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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

username2527 Since: Nov, 2013
#64376: Jul 21st 2016 at 8:16:40 PM

[tdown] Black Fog due to generic villainy.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#64377: Jul 21st 2016 at 9:55:06 PM

[tdown] Black Fog, even though I like unusual C Ms.

sanfranman91 from Boston, MA Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#64378: Jul 21st 2016 at 10:10:30 PM

Yeah, I'm not feeling Black Fog either even though he sounds like an asshole. [tdown]

I'm gonna pack up for a business trip in a bit, so now's the right time for me to get the second Roots villain out of the way. As a heads up, the villain in question might be a bit more complicated than Frederick so I appreciate any input you have for the following baddie. Without further ado...

Who is Tom Lea, anyway?

Tom Lea is the Big Bad in Episode 2 and Episode 3. A Nouveau Riche Irish American living in North Carolina, Tom made a fortune in cockfighting (which even back then was considered as a morally ambiguous way to earn money). Despite running into gambling debt, he nonetheless establishes himself as a man who will do anything to become wealthy and respected by fellow Southern plantation owners.

What does he do?

Tom probably owns the world record time for crossing the Moral Event Horizon, and he only gets worse as the story progresses, so buckle up.

After the Wallers sell Kizzy to Tom in Episode 2, Kizzy is sent to his farm. There, Tom makes his first appearance by brutalizing her. As Kizzy tries to escape, Tom horrifically rapes her as he screams "THIS IS MY RIGHT!!!" within hearing distance of his wife. This terrifying scene leads to Kizzy giving birth to Chicken George, the main protagonist of Episodes 3 and 4.

After a timeskip, it becomes clear that Tom uses Kizzy as his Sex Slave to repeatedly rape given his wife is infertile. Tom emotionally abuses his wife and Kizzy has to teach his wife how to read in secret, implying Tom wants her to remain illiterate. After Chicken George is caught browsing through cockerel cages, Tom forces Kizzy to let her son George join his cockfighting under the threat of sending him to hostile Cherokee tribes. Having his biological son with him, Tom begins to manipulate Chicken George into liking the practice of cockfighting, leading to him being scratched and bruised from hostile cockerels. He also lies to him about his father disappearing after a one night stand and, when it becomes clear that George has fallen for Matilda, he manipulates his son to marry him for the sole purpose of breeding and with the condition that one of their children must be named after his master, a condition George's mother is deeply ashamed of (identity is a BIG element in this series).

During an Easter party with other rich Southern folk, Tom is brought to a table with his rivals Master Byrd and Master Jewett. In addition to seeing through Tom's Faux Affably Evil personality, Master Byrd harbors anti-Irish bias. When Byrd claims that Tom's soul is dirt and that he prefers blacks over him, Tom threatens to kill him and later gets into a prolonged (and violent) pistol/sword duel. Despite Byrd yielding after being gravely wounded, Tom prepared to kill him anyway before George intervened (standing down only because it's proper duel etiquette rather than mercy or remorse). When Tom recovers, he's deeper in debt due to reckless spending on gambling and alcohol. He seemingly considers a deal from Marcellus (a freeman) to buy Kizzy her freedom, only to turn a 180 by brutalizing, abusing and raping Kizzy, all the while callously reminding her that any kids George has will be his grandkids too. This scene Kizzy forces to refuse freedom and say goodbye to Marcellus.

Tom's paranoia and abuse grows even stronger come Nat Turner's Rebellion. Revved up by Southern rumors of the wanton destruction brought by Nat Turner, he refuses to save a mortally wounded Mingo, Tom's long-time cockfighting slave (and George's mentor), and pulls a gun on his own biological son. A few years after the rebellion, Master Lea and George are still in business, if more at odds than ever. They travel to a cockfight in North Carolina, where Lea's old dueling rival Jewett and his English relatives coax him to wager $10,000 on a fight. This battle will either cost Lea his farm or finally move him into the upper class. George demands that Lea guarantee his freedom if they win. Their bird wins, but Lea's compulsive gambling leads him to make a $20,000 wager instead. When their bird gets killed, Lea blames the loss on George and reneges on his promise to set Chicken George free. Instead, Tom sells his own biological son to Jewett's cousins in England to pay off his debt.

Just before George is taken away, Tom mentions that he would make George's wife and children free after George returns from England. This is another lie, as its revealed that he sold them to Murray's plantation when George returns (and three of George's children were sold again and are never seen again). For all of Tom's efforts to game the system, he ends up divorced, penniless, and addicted to alcohol… a fate well deserved in my book.

Any Freudian Excuse, redeeming qualities or other mitigating factors?

Tom's Freudian Excuse is that his Irish background puts him at a significant disadvantage in gaining the respect of other wealthy Southerners such as Master Byrd and Master Jewett. As the Internalized Categorism entry in its page describes:

"A point the remake stresses is just how stratified society was in antebellum America: the rich white plantation owners are - generally - fairly civil to their slaves, treating them like horses at worst or sometimes even like pets. Slaves are a major investment of money, so the actual plantation owners don't physically harm them at mere whim. The ones who seem to vehemently hate African slaves are the poor whites, who serve as overseers and slave-catchers, and outright sadistically enjoy mistreating and torturing slaves. Many of these low-ranking overseers are poor Irish immigrants considered barely a step above slaves themselves, and thus have a pathological need to demonstrate that they are superior to the black slaves."

However, as we see in Episode 4, George's English owners and Frederick Murray's father prove that owners can have commanding positions in society and be fairly decent toward their slaves. Moreover, it is established in Episode 3 that Tom has a serious problem of keeping his money due to his addiction with gambling and alcohol, which heavily implies (if not outright states) that Tom is likely not able to own up to his own short-comings.

More damning is his obsessed with power and obedience. When Chicken George comes back to the farm, one of Tom’s last lines is "Who will obey me?" With that simple line, it illustrates that nothing mattered more to Tom than dominance over others. He knew precisely what he wanted to do to others, even if it means emotionally abusing his wife, raping a slave, or tearing his biological son's family on a whim. His Irish background excuse might not be valid enough to justify his actions. The fact that he has no redeeming qualities to speak of doesn't help his case either.

How does he hold up to the standards of the setting?

As I mentioned in Frederick's effortpost, the 2016 remake of Roots is even darker than the original miniseries. It holds no punches to the brutality of slavery nor does it create Out, Damned Spot! moments to sugarcoat and tone down the bigotry and hypocrisy that fueled pre-Civil War American society.

In comparison to the Wallers (who at least loved their own family members) or Mr. and Mrs. Murray (who, Frederick not withstanding, actually treat their slaves decently), Tom is a man who will lie, manipulate, abuse, rape, and kill his way to success. Driven by nothing more than greed, Tom is a psychopath willing to destroy lives to improve his own standing. His wife was disgusted with him raping Kizzy, and it becomes clear that even other Southerners do not respect Tom even if he didn't have an Irish background.

edited 21st Jul '16 10:24:50 PM by sanfranman91

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#64380: Jul 21st 2016 at 10:50:22 PM

[tup] Tom

Also is call of duty gonna get its own monster page soon? I mean they have enough for it to have its own page.

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#64383: Jul 21st 2016 at 11:31:12 PM

Tom sounds pretty bad, but how does he compare with Frederick?

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#64384: Jul 22nd 2016 at 12:13:21 AM

@Mediawatcher: Strange. I remember there being a Call of Duty subpage before. The series currently has five CMs in it so it definitely has enough for a subpage.

[tup] Tom Lea.

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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#64385: Jul 22nd 2016 at 12:33:33 AM

[up] Call of Duty has enough, sure, but they're from 2 entirely different series. I have a list of ones that will probably get their own subpage before long (Daredevil, Teen Wolf, DC Universe Animated Original Movies).

edited 22nd Jul '16 1:15:55 AM by ACW

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#64386: Jul 22nd 2016 at 12:39:56 AM

[up]Modern warfare has three monster, and black ops has 2 monsters, huh, different series sure, but they are still technically the same game series

edited 22nd Jul '16 2:40:42 AM by Mediawatcher

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#64387: Jul 22nd 2016 at 5:42:55 AM

Leaning [tup] to Tom, though the Internalized Categorism bit gives me slight pause (as, to a lesser extend, the bit about "proper duel etiquette." Would a CM really care about that?).

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#64388: Jul 22nd 2016 at 6:29:22 AM

I thought we decided that five CM entries wasn't enough to make a page anymore.

Why so serious?
Mediawatcher Since: Dec, 2015
#64389: Jul 22nd 2016 at 6:40:52 AM

I'm going to shut up now

edited 22nd Jul '16 7:10:34 AM by Mediawatcher

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#64390: Jul 22nd 2016 at 6:42:05 AM

[up][up] Now, see, THAT I disagree with; if for no other reason than I don't feel like going through all 80+ subpages and merging the ones with 5 to the main pages (for starters, I know there's Dragon Age, Mega Man, Shin Megami Tensei, Dance In The Vampire Bund, Pretty Cure, Rurouni Kenshin, When They Cry; that's just from VG and AniManga).
[nja] Actually, I just checked; the only other with 5 is Jack Reacher. Plus we got Super Robot Wars and Dresden hanging around for now. Plus several were created when there were 5. So, yeah, I'm fine with not mandating mandating new pages at 5, but I'm opposed to making the minimum more than 5.
[up] If you're referring to Frieza, the Super continuity is different than regular DBZ (I think?).

edited 22nd Jul '16 6:54:26 AM by ACW

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#64391: Jul 22nd 2016 at 7:09:32 AM

[up] Kindly and please stop trying to speak with authority on things you don't know about.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#64392: Jul 22nd 2016 at 7:25:52 AM

Was I speaking with authority? No. Hence the (I think?) at the end.

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#64393: Jul 22nd 2016 at 7:29:38 AM

And? It's still misinformation and this is, again, a recurring problem that's been mentioned time and again. No, Super is not a different continuity or anything of the sort.

That seems more like a passive-aggressive response when you keep doing the same exact things people bring up (constantly trying to state answers to things from media you don't know). Typing 'Dragonball Super' into Google would fix that.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#64394: Jul 22nd 2016 at 7:50:26 AM

Passive-aggressive...I dunno, maybe subconsciously? It's not deliberate (at least, I don't think it is).
"Retelling" would probably be the better thing than different continuity.

edited 22nd Jul '16 7:53:52 AM by ACW

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#64395: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:06:33 AM

  • MÄR: The manga version of Halloween is one of the most sadistic and brutal members of the Chess Pieces. Originally a homeless and bullied boy by the name of Pamp, he had a firm belief that the weak become sacrifices for the strong, and promised to become strong so he could kill everybody in the village. He started off by killing neighborhood pets before going on to stab five kids to death and fleeing the village. During the first War Games, because he and Alan tied, he cursed Alan and Edward to be forcibly merged together out of spite. Six years later when Phantom resurrects, Halloween and Chimera launch an attack on the country of Acalupa, destroying it and wiping out the majority of its population, recounting to Ian how fun it was. To punish Ian for not taking part in the attack on Märhaven, Halloween has Chimera transorm Ian's best friend, Gido, into a grotesque mixture of human and monster, knowing it would cause more pain to Ian if his best friend was punished instead. During his fight against Alan in the second War Games, Halloween distracts Alan by setting several innocent spectators on fire while telling Alan how sickened he is by Alan's sense of protecting those in need.
  • Martian Successor Nadesico: Admiral Haruki Kusakabe establishes himself as heinous person near the end of the TV series, by framing Tsukumo Shiratori for treason and having his former best friend Genichiro "mercy kill" him, all in order to prolong the war between Earth and Jupiter, while having a chance to seize Mars's forgotten technology. He is finally discovered and forced into exile, but plots revenge. It is revealed that in the three years between the series and The Movie, he had Akito and Yurika captured and experimented on, to replicate the Boson Jumping effect. The experiments permanently hooked Yurika up to a machine, in a catatonic state, and completely destroyed Akito's senses, leaving him an empty, tragic shell of the innocent boy he was.
  • 7 Women: In the final film directed by John Ford, Tunga Khan is a Mongolian Raider attacking villages in rural China, along with the British missions in the area. Once his forces sack a mission, Tunga Khan has everyone in the area slaughtered, with women raped en masse. When he comes to the local village near which one mission is located near, Tunga Khan has all the villagers rounded up and executed via firing squad. When the local priest is executed for trying to save a woman, Tunga Khan refuses to let the local doctor treat the priest's newborn baby unless the doctor sleeps with him. Forced to agree, he agrees to trade the freedom of her friends in return for her becoming his concubine. Tunga Khan later murders one of his own men who proves himself a talented fighter, simply to brook no competition, revealing himself as little more than a murderous, raping brute.
  • Final Girl: Jameson is the leader of a group of teenage psychopaths whose favorite pastime is taking girls into the woods and hunting them for sport. Jameson himself has a body count surpassing twenty, with a focus on attractive young blond women. We first see him gun down a waitress named Gwen before he is later approached by the heroine Veronica. After taking her into the woods, Jameson informs her of the game and says the only reason he won't rape her is that women don't run as well after such an assault. When Veronica drugs and kills his three friends, Jameson is simply amused and offers to team up with Veronica on a cross-country killing spree.
  • Freeway: Bob Wolverton is an obvious stand-in for The Big Bad Wolf in Little Red Riding Hood. A sadistic murderer and pedophile known as the "I-5 Killer", Bob abducts troubled young girls off the freeway and, after gaining their trust, proceeds to rape and murder them. Kidnapping his latest target, Vanessa, Bob taunts her about her sexual abuse she received from her stepfather, before being shot by her, leading to his disfigurement. Seeking revenge, Bob drives to Vanessa's grandmother's trailer, where he proceeds to kill her. When Vanessa arrives, Bob immediately tries to gun her down, shooting a bystander in the process when he walks in on the scene. When asked why he kills, Bob justifies himself by claiming that his victims are garbage, showing a total Lack of Empathy or remorse for his actions.
  • Alex Verus:
    • Vitus Aubuchon, an old mage and the heir of the Aubuchon family, has survived centuries by using dark magic to harvest the blood of victims to preserve his own life. Vitus has preyed primarily on children, abducting them into his ancestral home and cutting their throats to get to their blood before storing their bones like trophies. In the present, Vitus has realized the magic is no longer working for him as it once did, and instead switches to abducting magic apprentices for their blood with one such disappearance prompting the attention of Alex and his friends. When they make their way into Vitus's home, Vitus promptly attempts to slaughter everyone inside.
    • Vihaela is the true leader of the White Rose organization, a series of mage-run brothels. Vihaela has women and children abducted to serve as prostitutes with many of them having their minds forcibly altered to make them more docile. Others who resemble celebrities are physically altered and then mentally forced to service any fantasy of the client. Vihaela also runs the brothels on a "points" system, with whoever fails a task or displeases a client obtaining a point. At the end of the month, the one with the most points is sent to Vihaela's laboratory and never returns. Upon being discovered, Vihaela promptly betrays her associates and sacrifices an innocent woman made to look like her in order to escape.
  • The Darkglass Mountain Trilogy: Eleanon, leader of the Lealfast, is a Jerkass with Chronic Backstabbing Disorder that takes his whole species along with him. He treats women, especially his sister, like garbage, and forces his sister to act as sexual bait. As the speaker for the Lealfast, instead of working for what is best for them, he deliberately alienates any allies that extend a welcoming hand to the Lealfast so he can retain control over them. In order to meet an Eldritch Abomination and secure a deal with him, he lets thousands of his own people get massacred in battle, then blames it on Axis. He then makes a deal with said Eldritch Abomination which enslaves the Lealfast to it forever. When he finds a woman, Ravenna, under a curse to not be noticed, he claims he can lift the curse, then instead modifies it so she becomes invisible to everyone but himself, forcing her to become his spy.
  • The aforementioned Qeteb, the Midday Demon, is the boss of the Timekeeper Demons. In the past he and the other demons ended life on thousands of worlds, including the Earth. When he is reformed in Tencendor after sustaining mortal wounds that destroyed his body, he immediately drives every creature and being not under magical protection insane. He is a Bad Boss, frequently beating his own demons and grabbing Sheol by the hair and throwing her into a wall minutes after his resurrection. He repeatedly rapes a soulless woman and later has one of his demons possess her, and taunts Faraday about raping and dismembering her. His ultimate goal is the cessation of the Star Dance, which would end all life in the universe.
  • Marco Polo: Jia Sidao, season 1's Big Bad, is the Evil Chancellor of the Song Dynasty. He is first introduced brutally beating the army's general in front of his soldiers before killing him upon hearing rumors that he was insulting his style of kung fu. He also shows utter distain for the Mongols, and when he hears Empress Dowager Xie Daoquing was trying to negotiate a peace treaty with the Mongols, he has her and those who agreed to it murdered, along with her already dying husband, so that their son could become emperor, someone easier for him to control, thus leading to him becoming the true ruler of the empire. With his influence, Sidao has every Mongolian village near the Song Dynasty capital, Xianggang, destroyed, with their people all killed. He also holds his sister's daughter hostage so that he can blackmail her to go assassinate the Mongolian emperor and empress. When he finds out she failed to kill them, he tortures her daughter by binding her feet and threatens to kill her if she fails again. When the Mongols attempt to invade Xianggang he uses gunpowder to attack them, with the entire army massacred, causing the Khan to retreat. When the Mongol army succeeds in breaching the walls in their second attempt, Sidao finds Marco Polo, the man who orchestrated this siege, and he makes him suffer, before trying to kill him.
  • Roots (2016): The Big Bad of Part 4 is Frederick Murray, a proud Confederate major who is defined by his Lack of Empathy for his family, slaves, and subordinates. When Chicken George visits his family at the Murray family's plantation, Frederick plots to have George re-enslaved by refusing to notify him of North Carolina's 30 day limit for freedmen. A vehement racist even by Southern standards, especially compared to his father, Frederick accuses Chicken George's son Tom of lying when a failed cannon test kills some of his men, and later lets his men gangrape Tom's wife. While Frederick supposedly loves Nancy Holt, he sends men to die in Nancy's and Jerusalem's trap despite knowing Nancy was an abolitionist spy for the Union. After Jerusalem is captured, Frederick orders his men to slowly lynch him even after Nancy reveals the truth about her and her friend's backgrounds. To his father's despair, Frederick then brutalizes and lynches Nancy after she puts Jerusalem out of his misery. A deluded sadist even after the war, Frederick declares that blacks will never be equals before he tries to kill Tom in front of his own family.
  • X Men:
    • Apocalypse is a would-be mutant conqueror who despises everything that isn't him and fancies himself a God. In his first appearance he creates a device designed to take away people's free will and make them his slaves. He tricks four self-loathing mutants, including Warren "Angel" Worthington, into believing this will cure them of being mutants, preying on their feelings of inadequacy to subject to torture them them into his Four Horsemen o f the Apocalypse. Apocalypse then orders his Horsemen to go on a worldwide genocidal rampage. In his next appearance, Apocalypse creates a plague designed to wipe out most humans and mutants. This plague furthers tensions between humans and mutants, with some humans blaming mutants for it, and creates a Bad Future, where mutants and humans alike are dying from this plague. Later Apocalypse manages to get hold of some time travel technology and uses it to travel to the Axis of Time, a interdenominational area that controls time itself and plans on destroying the time stream and reality itself, so that he can recreate it in his own image.
    • Graydon Creed is the leader of the anti-Mutant group, the Friends of Humanity. Under Creed's orders, the Friends of Humanity attack halfway houses and other businesses and non-profit organizations that are sympathetic to mutants, even committing lynchings. Creed even organizes an attack on a hospital for the blind, because the gentle, intelligent mutant Hank "Beast" McCoy works there to treat blind patients. Creed later admits he plans to commit genocide against mutants amongst his most loyal followers, and takes part in Apocalypse's aforementioned plague plot to wipe them out. It is revealed Creed is actually the son of Mystique and Sabretooth, two prominent mutants. When this is revealed, he angrily snaps, shooting a holographic image of Sabretooth, screaming "I'm not like you! You are not my father! I'm normal!". In order to get back into the Friends of Humanity's good graces, Creed devises a plan to murder his mother and his mutant siblings, Rogue and Nightcrawler, viciously rejecting he has any connection to them while trying to murder them.
    • Sabretooth, renamed Graydon Creed, Sr., is a cruel Psycho for Hire, Blood Knight, and Wolverine's arch enemy. Magneto uses Sabretooth to infiltrate Xavier's school where Sabretooth is injured after a confrontation with the police while he is pretending to be protesting at Beast's trial. The X-Men rescue Sabretooth and nurse him back to health and Xavier even attempts to help Sabretooth deal with his inner demons. Sabretooth repays this kindness with spite and cruelty as soon as he is able, tricking Jubilee into loosening his restraints and then attempting to murder her. After being driven away by the X-Men, Sabretooth later returns when Wolverine is in Northern Canada, and befriends the population of a small Inuit Village. Sabretooth kidnaps the members of village while Wolverine and straps bombs to them in order to draw Wolverine out and force him to fight. It is later shown in flashbacks that Wolverine and Sabretooth were partners in special forces, where Sabretooth abandoned their entire unit to die, deciding they where expendable when overwhelmed against the monstrous cyborg Omega Red; he scoffs "So what?" when Wolverine confronts him over this. After his aforementioned son uses up his final chance with the Friends of Humanity, they parachute him out of a plane to Sabretooth's cabin. The last we ever seen of Graydon Creed is him screaming in terror, lifted up by his father with Sabretooth looking murderously thrilled at getting his claws on his son at last.
  • Iron Man:
    • Obadiah Stane, AKA Iron Monger I, after seeing his father shoot himself during a game of Russian Roulette, reached two conclusions: that life was a game you had to win at, no matter the cost, and that his father was a weakling who left too much to chance. During a childhood chess match, when paired against a boy who was his equal or better, Stane slit the boy's pet dog's throat to make sure his mind wasn't on the game. Becoming a Corrupt Corporate Executive, Stane defeated Tony Stark in a corporate buyout, and engineered his psychological breakdown, reducing Tony to living on the streets as a homeless, alcoholic vagrant. When Tony returned as Iron Man, Stane wasted no time in kidnapping his friends and loved ones, going so far as to try and brainwash one of Tony's former girlfriends into becoming his lover, not out of interest, but to drive in the fact that he had won; he then set off a bomb at the Circuit Dome to kill Tony with no compunction about collateral damage. When Tony arrived to confront him, Stane revealed he'd set up a chamber with Tony's loved ones subject to receiving electric shocks should he take a step to free them, intending to force Tony to starve to death in the room. When Tony beat Stane's game, Stane played his last trump card: Tony would surrender or Stane would use his own suit to crush a baby's skull. Once beaten, Stane opted to hurt Tony and deny him victory the only way he could: suicide.
    • Wong Chu started off as Iron Man's first major villain but later became something worse. In the original version of Iron Man's origin, Wong Chu was an Asian warlord who ran a POW Camp. After Tony Stark was injured while visiting a war zone, Wong Chu captured him and brought him to his camp, so that Stark could make weapons for him. Stark instead made the Iron Man armor, not before Wong Chu's men killed Yinsen, the kindly scientist who helped Stark create the armor. Wong Chu was about to order his men to kill all the prisoners in the camp, but he was seemingly killed during a battle with Iron Man. Wong Chu managed to survive and reappeared in in 2000's "The Sons of Yinsen" storyline. Deciding to become a drug lord, he opened a more brutal camp in a remote Asian jungle and kidnapped villagers to work as slaves and produce narcotics for him. The Sons of Yinsen, a group that revered the original Yinsen, informed Stark of Wong Chu's camp. Iron Man and his allies attack the camp, discovering that Wong Chu also uses children as slaves. When Iron Man and his allies confront Wong Chu, Wong Chu is sitting on a throne made of human skulls. Wong Chu threatens to murder two dozen slaves if Iron Man and his allies don't surrender. When they do surrender, Wong Chu executes them anyway, then tortures Stark and his allies, before planning to execute them, taking them to a pit filled with thousands of corpses of murdered slaves.
  • Ramsay Snow, the bastard son of Lord Roose Bolton and the most vicious member of House Bolton, is a sadist with a knack for torture and flaying others alive, He captured Winterfell and proceeded to play twisted games with the captive Theon Greyjoy, pretending to be an Ironborn agent who comes to save Theon—killing his own men to keep up the ruse—and culminating in Ramsay bringing Theon to the Dreadfort and subjecting him to prolonged, hideous torture, including flaying bits of him and castrating him. All that remains of Theon afterwards is a broken, obedient shell whom Ramsay dubs "Reek." In his spare time, Ramsay and his equally psychotic lover Myranda release girls into the woods to hunt them for sport, also using the girls to feed Ramsay's savage hounds. When Ramsay makes Theon negotiate a surrender with other Ironborn, Ramsay guarantees their safety, only to have them flayed alive and displayed as gruesome trophies. After marrying Sansa Stark, Ramsay rapes her on the wedding night and continues to sexually and physically abuse her throughout the rest of the marriage. Ramsay cements his rule over his hold by murdering Roose and having his hounds eat his infant brother and stepmother. When he finally engages the Northern armies, Ramsay is apathetic to the death of his own men and shoots the preteen Rickon Stark dead—moments before he reaches Jon Snow. With few matching his pointless savagery, Ramsay Snow exemplified every negative stereotypes about bastards in Westeros.
  • Reperfection: In this point and click thriller by Tinnitus Games, the Branding Killer is a demented psychopath obsessed with sharing his "art" with the world. To this end, the Branding Killer kidnaps and murders young women, spends days slowly branding lavish designs onto their skin, then kills them. Having claimed his 4th victim by the start of the game, the Branding Killer attacks and plans to torture and kill Ben for rescuing his latest victim, and, when Ben escapes his clutches only to be arrested, the Branding Killer decides to go after the man's wife and preteen son as revenge for thwarting his latest killing. The Branding Killer was the only genuinely wicked character in the story, and stood out as a truly depraved monster.
  • Thief franchise:
G.I. Joe (IDW):
  • The Second Cobra Commander, real name Krake, is the egomanical psychopath who took over the terrorist organization Cobra after the previous leader's death. Growing up in a war-torn country, Krake became a dangerous soldier by his teen years, and ruthlessly killed anyone who threatened his livelihood, from innocent slaves who worked too slowly, to his own partners when he suspected one of them might be a mole. Joining up with Cobra, Krake became one of its top enforcers, murdering dozens of innocents and trying to slaughter an entire village of people throughout his missions. Eventually taking over the organization as the new Commander, Krake's first order is to lead to an onslaught on the entire country of Nanzhao, massacring hundreds of innocents, nuking its major cities, and turning it into a radioactive wasteland. Showing no loyalty or care for anyone but himself, Krake regularly attempts mass murder and bombings, from shooting up airports and bombing entire cities, to trying to drop an entire plane onto the city of Paris to kill one person. With slave camps worldwide, Krake has adults and children alike forced to work under threat of death, and, in some cases, sends the children to training camps where they are brainwashed into becoming sociopathic fanatics of Cobra's cause. A homicidal megalomaniac who killed any and all threats or annoyances to himself on a whim, Krake is one of the most wicked Cobra Commanders throughout the G.I. Joe franchise.
  • Chimera is a former Green Beret who got rich from manipulating stocks, but when his crimes were discovered and his money taken from him, he murdered his entire family before going on the run. Undergoing facial reconstruction surgery, Chimera bombs the clinic where he had his operation to kill anyone who saw his face, and later murders numerous police officers who try to arrest him. Taking over a gang of thugs after executing their current leader, Chimera kidnaps a governor's daughter, claiming his plans to use her for ransom to his gang, before sadistically murdering her in front of her father to show his true goal isn't money, but destruction. Chimera reveals he has set two timers, one of which will release a toxin that will kill millions of people worldwide, the other which will leak stock market strategies and money laundering secrets to corrupt individuals, and will lead to economic failure within a few years. Though killed while trying to murder numerous Joes, Chimera's money laundering secrets are still leaked online. Demented and sadistic, Chimera may have been one of the earlier major villains the Joes faced, but he was easily one of the worst.
  • Skull Buster is the recruit trainer for Cobra, and a sadistic brute to boot. To train potential recruits, Skull Buster takes them on long treks through isolated locations such as deserts or jungles, forcing them to start out naked and starved. When any of the recruits show weakness, such as decreasing mental health or revulsion at eating raw meat, Skull Buster wastes no time in ruthlessly killing them. Along their travels, Skull Buster has his troops murder any and all people they come across, be they Taliban soldiers or innocent villagers-inclusing children—in order to steal their supplies. Doing this routine weekly on separate groups each time, Skull Buster enjoys his job way too much, and takes sadistic pleasure in any of his trainees' deaths, be they by his hand, their own weakness, or suicide. Though having limited appearances, Skull Buster made his mark as the most wicked low-level villain in the story.
  • Future Noir: In this non-canon, alternate universe, Dr. Mindbender is portrayed as far worse than his mainstream counterpart. A sociopathic Mad Scientist, Mindbender performs horrifying experiments on numerous innocents, including children, who are drawn into the cult of Cobra. These experiments leave them as hideous monsters in constant agony that he uses to kill anyone who defies Cobra. With raving fanaticism for his leader, Serpentor, Mindbender plans to spread a toxin countrywide that will turn all it infects into monstrous and mangled beasts in order to leave only the "pureness" of the Cobra cult to exist in the world. Commiting his crimes For Science! and misanthropy, Mindbender stood out as a wicked monster who more than made up for the relatively low quantity his crimes with the sheer monstrosity of said crimes.

edited 29th Jul '16 3:19:26 AM by ACW

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Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
#64396: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:08:24 AM

[up]ACW, I added several updates to my Bob Wolverton's write-up.

Why so serious?
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#64397: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:12:38 AM

[up]Alright, I saw those. See how it looks now.

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#64398: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:19:30 AM

[tup]Tom and leaning [tup]on Black Fog, as little as it matters at this point.

Oissu!
username2527 Since: Nov, 2013
#64399: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:27:38 AM

How is Black Fog a [tup]? His worst actions listed are attacking or nearly killing the heroes Pokémon. That is generic villainy at it's finest.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#64400: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:31:09 AM

Trying to steal someone's soul and putting them into a coma don't sound like generic Pokemon villainy, that's all.

Oissu!

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