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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

therealjackieboy Ultimate Moral Compass from Austin, TX Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Ultimate Moral Compass
#257127: Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:33:27 AM

[tup] Wu. Congrats on finally getting another keeper who actually receives their comeuppance, Tyk.

"No running in the halls!"
Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
ANewMan A total has-been. Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A total has-been.
#257131: Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:50:15 AM

[tup] Wu, [tup] Zabbo, [tup] Dracula, and [tup] Snyder Cut!Darkseid.

Edited by ANewMan on Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:51:03 AM

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#257134: Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:54:07 AM

WTF. Why is it now boss baby?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#257136: Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:56:54 AM

How...? What...? Why is it now the Boss Baby.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 22nd 2021 at 11:57:19 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#257137: Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:58:01 AM

I'm almost tempted to say leave it: I even love the caption with it [lol]

DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#257140: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:00:48 AM

Sandbox.Monster Marvel Animation. I think ~Tropers/ACW may have chosen an image which had a link which overlapped with another image.

Rawr.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#257141: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:01:57 AM

I don't think the image was changed (at least, the Sandbox doesn't show such a thing), it's just that somebody uploaded the image that shared the same file name, so it automatically replaced what was there. I think.

Tyk5919 Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Your friendly neighborhood stank goblin
#257142: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:02:26 AM

[up] That or someone hacked it somehow.

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#257143: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:03:09 AM

Thats really weird.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#257144: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:06:49 AM

What was the image, anyways? Should we change it?

Rawr.
Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
#257145: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:07:00 AM

That shouldn't be possible though I have had cases where I have uploaded images with the same name and it just added a number at the end.

Edited by Ordeaux26 on Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:07:13 AM

CM Sandboxes, MB Sandboxes
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#257146: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:07:55 AM

Ultron killing the avengers. Check the image pickin link. Is it still intact their?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#257148: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:10:03 AM

Is it back to normal? It's still Ultron killing the Avengers for me.

If it's back, please tell me someone screenshotted it and can send it to me, cause I need to see this shit

[down][down] Dude please screenshot that and PM it to me, I gotta see this

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Apr 22nd 2021 at 1:12:55 PM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#257149: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:11:49 AM

Dafuq? [lol]

That's weird, funny...and a bit annoying, given the work I did to get that image formatted.

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#257150: Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:12:05 AM

It still shows up as the boss baby to me...

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

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