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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
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Bonaparte I think (incidentally, is there a reason Samedi's boss Eric doesn't count?).
Took a look at the live-action tv section to mine for bad quotes.
This is more philosophical posturing than anything.
Bit Wall of Text-y but I could go either way.
Man: God is in my heart, so I know there is always hope.
March: (moves the man to the chute he drops bodies down) Do you think there's hope now? Do you think God is going to protect you from the head of this hammer? Or the six floors you're about to fall?
Man: As long as there is a God, men like you can kill thousands. Millions. But you won't ever find peace.
March: (laughs) Well, then, I guess I'm just going to have to kill God. That is my message to the world. (smacks the man in the back of the head with his hammer, killing him)
More philosophical posturing and killing only one man. Pro-tip: The more stage directions that are required for context, the worse a quote is in terms of illustrative value.
Davros: Electrical energy, Miss Tyler. Every atom in existence is bound by an electrical field; the Reality Bomb cancels it out. Structure falls apart. That test was focused on the prisoners alone; full transmission will dissolve every form of matter.
Rose: The stars are going out...!
The Doctor: [horrified] The 27 planets, they've become one vast transmitter, blasting that wavelength-
Davros: Across the entire universe! Never stopping, never faultering, never fading. People and planets and stars will become dust! And the dust will become atoms, and the atoms will become...nothing. And the wavelength will continue, breaking through the rift at the heart of the Medusa Cascade into every dimension, every parallel, every single corner of creation! This is my ultimate victory, Doctor! THE DESTRUCTION OF REALITY ITSELF!!
He's describing The End of the World as We Know It. Without context we have no idea what his motivations are.
Nothing but a posthumous “The Reason You Suck” Speech. Doesn't say anything about how evil he was.
Dr. Daniel Jackson: Then killing all the System Lords would just open the way for him to take over completely. You always said that a bunch of warring System Lords was better than one all powerful one, so...
Selmak: You do not understand how bad Anubis is. He was banished by the System Lords because his crimes were unspeakable, even to the Goa'uld.
That's just Even Evil Has Standards, this doesn't mention anything about what these unspeakable crimes are (hilariously, neither does the show, but that's beside the point).
That just makes it sound like he did all that by accident. Not good.
Without context this sounds like he's just saying Then Let Me Be Evil after a period of family abuse.
EDIT: In fact, the quote on Monster.The Vampire Diaries is bad too.
The Sociopath is not the same thing as Complete Monster. They just overlap a lot. If it were, we'd have kept Andrew Cross on the list. What has he done that makes him so evil?
edited 4th Jun '16 12:55:04 PM by Morgenthaler
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"I know Date A Live pretty well, and Minerva is someone who isn't in the anime or in a manga that's made I stateside. The scanlation chapter presented is from Date AST Live, and features a Spirit named Ashley, who doesn't count. The other manga she's in, Date A Strike, has NO scanlations. She doesnt even seem to be in the original light novels! Unless someone knows Japanese and can give us first hand sourcing, I say cut Minerva for lack of information.
Looking at other Media
1. "After all these years, the Vordenberg Academy will be born. With a statue of me at the gates: "Baron Vordenberg, Conquer of Silas, Founder of the Academy, and Slayer of Vampires". It'll be tasteful, all basalt and weathered brass, and in it, I'll be holding your severed head. I bet you wish you married my great grandfather now." —Baron Vordenberg, Carmilla The Series.
Cut. It's just evil gloating.
2. "O Spartan dog, more fell than anguish, hunger, or the sea. Look at the tragic loading on this bed. It is thy work. It poisons thy sight." —Lodovico to Iago, Othello
I'd say cut. Lacks context.
3. " I'm the queen bee!! The other bees show their affection to me and I will enjoy their honey! I AM the queen of this art room! It should be an honor to serve me! Those who don't feel honored are fools who need to know their place!!!" —Nafumi Shintani, Higanbana No Saku Yoru Ni
Also lacks context.
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."I agree with cutting Liddell until more solid information can be provided. There's just no way to tell what her crimes are when no one can read the manga at the moment.
Moving on, I'm fine with keeping the Frank and Phantom quotes, as I was kind of unsure of those anyway, and I'm all for cutting those that Morgenthaler, Awesomekid, and Beast have listed.
No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!I say cut to almost all those quotes. Only one I could see keeping is Frank's, and even that could be moved to the Psycho for Hire page.
@60506 and 60508
By Frank do you mean Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West or Frank Horrigan from Fallout 2? (I assume the former, but I want to make sure)
Anyway, I kind of take back what I said about the Curtis Blackburn quote since I overlooked the mention that he flat out goes after kids for their organs.
edited 4th Jun '16 9:28:59 AM by Awesomekid42
ACW: Prince Eric doesn't count due to simply failing the heinous standard. While brutal, sadistic and power hungry the worst things he does is: have a man tortured, send several assassins after Nick's key, and have one of his own loyal followers experimented on to get a demonstration of Samedi's poison.
Baron Samedi's acts of mass terrorism and slavery are entirely independent to him, Eric just had him create a situation where he could kidnap and enslave Nick. Likewise Eric does show the occasional moment of care for his brother and his father, to short to be absolutely sure if its genuine, but enough to potentially disqualify him.
Really he probably would have gone onto qualify, but his actor was busy with other projects forcing the writers to kill him off after one season. As such he was replaced by Viktor, who doesn't qualify due to the fact his actions are motivated not by personal ambition, but by the fact his uncle will have him brutally murdered if he fails, and for being a lot less sadistic than Eric.
Viktor himself was replaced by the much more brutal Kenneth, who arguably might qualify but I don't think he manages to do enough (one account of having a man tortured to death, around five murders as background of a plan, corrupting the near insane Juliette and killing Nick's mother), as immediately after that last one Nick naturally hunts him down and kills him in a pretty satisfying manner.
Really Conrad's the first Big Bad who is sufficiently heinous and doesn't have any sympathetic traits.
Speaking of that's 3
, any more votes for Conrad Bonaparte?
edited 4th Jun '16 9:40:43 AM by MGD107
Alright, let's do this. If everything in this post is in order, I'll Copy/Paste it into the Drafts or the Quotes Redo.
AFTER-POST EDIT: MY GOSH THIS WAS HARDER THAN I THOUGHT IT'D BE. I'd better get an
before this is over....
First, quotes that are basically unanimous 'Cuts':
Anime/Manga:
PoH: I know it's your favorite but last time we did that you killed the winner anyway.
Johnny Black: Oh come on! You spoiled it! It's no fun if they know they're gonna die!
Film:
Hanbei Kitou: Huh?
Matsudaira: You think the age of war was like this?
Kitou: Perhaps
Matsudaira: It's magnificent. With death comes gratitude for life. If a man has lived in vain, then how trivial his life is. Oh, Hanbei. Something wonderful has come to my mind.
Kitou: Huh?
Matsudaira: Once I'm on the Shogun's council, let's bring the age of war.
Guy: Let her go!
Fender: To Atlanta?
Guy: To cure the plague with the information that she's carrying.
Fender: I want to own it.
Guy: Own the cure?
Fender: I'd be a God.
Guy: But the misery could be stopped.
Fender: I like the misery.
Guy: The world could be changed.
Fender: I like this world.
Guy: Go to Hell.
Fender: Been there.
- —Fender before he kills Pearl's bodyguard, Cyborg
Light Yagami: I don't know.
Pazuzu: Until she rots and lies stinking in the Earth!!
Doctor Sam Loomis: Why now?
Dr. Wynn: After Jamie escaped last night, I knew she would come to you. And I knew you would lead us to her baby, her very special baby. I needed her, just as I need you now. It's your destiny Sam, it lives inside you. It always has, you know that don't you?
Doctor Sam Loomis: You are... a mad man.
Doctor Sam Loomis: Michael?
Dr. Wynn: We've given him the power, the gift of thorn. I am its deliverer. I follow it, act as its guardian! I protect Michael, watch over him. And... now it's time for another. Now it's time for you, Doctor Loomis.
Doctor Sam Loomis: Why now?
Dr. Wynn: Because you were the first one to see it. You recognized its power. Evil, pure, uncorrupted, ancient....
Doctor Sam Loomis: You are a mad man.
Dr. Wynn: I have my plans for this baby. Jamie's baby, will be the dawn of a new age. And I'm asking you to join me.
Chance Boudreaux: I don't see one.
Fouchon: You're looking at him! Come on you son of a bitch, take your best shot!
Live-Action:
Man: God is in my heart, so I know there is always hope.
March: (moves the man to the chute he drops bodies down) Do you think there's hope now? Do you think God is going to protect you from the head of this hammer? Or the six floors you're about to fall?
Man: As long as there is a God, men like you can kill thousands. Millions. But you won't ever find peace.
March: (laughs) Well, then, I guess I'm just going to have to kill God. That is my message to the world. (smacks the man in the back of the head with his hammer, killing him)
Davros: Electrical energy, Miss Tyler. Every atom in existence is bound by an electrical field; the Reality Bomb cancels it out. Structure falls apart. That test was focused on the prisoners alone; full transmission will dissolve every form of matter.
Rose: The stars are going out...!
The Doctor: [horrified] The 27 planets, they've become one vast transmitter, blasting that wavelength-
Davros: Across the entire universe! Never stopping, never faultering, never fading. People and planets and stars will become dust! And the dust will become atoms, and the atoms will become...nothing. And the wavelength will continue, breaking through the rift at the heart of the Medusa Cascade into every dimension, every parallel, every single corner of creation! This is my ultimate victory, Doctor! THE DESTRUCTION OF REALITY ITSELF!!
"Your brother was not a wise King. Your brother was not a good King. If he had been, perhaps he would still be alive."
- —Tywin Lannister to Tommen Baratheon, referring to Joffrey Baratheon, Game of Thrones, "Breaker of Chains"
Dr. Daniel Jackson: Then killing all the System Lords would just open the way for him to take over completely. You always said that a bunch of warring System Lords was better than one all powerful one, so...
Selmak: You do not understand how bad Anubis is. He was banished by the System Lords because his crimes were unspeakable, even to the Goa'uld.
Video Games:
Cole: Blood? You're the one trying to trick humanity into killing anybody with a power!
Western Animation:
Donatello: Lethal.
Michelangelo: Competent!
Now, quotes I'm unsure where we stand on:
Anime/Manga:
Film:
Frank: People scare better when they're dying.
Erik Destler: Everyone dies...I only choose the time and place for a few.
Christine Day: When do you choose for me?
Erik Destler: This is either a wedding march or a funeral mass. You decide which.
Other Media:
edited 4th Jun '16 11:50:00 AM by Ravok
No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!I'm pretty sure that Nafumi's quote was unanimously downvoted (without context, it's an It's All About Me scenario); besides, I think the second quote regarding her perfectly describes her personality.
edited 4th Jun '16 12:09:51 PM by AustinDR
- Boruto Naruto The Movie: Momoshiki Otsutsuki is a member of the ancient Otsutsuki clan who arrives on the Naruto earth and promptly drains Killer Bee of chakra, leaving him for dead. Intending to harvest all the chakra of Kaguya Otsusuki, which would likely kill every living being with chakra on the planet, Momoshiki attempts to cultivate a new chakra tree to enhance his own power. While the chūnin exams are underway, Momoshiki and his partner Kinshiki Otsutsuki attack the Leaf Village, Momoshiki destroying everything in sight while laughing like a maniac as he targets civilians. Only Naruto's sacrifice saves Momoshiki from annihilating the entire village, and possibly more, with a huge attack. Capturing Naruto, Momoshiki attempts to drain him dry of chakra and shows no remorse in literally eating the loyal Kinshiki for more power, or trying to kill all of Naruto's rescuers; even his twelve-year-old son Boruto.
- Date A Live: Sir Isaac Ray Peram Westcott is the Director of Deus.Ex.Machina Industries and the driving force behind all evil in the franchise. Having summoned the First Spirit to Earth, resulting in an explosion that killed 150 million people and allowing more Spirits to enter the human world, Westcott used the ensuing chaos to set his plans into motion. Said Spirits, invariably teenage girls, are regularly attacked by Westcott's Elite Guard: soldiers, some of whom are children, that Westcott brainwashed into becoming fanatics of his cause, while also performing painful experiments on them that, while upgrading their abilities, shortened their life spans by decades. Showing no regard for his own troops, Westcott regularly sends entire squadrons on suicide missions, has the limbs of those who doubt him sliced off, and kills any who outlive their usefulness; he even "tested" his Dragon after a Spirit, keeping to himself said Spirit's weakness, just to amuse himself. Hoping to capture a Spirit attending a concert, Westcott orders an attack on the concert populated by hundreds of families, and orders his soldiers to kill as many innocents as possible for fun. Desiring to awaken the Inverse forms of the Spirits by driving them into despair-induced insanity, Westcott attacks them, kills their loved ones in front of them, and, in one case, tortured a Spirit for 5 years, wiped said torture from her mind, then forced all of the pain back on her at once to drive her insane. Westcott then plans to rip out the Spirits' Inverted souls, use them to make himself all-powerful, then remake the world in his image. Though putting up a polite, friendly exterior, Westcott is a psychopathic narcissist who despises all that is good in the world, while relishing any and all forms of wickedness humans are capable of.
- DC Showcase shorts:
- DC Showcase: Jonah Hex: Madame Lorraine is a seductress who makes a practice of enticing men and luring them into her clutches. Once she has them, Lorraine coldly shoots them dead, takes their money, and has her flunkies dump their bodies in a mine shaft. Lorraine comes into conflict with Jonah Hex after she kills one of his bounties and attempts to repeat the process on him. Once Hex forces Lorraine to show him where his bounty's body is, Lorraine shows him into the mine shaft, where the decaying bodies of all the men—at least 15 victims—Lorraine has killed are seen.
- Superman/Shazam!: The Return of Black Adam: Black Adam is presented here without any of his more redeemable traits. Once chosen as the Earth's savior, Adam's power consumed him to the point where he considered himself nothing less than a god, forcing Shazam to cast him out in a far point in space. Upon coming to Earth, the very first thing Adam does is redirect his impact path into an inhabited parking lot, before seeking out and intending to kill Shazam's next candidate Billy Batson. Throughout his appearance, Adam shows glorification in exercising his own power over living beings, attempting to flood all of Fawcett City as a distraction and taking a hostage to force Billy to depower himself—later trying to kill the hostage anyways—while relating his supremacist philosophies to Billy. Once he's beaten, Adam contents himself with smugly goading Billy into a Not So Different position. Adam would willingly hurt anyone and anything so long as the result would be to his benefit.
- Aquaman: Black Manta, real name David, makes his living as a brutal pirate, often in the employ of others, and is obsessed with destroying Aquaman at all costs. To this end, Manta killed Aquaman's infant son by trapping him in a chamber that suffocated the boy, despite Arthur's best efforts to save him. Manta continues to torment his nemesis by targeting and murdering those he can. Not even Manta's own family is exempt from his cruelty: his own son, the new Aqualad, was the target of Manta's wrath when Manta attempted to murder him with zealous hatred, for no other reason than rejecting the path Manta wanted for him. In Brightest Day, Manta tries to go straight, opening up a fish market, but when the customers rejoice that Aquaman is alive, Manta murders them with a knife, before burning down his own house and resuming his quest for vengeance. Manta is a vicious, hateful murderer who would poison the entire ocean just for the chance to hurt his nemesis.
- Rosario + Vampire fanfic Rosario Vampire: Brightest Darkness: Falla Cii was one of the three princesses of the chronofly kingdom, along with Luna and Complica. Viewing the Complica as a disgrace for their species, she sent her to her death by telling her how to use a forbidden spell to save her deceased boyfriend. Out of jealousy that Luna was going to become the queen instead of her, Falla attemped to kill her several times—including one which caused her father's death—then caused the near-extinction of her race. In the Act IV, to get Luna to restore her powers, Falla tricked her and her friends into thinking she wanted to become a good person. She then bisected Luna and rubbed in the others' faces that her this was all an act. Brought back as a soul thanks to the Big Bad, and planning to get the Pandora's box keys from the group to get back her body, she gleefully tortured her alternate self, threatening to kill Kyouko if she doesn't let her do so, and she forcing the others to watch all of it. A self-centered, manipulative sadist, devoid of any empathy or moral conscience whatsoever, Falla is nothing short of a sociopathic monster.
- Operation: Turnabout:
- The Big Bad, Captain Adel Renard, was a corrupt member of the Peace Corps, selling explosives to enemy groups. When he learned that a group of insurgents were planning to pay him in foreign money that they knew would be useless to him in exchange for Helios 6 explosives, he decided to betray them first. Convincing the corrupt Captain Janus Harvey to help him deliver the explosives, he neglected to give the group the detonator, rendering the explosives useless. He than called the police and had the insurgents sent to the firing squad before they could testify against him. After convincing Harvey to kill most of his platoon to prevent them from ever learning of the incident, he proceeded to blackmail Harvey over the incident, knowing that the latter had no evidence the former was involved. When Harvey was going to be granted immunity in exchange for testifying about the Helios 6 incident, Renard poisoned him. After Phoenix exposes his past crimes in court, he brags about them to the courtroom while stating that since they ere committed overseas, he cannot be tried for them. He than taunted Siegfried and Victoria about their upcoming executions for a murder they did not commit, even mocking Victoria about her lost eye by calling her a "cyclops".
- The aforementioned Captain Janus Harvey was a corrupt member of the Peace Corps who was convinced by the Big Bad to help smuggle explosives to a group of insurgents, not knowing of his manipulations but expecting to receive a legitimate amount of money while the insurgents would be able to use the explosives for whatever evil intents they had. After being betrayed, and knowing he couldn't prove Renard was involved, he still followed his advice to murder most of his platoon in an explosion so that they could never uncover what he had done. He never felt any remorse for his actions, and spent the rest of his life trying to pin the blame on others while insisting he had done no wrong, only agreeing to testify about the incident when he was promised immunity for any involvement.
- Action Jackson: Peter Dellaplane is an industrialist who ruins his business partner and has him murdered, also dispatching his first wife due to financial issues. When his plans for work are interrupted by a union, Dellaplane begins having the union members killed to deal with the issue. When he realizes his current wife has caught on to the plan, Dellaplane murders her as well and reveals he intends to arrange an accident for his own son in prison to clear up any loose ends, while attempting to murder his own own mistress and framing Police Sgt. Jericho "Action" Jackson for his crimes, after killing and burning him.
- The Guardian (1990): Camilla may seem like a kindly British nanny, but she is really an evil tree spirit who can take human form. Camilla's M.O is to sign up with various baby sitting services, pretend to be a good caretaker for the infants she is hired to care for, but eventually steal them away. Camilla then sacrifices these babies to a demonic tree, destroying their bodies and trapping their souls within the tree. She has done this several times. Camilla's latest intended victim is the Sterling family, and when the competition comes down to her and another woman for the nanny position, Camilla kills her and makes it look like a biking accident. When Ned Runcie, a friend of the Sterling family, follows Camilla into the woods to ask her for a date, he discovers her performing bizarre demonic rituals. To silence him, Camilla has her pet coyotes rip him apart. When the Sterling family discovers her true plans, they fire Camilla, at which point she tries to steal the baby away and murder the parents.
- Jonah Hex:
- Quentin Turnbull was once a high-ranking Confederate general who, after the events of Gettysburg, decided to show how "weak" the Union was by ordering entire hospitals and schools annihilated, leading one of Turnbull's own soldiers, Jonah Hex, to betray him, kill his son in self-defense, then turn him over to the Union. Escaping custody, Turnbull tracks down Hex and forces him to watch as he has his Dragon, Burke, burn the man's wife and son alive, before branding Hex's face and leaving him to die. Spending the next years creating a super weapon, Turnbull hijacks a train shipment after having the occupants killed, and uses the contents of the shipment to finish his weapon, then wiping out an entire town and its hundreds of residents to test it. Turnbull then plans to use his weapon to annihilate Washington, D.C. during the Independence Day celebration, killing the thousands of innocents attending, along with the President of the United States. Though at first seeming to genuinely care for his dead son, Quentin Turnbull quickly shed that aspect of his personality, showing that all he cared for was the complete annihilation of the current government of the United States, no matter how many innocents had to die in the process.
- The aforementioned Burke is the psychotic Dragon of Turnbull, and matches his boss's emotionless cruelty with sheer psychopathic sadism. Assisting Turnbull in all of his crimes, Burke personally, and happily, burns Jonah Hex's wife and son alive, then holds Hex in place to be branded by Turnbull and left for dead. Fully aware, and approving, of Turnbull's plans to use his super weapon to wipe out thousands of innocents, Burke blows up an entire train to obtain parts for said weapon, killing the dozens of soldiers, citizens, and children on board, and later massacres the population of a small town to acquire the ammunition for Turnbull's super weapon. Kidnapping Hex's Love Interest Lilah to use as a hostage, Burke takes sadistic glee in smacking her around; threatens innocents with death for kicks; and regularly taunts Jonah about his family's deaths. Dying while laughing at Hex's misfortune, Burke was a homicidal lunatic who seemed to only work with Turnbull to satisfy his lust for sadism and mass murder.
- Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves: In this version of the legends, Robin's Arch-Enemy, Sheriff George of Nottingham, is trying to usurp the throne of England from Richard the Lionheart. He tries to convince Robin's father to join him, and kills him when he refuses. He then trumps up charges of Devil worship so he can seize Locksley as his own, has a castellan's eyes put out for doubting the charges, and becomes a cruel despot who has children killed for hunting on his land and sexually exploits women. When Robin first defies the Sheriff, he threatens to Cut His Heart Out with a Spoon. The Sheriff then gives Guy of Gisborne a fortnight to capture Robin Hood, and runs him through with a sword when he fails. After that, the Sheriff attacks the Merry Men's village and takes captives, including children, whom he threatens to hang if Maid Marian doesn't marry him. On their wedding day, the Sheriff decides to hang some of them anyways, starting with a kid, before Robin rescues them all. The Sheriff then tries to force himself on Marian as the Bishop is saying the wedding vows.
- SPL II: A Time for Consequences:
- Hung Man-kong, a ruthless crime lord who leads a crime syndicate Chan-chi Kit is sent to infiltrate, makes his fortune in a particularly nasty way: harvesting organs from those who are sent to a specific prison, with many people sacrificed this way. When he discovers he has an incurable disease and needs a heart transplant, he has no compunction trying to harvest his own brother's heart and even mocks him when he's begging for his life on the operating table. When this fails, Hung attempts to kill his brother himself to personally rip out his heart.
- Ko Chun is a major player in the crime syndicate and the warden of the prison where the organ harvesting victims are sent. Running the prison with an iron fist, Ko Chun has anyone who defies him beaten, tortured or killed regardless of whether or not they are destined to get their organs harvested. When one of the few honest guards tries to help the good guys, Ko Chun has him tortured and ends the film attempting to slaughter the heroes for interfering with how he runs his little kingdom.
- Dragon Tears, by Dean Koontz: Bryan Dracman, AKA "Tick Tock", is a Serial Killer who can create golems and stop time. A killer from an early age, Dracman collects the eyes of his victims as trophies and mentally tortures his invalid mother by mocking her with the knowledge of what he does so much that she literally prays for someone to kill her son. Dracman often tells a victim they'll be dead in a set amount of time, then freezes time and sends a golem to stalk them, or hunts them down himself, murdering them and collecting their eyes. Living only for his twisted desires and game, Dracman will relentlessly hound any victim he's chosen until he takes their lives and takes their eyes to preserve as a reminder of his victory.
- The Face, by Dean Koontz: Vladimir "Corky" Laputa is a Serial Killer and anarchist dedicated to overthrowing society and committing as much chaos as he possibly can. As a member of a ring of like-minded anarchists, Corky masterminds a scheme to kidnap a famous actor's son, slowly torture and starve him to death in a small chamber, and broadcast it to the world so they can see the boy's suffering. Corky regularly murders vagabonds and drifters, murders his co-conspirators to cover his tracks and locks a professor in the chambers he intends to use for the child before poisoning him fatally.
- Hideaway, by Dean Koontz: Jeremy Nyebern, AKA Vassago, is a youth who murdered his mother and sister before taking a possible trip to hell. Believing himself to be a demonic prince, he turns to murdering men and women alike, preserving their corpses in an amusement park he uses as a hideout. When Hatch Harrison, is psychically connected to Vassago, Vassago learns of Hatch's wife and daughter and attempts to murder them as well, planning on dismembering and torturing Hatch's young daughter for fun.
- Midnight, by Dean Koontz: Thomas Shaddack is a brilliant computer scientist who is experimenting for ways to remove human restraint and morality. Having murdered his family to "free" himself at a young age, Shaddack's experiments result in people being turned into feral, bestial monsters that murder anyone who gets too close to Shaddack's experiments. Shaddack's ultimate plan is to use this process on all of humanity to indulge every twisted desire he's ever had, and even leaves a Dead Man Switch to kill all his victims should Shaddack's own heart ever stop.
- Velocity, by Dean Koontz: Steve Zillis and his accomplice Valis are a team of serial killers known as "The Freak", who send Billy Wiles a letter detailing a Sadistic Choice: if the victim goes to the police, they'll kill someone, but if the victim does not they'll kill someone else; the two proceed to kill a friend of his. Their second victim is tortured to death and the third is shot, while along the way, they torture Billy by jabbing a fishhook through his scalp. At the end, Billy finally catches on to them when his wife in a coma is the final intended victim.
- The Incredible Hulk: Michael Sutton from season 3's "The Snare" has become bored with hunting animals, and so he decides to start Hunting the Most Dangerous Game. On his own island, he finds whatever men he can and invites them over, only to drug them to sleep and put them through deadly obstacles as he hunts them down, succeeding at least 5 times, and seeing it all as a "game." He intends to do the same to David Banner. It's implied that the reason he's so successful is because he doesn't play fair, a fact David calls him out on, insisting that a real hunter plays fair and that all Sutton about is winning. When Sutton discovers David's inner beast, he intends to whip David with the intent of bringing it out and killing it, only to kill himself by accident. At the end of the episode, it turns out even in death Sutton can't stand losing, as it's revealed he booby trapped David's escape boat in preparation for the hero's victory. Ruthless, psychotic, and a cheater at his own game, Michael Sutton was unlike any other villain on the show, who were motivated by either tragedy or simple financial gain.
- Dark Souls III: Dark Souls is a dark series, but in the third installment, two of the villains manage to outdo any other for sheer horror:
- Aldrich, Saint of the Deep and Devourer of Gods, was a cleric who founded The Church of the Deep and took to devouring the flesh of men for power. Turning to devouring the undead, Aldrich grew bloated and mutated into a hideous, slug-like being who continued to devour countless people alive, luxuriating in their screams. Eventually sacrificed to become a Lord of Cinder, Aldrich was revived and housed within the Cathedral of the Deep where he continued to have helpless people fed to him. In his most profane act, Aldrich devoured the god Gwyndolin slowly, keeping him in a state of unending agony.Not even children were safe from Aldrich, and only two, Anri and Horace, ever escaped the Devourer's hunger.
- Pontiff Sulyvahn, the leader of the Church of the Deep and Aldrich's right-hand man and Psycho Supporter, was driven by jealousy and hatred towards the Gods and joined with Aldrich to exact his vengeance. Desiring power above all others after he discovered the Profaned Flame, Sulyvahn eliminated potential problems by forming the Outrider Knights and gifting them with rings that turned them into feral beasts with their minds twisted and destroyed, leaving nothing but rage. As the Pontiff of the Church of the Deep, Sulyvahn had Anor Londo devastated, with countless people rounded up to be fed to Aldrich, and even imprisoned Gwyndolin in the Cathedral to feed him to Aldrich. Unlike the majority of the series's villains, Sulyvahn is entirely sane and, driven by nothing more than hatred, cruelty and an insatiable thirst for power, has no regard for who or what he must destroy.
- Vandal Savage, originally known as Hath-Set, is an immortal tyrant bent on world domination and the Big Bad for season 1. Starting out as an obsessive Stalker with a Crush to Chay-ara, the future Hawkgirl, Hath-Set murdered her and her lover Prince Khufu, the future Hawkman, when he discovered their relationship. After becoming immortal, he repeated this crime in each of their reincarnations, often resorting to extreme methods to do so, such as triggering a destructive flood, killing millions, and threatening to lay waste to Central City. Over the millennia, Savage has manipulated and worked with a number of historical figures, including Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin, to help further his goals. In his campaign for world domination, Savage commits a number of terrible crimes, including horrifying human experimentation in attempts to replicate Hawkman and Firestorm's powers, selling a nuclear warhead to terrorist groups, and leading a cult that worships him as a god. Acting as a mentor to Per Degaton in the 22nd century, Savage manipulates him into murdering his own father, then releases a biological weapon to decimate the world's population. Savage later betrays and murders Degaton, using his resources to take over the world. Conquering Earth by 2166, Savage causes billions of deaths, uses a giant robot as a weapon of mass destruction and personally murders Rip Hunter's wife and son, endlessly taunting Rip over this as they encounter each other throughout history. In the end, Savage attempts to cause a temporal paradox that will reset history back to Ancient Egypt, where he plans to start his war of conquest all over again.
edited 7th Jun '16 5:35:36 AM by ACW
