During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.
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- Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
- A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
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It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
Father Noah, Mizusaki, Ivan, Lew, Nui, Yuri.
Have one more from Advance Wars: My personal favorite villain there: Sturm, or "Herr Bose" in Japanese.
Who is Sturm?
The master of Black Hole and introduced at the end of the first game, Sturm is a mysterious man implied to come from another world who wears an iron mask and dresses like a bonafide goosestepper....Sturm creates a clone of hero Andy and uses him to launch attacks on other nations, which sparks a gigantic and devastating war so Sturm can weaken the nations and steamroll them for takeover. With Sturm facing the heroes, Andy and Sonja, he's defeated and withdraws, but treats this pretty casually, noting he'll return.
Sure enough he does, in Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising. Sturm attempts a full on invasion with Black Hole to obliterate and brutalize the nations into compliance. The entire game is spent driving Black Hole back and launching a strike on Sturm, who's been busy crafting new super-weapons. Sturm? Intends, if they press him, to launch a full on apocalypse, blowing up half of Wars World...
Sturm fully intends to trigger his Death Ray, remarking if he can't have the world, he'll just see it burn....when that's done, Sturm attempts to self destruct his base for spite, killing himself, all the Allie Nations' forces and even his own...as he prepares for that, though?
Hawk, sick of Sturm's depravities and utter disregard for his men? Pulls a coup on the spite and kills Sturm, who can only gasp in shock and whisper "You...trai...tor..." before succumbing to death.
Mitigating issues?
Sturm is responsible for two gigantic wars, trying to conquer the world and when defeated, he tries to just blow the world up, before a self destruct to take everything with him. What, you think a guy like this might have some good qualities? Surely, my friends, you jest. No, let's dispense with the notion immediately: there is nothing good about Sturm.
He's a heartless conqueror out to take the world, with massive death tolls. The Death ray is well over the heinous standard for the franchise and he's also a painfully unfair opponent with massive AI advantage.
Conclusion?
An easy yea.
Yes to Sturm. Basic keep, simple keep, easy keep, clear keep.
I guess the tree will look like this?
- Advance Wars series:
- First game & Black Hole Rising: Sturm
- Days of Ruin:
- Caulder
- Admiral Greyfield
- Beast
- Dual Strike:
- Von Bolt
Edited by ACW on Sep 12th 2021 at 9:14:20 AM
- Halloween reformat
- King Kong (we can always use Image Pickin' later if necessary)
- Godzilla vs. Kong: The Official Movie Novelization, by Greg Keyes: Walter Simmons, CEO of Apex Cybernetics, is notably worse than his film counterpart. When Godzilla was first revealed to the world, Simmons, aggravated that humanity wasn't the dominant species on Earth, sought to take that title back, with his corporate empire on top. It's revealed he was the one who created the Oxygen Destroyer in an attempt to kill Godzilla. Simmons bribed his way out of accountability for the resulting disaster, and when Sara Hayes tries to reveal Apex's involvement, Simmons had her assassinated. Simmons masterminds the creation of Mechagodzilla, intending to use it to kill and usurp Godzilla as Alpha, killing the Titans they can't enslave, testing it by having it slaughter Skullcrawlers that Apex are breeding. When the test for Mechagodzilla's signal results in Godzilla going on a rampage in Pensacola, Simmons sees this as a stepping stone to turn the world against Godzilla. Simmons then deliberately engineers Godzilla's rampage in Hong Kong, putting millions of innocents on Godzilla's warpath. During Godzilla's rampage, Simmons looks on in excitement, admitting he's counting on Godzilla destroying much of the city so that Apex can be "saviors" when they set Mechagodzilla loose.
- Michael Myers, as always, is the epitome of evil. After murdering his older sister at the age of six, Michael was sent to a mental institution where he tortured and murdered everyone unfortunate enough to cross his path, including boiling a fellow child to death because they took some of his birthday cake. Following the events of the second film, Michael begins stalking Tommy Doyle, once again sadistically tormenting and killing everyone he sees along the way, including decapitating someone and throwing it at their friend just to traumatize them. Even after Laurie kills him, Michael has tormented her so much that she undergoes a psychotic break and begins killing in his method, her mind long since broken from his actions.
- "The Yam is Mightier Than the Sword": Sherlock and Al Camone intend to start a war so they can profit. After attacking the Lupin gang with tanks, they hire Fujiko Mine to steal Zantetsuken from Goemon, attaching it to one of their drones to maximize its potential. To start their war, Camone uses the drone to destroy several military bases on both sides of the conflict, with both sides quickly blaming the other and leaving them both flocking to Sherlock's company for extra weapons. Fully intending to continue this pattern until they bleed both countries dry of resources, the two of them gleefully continue using the drone to destroy as much as they possibly can until they're finally defeated.
- Blue Reflection Ray: Shino Mizusaki's mother was the leader of the Saint Inés Religion and abusive to both Shino and her twin sister Kano. She used them as the figurehead of her movement to eliminate the weak people of society—the sick, poor, elderly, and uneducated. However, she forced Kano to be Shino, denying her a sense of self and beating her whenever she acknowledged herself as an individual. Whenever Shino made a mistake, she would beat Kano in her place, saying that her mistakes are why her sister is suffering. Eventually, this culminated in her performing a ritual to make Shino a true god by draining Kano's blood and force-feeding it to Shino. Her actions are in part what led to Shino's current misanthropy.
- My Dearest Self with Malice Aforethought, by Hajime Inoryu & Shota Ito: Sai Yashiro is the leader of Skall, a criminal gang that administrates a dating site that is actually a prostitution ring that forces young woman into service by threatening to leak their nudes. Sai is also an admirer of the mysterious Serial Killer LL, naming Skall for the latter's phrase "I Shall Kill Again". When protagonist Eiji steals a large sum of money, Sai threatens a suspicious member and allows a dog to bite his genitals, killing him in the act. Eventually discovering Eiji's betrayal, Sai threatens Eiji's best friend by frying living animals in his workplace and kidnaps Eiji's girlfriend to lure him to a forest, where Sai ties Eiji to a boat and forcefully feeds him with sweets to make the insects devour his insides, mentioning that this isn't his first time using that method of execution. Sai is also revealed to be the murderer of Youko Hatanaka, copying LL's history of murdering sex workers.
- The Senior Partners, originally known as the Wolf, the Ram, and the Hart, were three demons who envisioned a way to become the strongest of their kind: by corrupting institutions and fomenting evil within the hearts of man and other races. Establishing Wolfram & Hart across multiple worlds, the trio cause murder, oppression, war, and genocide to feed themselves, with their servitors doing all they can to proliferate evil in all its forms. Attempting to corrupt Angel himself, the Senior Partners plunge LA into hell and force the spirit of Angel's friend Wesley to aid them, torturing him if he refuses. Intent on eventually turning the Apocalypse to their own ends, the Senior Partners stand as a dark contrast to the Powers That Be.
- Oz, written by Christopher Golden: Muztag is a demon Black Market trader who endeavors to control the entire Asian market. After previously being defeated by Master Shantou, Muztag gathered an army and stormed his monastery, killing or mystically enslaving everyone there except for him, just to spite his enemy. With Shantou crippled, Muztag begins rampaging across the countryside, destroying at least two villages within days and killing dozens of people in each one. After killing a prisoner who refuses to be enslaved by him, Muztag captures Shantou, intending to have him executed by one of his former students out of a sadistic sense of irony.
- Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast: The Beast, servant of the Unmaker, rules over a hellish underworld powered as an engine of eternal suffering, with countless souls in all manner of agonies to fuel his power. The Beast stirs corruption and chaos among humanity to steer them all to their ultimate damnation and binds Eddie, the spirit of humanity's freedom, to a tree after hacking his soul in four. The Beast once tricked the sorcerer John Dee into summoning him into the world, murdering John Dee's sister in the process. The Beast is all too gleeful to mock John Dee about this in the present and pledges he'll eviscerate John Dee and make him watch as the Beast kills everyone he loves. In the sequel, Night City, the Beast summons demons upon the whole of humanity and floods Earth with demonic carnage, basking in the death of millions and attempting to drag the entire world into destruction.
- Granny Goodness, the chief of Darkseid's training camps, is a twisted New God who runs the "Orphanage". Children are taken, tortured, and conditioned until loyal to Darkseid and Granny, while abused horribly should they resist and implicitly disposed of if they fail. Only Scott Free, son of the Highfather and foster child of Darkseid, ever escaped. Vengeful towards Scott, Granny has attempted multiple times to lure him into a situation where he would die with entire cities. To further Darkseid's aims of conquest, Granny attempts to craft a new operation on Earth and even crafts a doom magnet to see a comet wipe out the entire Earth.
- Disney Chills' Fiends on the Other Side: Dr. Facilier was once a benevolent man who used his powers for good until he craved more power. After betraying his order and disfiguring Deseroux's face with dark magic, Facilier tries to manipulate her grandson Jamal into giving him her necklace, later sending shadow monsters and enchanted alligators to tear him apart when he refused. Cursing Jamal's twin brother Malik into the shadows, Facilier causes more damage to befall New Orleans by amplifying the hurricane, all to force Jamal to relent. Despite Jamal giving him the necklace, Facilier transforms him into a shadow and gleefully condemns them to painfully fade from existence while he took over.
- A Classic Horror Story: "Fabrizio" fakes the backstory of a cruel cult to lure in victims, while in fact setting everything up to craft a Snuff Film so he can "direct" it and prove his artistic genius. Fabrizio has his victims tortured, mutilated, and eventually killed, with many lured into the plot so they may be killed on camera, Fabrizio bragging about his genius and how successful his movie will be.
- Demonic (2021): The nameless demon is an avian-like monstrosity with a penchant for [[{{Pyromaniac]} arson]]. Having possessed a woman named Angela, the demon gradually drives her to insanity, where she poisons people at a church and burns 21 people alive. Several years later, after Angela enters a coma, the demon sets its sights on Angela's daughter, Carly, next. After luring Carly and her friends Martin and Sam to a secret facility in the woods, the demon possesses one of the priests during an exorcism and kills all of the priests' allies while in the new host. It later burns Sam to death and kidnaps Martin, using him as bait to draw out Carly so it can possess her and continue its killing spree.
- The Man from Nowhere:
- Original film:
- Jong-seok is the younger brother, and junior partner, of drug dealer Man-seok. While the latter cares about the former's well-being, Jong-seok only cares about having as good a time as possible. He's physically abusive to the women he sleeps with; tortures Jeon So-mi's mother by burning her with a blow dryer—then kidnaps So-mi for their organ harvesting operation—tortures her mother's boyfriend by beating him and threatening to burn off his testicles; and sends Ramrowan to sadistically murder their former boss, Mr. Oh. When a little girl involved in their drug operation passes out, Jong-seok has her dragged off so her organs can be harvested and sold. Jong-seok even uses his last moments alive to brag to Cha Tae-sik about how he has failed So-mi as badly as the Seok brothers have.
- Oh Sang-man, aka "500", is the Seok brothers' wicked surgeon in their organ trafficking business. Having chosen his moniker to reflect his number of intended victims, 500 cuts up countless men, women, and even children for the Seoks, mocking one little girl for having killed her mother before planning to operate on her as well.
- Rocky Handsome (2016 Bollywood remake):
- Kevin and Luke Ferriera are a pair of ruthless drug dealers who usurp control of the operation from their boss by leaving him to be killed by the hero Kabir, aka Rocky Handsome. Luke and Kevin, finding that a woman named Anna has stolen their drugs, kidnap and torture Anna's young daughter Naomi, before murdering her to feed their other trade, organ harvesting. The two use child slaves for their drugs before harvesting them and other innocent people to make money on the black market, attempting to harvest little Naomi. Even when Luke is captured and executed by Kabir, Kevin displays little interest or care, simply ordering Naomi's death to be expedited.
- The Ferriera brothers' surgeon cuts up still living people for their organ trafficking operation. When the young girl Naomi asks what became of her mother he killed, the surgeon mockingly says she's "with God" before trying to cut out the girl's eyes.
- Original film:
- Message from Space: Emperor Rockseia XXII is a tyrant who grew to lead the Gavanas Empire after overthrowing the rightful rulers. Leading the Gavanas on a campaign of conquest, Rockseia ensures that any world that resists is all but annihilated by his forces. After having destroyed the latest, Rockseia attempts to conquer Earth and destroys the moon to show how serious he is, with a threat to do the same to Earth should they resist.
- No Dead Heroes: General Ivan Dimanovitch is introduced at a Viet Cong base, taking pleasure in tormenting captured American and South Vietnamese captives, gleefully abusing prisoners, beating captives to death with his bare hands, and ripping out an American POW's fingernails with pliers. After the botched POW rescue mission where Ivan captured William Sanders's best friend Harry Cotter, Ivan later had Harry converted into his personal killing machine via microchip in the brain, whose effectiveness Ivan executes firstly by sending Harry back to America to execute his entire family, and later on controlling Harry into firing an Uzi in a church full of people, slaughtering everyone. Using Harry as a pawn for covert assassination assignments, Ivan intends to frame the CIA for the murders while overthrowing entire governments for him to reshape the world in his own image, and when William gets captured trying to stop Ivan, Ivan had William's Love Interest Barbara subjected to being raped while William is forced to listen.
- Pull (aka Pulled to Hell) (2019): The unnamed killer is a demon who butchers humans for other demons. He kidnaps, tortures, and kills his victims in a variety of sadistic ways, with his favorite being to impale them through the stomach with a chain and use it to pull them into a pit where they're eaten by his demonic pets. Angered by Brooke's defiance, the killer forces her to watch as he impales her friend on a hot camping fork and pulls a chain through her stomach, all while she's still alive. He mocks Mickey by throwing her the severed head of her friend Charles, who he previously fed to his demonic pets. When Lisa threatens to burn his pets if he doesn't stop, the killer instead laughs in her face and tries to slowly kill her friend Kyle to death in front of her. The killer has slaughtered more people than all the other monsters and murderers Mickey's group has faced combined.
- Spontaneous Combustion: Lewis "Lew" Orlander is the head of a new nuclear power plant and the benefactor of the radiation vaccine experiments from 1955. Paying test subject Brian Bell to have sex with his wife Peggy so that they can birth a child, Lew made sure the vaccine lasted for nine months so that the baby, Sam, will be born with the ability to cause people to spontaneously combust. With plans to turn Sam into a living nuclear weapon, which results in the death of his parents, Lew was also responsible for the birth of Lisa Wilcox, using her to manipulate Sam into following his orders, while sending Dr. Marsh out to kill those in his way. When Sam goes on a fiery murderous rampage that kills many innocents, Lew can only bask in how extraordinary his abilities are, as he plans to make more like Sam.
- The Wesley's Mysterious File (2002): "Kill" and "Rape" are two parasitic alien assassins intending to wipe out the entire population of the Dark Blue Planet, including refugees and non-combatants. Responsible for untold thousands of deaths across the universe centuries before the movie's events, Kill and Rape, tracking one of the peaceful aliens, Fong Tin-ai, to Earth, then land in the Mohave Desert, assimilating two policemen by dehydrating their bodies alive to infiltrate human society. Locating Fong Tin-ai in a government facility in San Francisco, Kill and Rape massacres the personnel, culminating in the facility's self-destruction. When Fong Tin-ai and Wesley escaped to Hong Kong, Kill and Rape followed them across the world, manipulating Fong Tin-ai's long-lost brother, Tan, into setting up his sister for a meeting in an industrial plant, only to betray Tan after he's no longer of any use, with Kill impaling Tan In the Back via tentacles while Rape intends to do the same to Fong Tin-ai. It's also revealed that during the rendezvous, Kill and Rape had slaughtered and assimilated all the workers in the plant, planning to use Hong Kong a base for their invasion.
- Vance Wingfield, debuting in "Operation: Wingfield", is a military tactician obsessed with the idea of survival of the fittest above all else. Believing that a large portion of humanity has become weak, Wingfield sets out to cull mankind, planning to frame America for dropping a nuclear bomb on Russia, then ride out the ensuing World War III so he can rule over whatever ashes are left. Wingfield forcibly subjects his future army—including children—to Training from Hell, and eventually tries to kill himself, his followers, and their entire families to ensure a nuclear holocaust starts. Surviving this event, a crippled Wingfield goes on to use a Computer Virus to drop satellites onto Chicago and Silicon Valley, killing thousands of men, women, and children, planning to continue to wipe out more cities. Even after death, Wingfield's abused, corrupted son Tyler tried to kill millions in his father's name, ironically unaware that Wingfield loathed the boy and had tried to kill him for being "weak".
- Cobra Commander is a self-serving sociopath masquerading as a well-intentioned revolutionary. As the leader of the terrorist group Cobra, the Commander is a power-hungry madman obsessed with bringing America to its knees, and kicks the story off by blowing up the Golden Gate Bridge and the many civilians on it. The Commander's ultimate plan is to drop the Omega Black virus onto a highly-populated city, which will horrifically melt millions of innocent people, at which point he will blackmail other cities to cow to his whims. When his plans are thwarted, the Commander attempts to simply launch as many nukes as possible as he makes his retreat. Despite his supposedly benevolent attitude toward his minions, the Commander shows his true colors as he ruthlessly executes anyone who fails him, even animals, and goes on a murder spree of his own soldiers for the slightest of reasons, showing himself to be just a petty, raging bully given power.
- Horrorstör: Warden Josiah Worth lord of the Cuyahoga Panopticon in life and in death, believed wholeheartedly and terrifyingly that labor sets the souls of men free. Worth was responsible for a series of animal tortures against the 318 inmates of the Panopticon—aka the "Beehive"—that disgusted even contemporary officials, favoring particularly tortuously grueling work patterns like penal treadmills and crank machines. When one man was unable to turn the crank any longer due to the rotting state the cranks had left his hands in, Worth "treated" him by cutting off his thumbs and returning him to work. Worth murdered all of his prisoners when his prison was closed, and returns in undeath to haunt the IKEA ripoff of the setting—built atop the remains of the Panopticon—dragging the innocent employees who investigate into the unending nightmare he plans on subjecting the souls of his prisoners to.
- Silver Surfer: The Animated Series:
- "The Planet of Dr. Moreau": The Kree Overseers are part of a combined intelligence, where their brains were placed into a computer and they were given dominion of a planet named Morovus. The Master of Zenn-La was put into the combined intelligence and forced by the Overseers to participate in their evil acts. The Overseers rule over a group of Trolls, beings the Kree created to be their slaves, using slave collars to control them and inflicting pain on them if they disobey. When the Silver Surfer confronts the Overseers for their treatment of the Trolls, the Overseers dismiss the Surfer's arguments, comparing the Trolls to objects. The Overseers believe the Surfer polluted the minds of the Trolls with the hopes of freedom and the Overseers send an energy beam to destroy the Trolls on Morovus.
- "Second Foundation": Prime Minister Kiar and Admiral Zedrao are the military leaders of the Skrull Empire. Due to their failure to defeat the Kree Empire, the Skrull Hive Queen was going to remove them from power, so they kill the Queen instead, dooming the Skrull race to eventual extinction. They pretend the Queen is still alive and take total power for themselves. When Kiar and Zedrao discover there is a royal egg containing a new Queen on the planet Skrullos, they plan to raise the queen themselves and have the queen establish a ruling line where their direct decedents will control the Empire through the puppet Hive Queen. When Kiar and Zedrao capture Nova, the current Herald of Galactus, they plan to force her to summon Galactus to the worlds of the Kree, so that they can win the war by destroying the Kree race.
- Spider-Man Unlimited:
- Sir Ram is a Bestial and the cruelest of the High Evolutionary's servants on Counter-Earth. A scientist who views humans as inferior, a decade ago Sir Ram experimented on a child named Git Hoskins, leaving him an emotionally scarred freak as an adult. Sir Ram later kidnaps several other humans, planning to perform similar gruesome experiments on them. When a Machine Man, X-51, defies the High Evolutionary, Sir Ram plans to experiment on it too, despite it being sapient, and later tries to use a device to try to force X-51 to kill several human rebels. When Sir Ram captures Spider-Man, he subjects him to painful experiments designed to make him into a mind-controlled puppet. In the finale, Sir Ram helps the High Evolutionary destroy the human race on Counter-Earth, by first destroying human neighborhoods and not caring whether the humans flee in time, and taking sadistic delight when the High Evolutionary tries to destroy humanity with a sonic weapon, with his associate Lord Tyger being disgusted by Sir Ram's cruelty.
- Vol 2 #5 tie-in comic: the Chameleon is a monstrous Bestial capable of changing his appearance to those he has murdered. To use this to his advantage, Chameleon systematically stalks and murders over a dozen innocent people, then uses their identities to commit crimes. After being stopped by Spider-Man during a bank robbery that nearly leaves several people dead, Chameleon boasts his plans to ruin Spider-Man's name and crush the hope of his people by framing Spider-Man for the killings. Even in a world of dictators and monstrous symbiotes, the Chameleon stood out as a vile Serial Killer who disgusted Spider-Man more than any other villain he encountered.
- Fantastic Four: War Zone by Greg Cox: Annihilus is a paranoid psychopath from the Negative Zone, who views all life as a threat to himself and plans to destroy all living things. Annihilus attacks a planet and only relents when the planet's government offers him brilliant scientists to work for him. Annihilus spares the planet, but destroys its industrial base, forcing its inhabitants to live like cave people. Annihilus takes a scientist named Samra Qury and imprisons her family in a nightmarish prison where prisoners are starved and tortured, and threatens to kill them if she does not help him. Annihilus makes Samra create a portal to the positive universe. Annihilus makes a temporary alliance with Blastaar, ruler of the Baluurian Empire, where he will use the portal to go to Earth and open Reed Richards's portal and allow Blastaar's forces to invade Earth. After Blastaar subdues Earth, Annihilus plans to destroy Blastaar and his forces, kill off humanity, and start killing every living thing in the positive universe.
- Akuji the Heartless: Baron Samedi is the game's true villain responsible for Akuji's predicament. Having ambitions to conquer the underworld and the realm of mortals, Samedi possessed his worshipper, Akuji's brother Orad, and controls Orad into killing Akuji on his wedding night, before tricking Akuji's soul into becoming his Unwitting Pawn. Manipulating Akuji into killing the various guardians of hell and collecting the souls of ancestors for the Baron to consume, once Akuji had finished his task, the Baron "rewards" Akuji by striking him down, and proceeds to lay waste to the underworld. As Akuji attempts to prevent the Baron from escaping into the human world, Baron Samedi reveals he had abducted Akuji's bride, Kesho, and will make Kesho watch Akuji die before forcing Kesho to be his slave after he had wiped out all mortals.
- Immortals Fenyx Rising:
- Typhon is the father of monsters who was sealed away by Zeus for attempting to overthrow him and the Olympians and rule over the cosmos. Upon being freed, Typhon goes on a rampage, murdering numerous gods and causing storms which result in more casualties, while subjecting those he can't kill to unsavory fates. Having his monsters wreak havoc on the Golden Isle, Typhon has corrupted many soldiers into becoming disposable weapons to enforce his rule, with four legendary Greek heroes being the most prominent examples. Typhon would then have Ligyron retrieve ingredients to make a poison that he'll use to kill off all the gods before he enacts on his plan to merge the mortal realm with Tartarus to create a new world in his own image. He would later betray Ligyron before attempting to eat him in front of his sibling. While claiming the gods are flawed, Typhon's refusal to see flaws within himself made him worse, willing to destroy everything and everyone to bring about his twisted idea of perfection.
- Myths of the Eastern Realm DLC: Tao Wu, "The Harbinger", is one of the Four Perils who turned against Heaven. Tao Wu would orchestrate the events that would create The Scar by massacring Gong Gong's people, before manipulating him to shatter the highest mountain of the Eastern Realm. This causes the cataclysmic event that has turned humans into clay; unleashed monsters to run amok in the mortal realm; and brings Heaven into ruins, while it slowly destroys both worlds. When Tao Wu learns of Nuwa trying to seal the Scar away, he revives Ku, using him to lure Nuwa and Gong Gong to his domain before trapping the heroes, mocking them for unknowingly helping him unleash The Scar before trying to kill them and let the world be reduced to chaos.
- Psychonauts 2: Gristol Malik, Gzesarevich of Gulovia, is the true identity of Nick Johnsmith and is The Mole within the Psychonauts. As a child, Gristol enjoyed his decadent lifestyle and had zero concern for the suffering of his countrymen at the hands of Maligula. When his family was forced to flee and Maligula was seemingly killed by the Psychonauts, Gristol grew to hate his father and the Psychonauts, blaming them for his fall from power despite still living in luxury. Learning that Maligula was still alive, Gristol began concocting a scheme to regain his lost power. Having Dr. Loboto kidnap Truman Zanotto, Gristol put his brain inside of Truman's body, while also severely conditioning Loboto so he would be too scared to expose Gristol. Gristol then manipulated events within the Psychonauts, and when they attempted to seal Maligula away within Lucrecia Mux's mind, Gristol sabotaged the process, unleashing the unstable Maligula while intending to use her destructive power to conquer Grulovia and regain the power he feels entitled to.
- Honsou of the Iron Warriors is the eventual Warsmith of his band once he assists in the theft of Imperial Fist geneseeds. A cold, practical, and cruel Chaos Marine, Honsou establishes the Daemonculaba; taking human women to use as agonized "wombs" to insert humans into and mutate them into Chaos Marines, with the "unfleshed" failures discarded. When the process is disrupted by the Ultramarines, a spiteful Honsou uses a virus bomb to annihilate one of their worlds and leads an attempt to annihilate the entire sector of Ultramar in retribution.
- Jack Slash is a psychopath obsessed with being remembered as one of the most wicked people to have ever lived. The leader of the Slaughterhouse Nine, Jack tortures and murders the loved ones of the Nine to corrupt and break them into his malleable pawns, and uses them to rampage across the world. Regularly wiping out thousands of people just for fun, Jack at one point targets a hospital and murders not only all of the staff and sickly patients, but the entire maternity ward as well, later threatening a hero's baby sister to keep him in line. Jack plans to use a superpowered army to bring mass murder upon the whole Earth, and uses one minion's specialty powers to subject victims to truly horrific fates. Even when beaten, Jack manipulates Scion into killing billions of people across the multiverse as a final act of villainy. Jack was the most purely evil being Taylor Hebert ever faced, a sadist who prided himself on his personal kill count of hundreds and who was happy to doom the multiverse just to satisfy his raging ego.
For Honsou. Womb Horror is probably a better choice of pothole.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Okay, mistake on the Pulled to Hell killer's entry:
When Lisa threatens to burn his pets if he doesn't stop, the killer instead laughs in her face and tries to slowly kill her friend Kyle to death in front of her.
Yeah, 'kill someone to death' was a typo. It should be:
When Lisa threatens to burn his pets if he doesn't stop, the killer instead laughs in her face and tries to slowly stab her friend Kyle to death in front of her.
Sorry.
@ Rayn Force 58: No ones reserved it nor has mentioned Scarlet Nexus until you did So you’re free to EP whosever is in that game if you want
My sandbox of EPs and other stuffYes to Nazi.
What's the work?
Akito the Exiled is an OVA series in the Code Geass franchise following a story set between the first and second focusing on conflict between Britannia and the European Union, specifically a program using young Japanese soldiers to bolster the EU's ranks and form a strike team. Akito Hyuga himself works under Leila Malcal, burdened by her part in the Child Soldier program. While many within the EU are racist assholes it's the seeming Big Good who stands out for cruelty.
Who is General Smilas? What has he done?
Seemingly a Cool Old Guy amongst the mostly racist ranks of the EU, Gene Smilas supports the advances and unconventional tactics of Leila and her strike team organization. Helping her career, Smilas in reality just wants to stage a coup to become Emperor of the EU and allows for the operation using the children to fester, even as other commanders do things like strap explosives to their Knightmares for suicide attacks. Playing to Leila's emotions, he claims to agree with her dead father's philosophies to spin her on his vision for a dictatorship ruling the EU.
In actuality, he cares nothing for Leila and hopes to surge her popularity only to have her die as a Joan of Arc-like figure to consolidate power and popularity so he make take control. While plotting his move the EU is beset by a terrorist attack planned by Lelouch and the personification of mankind's collective will—the Caretaker of Spacetime—confronts and threatens him lest he agree to kill Shin for them, agreeing out of fear for his own life. Secretly having made a deal with Britannia who have been using media manipulation to gaslight the faction into near collapse Smilas then has Leila give an impassioned speech before using his own feed to announce her death, intending to cast out all levels of government to insert himself as a sovereign ruler.
Having signed off on a plan with Shin himself knowing the media panic would risk societal collapse so he could wedge his way in as ruler would come with the benefit as his partner wishes to destroy the Britannian capital to rule the faction himself, something that Smilas cares nothing for. Anyways the two... never come to blows in an arc that I guess got scrapped. Moving on he starts sending out his forces to crush any opposition and rule unquestioned. As he rides forth for conquest with legions of brainwashed soldiers he's confronted once more by the Caretaker who teleports a Britannian captain atop his cruiser. Once again she calls him out for being a coward who cares for no cause but himself and mockingly tells him she wish he'd have lived long enough to better himself before a Knightmare's bladed weapon cuts him to pieces.
Heinousness?
Luciano Bradley is a delight himself as a racist, sadistic mass murderer, attempted rapist and team-killer but Smilas is occupying a different niche. He's a military commander who's used a facade of good publicity to mask treason, inciting mass panic, a deadly False Flag Operation and militaristic enforcement of a dictatorship. There are those like Charles and Schniezel but Smilas lacks the pull of advanced super weapons or Britannia and the power of Geass. For a single General, what he does to his own country to climb to power and that's not even getting into what he's helping Shin do to Britannia.
Mitigating factors?
He paints himself as a noble, just man with aspirations to free his people from a corrupt capitalist system and show them Democracy Is Flawed... there's nothing real to his rhetoric even though he's near perfect in hiding the Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist that lies beneath his words. This is shown both implicitly in his treatment of Leila after praising her father and explicitly when the personification of humanity's will/in universe God tells him he only cares about himself and his only retort is a weak rebuttal that he isn't technically a sadist.
On the surface the guy actually holds it but the show makes it clear just how hollow he is.
Verdict?
Room for debate for sure but I'd argue he passes.
Edited by 43110 on Sep 12th 2021 at 11:01:51 AM

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