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Mike. What happens to him?

BTW, back to Juntao: What makes his strapping the girl to the bomb not enough? That one act goes beyond generic action movie villainy IMO.

edited 5th Dec '17 7:20:57 AM by ACW

I think it's because that's the only thing that made him stand out all that much.

Also Mike Weissman, assuming most of the rapes aren't Offstage Villainy.

edited 5th Dec '17 7:32:17 AM by Tyk5919

Thing is, IMO anyway, one thing can be enough. Charles Rane killing a guy For the Evulz; Sean Miller killing a guard who had helped him. Unless our standards have evolved?

edited 5th Dec '17 7:32:56 AM by ACW

Juntao did kill Lee's partner and blow up a building with police squads in it. At this point, I think that's grasping at straws.

Oh, and yes to the proposed villains.

I'll Juntao. Not the WORST villain, but does enough to count.

@ACW: I get that. But doing just one thing, unless it's something gratuitously horrible (I know Scrags talked about that one killer who raped and tortured a girl for three months before sending the body parts to her family) isn't really all that much for a CM. Unless their behavior or other aspects make them stand out. That's always why this trope will be YMMV.

I mean I've seen Rush Hour at least six times in my life. Him strapping a bomb to Soo-Yung is bad, if not blatant Moral Event Horizon. But that's kind of it. Plus I thought that Sang was the one who blew up those FBI guys?

edited 5th Dec '17 7:39:16 AM by Tyk5919

Mike is killed by Shipley soon after his true nature is revealed as an unrepentant rapist.

Indeed, on that we can agree about it always being YMMV.

@ACW: No. Phage did nothing like that. I was referring to the qualifier I brought up from Carnosaur (still hate that movie).

Also yeah, those photos. I do like the New 52!Mongul one. Not sure about the Thousand. It looks more like Body Horror if anything.

Mike

Go ahead man. Take it.

edited 5th Dec '17 8:01:00 AM by miraculous

Yes to the Empire duo. And I'll ask again since no one answered me the first time: does anyone mind me snagging the Mega Man 11 discussion date on the off-chance we get a candidate worth talking about?

Go for it.

@Fried Warthog I'll ditto on what Tyk and miraculous said....Go for the discussion m8! No one's gonna stop you

Oh, sorry for not commenting on your desire to reserve Megamun. I just assume if no one objects that's good enough.

Polar Phantom: no need to apologize! I ought to be the one apologizing since looking back, I probably sounded whiny/passive aggressive. I just wanted to get some confirmation so I don't step on anyone's toes just in case they wanted to cover it.

Honestly, for the Strain? For the Master, I think we can just add that "after taking over New York, the Master slowly slips further into madness and fury and in an attempt to get to Ephraim and the others, decides to end his 'facade of cooperation,' unleashing his strigoi to kill the entire human population 'borough by borough' until he has found his enemies.' Eichhorst I think we can leave as is. Alright, some rewrites:

• Dean Koontz's Frankenstein: Dr. Victor Frankenstein himself, the Big Bad of the first trilogy, is a chillingly evil mad scientist obsessed with creating a new 'master race' to replace humanity. Having abused and abandoned his first creation Deucalion, Frankenstein creates new and improved models that see him as their father and their God, also creating wives for himself only to inevitably grow bored with them or enraged at a minor defect before murdering and replacing them. Indulging in pointless cruelties, such as eating baby mice he boils alive just to experience the height of sensation, Frankenstein plots to wipe out all normal human beings and replace them with his own 'improved' race to reign over them like a god forever.

• The Devil's Backbone: The ruthless Jacinto is revealed as the murderer of the ghost boy Santi. Jacinto begins delving further into darkness when he is consumed by greed as he tries to steal gold that will go to fund the Republican loyalists against Franco. Burning the orphanage to try to kill everyone within and get to the safe containing the gold, Jacinto callously murders his own girlfriend Conchita before he returns to steal his treasure. Upon encountering all the boys there, he tries to kill them as well without any hint of remorse just to feed his bottomless greed.

• City Hunter: The BMW Devil is a Serial Killer in the early chapters of the manga who drives an expensive car to abduct, rape and then murder young women which is the unfortunate fate that befall's one woman's sister, prompting her to seek out the City Hunter, Ryo Saeba. Upon learning of Ryo's involvement, the Devil murders his one accomplice before trying to murder Ryo as well. Boasting he plans to double his body count, then double it again and again, the Devil attempts to rape his last victim's sister before Ryo interferes. The Devil furiously attacks them both, furious with them for interfering with his 'pleasure.'

• DXD: Rizevim Livan Lucifer, son of Lucifer and Lilith, is a hedonistic, wicked devil who believes Devils are meant to be beings of pure evil. To that end, he convinced his son to horribly abuse his own son Vali, using his son's wife as a hostage for that purpose. Rizevim then murdered his own son and abandoned Vali. Returning upon learning of Trihexa, the beast of the apocalypse, Rizevim seeks to use it to destroy the world and rule over what's left. Attacking the vampire race and also heaven to kill as much as he can in pursuit of the Grails to free Trihexa, Rizevim also abuses and tries to murder the gentle Asia Argento. When he is finally killed, Rizevim even uses his own soul as a means to unleash Trihexa, determined to take all creation to death with him.

• Metal Armor Dragonar: General Dorchenov is a high-ranking, brutal member of the Giganos Empire who pushes his leader Marshal Guiltorre to worse deeds, including advocating for a group of Earthling demonstrators to be massacred. When he reveals his superweapon, the Lava Gun, to cause mass casualties on earth, a disgusted Guiltorre rebukes him, resulting in Dorchenov murdering him, framing the heroic Giganos pilot Meio Plato of the crime and seizing control of the Giganos empire. Dorchenov proceeds to brutalize the earth, ordering as much death be brought to he planet as possible. When he loses the advantage, he orders his own men to initiate suicidal tactics and takes advantage of an attempted cease-fire to kill even more of earth's forces, taking the hero Kaine's mother hostage to gain a greater advantage, admitting he cares nothing for the cause of Giganos as long as he can win in the end.

• Wicked City: Mr. Shadow is the leader of the Black World terrorists. Launching a series of terrorist attacks to prevent the peace treaty between Black World and human world from going into effect and kill the signatory Giuseppe Mayart, Mr. Shadow even bombs a huge plane with all lives on board being lost. When the Black World heroine protecting Mayart, his ex-lover Makie, is captured, Mr. Shadow proceeds to have her gang-raped and broadcasts it to the humans as a cold reminder of what happens to 'traitors' before he intends to execute her personally. Finally, he attempts to have Makie and her human partner Taki killed, solely to spark off a war where he can see humanity subjugated to their rightful' place.

• Red Queen's War: The ruthless necromancer Edris Dean is a servant of The Lady Blue who masterminds a series of cruel attacks to create the 'Unborn,' murdering pregnant women to damn the souls of their unborn children to hell where they will become powerful undead beings to be unleashed on the world, the fate that befalls the wife and unborn baby of the Viking hero Snorri. It is also revealed that when the hero Jalan was young, Edris Dean nearly killed him and murdered his pregnant mother to turn his unborn sister into the strongest Unborn ever seen. Torturing and murdering a friend of Jalan's to obtain the Liar's Key that can help reshape the world, Edris later enslaves the soul of Jalan's sister to get her to kill her brother to help tear a hole through reality which could kill countless people in the cities. Ostensibly on board with the Lady Blue's Plan to usher in the apocalypse to become gods, Edris Dean murders the men she assigned to him to turn them into undead slaves, trying to kill Jalan to hijack the plan and become the new god of all creation.

• Justice League: Steppenwolf, military commander of Apokolips, had burned countless worlds where he came to earth, killing millions and raising them as monstrous Parademons, before he tasted defeat. Returning thousands of years later, Steppenwolf seeks to recover the lost Mother Boxes to enact his plan of wiping out life on earth to turn it into a blasted hellscape like his own homeworld, hoping to offer earth to his master Darkseid and end his exile. Massacring the Amazon warriors guarding their Mother Box and later doing the same to the Atlanteans, Steppenwolf captures humans who may know of the third, killing them when they don't have the info he wants and preparing to torture another until he talks. When the newly formed Justice League moves to stop him, Steppenwolf puts his plan into motion and unleashes his forces on civilians, intending to annihilate all life on earth to erase the memory of his past failure.

• Frontier: Lord Benton is the governor of the Hudson Bay Company who seeks to dominate the fur trade. To this end, he arrests his predecessor on trumped of charges and has him murdered before ruling the local town like a tyrant, antagonizing the local Cree peoples. Benton initiates a string of murders and torture to set the Lakewalker Cree against the French-Canadians in a war to wipe out or weaken the so he can take control of the trade. Upon capturing his arch-nemesis Declan Harp, whose wife and daughter he tortured and killed, Benton tortures him, mocking him the whole while before attempting to have him executed. When his own superiors send soldiers to deal with him, Benton sequesters and attempts to starve them to death, showing his only allegiances are to his own ambition.

• The Punisher: Agent Orange, real name William Rawlins, is a sadistic CIA agent who was the mastermind of Operation Cerberus in Afghanistan, sending special forces to torture and kill targets. In reality, Rawlins used it to his own benefit and when an honest Afghan officer named Zubair learned the truth, Rawlins framed him, abducted, tortured and murdered him while continuing to enrich himself via heroin smuggling. Upon receiving accolades and a potential promotion to deputy CIA director, Rawlins sought to close loose ends by having the remaining Cerberus squad members murdered while also planning the mass shootout that killed Frank Castle's family alongside many other innocents. When he learns that David "Micro" Lieberman, who knew of Zubair's murder, had faked his death, Rawlins kidnaps and tries to murder Micro's wife and children along with him to tie up the end. Upon capturing Castle, Rawlins, his career in tatters, attempts to brutally torture him to death, ranting that Castle and even Rawlins' own subordinate Russo, are just 'grunts' who exist to serve men like him. A sadist with a god-complex, Rawlins stops at nothing to always come out on top and destroy those he can.

edited 5th Dec '17 8:46:26 AM by Lightysnake

Cool. Should Rizevim just go at the end of the DXD tree?

Also, should we now put Ludendorff and Steppenwolf under a DC Extended Universe tree?

edited 5th Dec '17 8:56:59 AM by ACW

Sure to both

yeah High School DXD villains go in order of appearance. So assuming Loki and kokabiel also count they would go before Diodora and rizevim respectively.

So lighty do they count as I think G editor, Elfen and me all asked that.

edited 5th Dec '17 9:07:22 AM by miraculous

I don't think Kokabiel, at least, does. Loki...I lean no for now

For the Justice League entry, I had noticed some odd wording. With "Steppenwolf, military commander of Apokolips, had burned countless worlds," I feel that the sentence should be "before he came to Earth, killing millions and raising them as monstrous Parademons, before he tasted defeat." Though that's just me.

ok hi everyone.

It has been two weeks since Planet of the Apes: Last Frontier released, and I was quite surprised that they released all the episodes at once.

Anyhow for CM candidates, no one counts. The game is designed to be morally unclear with choices determined by the player. While there are clear villains whose actions wont change regardless, just how evil things get is dependent on their relationship with the player. Of the three clear villains, Tola's initial argument of not hunting on the mountain is not entirely unarguable, there isn't much food on a mountain, and his desire is motivated by his father's death, and it is only really towards the end that he goes off the deep end, and entirely depending on the player's choices, he could have a good relationship with Bryn. Reeves has a special Freudian Excuse in that he lost his daughter to an ape and there is a scar on his cheek to prove it, so his actions are understandable, and Willis actually listens to Jess and is actually quite friendly, only really turning evil at the very end of the game. So now, nobody counts in the new Apes game.

New EP:

What is the Work?

Jane Got a Gun is a 2016 western film starring Natalie Portman as Jane, a Determined Homesteader who winds up having to ask her ex-fiancé (Joel Edgerton) for help when her former outlaw husband runs afoul of his former gang.

Who is the proposed character?

John Bishop (Ewan McGregor) is the leader of a group of vicious bandits.

‘’’What Does He Do?’’’

Bishop is introduced strangling a fur trader for not having information to offer about the whereabouts of Jane and her husband Bill Hammond, a former member of his gang. Jane meets with Bishop, who tells her he knows nothing about what happened to Ham (her husband’s nickname) when Ham showed up earlier riddled with bullet holes. Bishop sends one of his men to accost Jane in an alleyway, who attempts to rape her, but the man winds up getting killed when her neighbor Dan Frost gets into an argument with him, Jane grabs a gun, and kills the henchman. Jane and Dan flee.

Back at Jane’s house, As Jane and Frost prepare for Bishop’s attack on her house, there are some flashbacks to Jane and Frost’s past. Here, the audience learns that Jane, who had a daughter named Mary, left their hometown in a wagon train led by Bishop. Bishop’s intention was to force the women on the wagon train to become prostitutes. Ham had taken a shine to Jane, but Bishop refused, referring to Jane as “property”. Ham deserted Bishop and rescued Jane from the brothel, killing four of Bishop’s men in the process.

When the gang attacks, Bishop, intent on taking Jane as well, sacrifices most of his men in a minefield and kills Ham in the process. When Jane gets the drop on Bishop, she shoots him until he reveals where her daughter is before shooting him in the head.

Freudian Excuse or Mitigating Circumstances?

None for Freudian Excuse. As for Mitigating Circumstances, he does tell Jane where her daughter is, but it’s mostly to keep himself alive.

Heinousness?

He’s the Big Bad, he sets it. Forcing the women of an entire town into prostitution is pretty frickin’ bad.

Conclusion?

Keep. Never would have thought Obi-wan Kenobi could play a villain.

Edited by k410ren on Nov 3rd 2019 at 11:05:59 AM

Bishop