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Alright, definite yes to her then. Wonder if she'll get her Karma Houdini Warranty like Ghetsis did...

Who knows? Hasnt it been years since Agatha appeared in the manga.

^ She's currently hanging with Sird in Kusaka's Aborted Arc folder.

This is now how it should look on both the manga's YMMV pager and the Monster/Pokemon page.

• Yellow Chapter: Agatha of the Kanto Elite Four was the brains behind the group's operations and it's one truly vile member. Desiring to settle a petty grudge against Samuel Oak and prove that only the truly strong trainers can spearhead the future of Pokémon, Agatha coaxed Lorelei into becoming her protégé by playing on her trauma, spurred Lance's desire to Kill All Humans, and Mind Controlled the honorable Bruno into being Brainwashed and Crazy. She was also particularly sadistic in her methods such as nearly killing her own pawns, threatening the life of an innocent Tagalong Kid accompanying Blue, trying to drain the life from Blue and Koga, and mentally enslaving armies of Pokémon into being living weapons for terrorist attacks on cities. Unlike her comrades, Agatha's motives are entirely self-centered and she never plays fair in a fight, being ultimately an unrepentant Misanthrope Supreme who even spends her last moment gloating about how the Elite Four's genocidal vision is soon to be realized.
• Black/White and Black 2/White 2 Chapters: Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius, the leader of Team Plasma, poses as a kindly and benevolent individual seeking Pokémon freedom from trainers, but is in truth a habitually sadistic, narcissistic, self-serving sociopath who plans to disarm trainers and exploit Pokémon so that he can conquer the world. Viewing his son N only as a usable and ultimately disposable "decoration" for his plan, Ghetsis raised N in an isolated environment and groomed him to be the hero of legend, and possibly used hypnosis on N like he did others, violating their minds and making them release their Pokémon companions. On his orders, Team Plasma launches several attacks, endangering humans and Pokémon alike. When battling Black, Ghetsis attempts to have the boy and all his Pokémon burned alive by flames, and then has them sealed inside the Light Stone. Two years later, Ghetsis captures Kyurem and forces its power into a destructive Freeze Ray to decimate many cities, freezing populated areas solid. Ghetsis attempts to raise Kyurem's power so he could put the entire continent on ice, and attempts to kill all opposition, even his own son, to the point where he self-destructs the Plasma Frigate to end his own life and the lives of everyone on board, including thousands of Pokémon. When N tries to save his life, Ghetsis is infuriated and violently rejects his effort, savagely beating N with his cane in a raving, homicidal rage against him, unrepentant to the very end.

Hey quick question for everyone - how much do we maintain the Write a Complete Monster page as a group? Like, if I wanted to propose a character for the page, either a Great or a Treat With Caution, should I take it here first or just message someone who's already curating the page? I know on the MB side we go through the thread first and Riley curates it, I just wanted to know if we do it the same way here

I'll get to those next week (or maybe tomorrow if I feel up to it).

Yes to Shing and ANew he's asking you trim your EP because ideally we don't want every EP running at thousands of words, it'll take people forever to read and the lack of concision is going to make some forget details by the time they get to the end of it.

to Prince Shing.

Please add the Pokemon stuff to the Drafts.

• Far Cry
• Flash Gordon
• Scribblenauts Unmasked:
  • Brainiac stands in stark contrast to the rest of the series. Once again a being desiring perfection, he manipulates the friendship-seeking Doppelganger into helping other villains cause mayhem and destruction so that he can collect the Star Sprites. Hacking Cyborg into leading the Justice League into a trap, Brainiac steals Lily's globe and reveals his plan: gather up his 52 other versions from the multiverse, for a Hive Mind, and destroy ever living being in the multiverse so that he remains, calling them "imperfect" compared to him.
  • A Crisis of Imagination comic: Anti Monitor is the mastermind who sends his Shadow Demons to possess civilians to instigate chaos across the universe while supplying advance weapons to several supervillains to further spread destruction and corrupt heroes into fighting their own allies. The Anti-Monitor later has his Weaponers invade the planet Rann, installing a tower to telepathically control the civilians into attacking each other. When his fortress has been invaded by the Justice League, Anti-Monitor destroys Brainiac's ship, knocking out almost all of the heroes, and attempts to kill Maxwell and his twin sister Lily until the Phantom Stranger intervenes, at which point Anti-Monitor murders the latter by erasing him from existence. Anti-Monitor imprisons all of the defeated heroes within his tower until Maxwell and his friends break them out and attack Anti-Monitor, to which he would later activate his tower and successfully destroys the multiverse, leaving nothing but a blank void.
• 2009 video game's Realistic version: The Spider Witch, a (supposedly) human follower of Ivo Shandor in life, operated in Hotel Sedgewick as a gruesome Serial Killer for the time she was alive. The Spider Witch lured men to her room where she proceeded to savagely murder them, hang up their bodies, and paint the room with their blood. No less vicious in undeath than she was in life, the Spider Witch is implied to be keeping the souls of some of her victims enslaved as the Webbed Fiends.
• Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019) & Godzilla vs. Kong: Ghidorah, The One Who is Many, is an invasive alien kaiju who fought the kaiju of Earth for control of the planet before being defeated and sealed away in ancient times. Released in the present day, Ghidorah cheerfully kills several humans before and during a fight with Godzilla, displaying a simplistic thirst for blood that clashes horribly with the natural animal instincts that motivate the terrestrial Kaiju. After the apparent death of Godzilla, Ghidorah uses his powers to enslave the remaining Kaiju of Earth, forcibly awakening them and commanding them to wipe out all life on the planet. When Madison Russell uses a device called the ORCA to disrupt his plans, Ghidorah attempts to kill her in cold blood simply because he can. After being converted into a Robotic Psychopath as Mechagodzilla by Apex Cybernetics, Ghidorah promptly corrupts Mechagodzilla's AI, slaughters the ones who brought him back, and resumes his rampage, his sadistic tendencies shown in how he targets Godzilla and wipes out swathes of Hong Kong and laughing about it. A sinister analogue to the Devil opposite the benevolent God-like Godzilla, King Ghidorah is just as wicked here as he was at the start of his movie career.
• Howard Lovecraft and the Frozen Kingdom: Nyarlathotep, wicked as always, is the servant of Azathoth seeking to destroy Earth and other worlds for the Outer Gods. Nyarlathotep works alongside Abdul Alhazred in order to use the Necronomicon to resurrect Cthulhu, now named Thu Thu Hmong/Spot, manipulating the young H.P. Lovecraft into getting the book for them, only to betray the boy and tries to use the book to bring back Cthulhu. In The Undersea Kingdom, Nyarlathotep helps Abdul in holding Lovecraft's parent hostage under the threat of death if he doesn't give them the Necronomicon, later burns Alhazred to death after growing tired of his failure. In The Kingdom of Madness, he makes a deal with a future Lovecraft to retrieve Spot to him. Once that succeeded and revives Cthulhu, he has Cthulhu destroy a planet populated by Deep Ones to demonstrate his powers, planning to destroy the entire Earth next for the Outer Gods.
• Drakengard 3 prequel manga:
  • Fatal Crimson (aka The Red Unto Death):
    • Nero, one of the last elves alive, is a swaggering sadist and the traveling companion of the male One. Together the two have been slaughtering their way through entire towns and kingdoms in an effort to extinguish the otherwise-incurable Red Eye virus. Unlike his partner, Nero only cares about indulging himself, having fun, and murdering as many people as possible—infected or not—while constantly imploring the male One to become even worse. When Nero and the male One ingratiate themselves to a kingdom by saving its princess, Nero attempts to rape her, and is only forced to substitute her with the princess's handmaiden by the male One's intervention. Not even the revelation that his own sister is an Omnicidal Maniac dampens the grin on Nero's face; Nero always wanted to destroy the world with his own hands, and when his sister is dead, Nero hacks off his partner's still-living head to keep with him as he moves on to keep spreading the virus and eventually tear apart the world.
    • Nero's sister, the imposter posing as the female One, is no better than her brother. Likewise a sadist who tricks the male One into thinking she's his sister before stabbing him for a sick chuckle, the imposter murdered her clan elder to take his magical power and then used that power to amass a huge following of people infected by the Red Eye. The healing magic Nero's sister uses is illusory—all of her followers are secretly kept in their physically ravaged states and turned into brainwashed soldiers Nero uses to commit political assassinations and spread the virus even further. Nero is responsible for manipulating war and bloodshed on catastrophic levels, all for the purpose of seeing humanity rend itself apart.
  • Five Intoners: Bass, Lord of the Country of Sands, is a truly vile piece of work even among his fellow Lords. Bass has kidnapped dozens of children during his reign, murdering their parents and anyone else who tries to appeal to him, hanging the bodies of his dead citizens on his castle's walls. Bass murders all the children he's captured in order to make sick artwork out of their dead bodies, making dolls made of skin and bone and stuffing the corpses of the kids he's murdered in order to mount them. Bass also turns people into horrific, misshapen monsters he looses on anyone who tries to stop him.
• Superwoman is Owlman's sadistic lover, a self-proclaimed "psychopathic murderer" who gets off on hurting others on both personal and grander scales. Reigning alongside fellow Syndicate members in threatening the entire population of their Earth, Superwoman is eager to aid Owlman in his plot to annihilate all worlds across the multiverse, actually aroused at the idea of ending all life across all realities while betraying the rest of their allies. When confronted by Batman, Superwoman goes about beating him brutally and torturing him, threatening him with the fate of either dying at her hand, or becoming her personal "pet" to do whatever she wants with.
• Batman: The Dark Knight Returns: The Mutant Leader is a vicious gang boss who uses his "mutants" to terrorize Gotham City for the sheer sake of violence. Having his mutant gang commit all sorts of massacres, slayings, and crimes across Gotham, the Mutant Leader eventually has his men begin kidnapping young children for ransom, then brutally murder the kids even when the ransoms are paid. The Mutant Leader's ultimate plan is to march on Gotham and kill countless people in a quest to decapitate Commissioner James Gordon and parade his head through the streets. When captured by Batman, the Leader responds by ordering his mutants to raze the entirety of Gotham to the ground while he personally tears out the throat of the city's mayor when he tries to negotiate peace talks with the Leader.
• The Brain is the leader of the Brotherhood of Evil and the final Arc Villain of the series. Compensating for his lack of a body by being one of the most depraved foes the Teen Titans face, the Brain is introduced tormenting the Doom Patrol in specialized cages, threatening to slowly crush Elasti-Girl to death while torturing Patrol leader Mento with electricity. When his plan to use a quantum generator to wipe out entire cities is thwarted by the Titans, the Brain begins rounding up every young hero across the globe so as to permanently freeze them into trophies, with even powered toddlers not exempt from the Brain's reach. As shown in tie-in comics, the Brain also subjects the Titans to horrible Mind Rape via the villainous Phobia, and threatens the lives of 40,000 people inside a baseball stadium. After the Titans invade his lair to rescue his frozen prisoners, the Brain tries to detonate a bomb and "clear the board completely", willing to murder his dozens of Brotherhood allies while he escapes so long as it ensures the deaths of every last hero who could stop him.
• Attack on Titan fanfic A Second Chance: Kenny Ackerman is bereft of the redeeming qualities of his canon counterpart. When it becomes clear that his boss Rod Reiss had lost against the Survey Corps, Kenny happily abandons Rod to his demise before joining up with Marley in their campaign to exterminate the Eldians of Paradis, his own people. He assassinates Willy Tybur to unite the world against Paradis; schemes with Zeke Yeager to distribute the latter's spinal fluid among the Paradis military to blackmail several soldiers into working with them under the threat of being transformed into Titans; and later abducts Zeke's younger half-brother Eren for Zeke's genocidal plans, taking pleasure in killing several soldiers guarding him while personally taunting his nephew Levi over Zeke's betrayal.
• StarCraft II fanfic Escape from Skygeirr: Narud is the cruel headmaster of the Moebius Foundation which performs horrific experiments on many living beings. He intentionally infected Alexei Stukov with the Zerg virus and then claimed him as his test subject. During the years, Narud used Stukov's ability to regenerate his body to perform various deranged experiments on him. Whenever he displeased him, Narud wouldn't hesitate to punish him by either using a device which inflicts excruciating pain on Stukov or tearing off one of his limbs. Narud also visits Stukov during the nights, disguised as his dead friend just to torment him, and it's heavily implied that he rapes him. When one of his employees helps Stukov escape, Narud tries to kill them both. While he claims that he has good intentions, the truth is that he simply enjoys the pain he is inflicting on other beings.
• 2047: Sights of Death (2014): Colonel Asimov is a corrupt and ruthless man in charge of the security forces of the Confederacy. Covering up illegal experiments, Asimov led his army through civilian regions, massacring everyone in the areas so bodies are stacked in piles by the hundreds. To cover this up, Asimov sacrificed his own troops, sending them into suicide missions to wipe them out while he later tries to hunt down a surviving "mutant", showing no compunction in torturing and killing whoever is in his way with only light amusement that he can kill so many without being seen as a criminal.
• Cub (aka Welp): "Stroper" dwells in the woods filled with booby traps. With Kai working as his lackey, the two of them kidnap, torture, and murder any wanderers who enter their domain. When Sam comes across Stroper's horde of bodies in his underground lair, Stroper chases after him, killing one of Sam's counselors before murdering several of the boy scouts accompanying Sam. After he captures Sam and another counselor, Jasmijn, Stroper tries to force Sam to murder her. When Sam and Kai are both knocked into a pit, Stroper makes them fight to the death, which ends with Sam murdering Kai. Later, Stroper and Sam chase after Jasmijn when she tries to escape, and Stroper successfully manipulates Sam into murdering Jasmijn.
• Jennifer's Body: Nikolai Wolf is the leader of the Satan-worshipping indie band Low Shoulder, and is directly responsible for all the death and misery in the film. While performing in a bar one night, he prompts a fire to magically break out, burning dozens of people to death. Singling out Jennifer Check and believing her to be a virgin, Nikolai and his band abduct her and decide to use her in a ritual sacrifice, with Nikolai savagely stabbing her supposedly to death. Nikolai then lies about saving people from the fire, and uses at least one of Jennifer's killings to become famous and a "public hero", fooling pretty much everyone with Anita "Needy" Lesnicki unable to convince anyone of the truth.
• Random Fire (5th film): Jafari Bin Kasim is the leader of a terrorist organization who had developed Mind Control technology, which he uses on captured Delta Force operatives, brainwashing them into becoming suicide bombers, forcing them to commit terrorist attacks on his behalf. Introduced sending a brainwashed Delta Force member to suicide bomb a train carrying a diplomat and his family, killing everyone aboard, Jafari had his men capture a village, and subsequently blow it up when Delta Force members tries to resolve the hostage situation, before abducting several members, one of whom he sends to commit another suicide bombing on the Boston Financial Center killing everyone inside. When Captain Skip and his team managed to infiltrate his hideout, Jafari reveals he already had Skip brainwashed and forces Skip to blow up himself with most of his team, and later captures Delta Force Operative Robert Johnson, and puts him through Mind Rape while forcing protagonist Brad Kennedy to watch.
• Dennis Crimm is the de facto head of the Snuff Film operation involving setting sharks loose in lake to get tourists killed, having made at least 46 snuff films to make money. When his ex-girlfriend Sara and her friends arrive at her hometown, Dennis targets her for leaving him, and his accidental scarring. After the first attack, Dennis offers to take a couple in the group back to the mainland, but reveals he's behind the attacks before shooting the boy into the water, and forcing the girl to strip before she herself is pushed in with the sharks. When the Sara and her boyfriend Nick learn the truth, Dennis leaves Nick to be killed by the corrupt sheriff and kidnaps Sara, before he and his friend Red throw her dog overboard. Dennis places Sara into a shark cage with a great white on the hunt, and kills his own henchman Red just to catch Nick off guard, even diving into the water with Nick and trying to strangle him as he tries to get the cage open.
• The End of Innocence (3rd film): The Warlock, also known as Phillip Covington, has committed himself to satanic Black Magic, seeking to sacrifice a "special" child born on a blue moon and birth a race of evil to spread across the world. Attempting to do so to a young Kris in the early 1700s, the Warlock bides his time after her witch mother transported her to the future to protect her from him. Killing many people over the years, the Warlock eventually lures Kris and her friends to the mansion built atop the Warlock's catacombs. Slowly possessing and torturing Kris's friends, he forces them to abandon her one by one to end their own suffering, before finally attempting to sacrifice Kris herself to bring the End ever closer.
• Devil's Due only: Sei Tin is the leader of the rogue Red Ninja clan, who murdered his way to the top and brags about killing any clan members who he deemed as weak. After suffering a crippling injury and losing control of the Red Ninjas while trying to kill Snake Eyes, Sei Tin returns, massacres a large chunk of the clan, and kidnaps Storm Shadow's lover Junko, subjecting her to months of physical and psychological torture. Sei Tin eventually breaks Junko's mind and tries to force her to kill Storm Shadow while Sei Tin murders the man's pupils, which culminates in Junko regaining cognizance long enough to kill herself rather than deal with the trauma Sei Tin subjected her to. When left paralyzed following another defeat, Sei Tin gleefully takes advantage of former partner T'jbang's mercy to swap bodies with him, trapping T'jbang in his own paralyzed, mute body and mocking him daily while attempting to once more turn the Red Ninjas into his own personal army.
• The Immortals: Custodian General Golderayce One-Eye is a slimy, selfish copperwaif who has assumed control over the Garden of Life and its healing waters, hoarding them all to himself with no care for the countless innocents subject to disease and death without the waters' aid. Golderayce uses his control over the Garden to institute total power in the city of Riverrise, having his custodians assassinate and execute anyone who defies Golderayce and impale their bodies for the whole city to see. Years ago, Golderayce's jealous possessiveness spurred him to murder his object of affection, Maugin, and then imprison her lover and friend for centuries out of spite. When the heroic Nate tries to sample some of the Garden's water to save a friend, Golderayce responds by planning to flay the man alive, torture his friends to death, and slash open the throats of two of his own servants who tried to offer Nate assistance.
• The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms: Scimina Arameri is the most wicked of the Arameri bloodline of the ruling city of Sky. Seeking to take over as heir from her aged uncle Dekarta, Scimina is also a cruel sadist who uses the captive god Nahadoth as a Sex Slave while also abusing and mistreating him. Despising her cousin Yeine for being part of the Darr people, Scimina attempts to use her kingdoms to commit utter genocide on Darr, deciding to settle for enslaving them if she cannot have this. Torturing Nahadoth and his son Sieh to prove a point to Yeine, Scimina later murders her own twin Relad when it appears he may become heir over her.
• Don't Look Down (1998 Made-for-TV Movie): Mark Engel plotted his wife Carla's death in order to inherit her family fortune. When her sister Rachel fell to her death instead, Mark began killing Carla's new group of friends and planting evidence pointing to her as their murderer, drugging her drinks with hallucinogens and using her inherited schizophrenia against her to make her believe that Rachel is still alive and behind the killings. Tormenting Carla's friends with their pasts and digging up dirt on her therapist to drive her further into insanity, Mark confronts her and her therapist at the cliff where Rachel fell, revealing his plan and making one final effort to throw the both of them off.
• Galidor: Gorm, Conqueror of a Thousand Worlds, is the overlord of the Outer Dimensions, seeking to take over Galidor throughout the series. Having enslaved and wiped out entire species, Gorm also burnt Jens's organic body; wiped out Euripides's people and Tepol's armies; and keeps the Outer Realms dependent on him using a virus on their computers. Formerly the Chief Councilman of Queen Raina's court, Gorm saw her romance with Samuel Bluetooth as a threat to his power, and set up a riot on the world of Kek to kill him; failing that, he turns on Raina herself, later trying to kill her child with Samuel, seemingly tossing Samuel to his fiery death. In his pursuit of Nick, Gorm captures his friend Allegra, nearly forcing her into a pit of wasps; tries to corrupt Nick himself; and later forces Allegra to listen as Nick is mauled by a beast of his. Finally reaching the gates of Galidor, Gorm's self-justifications are dismantled by his former pupil Lind, at which point he absorbs her and Nick's friends into an explosive orb he intends to launch, willing to risk Galidor's destruction to breach the gates. Even when beaten, it is revealed he has been keeping Samuel alive and captive for years.
• Santa Clarita Diet: Dobrivoje Poplović, the Big Bad of season 3, is a sadistic Serbian who has an obsession with the undead. He frequently has had undead people abducted and attempted to experiment on them while they're alive—and possibly has mistakenly abducted regular humans that he's tortured anyway. Until Poplović gets a lead in Santa Clarita, at least two undead break free and kill themselves to avoid being dissected. Poplović cares nothing for having incompetent employees murdered or threatened, threatening one of his new men by suffocation with a plastic bag, driving two to eventually quit due to being abused continuously. Believing Joel Hammond to be the undead he's looking for, Poplović threatens to kill everyone at his and wife Sheila's party if he doesn't go with him. Poplović then impales Sheila to a wall when discovering she's the true undead, stating his intention to kill Joel and use her and other undead people to harvest their blood for a cure to aging that he can profit from.
• Baron Mordo is a power-hungry sorcerer who seeks to unleash the Dread Dormammu onto his universe. Years ago trying and failing to murder the honorable Ancient One to assume his position, Mordo became a servant to Dormammu and enacted such schemes as hypnotizing dozens of innocents into being his Cannon Fodder slaves to further his own goals. Eventually restoring Eddie Brock into Venom and transforming Cletus Kasady into Carnage, Mordo unleashes the two to terrorize a science expo, try to kill Spider-Man, and drain entire streets' worth of innocents of their life forces. Mordo's ultimate goal is to feed Dormammu a hefty number of souls to empower him in escaping his dimensional prison and devour Mordo's entire universe while Mordo enjoys the destruction so long as it brings him power.
• Putana, the "Killer of Infants", is a Rakshasi known for killing infants by poisoning her breast milk and killing them when they feed, having done this to countless infants in the past. When King Kamsa summons her to kill the infant Krishna, Putana disguises herself as a beautiful woman in an attempt to kill him. After Krishna sucks her life force out, Putana reveals her demonic form and attempts to destroy the town of Vraj, managing to turn the surrounding forest to dust before being slain.
• Phantasm: Endgame: The Tall Man is a Hive Mind made up of the collective consciousness of an entire race of the Dark Ones given an avatar. The Dark Ones are a race of aliens that wiped out all life in their dimension—containing hundreds of planets—with any survivors transformed into their undead slaves, still aware of everything that the Tall Man entity had done and are forced to comply. The Tall Man plans to copy the technology of the Dimension Fork so he could travel across all the countless dimensions and planes of reality and gain access to every world of every reality and wipe out all of existence itself.
• "The Trickster", Ji-Woon Hak, was a K-pop superstar by day and a sadistic serial killer by night. Ji-Woon was recruited for the K-pop band NO SPIN, only to let his bandmates die in a fire to take their fame for himself. Unlocking a bloodlust from his bandmates' screams, he began kidnapping, torturing, and killing innocent people so that he could record their screams for his own music, experimenting on his victims so as to ensure he got the sounds he wanted from them. When his executives took away his ability to self-produce his music, Ji-Woon created his masterpiece, slowly butchering everyone from the guilty executives to innocent stagehands while forcing his manager to watch. When the Entity came for him, Ji-Woon entered the Fog willingly, excited by the opportunity to continue making his "art" while basking in his own glory.
• Mirror's Edge Catalyst: Gabriel Kruger is the CEO of KrugerSec and the dictator of Glass. Lacking his father's basic love for humanity, Kruger came up with the idea of Reflection, a program that can manipulate people's emotions to give him total control over everyone in the city. Escalating protests into the November Riots, Kruger personally killed Erika and Martin Connors for defying his will, then teargassed and kidnapped their daughter Caitlyn before grooming her into Isabel Kruger. Intending to force Reflection into every citizen of Glass, Kruger cracks down on the Runners to prevent them from interfering, tortures and kills Noah to find heroine Faith Connors's location, and scapegoats the scientist in charge of the project to force her into his underground prison camp. When confronted with his crimes, he blames Faith for all of his horrific actions, mocking the fact that he's killed or hurt everyone she's ever cared about.
• The Savage Dragon:
  • Overlord is the leader of the Vicious Circle, and Dragon's most persistent, personal enemy. A Superfreak who seeks to take over Chicago and enslave every human in the city, Overlord uses his gang of freaks to commit crime and spread fear across the city. These include murdering She-Dragon's father for refusing to sell him a chip that would grant him access to the city's computer system; taking the city's train passengers hostage and attempting to have them crash into an unfinished tunnel; planting a series of bombs across town, with the final one planted inside the police department during a charity ball; and gaslighting Dragon into believing that he was the original leader of the Vicious Circle in an attempt to break his mind and ruin his life. Despite his rhetoric of freaks never harming other freaks, Overlord frequently tries to have Dragon and pals killed, and isn't afraid to torture or gruesomely punish his lackeys should they fail him, even once attempting to assassinate a freak running for mayor under the belief that only he shall lead the freaks.
  • "Possession", "Armageddon", "Ceasefire": Horde is a sapient Hive Mind of leeches from ancient times who seeks to obtain global domination. Having the ability to control one's mind by planting one of his leeches onto them, Horde seeks to have every human on Earth under his control, viewing the concept of humans lacking free will to be exciting. After Horde is resurrected after an encounter with Dragon, he manipulates the corrupt Dr. Reginald into using his new laser to destroy the ozone layer, which will cause a heat-themed apocalypse that'll allow Horde to walk amongst the earth and take it over, later betraying Reginald when his plan's almost complete. Returning one final time, Horde possesses the minds of the Vicious Circle to get closer to the world's leaders, hoping to plant his leeches onto them and be able to control the world through them.
  • "Loathing", "She-Fiend", "Endgame": The Fiend is a demonic entity who gleefully feeds on hatred. Regularly possessing people who have a strong hatred for somebody, the Fiend regularly enacts his hosts' hurtful desires for fun. Possessing a hateful self-help guru about to give a seminar on a yacht, the Fiend tries to have everybody on the yacht killed by steering the ship into an island. Later taking control over She-Dragon to feed off her hate for Overlord, the Fiend taunts Dragon over the fact that he's endangering her. In his final appearance, the Fiend acquires a magical orb, using it to absorb the agonized souls of hateful people to increase his strength, utilizing its power to open up a portal and suck up every hateful soul from across the entire universe.

Yes to Prince Shing.

Hey I am back. That said I won't be here as much for a few days while I fully recover.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 18th 2021 at 1:53:12 PM

to Prince Shing.

Bullman: Take as long as you need, glad to here everything went fine.

for Prince Shing.

Shing

Welcome back. Hope you recover soon.

Welcome back Bull!

Alright, I ran this by Dood and he gave the okay:

Thoughts?

to the Sauron quote.

Happy yes to that Sauron quote - didn’t realize it wasn’t already up

Yes to the Sauron quote.

Hey, guys, I got a new keeper from Grimm Tales of Terror, their quarterly issue, HH Holmes!

And it'll come as NO SURPRISE who we might be discussing...but anyways, our plot begins in modern day. Detective Susan Murphy is the head of security at the Gemini hotel in Chicago Illinois that has been the subject of a series of mysterious disappearances...Harold Myers, a seeming detective arrives, only to reveal he's actually with the history department at the local university. See, this bears a close resemblance to an area of his study...

Who is HH Holmes?

The famous killer, a man who moved to Chicago in the 1800s for the world's fair. A surgeon and businessman who constructed a hotel as a true murder palace...as told in flahsback, Holmes has killed hundreds there....guests were lured in to be subjected to horrific tortures, from being burnt alive, electrocuted, stretched on the rack, drowned...in some cases with acid added to the water. Holmes would lure in employee, have them sign life insurance policies with himself as the beneficiary, and then stagethe horrible deaths to look like someone else's work.

Even his own wife wasn't safe. Holmes vivisected her in front of their daughter Pearl...he also sold the corpses to the local university for profit since they were always in need of cadavers....eventually he got too greedy by preparing a scheme with his business partner who Holmes of course killed horribly. But this time? He got found out...

Now in modern day, it's revealed Susan had left the force after an encounter with a seemingly immortal killer. Her boss is burnt alive, the evidence points to the handyman....but then at the end? The true villain is Susan's boss, who intends to one up the famous serial killer...and then Professor Myers reveals he's more than he appears: he himself is HH Holmes, immortal. When he was captured, he was approached by a famed bandit who was wearing a strange ring and offered a deal...immortality and power. Holmes left the jail, slaughtering multiple people in his way, murdered the police who arrested him and their families and returned to Chicago in 7 years when his daughter Pearl was pregnant...

Only for the man who gave the deal to arrive, since it was time to pay up...but the deal wasn't for Pearl's child, it was for Pearl, Holmes having her cast to hell. He left the baby behind and traveled the world, killing at will ever since...turns out Susan is his descendant and he's so wanted to meet her...

With the comic concludion as HH Holmes offers her the choice: hell and death...or taking the ring with a deal of her own...

Any mitigating issues?

These tend to be standalone but Holmes would pass even in the main Grimmverse. The amount of death and torture, all shown onscreen, is staggering. Holmes even invents brand new ways to torture and slaughter others. like, holy hell, he's just continued mass serial killings after becoming immortal with his powers.

The only possible issues are Pearl, who he's spared...he even gets angry his arrest has "taken hima way from his daughter Pearl"...only to have her sent to hell without batting an eye or a glimmer of remorse. His interest in Susan isn't remotely redeeming, since he wants her to become a monster or die. Kids are nothing more than possessions or legacy.

Conclusion?

A startingly easy yes to HH holmes. My first Holmes, too.

Also, quick thing:

this entry:

• Grimm Tales of Terror's Volume 4 #13 ("The Black Dahlia"): Jack the Ripper is introduced as an immortal vampire indicated to be Dracula himself who claims credit for the ghastliest unsolved murders in the modern day and countless more untold. Preferring not to draw blood through the neck but through the bloody consumption of the organs, Jack slaughters prostitutes and other women who won't be missed everywhere from Whitechapel to Cleveland, Ohio during the 1930s. Once, Jack left the mutilated carcass of an associate of his named Elizabeth Short in Leimert Park after he was finished using her to his content. Jack is interrupted from his latest feeding in Detroit only long enough to gruesomely murder the fiancée of a detective pursuing him before closing in on the detective herself.

Is on the Grimm monsters page rather than the main one with the other Grimm Tales of Terror ones.

Holmes

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Americans OG serial killer.

Edited by miraculous on Apr 18th 2021 at 2:06:49 AM

to Holmes

Yes to Holmes.

Holmes

to HH Holmes an the Sauron quote