During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.
Specific issues include:
- Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
- A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
- Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
- Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
- Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.
It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.
Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:
Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.
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What is the Work
Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.
Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?
This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.
Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?
Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.
Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?
Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard
Final Verdict?
Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
Wu. Congrats on finally getting another keeper who actually receives their comeuppance, Tyk.
"No running in the halls!"Wu.
Why so serious?to Wu
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?Wu, Zabbo, Dracula, and Snyder Cut!Darkseid.
Edited by ANewMan on Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:51:03 AM
Wu??????
Yes.
Something is wrong with the Marvel Animation image.
CM Sandboxes, MB SandboxesWTF. Why is it now boss baby?
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."I have no idea.
CM Sandboxes, MB SandboxesHow...? What...? Why is it now the Boss Baby.
Edited by Bullman on Apr 22nd 2021 at 11:57:19 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadI'm almost tempted to say leave it: I even love the caption with it
to Wu.
Out of curiosity, what was the caption?
Edited by DoodSlayer136 on Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:59:30 AM
NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONEI'm fucking dying.
Sandbox.Monster Marvel Animation. I think ~Tropers/ACW may have chosen an image which had a link which overlapped with another image.
Rawr.I don't think the image was changed (at least, the Sandbox doesn't show such a thing), it's just that somebody uploaded the image that shared the same file name, so it automatically replaced what was there. I think.
That or someone hacked it somehow.
I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.Thats really weird.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."What was the image, anyways? Should we change it?
Rawr.That shouldn't be possible though I have had cases where I have uploaded images with the same name and it just added a number at the end.
Edited by Ordeaux26 on Apr 22nd 2021 at 10:07:13 AM
CM Sandboxes, MB SandboxesUltron killing the avengers. Check the image pickin link. Is it still intact their?
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Is it back to normal? It's still Ultron killing the Avengers for me.
If it's back, please tell me someone screenshotted it and can send it to me, cause I need to see this shit
Dude please screenshot that and PM it to me, I gotta see this
Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Apr 22nd 2021 at 1:12:55 PM
Dafuq?
That's weird, funny...and a bit annoying, given the work I did to get that image formatted.
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM DraftsIt still shows up as the boss baby to me...
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Yes to Wu