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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
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To add to my post however: I do have a kill count if Ghost is indeed going up. Ghost kills 16.
Edited by k410ren on Feb 17th 2020 at 9:13:27 AM
"I'll show you the Dark Side." CM actors and killsI wasn't even thinking of Koba or Griffith. Seems like he was an asshole before, and this just firmed it up (actually, saying THAT, I think of Torquemada).
Ok I have a villain in mind for this trope that we did disqualify on grounds of moral agency.
However, I have found some scant evidence that this arguably isn't really a disqualifier, however I am not sure if the evidence I have is enough to consider moral agency a non issue and would like to have a second opinion.
PM me if you want to hear about this villain.
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Writeup time:
- Mai-Otome Anime: Grand Duke Nagi Di Artai and John Smith are the respective leaders of the Artai Principality and the terrorist organization Schwarz. Desiring to conquer the world, the two begin by firing an energy cannon on a crowded stadium, injuring many innocent people, then unleashing their armies on the Kingdom of Windbloom, overthrowing Queen Mashiro. Smith also forces Erstin Ho, whom they have raised to be a spy, to attack Arika Yumemiya, while Nagi manipulates Nina Wang into joining him and has her attack Arika as well, resulting in Erstin sacrificing herself- an event that they only show amusement towards. Once in power, the two exile the poor population into the desert to die while also using the corpse of Lena Sayers to create the Valkyrie, Otomes that must obey Nagi under pain of electric shock should they refuse his orders. They then order Nina to use the Harmonium to destroy entire cities and kill everyone within, intending to spark a world war. Upon the heroines arriving to take back the kingdom, the two men send their minions to kill all the Otomes. Smith then attempts to kill Sergey upon the latter's betrayal; when he fails, Nagi shoots Sergey instead and uses his life to further extort Nina into following his orders, later ordering her to destroy Windbloom and everyone in it out of spite when his plans are foiled. Despite claiming to want to free Otomes from their contracts, their real aim is to force everyone to suffer the pain of war.
- Mai-Otome Manga: Sergey Auguste Taiki is the true mastermind and a far cry from his anime counterpart. Before the series began, he brainwashed Mai Tokiha and Mikoto into becoming his minions, and Mai and Kagutsuchi to burn down the village where Arika Yumemiya and the male Mashiro lived, killing nearly everyone inside, then took in the male Mashiro to raise him as a pawn. As the Prime Minister of Windbloom, Sergey's rule has devastated the Kingdom of Windbloom, and when he orders military expansion, mass unemployment results. He manipulates the Schwarz and Grand Duke Nagi Di Artai into causing chaos, and upon finally revealing himself to Nagi, he orders Mikoto to kill the heroes, resulting in Nagi sacrificing himself, an event he only shows amusement towards. Feigning loyalty to the real Mashiro, Sergey helps her take over Windbloom, making his rule even harsher than before and allowing his soldiers to torment and rape the citizens. He then unleashes the Dark HiME, evil versions of the HiME, to kill the heroes, resulting in Nina Wang and Erstin Ho grievously injuring themselves to save everyone. When the heroes confront him, he traps the male Mashiro in a nightmare, forcing him to relive his brutal bullying, while trying to force Arika and Nina to kill each other. When the male Mashiro breaks out, Sergey betrays the real Mashiro and controls Fumi Himeno into killing her, before stabbing the male Mashrio. Finally, he transforms into a giant monster and engulfs Windbloom in darkness, intending to destroy the world that he feels is filled with lies. A total madman, Sergey is said by the male Mashiro to love no one, not even himself.
Edited by MasterN on Feb 17th 2020 at 7:58:07 AM
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.- Mr. Haig
◊ from Steel Annual #1-—Crucible of Freedom.
- Angels of Death: Catherine "Cathy" Ward is the master of floor B3 with a love for punishing "sinners" and the cruelest of the titular Angels. As a young child, Cathy manipulated a girl, Lucy, into murdering her rivals at school. Growing up to become a prison guard, Cathy became infamous among the prisoners for her sadistic torture of them, while also abusing the now-grown-up Lucy into aiding her in her torture. In Episode 0, Cathy teams up with Doctor Daniel "Danny" Dickens to recruit killers for the Tower, showing nothing but amusement at the horrors she sees, and eventually gruesomely murders Lucy, specifically choosing Lucy as her first kill out of "love". In the main story, when Rachel "Ray" Gardner and Isaac "Zack" Foster reach her floor, Cathy forces them to play a Deadly Game. First, she straps Zack to an electric chair, shocking him repeatedly, and challenges Ray to save him; then she locks the two in a room with poison gas and challenges them to escape; and, in the anime, she makes Zack do a puzzle based off his traumatic childhood to torment him. She also reveals that she keeps several prisoners, all of whom are withered and zombie-like, in eternal torment. Finally, Cathy forces Zack to inject a drug that gives him an urge to kill, then has him chase Ray, before trying to make Ray kill Zack and trying to shoot them both. Even as a spirit, Cathy shows no remorse, instead blaming Ray for killing her and demanding she be executed by drowning.
- Forest of Drizzling Rain: The first Ogami-san, though seen as the hero of old who protected the village, is in fact behind the Kotori Obake's horrific past. To satisfy his lust under the guise of punishing criminals who defied the laws of the village, the first Ogami-san created a system where their wives and children would be sold into sexual slavery, imprisoning them in a dungeon to hide their suffering from the villagers. After falling in lust with an unnamed village woman, he falsely accused her of manipulating men to commit crimes so he could slaughter her husband and son, then imprison her in the dungeon, as "punishment" for her non-existent crimes. He and his men raped and impregnated her, mocking her all the while, then killed the fetus to make her suffer even more, ultimately leading to her snapping and becoming the Kotori Obake who would eventually murder them all in revenge. Despite portraying himself as a hero working for the goodness of the village, the first Ogami-san is rightfully described by one of his descendants as being nothing but a hateful tyrant.
- High School Prodigies Have It Easy Even In Another World (anime & manga): Duke Oslo El Gustav is a wrathful zealot for the Freyjagard Empire's Social Darwinism, seeking to kill his citizens as tribute to Emperor Lindworm. In order to fatally starve his people, he enacts forced gentrification, bans agriculture via "cleanliness" laws, and levies heavy taxes. When a neighboring region revolts, Gustav uses a spell powered by unwilling spirits in an attempt to incinerate the rebels and the nobles who failed to stop them. Upon seeing the broken remains of his prized emperor statue, he converts several Blue Brigade soldiers into tortured flaming zombies as revenge. Worshiping the emperor as the embodiment of his ideology, Gustav dies wishing for his master to crush the world's "weaklings" underfoot.
- Killing Morph, by Nokuto Koike & Masaya Hokazono: The depraved murderer known as Morph is a vicious Serial Killer on a crusade to "crush the world". Once a lonely sociopath who mastered the ancient power of Bilocation, Morph slaughtered ten people in broad daylight to continue the carnage from the safety of a cell, savagely beating the police chief and committing another massacre at a local bar. Obsessing over one of the survivors of his first killing spree, Madoka, Morph kills more victims in front of her and frames another patient for the murder of her counsellor. After his actions escalate to the double murder of Madoka's best friends, Morph butchers his own worshippers for daring to touch Madoka before trying to convince her into killing their leader.
- One Last Kiss (ghostwritten by Brandon Alexander): Priscilla Rawlins, after being turned into a vampire, abandoned her husband and their infant daughter, Eleanor, and became a vicious Vampire Monarch who, by her own account, has fed on and killed "too many to count." When a teenage Eleanor and her father move to Shadow Glen in 1730, they are followed by Priscilla, who enslaves and moves in with Richard Fier, a benevolent vampire who was living in Shadow Glen under the name Trevor. Priscilla plans on turning Eleanor into a vampire before having her marry Richard, so she murders Eleanor's father and feeds on and sires Eleanor's only friend, intent on destroying everyone and everything that Eleanor cares about so that the girl's resulting despair and loneliness will drive her to willingly submit to being sired by Richard. When Eleanor rejects her and calls her a monster, an annoyed Priscilla implies that she is perfectly willing to kill Eleanor, snarling, "I have the power to take your blood without returning you to life!"
- The Departed: Francis "Frank" Costello is an Irish mob boss who controls Boston's organized crime. He uses his power to commit murders with impunity, laughing at how one of his victims fell over in flashback. In the present day, Costello has some government microprocessors stolen so he can con the Chinese government, killing his thief to cover it up. Soon after, he sends much-abused goon Colin Sullivan to infiltrate the Boston PD, threatening to have his girlfriend raped if he fails. When policeman Billy Costigan infiltrates Costello's mob, he tortures him to see if he's still a cop before killing a couple of his own men and sending Billy to torture and murder locals who don't pay their protection money. After Costello is assassinated, it's revealed that he ordered all his records given to the police upon his death, intending his entire gang to be taken down with him.
- Gretel and Hansel (2020): Holda takes in Gretel and Hansel after their mother abandoned them. Revealed to be an evil witch, Holda was the mother of the girl in the pink cap who, after banishing her to the wilderness, was promised great power if she gave into the darkness. Sacrificing and cannibalizing her other children, Holda took the appearance of an elderly woman to lure children into her house with enchanted food before killing and eating them to enrich her powers. When she sensed the same powers in Gretel, Holda takes her as an apprentice and entices Hansel into climbing a ladder into a fire pit so Gretel would be forced to eat her own brother.
- I Spy (2002 film):
- Rachel Wright is a corrupt agent of the Bureau of National Security. During her mission to retrieve the Switchblade, a highly advanced, undetectable prototype stealth fighter, she was bribed by Arnold Gundars to give him the activation code of the plane and thwart her colleagues. After faking her death, she reveals to Gundars the location of the other BNS agents, causing him to send his henchmen to dispose of them. When fellow BNS agent Alex Scott finds the Switchblade, Rachel captures him and tortures him to make him reveal the new activation codes of the plane, knowing full well it will allow Gundars's terrorist customer Zhu Tam to nuke Washington, D.C. When more BNS agents arrive, Rachel takes the opportunity to fatally shoot Gundars and Tam In the Back in order to steal the access to all the bank accounts. Cruel, manipulative and sadistic, Rachel has ultimately no loyalty to anyone but herself, and is willing to do the worst things as long as it benefits her.
- The aforementioned Arnold Gundars and Zhu Tam are, respectively, a notorious Arms Dealer who made his fortune by selling weapons to criminals and terrorists; and a ruthless terrorist sent by his country's government to purchase the Switchblade. After acquiring the Switchblade, Gundars organizes a private party in his residence to gather the worst criminals on the planet and hold a secret auction to sell the plane to one of them. When some agents of the Bureau of National Security are sent to retrieve the plane, Gundars bribes the aforementioned Rachel Wright to help him get rid of the others. Ultimately, Gundars decides to sell the Switchblade to Tam, who plans to bomb Washington D.C., with the former willingly giving the latter everything he needs.
- Tyler Perry's A Fall From Grace: Sarah Miller, real name Betty Mills, is a con artist who manipulates elderly women while stealing their fortunes, freezing their bank accounts and taking their Social Security information, before kidnapping and locking them up in her basement where they either die from lack of necessities or kill themselves from the trauma. She's done this to over sixteen elderly ladies for 25 years. When Grace gets driven to the Despair Event Horizon by Shannon and seemingly kills him, Sarah hides his body and guilt trips her into admitting she killed him, in an attempt to frame her for a fake murder charge.
- Imitation in Death: Niles Renquist is a misogynistic sociopath who so chafes under how he believes women oppress him that he turns to serial murder as an outlet. Sexually abusing his maid while loathing his wife and daughter, Renquist adopts the personas of past serial killers, including the Boston Strangler—using a broomstick to sexually assault his victim—Jack the Ripper, and Ted Bundy, attacking women to mimic his idols' MO. After killing multiple women, he plans to emulate a serial killer to torture and rape his victims, carving them into pieces while they are still alive, with Eve speculating he would have eventually killed his own wife and young daughter.
- "Broken Glass", by Harlan Ellison, from Angry Candy: The unnamed rapist, is a cruel man who invades women's minds to mentally violate and torture them, leaving them broken and traumatized in the real world. Invading Dana's mind to rape and taunt her for the sole sake of pleasuring himself, the rapist has Dana's mental avatar raped and tortured, while also forcing her to listen to a friend of hers die in a car accident all for the sake of fun.
- I Shall Wear Midnight: The Cunning Man was a witch-finder in life, but persisted as a spirit of pure hatred after his original body disappeared, and resurfaces every few decades to target new witches after each defeat, killing them if they lose. Cunning Man targets the Chalk with his Hate Plague, turning them against Tiffany Aching and framing her for the death of the previous Baron, while also making the Baron's son, Roland, turn against her and engineering a situation so a drunken cook falls to her death and Tiffany is blamed. Upon discovering Roland's fiancée Letitia is also a witch, Cunning Man attempts to murder them both multiple times, then possesses a criminal and has it kill its canary for no reason, before making a final attempt on Tiffany, Letitia, Roland and Preston's lives. Seeking to end witchcraft once and for all and uncaring of whose lives he ruins in the process, the Cunning Man is fueled by sheer malice unmatched by any other foe Tiffany faces.
- Live Squad's "Murderahh
": Majesty's character wants to get back at someone for attempting to kill him. He decides to target the latter's entire family, first raping and killing his girlfriend in front of him, handcuffing him and stuffing a bomb in his mouth, before throwing a baby out the window. When a cop attempted to arrest him and Stretch's character, the latter two killed him.
- N.W.A's "One Less Bitch
": Dr. Dre's character is a ruthless pimp who only cares about money. Upon noticing the attractive prostitute Clara, Dre's character decides to pimp her to gain money. However, after accusing her of stealing from him, Dre's character ties her up to a bed and has her gang-raped by his friends before killing her. Later having a sexual relationship with Vicky, he decides to use her as well as a prostitute to gain money, but kills her when he finds out her husband is the District Attorney.
- .hack//G.U.: Sakaki—real name Tooru Uike—is a brilliant, sociopathic ten-year-old who slips from wanting to use AIDA for the benefit of mankind, to a revenge-driven, would-be tyrant as his hatred of Hasao consumes him. Infecting his followers with AIDA to bend them to his will, Sakaki strings along one suicidal girl by playing to her insecurities and even uses AIDA to mentally assault her and bring out the power of her Epitaph. Enraged by his losses, Sakaki allows himself to be infected with AIDA and in his frenzy puts together a tournament in which players must kill each other for his own blood thirst.
- Angels of Death: Catherine "Cathy" Ward is the master of floor B3 with a love for punishing "sinners" and the cruelest of the titular Angels. As a young child, Cathy manipulated a girl, Lucy, into murdering her rivals at school. Growing up to become a prison guard, Cathy became infamous among the prisoners for her sadistic torture of them, while also abusing the now-grown-up Lucy into aiding her in her torture. In Episode 0, Cathy teams up with Doctor Daniel "Danny" Dickens to recruit killers for the Tower, showing nothing but amusement at the horrors she sees, and eventually gruesomely murders Lucy, specifically choosing Lucy as her first kill out of "love". In the main story, when Rachel "Ray" Gardner and Isaac "Zack" Foster reach her floor, Cathy forces them to play a Deadly Game. First, she straps Zack to an electric chair, shocking him repeatedly, and challenges Ray to save him; then she locks the two in a room with poison gas and challenges them to escape; and, in the anime, she makes Zack do a puzzle based off his traumatic childhood to torment him. She also reveals that she keeps several prisoners, all of whom are withered and zombie-like, in eternal torment. Finally, Cathy forces Zack to inject a drug that gives him an urge to kill, then has him chase Ray, before trying to make Ray kill Zack and trying to shoot them both. Even as a spirit, Cathy shows no remorse, instead blaming Ray for killing her and demanding she be executed by drowning.
- Bann Vaughan Kendells, the son of Arl Urien Kendells of Denerim, is a Serial Rapist and murderer of elven women who justifies his crimes by saying that elves aren't real people. When he appears in the City Elf Origin, Vaughan abducts the entire female half of a wedding party, including the protagonist if female, to be raped by him and his men. By the time the protagonist fights back, one woman has already been killed, and by the time the protagonist reaches Vaughan, their cousin, Shianni, has been raped by Vaughan and his friends. Unwilling to release his hostages, Vaughan instead tries to bribe the protagonist into letting him keep the women for the night and threaten to have his father burn the Denerim alienage to the ground. Such cruelty from Vaughan isn't an isolated incident, as the DLC prequel Leliana's Song features an overheard conversation where Vaughan is preparing to rape/torture one of his maids over a floor stain, and Valendrian tells of an elven dockworker's daughter who was kidnapped by Vaughan and found dead floating in the water a few days later.
- Forest of Drizzling Rain: The first Ogami-san, though seen as the hero of old who protected the village, is in fact behind the Kotori Obake's horrific past. To satisfy his lust under the guise of punishing criminals who defied the laws of the village, the first Ogami-san created a system where their wives and children would be sold into sexual slavery, imprisoning them in a dungeon to hide their suffering from the villagers. After falling in lust with an unnamed village woman, he falsely accused her of manipulating men to commit crimes so he could slaughter her husband and son, then imprison her in the dungeon, as "punishment" for her non-existent crimes. He and his men raped and impregnated her, mocking her all the while, then killed the fetus to make her suffer even more, ultimately leading to her snapping and becoming the Kotori Obake who would eventually murder them all in revenge. Despite portraying himself as a hero working for the goodness of the village, the first Ogami-san is rightfully described by one of his descendants as being nothing but a hateful tyrant.
- The House in Fata Morgana: Lord Jean-François Barnier is responsible for Morgana becoming the Big Bad. Barnier purchased her at 11 years old, first meeting her with a harem of underaged girls. For her holy saint's blood, Barnier restrains and cuts her for him and other members of the nobility to drink and, while she is restrained, tricks her into eating human flesh. Torturing and killing his own slaves at his leisure, Barnier routinely mocks Morgana to further break her, and when her health begins to deteriorate, simply tries to kill her. He also kills Ceren, the closest thing to a loved one he has, because she disobeyed his order simply for a chance to kill his attacker.
- "What If Harley Quinn Was In Batman 89?
": The Joker, real name Jack Napier, commits many of the same crimes his canon counterpart does, such as releasing Smilex on Gotham City; gassing the museum to be alone with Vicky Vale; trying to spray Vicky with his acid; and gassing the crowd at the parade. Instead of his original brutalization of Alicia, he instead mutilates and psychologically tortures his lover, mob therapist Dr. Harleen Quinzel, and turns her into Harley Quinn, who he has kill a hostage for him. Eventually wanting Vicky instead though, the Joker tries to murder Harley by pushing her from the balcony, and reacts with joyful indifference later on when she confronts him about it.
- BioShock/Total Drama crossover Total Drama Raptured: J.S. Steinman is a plastic surgeon who, like his canon self, becomes a Serial Killer obsessed with his own twisted idea of beauty and perfection. Arriving in Rapture, Steinman would begin to brutally mutilate and murder stray Splicers before he decides to kidnap innocent civilians to perform his surgeries on. During these processes he would use ADAM keep his victims alive and in pain for long periods of time, after slicing their faces off to keep as trophies. The numerous bodies of Steinman's victims can be found at his Medical Pavilion by the time teenagers Cody, Courtney, Gwen, and Noah arrive there with one corpse on his operating table severely mutilated. Steinman also nearly kills the four teens several times and straps Gwen to his operating table where attempts to slice her face off before killing her.
- Life is Strange (first game) fanfic Life has No Meaning Without You: Mark Jefferson, despite being a Starter Villain here, is just as bad, if not worse, than his game counterpart. In addition to his canon crimes of running the Dark Room operation, using Nathan Prescott as his lackey, Jefferson is also portrayed as a Serial Rapist who sexually assaults his victims, one of whom is Kate Marsh. Exposed by Nathan, the police and David track down the Dark Room just as he's kidnapped and victimizing Victoria, with Jefferson opening fire on the cops when caught. Despite his death earlier in the story, both Victoria and Max repeatedly suffer from PTSD induced nightmares from their time in the Dark Room, causing Max to Self-Harm in her sleep and nearly kill herself. Later in the story, Nathan's testimony reveals the sordid details of their operation, and how Jefferson lied about Nathan being the one who overdosed Rachel Amber. Even in an Alternate Timeline where the game's events were erased, Jefferson remains as much a monster as he is in the game.
- Life Is Strange 2 fanfic Child of the Eclipse: Lisbeth Fischer, though already loathsome in canon, becomes a true monster here. The leader of the Haven Point cult, Lisbeth used a prophecy of an incoming apocalypse to indoctrinate others into her teachings. Upon encountering Daniel Diaz, she draws him into the cult, manipulating him into becoming the centerpiece, before using him to initiate her endgame; the final atonement ceremony, wherein she and Nicholas stab Daniel, then shoot him to get him to unleash his powers, resulting in the churchgoers all dying at once, including the child Sarah. Finally, having successfully engineered a mass Murder-Suicide, Lisbeth prepares to stab Daniel in the heart, making it clear that she only viewed him as a "wicked" tool to be used, and tells him that he and the rest of Earth will burn.
Edited by ACW on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:45:35 AM
Yoh what's up with this awkward first line in the I Spy entry.
The aforementioned Arnold Gundars is a notorious Arms Dealer who made his fortune by selling weapons to criminals and terrorists; the aforementioned Zhu Tam is a terrorist sent by his country's government to purchase the Switchblade. After acquiring the Switchblade, Gundars organizes a private party in his residence to gather the worst criminals on the planet and hold a secret auction to sell the plane to one of them. When some agents of the Bureau of National Security are sent to retrieve the plane, Gundars bribes the aforementioned Rachel Wright to help him get rid of the others. Ultimately, Gundars decides to sell the Switchblade to Tam, a ruthless terrorist who plans to bomb Washington D.C., with the former willingly giving the latter everything he needs
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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~ACW: Oh, speaking of, please change the link in the Mark Jefferson entry to the page Life has No Meaning Without You that I created.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
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ACW: Here is my slightly revised entry for Jefferson:
- Life is Strange fanfic Life has No Meaning Without You: Mark Jefferson, despite being a Starter Villain here, is just as bad, if not worse, than his game counterpart. In addition to his canon crimes of running the Dark Room operation, using Nathan Prescott as his lackey, Jefferson is also portrayed as a Serial Rapist who sexually assaults his victims, one of whom is Kate Marsh. Exposed by Nathan, the police and David track down the Dark Room just as he's kidnapped and victimizing Victoria, with Jefferson opening fire on the cops when caught. Despite his death earlier in the story, both Victoria and Max repeatedly suffer from PTSD induced nightmares from their time in the Dark Room, causing Max to Self-Harm in her sleep and nearly kill herself. Later in the story, Nathan's testimony reveals the sordid details of their operation, and how Jefferson lied about Nathan being the one who overdosed Rachel Amber. Even in an Alternate Timeline where the game's events were erased, Jefferson remains as much a monster as he is in the game.
I say slightly because all I really did was specify the story as a fic of the first game and move Mark’s name to the beginning.
Also, for Mai-Otome, feel free to pothole Auguste however you like, because I am drawing a blank.
Edited by MasterN on Feb 17th 2020 at 9:34:39 AM
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button
And I agree with Miraculous; for I Spy, please change the first line to this:
- The aforementioned Arnold Gundars and Zhu Tam are, respectively, a notorious Arms Dealer who made his fortune by selling weapons to criminals and terrorists, and a terrorist sent by his country's government to purchase the Switchblade.
Edited by MasterN on Feb 17th 2020 at 9:46:22 AM
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
to the Indominus. No matter how sadistic she is, she's still ultimately an animal.
She is:
I think no animal villain can be considered a CM no matter how sentient and malicious can it be. Unless of course we are talking about Koba but he can even talk so that's entirely different.
Edited by MovieFan2000 on Feb 17th 2020 at 10:15:02 AM
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We have several animal keepers. It's just that they talk. In fact most animals in them talk. Like Barnyard. Which has a CM.
Edited by Bullman on Feb 17th 2020 at 12:16:15 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

Abstain Ghost. His motivation seems to be similar to Raoul Silva from Skyfall and Being Tortured Makes You Evil is on the film's page.
Edited by k410ren on Feb 17th 2020 at 9:05:14 AM
"I'll show you the Dark Side." CM actors and kills