaging Solomon, David shows no regret or remorse, proclaiming his grand ambitions and utter megalomania.
    • Arba, once one of King Solomon's most beloved followers, fell into depravity when Solomon's will supplanted that of Ill Ilah's. Devoting herself to destroying the kingdom of Alma Torran, Arba founded Al-Thamen, also known as "The Organization", and led an attack on the kingdom, culminating in her personally cutting down her surrogate sister, Solomon's pregnant lover Queen Sheba. Vowing to return to destroy the world Solomon creates anew, Arba manifests in Solomon's new world in the Kou Empire, having children for the purpose of possessing them when her current body is worn out. When she possesses her descendant Gyokuen, Arba murders Gyokuen's husband, Emperor Hakutoku, and his elder two sons, mocking her remaining son Hakuryu, the only son Arba herself gave birth to, for his helplessness in learning the truth. Murdering her second husband to seize the throne, Arba attempts to summon Ill Ilah back into the world to drain it dry of magic and leave it a barren, lifeless husk, devoted only to the will of Ill Ilah and to the destruction of all Solomon has made.
  • The Cape miniseries, by Joe Hill: Eric was, at first, just a self-centered and lazy Jerkass who blamed all of his life's problems on his kind mother and brother. However, once he reclaimed his childhood cape that allows him the power of flight, he becomes something far more wicked. Firstly murdering his girlfriend because he suspected her of cheating on him, Eric later drops a grizzly bear onto two detectives investigating him for his girlfriend's death, and happily watches as they are mauled to death. Using his mother as a hostage, Eric tries to burn his brother alive, and, when his mother tries to flee the state, Eric, after murdering a man with a cinder block, uses a chainsaw to down the entire jumbo plane she is on, killing hundreds of innocents when it crashes into a bridge filled with people. Finally confronting his brother, Eric brutally beats and tries to kill him while refusing to take responsibilty for his crimes or his crummy lot in life. Childish, unintelligent, and homicidal, Eric serves as a warning that even the most uninspired and pathetic of people can become truly dangerous when given power without responsibility or fear of retribution.
  • Lights Out (2016): A sociopath since the day she was born, Diana is sent to a mental institution after she played mind games with her father, ultimately causing him to kill himself. While there, she manipulates a depressed Sophie into becoming friends with her, and became physically abusive towards her, going as far as to break her legs in an unprovoked attack. As a ghost, she latches herself onto Sophie, enslaving her in the process. Wanting Sophie to herself, she murders both of her husbands when they attempted to heal their wife's mind, and she stalks and terrorizes Sophie’s children Rebecca and Martin, eventually opting to kill them in utter defiance of Sophie's demands. When two police officers are alerted on a potential break in, they go to investigate; Diana savagely murders both of the officers, and attempts to kill Rebecca in front of Sophie. Self-serving and hostile, Diana sought complete control over Sophie's body, and would murder anyone who came in her way.
  • Chronicle of the Unhewn Throne:
    • The Emperor's Blades: Sami Yurl and Balendin Ainoa, a pair of sadistic cadets with the Annur military, are both involved with a plot to overthrow the royal family. Torturing a prostitute to death, they use her hatred and fear of them to fuel Balendin's magic, allowing him to collapse a pub on the Emperor's son, Valyn, endangering dozens of others in the process. When Valyn survives, the two of the lure his friend Ha Lin out to a secluded place and beat her to a pulp, using her emotions to power another assassination attempt on Valyn, for which they frame cadet Annick. During their graduation trials, they take the opportunity to capture Ha Lin and torture her to death, and following graduation, try to assassinate Valyn and his brother. Upon capturing Valyn's squad, the first thing that Balendin brags about is how he will have them handed over to Sami to be raped; Sami himself meets his end at the hands of Valyn while trying to cut him to pieces.
    • While Yurl is killed, Balendin reappears in the other two books, branching off from the conspiracy to overthrow the ruling dynasty and impressing the Urghal people with his penchant for cruelty and causing pain. With his powers relying on drawing emotions toward himself, Balendin begins taking prisoners and torturing them viciously to draw out their hate and fear, further strengthening him. Becoming the de facto leader of a massive army of Urghal warriors, Balendin leads them to slaughter all in their path, taking hundreds upon hundreds of prisoners while he personally tortures and skins them alive in front of horrified city walls to draw out more and more power for himself, revealing his only loyalties are his complete devotion to his own ego and hunger for power.
  • The Fionavar Tapestry:
    • Rakoth Maugrim, the Unraveler, is a deity from outside of Fionavar who loathes the world he had no part in making. Long ago, Maugrim arrived in Fionavar and began corrupting what he could with the intention of annihilating the world entirely. After freeing himself, Maugrim captures the heroine Jennifer and, vowing to take everything from her, rapes her, while taking the forms of her father and lovers to destroy all happiness she may have. Aware his rape has gotten her pregnant with his son, thus binding him to Fionavar, Maugrim gives Jennifer to a servant of his to rape and torture for a night as long as he kills her at the end of it. When Jennifer is saved, Maugrim later inflicts a brutal winter on Fionavar, killing many by freezing and starvation, while using his forces to ravage the land. When he meets his son Darien, Maugrim is gleeful about a chance to murder him, vowing to not only to kill him but to unmake him utterly as to regain his invulnerability.
    • Metran, First Mage to the High King of Brennin, at first seems to be a harmless, senile old man. Revealed as a servant of the aforementioned Rakoth Maugrim, assisting his master in returning from imprisonment, Metran arranges the massacre of heroine Jennifer's soldiers to deliver her to Maugrim to be raped and murdered. In the second book of the trilogy, Metran obtains the Cauldron of Kath Meigol, powering it by draining the lives of hundreds of minions, resurrecting them and killing them again to create a killing frost over the lands that dooms many people to die via cold and starvation. Another land suffers a killing rain from Metran's powers, poisoning and killing almost everyone within its borders. When finally killed, Metran is attempting to shift the death rain over to the High Kingdom to wipe it off the map, driven only by his greed, hunger for power and hatred towards Fionavar.
  • Out are the Lights, by Richard Laymon: Otto Schreck note , a sadistic film "star," participates in a conspiracy to create a group of real snuff films. In various roles, Schreck hunts down his terrified "co-stars" and dispatches them in a variety of ways: biting into one woman's neck as a vampire, utilizing an axe as an axe-murderer, amputating limbs as a mad scientist and torturing them as an Inquisitor. Unlike the others, Schreck is in it entirely for the carnage and when one of the others asks to watch him at work and is sickened by it, Schreck forces her to watch him torture and kill a helpless victim under threat of death. When the heroine of the novel is captured at the end, Schreck's ideas for the film involve skinning her alive, barely able to contain himself at the thought of further bloodshed.
  • Serafina and the Black Cloak, by Robert Beatty: The Man in the Black Cloak, Montgomery Thorne, is the terrifying apparition stalking the grand Biltmore Estate. Originally a rich man who lost his fortune, the Man gained the ability to devour the souls, along with the talents and knowledge, of anyone he wanted by using a mysterious black cloak. When the Man consumes someone's soul, they are left trapped in his cloak in constant horror and agony, and the Man has no compunctions regarding who he devours, be they adult or child, and will outright murder anyone who gets his way. After he begins rapidly aging due to his use of the cloak, the Man begins devouring the souls of as many children as he can to preserve his life force, and, when Serafina tries to steal his cloak to save his victims, the Man sadistically tries to suffocate her for irritating him. A greedy sociopath who would harm anyone and everyone to become wealthy and powerful once again, the Man in the Black stood out in this children's novel as a truly dark and twisted man.
  • Broken Trail: Ed "Big Ears" Bywaters is a soft-spoken ex-convict notorious as a horse-thief and murderous Bounty Hunter. Ed introduces himself in this Made-for-TV Movie forcing himself onto Nola Johns, a favored prostitute of Ed's whom he has periodically used and abused to brutal extents over a course of years, and proves his violent streak when he coldly murders a former accomplice of his he suspected of ratting him out. When local brothel-keeper Kate Becker employs Ed to look into a Chinese virgin trade gone awry, Ed takes his time stalking Prent Ritter and his company after they acquire the Chinese girls. At the end of the film, Ed guns down Heck, takes Prent's companions at gunpoint, and prepares to castrate and torture Prent to death in full witness of the captives, gloating that "he'll know what to do" with Nola and the young Chinese girls once he's through with Prent.
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky: George Weissmann, the Big Bad of both FC and SC, starts off as a seemingly kind and helpful archaeologist named Professor Alba. This falls away at the end of FC, when he reveals himself as an evil wizard who was manipulating Joshua and the other protagonists even before the game started. A high-ranking member of the secret organization of Ouroboros, Weissmann has the desire to remake the world damaged by the cruelty of humans in his own image. He was behind the massacre of the village of Hamel, which claims the life of Joshua's sister and Loewe's lover Karin. This in turn sparked the Hundred Days War, which affected the life of the main protagonist Estelle and created the events of the game. Weissmann then had Joshua brainwashed to become a ruthless, cold-blooded assassin, who slaughtered countless politicians and other influential people who were in Weissmann's way. After failing to assassinate Estelle's father Cassius, Weissmann attempted to have Joshua himself assassinated for his failure. At the end of FC, Weissmann restores Joshua's lost memories and gleefully observes as he goes through an emotional trauma. Towards the end of SC, Weissmann pursues the ancient city of Liberl Ark in the hopes of obtaining the ancient artifact Aureole and merge himself with it. Manipulating Joshua's mind once again, Weissmann attempts to have him execute Estelle so that he can free him from his mind spell and enjoy seeing him break emotionally. Despite considering himself as the savior of all mankind, Weissmann is completely blinded by his own sadism and hypocrisy, even to the point where he doesn't even realize that most of the events caused by the humanity are the cause of his own actions.
  • Spyro the Dragon franchise:
  • Prince Vladimir: Krivzha is a High Priest of Perun who uses his pagan religion to obtain absolute power. In the beginning, he murders his teacher to gain authority. Many years later, he collaborates with the Pechenegs and has them slaughter and burn villages. He also suggests that the village's sole survivor, a young boy, be sacrificed to his god. The boy later escapes and when Krivzha finds him with the Greeks, the boy escapes again while Krivzha has all the others killed and their ship burned. To obtain control over Russia, Krivzha frames Vladimir's older brother, Yaropolk, for the murder of the middle brother, Oleg, and give Vladimir a forged letter, causing Vladimir to invade his brother's land which ultimately results in the latter's death. After being exposed with his lies, Krivzha returns with the Pechenegs and attempts to kill a sympathetic pagan priest.

Anderson: Psi-Division
Besides tangling with the below-mentioned Judge Death, Anderson had some nasty villains of her own in this spinoff.
  • Judge Elan Fauster is the head of the occultist department within Psi-Ops. When Judge Anderson is infected with Half-Life, a psychic virus from Deadworld, Fauster volunteers one of his men to act as his mole during the rescue mission inside Anderson's mind. The mission succeeds with high casualties, with Fauster ensuring that another Judge will be killed after being falsely identified as a carrier for the virus. He links the virus to his own nanomachines so they can repair his body and grant him immortality, causing the virus to spread out to the Psi-Judges before an outbreak in the general population occurs. The victims of Half Life become both homicidal and suicidal, slaughtering themselves and other people en masse through immensely brutal ways. Almost all of Mega-City One is affected before the Judges can deactivate the bots, ultimately causing at least a million deaths citywide. Fauster merely considers all the carnage he caused an acceptable sacrifice for his own immortality, boasting that he can afford to outlast any punishment that's in store for him.

Psi-Testers

  • In this short story, Cyclops O'Keefe is a violent gangster who makes a trip to the Luna City colony to execute armed robberies with the rest of his gang, not above killing people who get in the way or using random bystanders as human shields. When he's arrested, he asks for a "psi-test", whereby a psychic person will read someone's mind and make a binding verdict declaring them innocent or guilty. Cyclops reveals that he has rigged a laser bomb to destroy the city dome, blackmailing the shocked psychic Oscar Meek to declare him innocent. Not satisfied with being a mere Karma Houdini, Cyclops elects to torment Oscar further by refusing to disarm the bomb and escaping back to Earth to celebrate his victory while knowingly condemning a million people to death.

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#65449: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:16:32 PM

Unsure about Damien.
As for Secret Six, even throwing aside Junior's Freudian Excuse, Smyth's entry is on the short side, while for Dwarfstar, Cheshire probably shouldn't even be mentioned (especially because the entry says she's worse, which makes it seem like either Dwarfstar is out-heinoused, and/or Cheshire should count).

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#65450: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:16:37 PM

[tup] judge, ronan, Emporer of the night, Damien, and thanos, now we just wait 2 years for the marvel version tongue

edited 7th Aug '16 1:19:42 PM by Mediawatcher


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