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During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.

Specific issues include:

  • Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
  • A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
  • Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
  • Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
  • Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.

It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.

Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:

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Complete Monster Cleanup Thread

Please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List before suggesting any new entries for this trope.

IMPORTANT: To avoid a holler to the mods, please see here for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.

When voting, you must specify the candidate(s). No blanket votes (i.e. "[tup] to everyone I missed").

No plagiarism: It's fair to source things, but an effortpost must be your own work and not lifted wholesale from another source.

We don't care what other sites think about a character being a Complete Monster. We judge this trope by our own criteria. Repeatedly attempting to bring up other sites will earn a suspension.

What is the Work

Here you briefly describe the work in question and explain any important setting details. Don't assume that everyone is familiar with the work in question.

Who is the Candidate and What have they Done?

This will be the main portion of the Effort Post. Here you list all of the crimes committed by the candidate. For candidates with longer rap sheets, keep the list to their most important and heinous crimes, we don't need to hear about every time they decide to do something minor or petty.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Here you compare the actions of the Candidate to other character actions in the story in order to determine if they stand out or not. Remember that all characters, not just other villains, contribute to the Heinousness Standard

Final Verdict?

Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#203926: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:07:40 PM

Ah, apologies, I must have missed that question. The answer is no, they are not written by the same person, comics were written by a variety of people (Scott Wherle, Dan Jolley, and Jim Krueger) while the novels were written by Steve Lyons

No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!
MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#203927: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:10:45 PM

[tup] My Little Nya Can't Be This Weak!

And [tup] Ordall.

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#203929: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:27:00 PM

[tup] Ordaal. What happens to the mayor may I ask?

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#203930: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:27:32 PM

Okay, these are starting to pile, so I'm gonna chop off my non-Lovecraft writeups:

  • The Dynamite-King incarnation of Ming the Merciless is the greatest evil in his 'verse. The tyrant ruler of Mongo and its colony worlds who seeks to use the mystical Gatestones to take over the universe, Ming has subjected countless billions to death, slavery or horrific experimentation, tortuously augmenting millions of innocents into mindless Beast-Men to fill his armies. Ming is no less merciless toward his own men, regularly killing them for any reason he can think of. Ming debuts launching an EMP attack on Earth to black the planet out and cull the weak, before launching an attack on the weakened planet. Ming becomes steadfast enemies with Flash Gordon after, attempting time and time again to kill him and his friends, at one point ordering an entire city gassed simply to kill Flash. Ming culminates his villainy by having Coralia, an underwater city, destroyed and its populace slaughtered, while capturing its queen and torturing her into a broken shell of herself, taking out her water-breathing organs and eating them. Ming's final outing has him gassing cities to twist their residents into Beast-Men, subverting even his final Graceful Loser moment simply to trick Flash Gordon.

  • Bram Stoker's Death Ship: Even condensed to a retelling of the original novel's opening, Dracula—known entirely as the "Upyr"—is as vile as ever. The Upyr boards the Demeter to cross over from Transylvania to England while preying on the crew physically and mentally. The Upyr shows a penchant for Mind Rape, using detailed illusions to lure its victims to their deaths and condemning one man as a waste of life in the form of his abusive father before killing him. The Upyr ends having killed all but the captain of the Demeter, who himself is reduced to broken catatonia after what the Upyr has put him through as the Upyr itself moves onto England to begin its feast.

  • Freedom Fighters 2019: Adolf Hitler III is the pinnacle of the global Reich's evil, with a passion for cruelty eclipsing both his deceased grandfather and his paranoid father. "Addie" is a Torture Technician unrivaled in his craft, spending his time finding new and innovative ways to torture people to death in his underground mountain sanctum, introduced in the middle of carving up a man suspended by sharp hooks. When two of his soldiers fire off a shot that kills an endangered bald eagle, Addie tortures the two of them on an arbitrary suspicion they may be spies. When the carcass of the eagle is brought to him and verifies the soldiers' story, Addie offhandedly remarks to ensure the surviving soldier be killed anyway. Addie even demonstrates his talents on the Human Bomb, gleeful at the challenge the Human Bomb's unique physiology poses to him and trying to break him by torturing Doll Woman in front of him. Disgusted by his father's lack of a spine, Addie takes over the Reich himself by slashing his father's throat and unhesitatingly attempts to nuke everything within five-hundred miles merely to be free of the Freedom Fighters. A vile bully who couldn't even care less about the Reich itself, Addie attempts in the end to skip off to Argentina and spend the rest of his days torturing villagers to death to slake his boredom.

  • Landis Pope, the second inheritor of the Black Flame mantle, starts out as the CEO of Zinco Corporation who unearths the Black Flame suit for his own ends. Pope begins with capacity for remorse and horror over what tampering with the Kartha-Hem leads to, but loses them after falling into a deep crevice following his murder of Liz Sherman's homunculus friend Roger and his entire squad. Fully bonding himself to the Black Flame suit, Pope is rescued by the King of Fear and his subterranean people, where Pope repays them by manipulating and eventually killing the King of Fear in his bid to harness the Ogdru Jahad and restart humanity through them. After his death and resurrection during Hell on Earth, Pope sets himself up as a god among the survivors of New York, massacring everyone who stands up against him and shedding no tears even over the death of his loyal servant Marsten. Of all those in Hellboy who seek to use the Ogdru Jahad for delusionally well-intentioned ends, Pope stands out for ultimately throwing aside his humanity in his bid to make the Ogrdu Jahad his and have them annihilate the entire planet, wreaking horrific carnage on the world at large through them before his final death at Liz's hand.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#203932: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:55:58 PM

[tup] Tsanpo, Coyle, Nyarly and Ordaal

G-Editor The 47th President Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The 47th President
#203933: Mar 2nd 2020 at 4:59:16 PM

[tup] to Ordaal

[down] [tup]to Ki

Edited by G-Editor on Mar 2nd 2020 at 3:20:10 AM

My sandbox of EPs and other stuff
Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#203934: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:07:26 PM

@HamburgerTime: The last we see of the mayor, he's pretty much a complete wreck, his crimes exposed, his guilt overtaking him as he is taken into custody and last seen when the heroes try to get info on Ordaal's operation out of him, and all he can do is cry and scream that he had nothing to do with Ordaal's more vicious crimes and he doesn't know anything else.

Next up, to go ahead and knock this one out too....from the second book in the trilogy? Meet Maruunus Ki.

Who is he?

Merely one of Baron Karza's Co-Dragons in the original Image comic, Maruunus Ki in the alternate timeline presented in the novels is a Baron himself, Emperor of a world called Micropolis populated with billions whom Ki rules over with an iron fist, and despite their seeming adoration of the man...Ki is deserving of anything but.

What has he done?

Ki runs Micropolis like a dictatorship, torturing people who have information he wants, forcing slave labor out of innocents until they drop dead, leaving literal billions in starving conditions just so himself and a select few others can wallow in privilege and wealth. To further serve his purposes, Ki had something he likes to call "the System" developed, the System being a world-wide branching series of devices that anyone can plug into their necks and experience a virtual reality of sorts.....that Ki specifically designs to be more addicting than the strongest drug, and filled with subliminal messages to worship and adore him.

Ki distributes the System throughout Micropolis, driving countless people practically insane thanks to their dependency on the technology, with many using whatever resources they can scavenge just to afford more."plug-ins" to the system, disregarding their own health thanks to how addicting the System's tech is.

Now, as Ryan Archer and the other Micronauts show up on Micropolis, Ki has recently made a deal with the vicious Repto race to give them ancient technology belonging to the Pharoid race that Ki found buried on Micropolis. Ki truthfully plans to deceive the Reptos...and then Ki finds a manuscript, detailing events yet to be, literally spelling out the future for Ki.

As Ki reads? His betrayal of the Reptos will lead to them trying to unleash a lethal virus onto Micropolis, which will only be stopped by the Micronaut known as Acroyear. Ki proceeds to hunt down Acroyear, planning to arrange for this prophecy to be made true so that Ki can betray the Reptos and secure the time travel tech, while knowing that their attempted retribution will be stopped by Acroyear.

Ki uses the woman known as Persephone to lure Acroyear in, having her play the part of a romantic interest in Acroyear's life to lead him into Ki's hands. Once Ki has him, the tyrant gleefully brags and rubs Persephone's true nature in Acroyear's face just to torment the man.

Soon enough, the Reptos realize Ki's betrayal, and declare war on Micropolis. As the race of lizards lay siege to the planet, killing hundreds of its citizens, Ki, being the astounding leader he is...flees from the capital of the city, heading to hide out in his fully-stocked bunker and ordering over a dozen innocent civilians shot dead just because they noticed the entry way to said bunker, and Ki doesn't like to share.

Confronted by Acroyear in his bunker, Ki duels the man and eventually overpowers him, and though Ki is reminded of the prophecy, that it requires Acroyear alive to stop the Repto fleah-eating plague from sweeping across Micropolis? Ki just smugly proclaims that he's got enough supplies to last him in his bunker for years to come, and that even if it damns the rest of his planet and its billions to horrible death, it'll be worth it just to kill Acroyear right then and there with his own hands.

Luckily, Acroyear gets the upper hand and, aided by a betrayal of Persephone, he manages to lop off Ki's head and go about saving Micropolis from the Repto plague, even as countless members of the society decry and hate Acroyear from taking Ki from them, his decades of brainwashing them with the System continuing to work even after his death.

Freudian Excuse or other redeeming features?

Nah. Ki likes to act like he's got warrior honor, but it's utter bullshit. Capable in a fight as he may be, Ki is a backstabbing, cowardly ass who manipulates and brainwashes his kingdom into loving him, and he has zero care or concern for anyone in his employ.

The sole potentially redeeming feature his true timeline counterpart has—a loyalty to Karza—is obviously not present here given Karza's absence, with Ki himself wallowing in his own status as Baron.

Heinousness?

Though perhpaps not as viscerally horrible as Ordaal, Ki more than makes up for it in scope. He's ruling over a horrible kingdom, willingly holding it back from progress and leaving billions in dreadful, starving conditions just to keep his power base, he accentuates the horrors through his use of the System, and, along with routine killing and torturing of anyone in his way (seriously, killing over a dozen people because they saw the door to your hidey hole), he expliclty, happily is willing to give billions a death sentence by killing the only person prophesied to stop the Repto virus, just to save his own ass and to kill Acroyear for being a pain in the same ass.

Final Verdict?

Yes indeed to Ki.

How ironic that two minor villains in the original comic ascend to such horrible villainy just because Karza isn't around to show them who's boss [lol]

No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!
Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#203935: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:20:40 PM

And yep, easy yes to Ki. I do love it when one CM is traded for two or more, even if they're not necessarily as bad as the original dude.

Edited by Scraggle on Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:20:52 AM

MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#203936: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:21:15 PM

[tup]Ki.

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
falcontalons from Earth-2 Since: Apr, 2019
#203940: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:48:55 PM

Yes to Ming, Katarina, Heydrich, Tsanpo, Coyle, Nyarlathotep, Ordaal, and Ki.

Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii Since: Apr, 2018
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
#203941: Mar 2nd 2020 at 5:49:13 PM

[tup] to the Micronaughts duo

"Ah, apologies, I must have missed that question. The answer is no, they are not written by the same person, comics were written by a variety of people (Scott Wherle, Dan Jolley, and Jim Krueger) while the novels were written by Steve Lyons"

No worries Ravok!

The reason I ask, is wouldn't that make Karza fall under the Depending on the Writer clause?(Heck, with most of the comic guys we have under that the mitigating factors are at least in the same medium as when they lack them)

Things are really about to get Fun around here
emperors Messenger from another dimension. Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Messenger from another dimension.
#203942: Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:35:39 PM

Yes to Ki.

Welcome to the world of greatest media!
DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#203944: Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:48:03 PM

@Kylo: It's a possible train of thought to apply to Karza, but for me personally, the inherent issue is that nothing in the novels outright contradicts the original comic.

Karza is willing to kill his daughter, but nothing in the comic says he wasn't torn up about it. Sure that leap can be made because he's utterly cold to her, but he doesn't actually say something so definitive as "I don't care about you anymore, you can die now and I won't feel bad at all."

Karza ensured his own creation, but that's a last-second, big reveal to the comic. So we never got to see how he personally felt about it—meaning that the novel introducing the idea that he truthfully hated having to watch his father killed before him while he stood by and did nothing isn't completely out of the realm of possibility.

If someone like, say, "Mama" Madrigal can be cut because of a short tie-in comic expanding on her Freudian Excuse? Then I think this is a similar case where a novel expanded on a villain's inner thoughts to reveal some level of turmoil and trauma shouldn't be completely overlooked just because it's a different medium.

Edited by Ravok on Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:56:14 AM

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SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#203945: Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:02:40 PM

[tup] Ki.

[down] It sounds like it was at least well executed, so there's that. When this kind of thing is poorly executed, it's just as bad as being forced to have Christian Grey try to play to your sympathies.

[down][down][down] Looking forward, and I hope I don't miss it.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Mar 2nd 2020 at 10:32:56 AM

43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#203946: Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:05:18 PM

Yes to Ravok and Scraggle’s new candidates and shame as it is to see Karza go, I’ve got to agree with Ravok here. If the novels are intended to be a continuity to the comics and canon, then we’ve got to respect whatever it decides to do with the characters, whether we like it or not.

Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii Since: Apr, 2018
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
#203947: Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:09:23 PM

The different medium thing isn't the main point I had, my main point was more about the fact that the book is by a different writer then the comics were, I pointed out the different medium to say that on top of that its an even bigger gap between writers interpretations of the character then say, Joker or Sabretooth who get redeeming qualities in the comics from time to time.

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MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#203948: Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:24:32 PM

Speaking of Christian, I might just have that fanfic version of him this week.

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
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Goku Black
#203949: Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:36:06 PM

[tup]Ki and Ordeal

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
GeorgieEnkoom Emperor Georgie Artémis Enkoom Evulz II from Somewhere. Since: Feb, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Emperor Georgie Artémis Enkoom Evulz II
#203950: Mar 2nd 2020 at 9:31:43 PM

Sure to Ming, Katarina, Heydrich, Tsanpo, Coyle, Nyarlathotep, Ordaal, and Ki.

Nyarly's case is especially ironic for reasons you'll get to see here.

What's the work?

Unrequited Love is a supernatural one-short released on February 26, 2020. Originally slated for a February 14 release, the story was delayed for reasons. I do have my share of criticisms on the story. Talked about it with the author. Perhaps the plot was a bit too ambitious for such a short story, and at such it felt rushed. There's nonetheless attempts to develop the characters, and it isn't just made to have a CM that being said.

So, what's it's all about?

See, Darren Monaghan is an Irish bartender who's attempts at relationships... Failed miserably. Between someone already taken and a Manipulative Bitch, things didn't went well with Darren and lead to him lamenting about it, despite his parents, his brother Paul, his friend Paddy and Paddy's newlywed wife Allison's encouragements and attempts at cheering him up. One day, Darren encounters what seems to be an imaginary girl named April who claims to be the woman of his dreams, who supposedly can grant him "otherworldly desires". The girl, described as beautiful and a Nice Girl, could've been just that...

...If she wasn't our candidate.

Who's April? What has she done?

Becoming Darren's girlfriend, April start her first date with Paul by visiting a museum where Paul works as a curator. Alongside a group of tourists, they visited exhibits after exhibits, but were prevented from visiting the Irish Mythology exhibit.

Why, you may ask?

According to Paul and the museum higher ups : "there are several people who were driven insane after they entered that exhibit or at the very least, killed themselves. Mumbling something regarding how their girlfriend has betrayed them". Oops.

Despite having heard about that as well, April still attempts to pressure Darren into going to the exhibit, going as far as to threaten him with breaking up. Darren agrees to see with Paul if he could enter the exhibit as soon as possible.

Later on, April and Darren went to an amusement park, where Darren noticed that she had no reflection on the mirror. Confronting April about it, after a couple of bad lies that would make even Code Lyoko characters facefault, April revealed that she supposedly has psychic powers. Nothing special that being said. She comforts him, praises Paul, nothing special.

But when Darren gives a physical description of her to Paul, the curator mentions that April's physical appearance is exactly like an Irish Mythology character's. That and Paul adds that the museum higher ups plans to demolish the Irish Mythology exhibit soon and that they can't visit it. So, when Darren confronts April about all of that... She gets quickly angry and breaks up with him, while promising revenge for "defying" her and destroying her "expectations".

Cue a depressed Darren having a nightmare where April threatens to kill his mother Sheryl. But when he visits her home, turns out it wasn't just a nightmare : Sheryl was brutally killed, stabbed 40 times.

But it wasn't over. Next victims are Paddy and Allison, killed by a car accident.

Turns out, as you expected, that all three of these accidents were orchestrated by April, who gleefully brags about it to Darren, before kidnapping Paul. If Darren wants to save him, he had to join April and Paul in the exhibit... While bringing 30 children to be sacrificed. If not done by tomorrow, Paul will be killed.

Because it's where shit gets real, here's the appropriate music to get in the mood.

Upon reading information about her in Paul's notes, Darren and Detective Dorothea Flanagan (essentially a Tsundere) found out that April is in truth the Queen of the Fair Folk, who has many names, including Aoibheann. She was a tyrant and manipulated humanity, elves, leprechauns and fairies into fighting each other, leading to utter chaos in her own kingdom for kicks and giggles while innocents were kidnapped to be sacrificed.... To Azathoth, Almighty Idiot extraordinaire. However, a human (Eoghan, who used to be Aoibheann's lover until he found out about her atrocities), an elve, a leprechaun and a fairy united together to kill her. They succeeded and Aoobheann, after being stabbed by a holy dagger, got left, swearing vengeance against Eoghan's descendants.

"Rumours that Aiobheann's soul is responsible for the disasters that happened in our country such as the Great Famine, Air India Flight 182, Religious Wars and so on and had a penchant on targeting and manipulating innocent male who were still a virgin and manipulate them to cause horrific deeds as a revenge towards Eoghan and his descendants."

Thanks to Dorothea's help, Darren had little issue getting the 30 required kids. However, upon entering the exhibit and confronting April, he willingly shouted that he was about to kill them, thus allowing the kids to easily flee while he and Dorothea would stop her for good. Dorothea, being a Lovecraft fan, also found out April's real name.

People, sing after me!

NYYYYYAAAAAAARLYYYYYYYYY (backup vocalists : NYARLYYYYYYYYYY)

April, real name Nyarlathotep planned, through these sacrifices, to bring her body back to the real world (after all, so far she was only a ghost), and then to have Azathoth devour the entire world while her and Darren's soul rule over whatever is left. She attempts to kill Paul, but is stopped by Dorothea's holy water gun.

But see, April is a bit more resilient than our latest Nyarlathotep, so while it hurts her, it doesn't kill her. However, Dorothea uses her water gun to stun her while Darren stabs her obelisk (that contains her soul) with a dagger, killing her for good.

Heinousness?

Now, while it isn't the same author, the story is set in the same universe as Looperreallyreallyrocks's 30 Days in Spring and Fragments of a Soul. So, Nyarlathotep has to compete with Ryan Rhodes and Adam's father. Both are guilty of rape, with the former "beating a group of fourteen-year-olds to death", gang-raping and killing a girl, drowning two guys, torturing to death some people, threaten to kill his own "friends" and burning a stack of full of six graders alive, while the latter horribly, repeatedly rapes and sexually abuses his own son. But, let's be honest, compared to Nyarlathotep, this isn't much. Mind-raping virgin men, engineering a Race War between humans, elves, leprechauns and fairies, Historical Rap Sheet, personal crimes such as killing Darren's mother and friends while also attempting to kill Paul, attempting to kill 30 kids, trying to destroy the entire world barring Darren's soul... She's leaps and bounds ahead of the rest.

Freudian Excuse? Mitigating qualities?

Nyarlathotep was bad from the start, but genuinely loved Eoghan, to the point where, even if she planned to sacrifice his body to Azathoth, she planned to spare his soul so that they could rule together forever. She was genuinely hurt and heartbroken when Eoghan chose to side against her, seeing it as betrayal and swearing revenge on his descendants. Heck, centuries after, she still plans to rule with Darren's soul, because he's an implied descendant of Eoghan or share his personality. The issue is, that one redeeming quality turned into twisted obsession. Yeah, Yandere Nyarly wants Darren to suffer because he hasn't met her expectations, and blames him for the slightest things that hurt her or are her own fault, from not going to the Irish Mythology exhibit to killing Sheryl, Allison and Paddy. She claims that she wants him to rule with her on whatever remains of the world, but it's above all clear that destroying the world and everything he cares about is another way to permanently torment him.

So yeah, the one thing redeeming about her is ultimately twisted to the point it's hardly genuine love.

Generic Doomsday Villain issues?

At this point, with everything said beforehand, no need to explain why she is anything but that. Pass.

Any other mitigating factors?

Hashe.

Verdict ?

Kinda wanted to deal with a Nyarly or a Joker since a while. Didn't expect to deal with such... An unique one. A keeper, I'd say.

Edited by GeorgieEnkoom on Mar 2nd 2020 at 6:47:35 PM

J’m’arrête pas tant qu’j’vois pas des lignes sur les moniteurs (Not stoppin 'til I see Flatlines)

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