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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

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#325501: Oct 1st 2022 at 8:18:26 PM

On going works can have keepers before they're finished if either the villain is defeated or if they don't show any signs of being disqualified later, we have a bunch of character up from ongoing works like One Piece. We mark TBA for works that are either ongoing or have unknown release dates

[down]Quote's good

Edited by papyru30 on Oct 1st 2022 at 12:12:27 PM

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HighfalutinQuelea Since: Sep, 2016
#325502: Oct 1st 2022 at 8:42:21 PM

Does this quote on Colm O'Driscoll work?

Official: Fair citizens of Saint Denis, for as long as any of us can remember, it is justice that separates us from barbary. Yet justice itself can at times be barbaric. For sometimes a man is so savage, the only way to deal with him justly is by savagery. Colm O'Driscoll is one such man. He has murdered, tortured, robbed, stolen, raped, and abused for a decade across five states, seemingly with impunity. Today, justice catches up with him.
Colm: (laughs) As well you may. I've been a bad man!

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#325503: Oct 1st 2022 at 9:04:07 PM

New here, but sounds good, given it basically accurately describes all he did and his lack of remorse.

Edited by Purgatoryisof2 on Oct 1st 2022 at 12:04:30 PM

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#325506: Oct 1st 2022 at 10:52:32 PM

[tup] Theo, Pat, Gemini and Colm quote

Edited by DemonDuckofDoom on Oct 1st 2022 at 10:52:42 AM

DrUnknown Since: May, 2020
#325507: Oct 1st 2022 at 11:32:21 PM

[tup] to Folsom Westcott, the Isaac Westcott quote, General Oba Ade, Gul Durak, Agatha, Theo Straka, the Jerry "the Fiddler" rewrite, the Sergeant Atkin rewrite, the Colm O'Driscoll quote, Gemini, and Pat Sprigs.

[tdown] to Ayaka Kamimochi and Jago.

@WetFlannels: Oops, you're right. Sorry for the typo there.

@G-Editor: Glad to hear you made it out okay from the hurricane.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#325508: Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:23:51 AM

Colm and Nguyen quotes work.

Ah good, that opens up an extra pothole in Dale's entry for me to pothole Monk's character page.

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#325509: Oct 2nd 2022 at 5:35:51 AM

[tup]Colm and Nguyen quotes, decided yes for Theo

@Dr Unknown No worries there, you do a lot of bulk votes so it's understandable with an occasional mistype

Also the reason I asked about pages is because the Spyro Franchise has 7 keepers with 5 in games, 1 comic,1 script so I wasn't sure how we dealt with spread out YMM Vs. Not pushing for a page, was just unsure on how we handle it.

Edited by WetFlannels on Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:39:23 PM

Oh, Mr. Kennedy, you entertain me. To show my appreciation, I will help you awaken from your world of clichés.
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#325510: Oct 2nd 2022 at 8:16:29 AM

I don't think Spyro is needed quite yet as there aren't really any complications that would mean the page makes sense, probably if we get one or two more but not quite yet.

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#325511: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:06:41 AM

  • The Expanse
  • "Genesis Universe" or "Protectors Universe":
    • Extreme is the main antagonist of Genesis, who was once sold as a slave in the past until he killed his captors and use his newfound powers to conquer entire worlds. Through his conquest, Extreme absorbs the energies of each dimension and use them to wipe out cities and reduce worlds into ashes, taking the surviving inhabitants as slaves for his empire. Extreme makes his introduction by murdering the king of a dimension he conquered along with troops trying to stop him. He enters the Ex-Mutants universe and delivers the team a vicious beatdown, then murders one of his minions for disobeying him. Extreme begins battling the Protectors which ends up destroying all of Los Angeles, killing millions, all while Extreme begins boasting how he'll reduce the Earth to nothing but a pile of ashes.
    • The Protectors
      • The Great Question is the diabolical arch-villain responsible for the creation of the titular heroes as well as the true mastermind behind the Steel Army. The Great Question sought to open a dimensional doorway to other worlds in order to grant himself godhood, so he orchestrated the Steel Army's numerous terrorist attacks claiming many lives in their quest to destroy all of Washington DC just to gain attention from the government. The Great Question would later use his Psychic Powers on John Aman, the Amazing Man, to take control of him, constantly driving the latter to murderous rage against his allies. In the Air Man tie-in comic, the Great Question has Thresher horribly tortured in order to locate the interdimensional doorway. After finding what he was after, the Great Question opens numerous portals that began destroying part of the world; murders his old foe The Eye; and shows no concerns that his actions would doom the Earth, as long as he achieves total power and godhood, ending up destroying the whole planet completely.
      • The terrorist known as Mr. Monday, real name Professor Erwin Montag, is the first foe the Protectors faced as well as the commander of the Steel Army. He begins the story by leading a massacre at a police station just to establish a message. Declaring his intent to raze Washington, D.C. to the ground, Monday leads his army across the US, killing civilians and cops alike in his mission of attempting to assassinate the founder of the Protectors and former superhero Philip Reinhart. Mr. Monday, under orders of the Great Question, lures Night Mask to a trap and takes sadistic pleasure in torturing him before killing the young hero. After his defeat, Mr. Monday breaks out of prison, leading to the death of multiple soldiers, and goes off killing Air Man and Arc, taking sadistic glee on killing two more heroes.
      • Gravestone issues #1-3: The Night-Plague is an ancient, highly sadistic creature that threatens to bring doomsday to the world. Once summoned by a renegade sorcerer in the past, the entity was responsible for wiping out Atlantis and its population. Returning in the present by possessing the body of long-deceased teen named Melissa Grant, murdering her whole family, the Night-Plague resurrects a horde of zombies to devour everything in their path, while attempting to slowly kill Gravestone.
      • The Ferret issue #10—"Chains of Love": The nameless Serial Killer is a mysterious supranormal who uses a biker bar as means to hunt down young women, beating and burning them to death with his power-ignited chains. Already claiming the lives of six women, he tracks down a detective attempting to catch him, attempting to make her his seventh victim.
    • Ex-Mutants issues #1-3: Sluggo is the mutant tyrant of Sluggtown, running his town through enslavement of other mutants. Any slave under his role is put to hard labor building monuments of himself to satiate his ego, and given collars that explode their heads for any mistake they could make. In other cases, Sluggo puts his slaves in Gladiator Games to fight to the death or killed by monsters for his amusement, something he once did to the titular heroes in the past. Sluggo, growing tired of the Ex-Mutants' constant interference, hires thugs to use a Mind-Control Device on three of the Ex-Mutant members in order to have them killed in the arena, and later tries to have them murder their own friends. Once this fails, Sluggo leaves his right-hand man to die to preserve his own life.
    • Street Fighter: M. Bison employs Sagat and Balrog to assassinate Ryu's friends, including Ken, to weaken Ryu and lure him in. Bison has Ken assaulted, and later stabbed to death, delivering a chunk of his scalped hair to Ryu afterwards. While recruiting Vega, Bison snaps the neck of a monk and sends an assassin to poison Sheng Long, Ryu's mentor, in order for him not to intervene with his plans. Bison also augments Sagat's powers to a near-deadly rate, allowing him to brutally beat and seemingly kill some of his men in training, to prepare him for another fight with the Street Fighters.
  • Savanti Romero was once Lord Simultaneous's assistant who developed a lust for power, eventually trying to erase Simultaneous from existence. Banished to the 13th century, Savanti turns a village into his domain and attempts to use Simultaneous's time scepter to raise an army of the undead and have them slaughter all who oppose him. In the Cretaceous period, Savanti, consumed with revenge, lures Renet and the Turtles into a trap and attempts to sacrifice her as part of a spell that would cause the comet that killed the dinosaurs to miss, erasing countless lives. Savanti later appears in 12th century Japan, trying to build himself a new empire and wiping out anyone that opposes him, knowing that it would erase their descendants as well. Reappearing after a long absence, Savanti attempts to use an ancient artifact to allow him to become a god and remake creation in his own twisted image.
  • Beyblade: Metal Saga: Doji, the leader of the Dark Nebula, aims to sow darkness across the world. Invading Koma Village with Ryuga to steal the forbidden Beyblade, L-Drago, Doji seemingly causes Gingka's father to die. In the present, Doji forces Kyoya to work with him and puts him through a life-threatening training program so he can use him to defeat Gingka. Upon failure, Doji injures Kyoya and invites the heroes to challenge him at the Dark Nebula Castle, awakening Ryuga and L-Drago. Recruiting more Bladers into the Dark Nebula, Doji feeds their souls to L-Drago if they fail him. Doji opens Battle Bladers, allowing powerful Bladers to enter so L-Drago can absorb their power. Though Doji himself eventually suffers the same fate, he is revived along with everyone else killed by L-Drago and lays low until Metal Fury, where he assembles the Nemesis Bladers and reveals his ultimate goal—to awaken Nemesis. Provoking Ryuga into the battle that would cause his death, Doji sadistically mocks him all throughout for having been his pawn, right up until his death.
  • Future Boy Conan: Lepka is the ruthless Chief of Administration in Industria, one of the final bastions of humanity after war ravaged the Earth. Lepka seeks to repeat the mistakes of the past for the sake of his own power by utilizing one of the ancient warplanes that devastated Earth to conquer it. Already responsible for having branded and thrown hundreds of people into Industria's dungeons—a fate he threatens for the two young protagonists—Lepka steadily becomes worse as the plot goes on, betraying Industria's Security Council and attempting to drown thousands of innocent people to flush out the heroes, all after lying that he would save them if they caved into his Sadistic Choice. Lepka tortures the old, pacifistic Dr. Lao to the point where he goes both blind and deaf; repeatedly threatens to kill Lao's granddaughter; and he has no compunction killing his own men and abandoning them all to die when his plans go south. As a spiritual predecessor to future Miyazaki villain Muska, Lepka is unusually and totally Beyond Redemption in an otherwise idealistic series.
  • Vigilantes: Queen Bee, aka Kuin Hachisuka, is a Quirk-using queen bee and a dealer for the dangerous drug Trigger. Having critically wounded the wife of the hero Knuckle Duster and possessed his daughter Tamao, Queen Bee proceeds to infect innocent civilians with Trigger, causing painful rampages. Queen Bee then convinces the vigilante Stendahl to murder delinquents, causing a passenger-filled bus to crash and infecting one of her friends. Queen Bee then attempts to infect an entire concert with Trigger and tries to detonate explosive-filled bees when cornered and kill Tamao out of spite for her father. Upon barely surviving, the remaining Queen Bee infects and possesses the hero Kazuho Haneyama, driving her mad and causing her to become "Bee Pop" and go on a bombing rampage with full intent to murder as many civilians as she possibly can to get the attention of the heroic Koichi. Aiming to kill countless civilians and be remembered while also ruining the lives of Koichi and Kazuho, Queen Bee proves her deadly influence exists even long after her supposed "death".
  • The Sharp Beak Prince (link): Agatha is the cruel mother of Ptero and Queen of a pack of Sharp Beaks. Desiring the total conversion of Ptero into a carnivore to keep the pack in her family, Agatha murders her husband and frames his friends, attacking their herd shortly after and killing some while the others flee. When Ptero, who she continuously secluded, guilt-tripped, and forced into hunts, runs off, Agatha orders a search for him and refuses her subjects a break. After finding her son, Agatha threatens the lives of Littlefoot and the rest of the Gang of Five to get him to come. In the ensuing fight between them and the newly-arrived grownups, Agatha attempts to kill her own son for failing her, thus dropping both any love for him and goal of keeping the pack prosperous.
  • 1492: Conquest of Paradise: Adrián de Moxica is imagined as Christopher Columbus's Arch-Enemy, a Spanish blackguard who immediately sees it fit to start indiscriminately slaughtering Native tribes the second he has pretext to. Swayed against this by Columbus, Moxica enslaves the natives instead, lopping off the hand of one who fails to bring him any gold. Moxica attempts to lead a bloody mutiny against Columbus and spitefully commits suicide when this fails, mocking Columbus over how his dreams of a new Eden have failed.
  • The Carmilla Movie: Elle Sheridan was a noblewoman who, discovering her lover Carmilla was a vampire, betrayed Carmilla to her mother before her death. Unable to cross into the afterlife with the other sacrifice victims, Elle became resentful of Carmilla and Laura's life, tormenting Laura with nightmares, luring her, Carmilla, and their friends to her mansion. Elle gathers the other ghosts, manipulating them into preparing a ritual that would help them move on, with Carmilla willingly giving up her human life. Elle plans to steal Carmilla's life for her own, and condemning the rest of the spirits back into the hell dimension. When it's pointed out she wasn't the only victim and she's condemning all the others, Elle admits to her jealousy and selfishness, with disdain and indifference for everyone else. Elle picks off the group, trapping them in their nightmarish hell, with Carmilla's being constantly reliving Elle's betrayal. When Laura rescues her friends and the ghosts to prepare the ritual, Elle makes one final attempt to disrupt them, holding a knife to Carmilla's throat. Originally seen as a tragic figure of Carmilla's past and even a benevolent spirit, Elle ended up becoming a dark far cry from her previous self.
  • Sin, by J.M. Leduc:
    • Folsom Westcott, the cantankerous head of Homeland Security, is secretly the head of a child Snuff Film ring. Going under the name "El Presidente", Westcott uses his power, fortune, and connections to traffick young girls from Central America and have them raped and murdered on a livestream for him and his friends' viewing pleasure. Having several FBI agents killed when they try to expose his ring in Tumbleboat Key, Westcott manipulates the broken Maggie to do his bidding under the guise of affection, while sending Sinclair "Sin" O'Malley to Tumbleboat with hopes of getting her killed.
    • Ezekiel Miller is the Chief of Police at Tumbleboat Key who secretly assists Westcott in his child snuff operation. The one who gave Westcott the idea to partner with Reverend Jeremiah Heap to use his church and orphanage as his hideout, Miller brutally rapes, tortures, and murders countless children for Westcott and his friends' viewing pleasure, having signed on to indulge in his sadistic love of violence. Killing several FBI agents who attempt to investigate the ring, Miller shows zero care for his own son's death, killing Heap himself to clear up loose ends.
  • Genseishin Justiriser has this sibling duo:
    • Kaiser Hades is an intergalactic warlord bent on conquering the universe and crushing the two planets that stand in his way, Earth and Riser. After destroying Riser, Hades wipes the memories of its hero Rigel to turn him into his loyal minion. Defeated and imprisoned on Earth by the Riser heroine Nolun, Hades resumes his conquest once he's unsealed in the present day, during which he subjects entire cities to repeated kaiju onslaughts and kills his own minions to inspire fear in his other subordinates. For his final plan, Hades attempts to destroy the Earth using the Magneshieldar, a weapon which first emits a powerful shockwave to raze everything on a planet's surface before drilling to the planet's core and causing it to implode on itself, to ensure the world is rendered completely lifeless. After capturing Mio, Hades traps her inside the Majin Statue and tries to trick her Love Interest Shinya into killing her.
    • Majin Daruga, later known as Dark Demon God Kurogane, is the older brother of Kaiser Hades and leader of the Daruga Imperial Army, as well as the one truly responsible for Planet Riser's destruction. Invading and destroying planets across cosmos, Daruga turns his army to Earth after taking an interest in the Justirisers' power. After stealing Shiro Jinno's Riser Power, the newly empowered Kurogane sends hordes of Bulgarios to lay waste to Tokyo and destroy everything in sight, in order to distract the Justirisers while he charges his Gigatron Cannon to destroy the planet. When the Gigatron Cannon is blown up, Kurogane assumes his gigantic true form and goes on a rampage, intent on ravaging Earth so he can rebuild it into the seat of his new empire.
  • Anime adaptation: Gemini and his host Pat Sprigs, also known as Gemini Spark in their combined form, are the Big Bad Duumvirate of the first series based on the first game. Pat Sprigs was in a car accident and, out of spite for his apparent abandonment, he willingly agreed to be the host to the FM-ian, Gemini, despite knowing of the latter's intentions to destroy Earth. Gemini Spark would first induce laughing fits in the population and cause dangerous car wrecks that endanger several lives. When Cygnus gets the Andromeda Key, Gemini Spark steals the key and reveals that they plan on using the key to overthrow the FM King Cepheus. When the key is destroyed, Gemini Spark gives a fake Key to the FM-ians so that they can use the real Key for themselves. When the FM-ians fail to fill up the key and Cepheus orders them to leave Earth, Gemini Spark kills off most of the FM-ians, with only Cancer surviving. Gemini Spark activates the incomplete Key anyway and first has Andromeda obliterate five cities. Pat would later betray and kill Gemini to power up the key fully and begin his own genocidal goals.
  • "The Pianist": In this song inspired by the Creepypasta of the same name, the nameless demon manages to be worse than the one in the original story. Summoning herself to a man desperately trying to learn how to play the piano to impress the woman she loves, the demon offers the man to sell his soul to her in exchange of great pianist skills. The man signs the contract without reading it, and while he obtains what was promised, his music ends up killing everyone who listens to it, including the woman he loves. Confronting the demon about this, she mocks him for not reading the contract, which clearly stated this would have happened. With the man now on her side, the demon continues going after desperate humans to make deals with them, wishing to spread her curse like a disease.
  • Terok Nor one-shot: Gul Durak was the Cardassian military official who tasked another Cardassian Kotan Darek to construct Terok Nor, a space station orbiting the planet Bajor, in order to better extract resources from that planet. Durak is disgusted when Darek saves a Bajoran architect, Charna Sar, from execution, with Darak wanting to use her skills to help build Terok Nor. Durak provides Bajoran slave labor for Darek to use to build Terok Nor. After Terok Nor is completed, Durak plans to have all the Bajoran slaves who built the station ejected from an airlock, including the Bajoran children, saying they have seen too much of the station's specs.
  • The Last Lamia: Dr. Theodore Erswick is the sociopathic leader of Avatech's Project Ascension. After forming a Faustian deal with a tribe of Lamias, Erswick has them kidnapped from their beds at night to conduct excessive experiments and Electric Torture on them, before wiping their memories so that his pact can remain intact. Erswick would later gleefully murder off all the Lamias when instructed, and when he comes across the dying Lamia, Sovereign, he tortures her by shooting her repeatedly, then burns her alive for his amusement. Erswick would later conduct horrific and torturous experiments on innocent people, killing them or transforming them into mindless monsters in constant agony. When rebel leader Xander makes a deal with Erswick to save his sister, Erswick betrays him and instead injects all four members of the rebel group with an experimental formula, with Lani burning to death from the inside and technician Brec transforming into another monster as a result.
  • Carmilla:
    • Season 2: Baron Vordenberg is a member of the Silas Board of Directors, introduced as a kind, helpful old man, despite his disdain for vampires. Once Laura gets him voted as the Chairman of the Board, Vordenberg immediately shows his true colors by ordering a detainment of all vampires and anything supernatural in Silas University. Vordenberg has some students, including Laura's friend Danny, recruited into his militia, and preaches anti-vampire propaganda. Ignoring the threat of a gate to Hell opening, Vordenberg has Lophiiformes killed, all to make a name for himself. He then intends to execute Carmilla and Mattie, along with any students protecting vampires; the attempted arrest leads to Mattie's death, which he takes credit for. After Laura starts a resistance against him, Vordenberg has Theo betray them and kill Danny. He has the other board members shot before preparing to behead Carmilla, in front of Laura and their friends, taunting them all to their faces while doing so. Despite his doddering demeanor, Vordenberg is far more dangerous than meets the eye, with his claims of heroism being lies he tells to fuel his ego, and live out his fantasies of personal glory.
    • Seasons 2-3: Theo Straka starts out as an passive, if arrogant, acting leader of Zeta Omega Mu, with an open disdain for the Summers and Kirsch. When Vordenberg takes control of Silas, Theo becomes a supportive soldier of the regime, helping with the detainment of supernatural residents and their allies. When Theo seemingly offers to help the resistance with Mel, he betrays them when Vordenberg offers Theo a deal to be his second-in-command. Theo stabs Danny before her helpless friends, smugly watching as she bleeds out. Following Vordenberg's death, Theo becomes the new representative of the Corvae Corporation, working directly under the Dean—the goddess Inanna—in her plot to bring about Hell on Earth, only caring that he's in a position of power. Theo oversees the slavery of students in digging the gates of Hell, putting them through deadly and hazardous conditions, expecting his "brothers" to work under his authority. When a Summer sister makes a deal to benefit the others, Theo has her hang from her wrists above the first five gates, planning to drop her in.
  • The Long Long Holiday: Durand is a resident of the small French town of Grangeville. After the town is occupied by the Nazis, Durand becomes a traitorous collaborator. Durand vows to root out Jews and French citizens who are disloyal to the Vichy regime. When a group of children who name themselves the Robinsons start to resist the Nazis, Durand tries to expose them and have them arrested by the Nazis. Durand manages to get their teacher Mr. Herbin arrested. Durand turns in a Jewish teenager who refuses to wear the Star of David badge to the Nazis and is thus sent to a death camp. Durand ultimately finds the Robinsons' clubhouse in the woods and informs the Nazis of it, happy that the Nazis intend to kill everyone there.

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#325512: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:25:08 AM

@ACW I kinda want the Omnicidal Maniac pothole be left on Question's writeup.

Edited by Powermaster201 on Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:25:30 PM

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#325513: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:29:30 AM

Godhood Seeker is enough to cover the It's All About Me bit, the latter could probably be pulled so OM can be swapped in. Was it submitted with too many linked or something?

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#325514: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:35:04 AM

My issue is, is he actively TRYING to destroy the Earth, or is he just okay if it DOES get destroyed?

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#325515: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:40:26 AM

The latter, but if you find that an issue than add Earth-Shattering Kaboom in the last sentence then.

[down] I'm talking about the last part of the sentence with the whole "Destroying the planet completely" part.

Edit: much better.

Edited by Powermaster201 on Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:50:56 PM

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#325516: Oct 2nd 2022 at 10:45:26 AM

How's this (edited)?

  • The Great Question is the diabolical arch-villain responsible for the creation of the titular heroes as well as the true mastermind behind the Steel Army. The Great Question sought to open a dimensional doorway to other worlds in order to grant himself godhood, so he orchestrated the Steel Army's numerous terrorist attacks claiming many lives in their quest to destroy all of Washington DC just to gain attention from the government. The Great Question would later use his Psychic Powers on John Aman, the Amazing Man, to take control of him, constantly driving the latter to murderous rage against his allies. In the Air Man tie-in comic, the Great Question has Thresher horribly tortured in order to locate the interdimensional doorway. After finding what he was after, the Great Question opens numerous portals that began destroying part of the world; murders his old foe The Eye; and shows no concerns that his actions would doom the Earth, as long as he achieves total power and godhood, and ends up completely destroying the entire planet.

EDIT: Actually, would Diabolical Mastermind work around "diabolical arch-villain"? If so, I can just chop the Cold-Blooded Torture pothole.

Edited by ACW on Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:56:37 PM

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#325518: Oct 2nd 2022 at 1:46:04 PM

Realized a little mistake for this entry.



It should be "the woman he loves", and not "the woman she loves".

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#325520: Oct 2nd 2022 at 2:00:36 PM

Has anyone ever proposed the Heart of Ender from Minecraft Dungeons? It seems that the prequel novel and the game shows that the Heart of Ender isnt a Generic Doomsday Villain

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#325521: Oct 2nd 2022 at 2:10:04 PM

He never has been proposed. Though make sure to actually read the novel before you do a proposal.

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#325522: Oct 2nd 2022 at 2:28:02 PM

Recently, I was wondering if anyone in Challenge of the GoBots would qualify. The first potential candidate that came to mind was the "Evil One" from "In Search of Ancient GoBonauts" but after re-watching the episode, I don't think he qualifies because he has too much Offstage Villainy. I did however find another potential candidate from the same episode.

What is the Work

Challenge of the GoBots is.... well, you know what Gobots are. It's that "dollar store" version of Transformers from the 1980s featuring two robot factions from the planet Gobotron fighting eachother: the Guardians (the good guys) and the Renegades (the bad guys).

However, during the 1990s, Tonka would be bought up by Hasbro and Gobots would be retroactively considered to be a part of the Transformers franchise and all Gobots-related media takes place in the "Gargent cluster" section of the fictional Transformers multiverse.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

Doctor Cunningham is an archeologist who worked for UNECOM and is secretly an undercover Renegade spy. While excavating an ancient pyramid, Cunningham found a spaceship which led to the discovery of the Dark Heart, an antimatter weapon created by the "Evil One" that nearly destroyed Gobotron thousands of years ago. After Scooter, Nick and AJ helped him find the Dark Heart, Cunningham revealed his true intentions and gave it to Cy-Kill so he can destroy the Guardians. However, Leader-1 managed to talk Cy-Kill out of using it, as the Dark Heart had the potential to rip a hole through the time-space continuum and destroy the entire universe. Cunningham then stole the Dark Heart for himself so he can become "the loon that's going to bring the world to an end".

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

It's never revealed why he's an Omnicidal Maniac so there is no Freudian Excuse as far as I can see. He also betrayed Cy-Kill at the end so that diminishes any genuine loyalty as a mitigating factor. Also, "the loon that's going to bring the world to an end" is not meant to be played for laughs. It just sounds kinda silly out of context.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Despite being a one-time villain who is merely a regular human, he easily committed the biggest Moral Event Horizon in the entire series. The closest thing to competition that he has is the main villain Cy-kill but his worst crimes tend to be attempting to destroy Earth and/or Gobotron so like, I don't recall him ever doing anything on this scale.

Final Verdict?

I think I found a [tup].

Edited by CookieMonster69 on Oct 2nd 2022 at 2:36:29 AM

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#325525: Oct 2nd 2022 at 3:47:50 PM

[tup] to Doctor Cunningham.

@WetFlannels: Thank you.


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