During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.
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It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM
- Absolution: Rubicon: The Polymath, real name Arthur Blankenship, is a creatively psychopathic supervillain with a love for mass slaughter. After being locked up for going on a rampage through a city, the Polymath is given a deal to kill John Dusk in exchange for his freedom, but immediately breaks the deal after being released, proceeding instead to go on another killing spree. During this spree, the Polymath rips people in half, strings them up by their insides, uses buses and cars as swinging or throwing objects, and brutalizes before attempting to rape a heroine who shows up to stop him. Claiming well above 800 lives in this massacre, the Polymath later brutally murders a small family, before viciously butchering an entire apartment building, with decapitations, bisections, and live skinnings being just some of the kills he gets up to. When confronted by Dusk, the Polymath boasts about all the men, women, children, and pets he's killed, and, even when seemingly beaten, the Polymath decides to take the entire city of millions down with him. Serving as the prime example of villainy that Dusk has decided to show no mercy to any longer, the Polymath made his mark as the most depraved murderer in the comic.
- Bedlam, by Nick Spencer et al.: Before being brutally tortured, lobotomized, and reconstituted into becoming the pacifistic hero "Fillmore Press", Madder Red was a sickeningly sadistic psychopath with nothing driving him beyond his base lust for chaos and evil, and a desire to prove that, deep down, all of humanity could be just as wicked as himself. As the worst terror the city of Bedlam ever faced, Madder Red spent the better part of three years torturing, maiming, and killing his way to a status of legendary infamy, claiming over two thousand victims throughout his career. Notable instances of his random cruelty include gunning down numerous innocents at a religious gathering after decapitating two of the church leaders, massacring an entire restaurant filled with dozens of people to make sure he gets "good service", and brutalizing his Arch-Enemy, the First, with a baseball bat. In his so-called greatest achievement, Madder Red slaughtered an entire opera house of defenseless civilians, including a class of elementary school children whose blood he proceeded to play in; disemboweled, posed, and violated the corpses, then slit the the throat of the only surviving little girl in front of the First just to anger him. Madder Red then reveals, after being caught, that if he's not dead within one hour, his associates will detonate bombs located in six schools across the city and kill hundreds of children and adults alike. Combining a darkly hilarious humor with a sadistic love of depravity, Madder Red was an unrepentant fiend who many tried to discount as a simple thug or terrorist solely to keep the public from seeing him as what he truly was: A devil-like monster with nary an excuse or reason for his crimes beyond a lust for degeneracy across the world.
- Death Sentence: David "Monty" Montgomery is a depraved, hedonistic comedian who ends up infected by the incurable G+ virus. Now with the powers of hypnosis and telekinesis, Monty decides to make the most of his last months on Earth. Initially using his powers to force a nun into sleeping with him—not an isolated incident—Monty quickly thereafter rapes and murders the Queen of England before telekinetically blowing up the skulls of the Royal Family and proclaiming himself King of England. After hypnotizing an entire battalion of soldiers numbering in the hundreds to kill themselves—and forcing seventy of the survivors to shoot themselves—Monty decapitates the Prime Minister to secure total reign over England. Monty quickly lavishes in his new position and turns London into his own private hellhole, influencing millions through public broadcast to engage in whatever depraved pursuits they want out in the streets while using his powers to pursue further sexual fantasies. Monty further engrosses himself by blowing up the heads of an entire crowd of people simply for annoying him, and once he learns a naval fleet has been sent out to stop him, Monty murders over a million people—children not spared—in one fell swoop, using his telekinetic abilities to extend his range. Monty hypnotizes the captain to rape one of his own men before making the entire armada kill itself, finally necessitating a nuke dropped on central London purely for the purpose of wiping him out. Even after all the carnage and millions adoring him under his influence—and millions more dead—Monty admits he still isn't satisfied in the end. A degenerate narcissist who thoroughly undermines anything that could be considered a humane quality within him, Monty represents a picture of what a psychopath with no other resources might become with the powers to exercise whatever they might have wanted.
- Lament of the Lost Moors:
- First Cycle: Mage Bedlam is The Usurper king of Eruin Duela. After breaking a pact of peace, he warred with and killed his half-Brother Wulf the White Wolf and cursed the battlefield. His secret alter ego Lord Blackmore marries Wulf's widow with the promise of keeping her and Wulf's daughter Sioban safe. He repeatedly wounds and rapes his wife, and attempts to kill her by setting fire to the bedroom. He also had an entire clan decimated out of rivalry and keeps their skulls in a chest. Realizing that the young Sioban is the one destined to dethrone him, he tries several times to kill her. When one of his men dares to criticizes him, he forces him to eat a magical bud that sprouts in him. Finally, he launches his army on his castle with the intentions of killing massacring the inhabitants, and when his niece Sioban rejects his offer to marry him, he once again tries to dispose of her.
- Second Cycle:
- Moriganes: Aube is the Wicked Witch who terrorizes the population of the moors of Glen Sarrick. She first set up a trap for the Warriors of Mercy by placing a giant snake around the body of a knight she just killed. The knights also find out that she killed a couple and their child in their home. She is next seen throwing a large amount of human bones off a cliff. She later enters a church, burns the hand of a priest and collapses the building on the bystanders. When the witch hunter Monk tries to bait her, she sends another snake to kill him. Seeing the knights coming to the Dylfel castle, she gleefully plans to make chalk out of their bones. It is soon revealed that she was assisting her mistress the Morigane Diane de Hartwick in the murder of Eryk of Dylfel.
- Sill Valt: The Lady with the stoat fur coat disappointed with her crippled daughter Guinea pledged allegiance to the Moriganes in exchange for a magical armor that would give her strength and endurance so she can pretend Guinea is a strong man then forced her to serve the Moriganes. Luring men by the dozen to her castle, she picks one and leaves the others at the door where they cry and are tormented by the demonic guard Perrock nights and days until they starve. She then spends several nights with her lovers until she kills them. When the knight Sill Valt comes to her castle to confront the Guinea Lord, she uses her charms on him and requests her daughter to prepare a coffin for him. She forces herself on him for two nights then gives him a poisonous bite for defying her order not to look at her. When Guinea stands against her mother to save Sill Valt, she furiously attacks her and mortally wounds her.
- The Mice Templar: Even for a series that thrives off Grey-and-Gray Morality, there are still a few villains who stand out for being incredibly vicious.
- Captain Tosk is the leader of King Icarus's Rat Guard army. With thousands of rats at his disposal, Tosk leads his army from village to village, where he and his rats slaughter anyone in sight and round up all the survivors so they can be used for slaves in Icarus's palace. During Tosk's raid at Cricket's Glen, he fights and kills exiled Templar Master Deishun and personally cuts off Leito's arm before transporting the survivors to Icarus's palace. After the slaves are freed by Karic and Cassius, and Tosk is reassigned to Dealrach Ard-Vale, Tosk goes against his superiors' orders and leaves the city, longing to raze more villages. When he captures another group of slaves, Tosk has some of the mice run through a nursery of baby rats, both so he can watch as they're Devoured by the Horde, and also so he can indoctrinate a new generation of rats into hating mice. Upon discovering that one of his lieutenants betrayed him and tried to free a group of mice, Tosk orders the mice to club the lieutenant to death instead of giving the lieutenant a merciful execution. Even after the mice comply with Tosk's demands, he forces the mice to run through the nursery, telling them that they can now "run free." A vicious Blood Knight who craves violence, Tosk cares about nothing but killing as many mice as possible, even if it means defying orders or murdering his fellow soldiers.
- Boris the Torturer, the Torture Technician of King Icarus's empire, thrives off experimenting in his "craft." When first introduced, he's interrogating a prisoner by burning her with heated tongs while he's nonchalantly talking to Captain Tosk. When Boris isn't torturing or experimenting on prisoners, he's choosing them to be sacrificed for the Druid priests, where the victims are impaled very slowly with a Templar blade. When Leito and the other mice from Cricket's Glen try to escape their dungeon, Boris orders his guards to recapture them and spare as many as possible so they can be used for future sacrifices or torture. Boris tries to find the ringleader behind their attempted escape so he can punish him accordingly, but ends up choosing Harad instead of Leito; Boris punishes Harad by gouging out his only eye. During the Samhain festival, Boris picks twelve prisoners to be Eaten Alive by a Serpent God—including Karic's entire family—but spares Leito for the sake of his own amusement.
- Pilot the Tall is a fallen Templar who betrayed his Templar brethren and pledged allegiance to King Icarus. Working under Tosk's command, he spent twelve seasons finding exiled Templars so Tosk and Icarus's army could hunt them down and kill them. He's also responsible for the destruction of Cricket's Glen and Master Deishun's demise. After being rescued by Karic and learning about his encounter with the Fish Gods, he agrees to take him to the Great Ash Tree—not for the sake of helping him fulfill his prophecy, but to use Karic as a trump card to prolong his life. When his plans fail, he goes back to King Icarus to try and get back in his inner circle, only to be denied and thrown into his dungeon. He later escapes Icarus's palace with Leito and Harad, where he brainwashes Leito into hating Karic and murders Harad once he grows suspicious of him. At the final battle, he and Leito meet with a small group of mice and sneak back into Icarus's palace through a secret tunnel. When bats storm the tunnel, he convinces Leito to leave the other mice to die, and later orders Leito to attack Karic once they finally confront each other. When Leito discovers that he was deceived, he tries to flee, only to run into Cassius. Even after he is beaten by Cassius and is on the floor pleading for mercy, he waits until Cassius turns his back before he stabs and nearly kills him. Manipulative, cowardly, and only concerned about his own survival, he stands out as a creature with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
- Soul Eater fanfiction Soul Eater: Troubled Souls: Medusa Gorgon is just as bad as she is canonically. In the past, she coerced Crona into murdering a helpless old man and later an Evil Human implied to be Crona’s father. Surviving her supposed end in the anime's Baba Yaga Castle invasion by splitting her soul, she usurps the body of a pauper "nobody cares about", formulates her plan of action behind the scenes, and later becomes an early Arc Villain. She infiltrated the peaceful Yufahla Village and kidnapped a young woman named Krysa, killing her mother in the process. She brainwashed Krysa and used outlawed magic on Atlas to enhance her subterfuge, uncaring of the details or consequences. Lastly, Medusa gets her younger sister, Shaula, involved, and her treatment of her is no different. When Shaula fails to destroy Death Weapon Meister Academy from the inside, Medusa betrays her and tries to claim her soul to power up Ouroboros. It fails, but by then she has already ushered Maka Albarn and her friends to Cobra Island through a fake mission. Despite neither party knowing each other, she also has Caius, Claudia, the Ricardsens, and the Ardsens brought along and treats them with the same cruelty as the people she knows. To make matters worse, those innocent people literally could have been anyone else. As they advance, Ouroboros removes a power or characteristic that effectively renders the person useless; Medusa figures that out by forcing them to play rigged games. Remorseless and reveling in everyone’s suffering, Medusa wanted revenge and to control Madness itself so she could Take Over the World.
- Amen: "The Doctor" is a superficially charming man who's a high-ranking Nazi SS officer intimately involved in the extermination policies of the Hitler regime. At first he personally selects German patients at mental asylums to be killed, smiling at his oblivious victims—many of them children—before sending them away to be gassed. One of those killed is the niece of his later colleague Kurt Gerstein, a conscientious SS officer who is horrified by the use of his chemicals to exterminate people instead of pests. The Doctor enthusiastically takes part in the planning and execution of The Holocaust, eventually taking up a position in a death camp. When the Jesuit priest Riccardo Fontana protests the Pope's decision to stay silent about the mass murder of Jews by allowing himself to be taken to the camp, the Doctor notes that he'll be the one to "decide who is a Jew", before forcing Father Fontana to work in the crematoria to break his spirit. Gerstein tries to secure the priest's release by falsifying papers from Himmler, but the Doctor instead has Father Fontana killed and orders Gerstein's arrest. The Doctor's only regret at the end of the war as he secures safe passage to Argentina for himself through the Vatican is that he couldn't kill more people after already sending thousands to their deaths.
- The Bye Bye Man: In this adaptation of "Bridge to Body Island" note by Robert Damon Schneck, the eponymous Bye Bye Man is a demonic entity of unknown origin. With a nightmarish hound at his side, the Bye Bye Man actively listens for the utterance of his name. Once summoned, the Bye Bye Man inflicts horrific delusions on his victims culminating in them committing vile crimes before killing themselves. During the 1960s, the Bye Bye Man manipulates a teenage boy into massacring his family; when Larry Redmon—a reporter for a local newspaper—drills him for answers, he becomes the Bye Bye Man's next target. Tormented by the dark figure, Larry, in an effort to suppress the spreading of the Bye Bye Man's name, murders his friends before committing suicide. Years later, the Bye Bye Man takes an interest in Elliot after he reads writing underneath a nightstand. When Kim was called to expel the evil presence, the Bye Bye Man lures her into the direction of an oncoming train. Among other atrocities, the Bye Bye Man drives a librarian into murdering her own children. Assuming that by expressing no fear he had power over the Bye Bye Man, Elliot returns to the house only to discover John attempting to stab Sasha, and is horrified to discover that he accidentally killed his own girlfriend. The Bye Bye Man tries to force Elliot into saying his name, fully intending on making his older brother and his niece his next victims. With no discernible reason for what he does, the Bye Bye Man takes pleasure in exercising his powers on unsuspecting people.
- Hellbound: Hellraiser II: Dr. Phillip Channard is a psychiatrist and head of the Channard Institute with an obsession with the occult, specifically Hell. Using his facility for the as front for his studies, he has his patients solve the Lament Configuration, and observes them being taken by the Cenobites. When he gets his hands on the mattress Julia Cotton died on, Channard takes his patients to be sacrificed to complete Julia's resurrection. In return, Julia takes Channard to Hell where Leviathan looks into his mind, revealing that he would dissect animals as a child. Channard is turned into an abnormally chaotic cenobite, he drops his affable façade and revels in his sadistic one, proceeding to slaughter every living thing that crosses his path, also killing the other Cenobites when they stand against him. It's also discovered that Hell is beginning to crossover with Earth due to Channard giving his patients their own puzzle boxes.
- Death's Embrace DLC: While the main Algol is just an ineffectual Grimleal, this Outrealm version is far more monstrous. Part of an evil cult, he is in the business of assassination. He grew tired of normal humans constantly failing him thanks to their inherent weaknesses, leaving him with a desire to create the perfect assassins. To that end, Algol dabbled in necromancy, finding the dead to be more much efficient and subservient. He's had his undead assassins massacre villages, the actual number long left his memory, including the one Chrom and the Shepherds find at the start of the DLC. While the rest die away, Algol kidnaps the ones who fought the hardest and, before he converts them into Risen, he manipulates them in their dying moments to convert them to his side from beyond the grave. His victims retain a semblance of their humanity even afterwards but can do nothing but kill in service of Algol. His masterpiece, a Risen Chief, suffered a similar fate but is in a more crudely abominated state. In the ensuing fight, Algol's base of operation is lined with powerful spikes that badly hurt both the Shepherds and his "children." Though he fully intends to leave, Algol sticks around long enough to see the Shepherds suffer. A Card-Carrying Villain with boundless sadism and working off bloodlust, the alternate Algol is a surprisingly dark villain for someone so minor in the grand schemes of things, to such an extent the aftermath left the battle-hardened Chrom in a small Heroic BSoD.
- Sherlock: Jim Moriarty is the world's only "consulting criminal", lending his genius to help others commit their crimes. With his main motivations being to distract himself from his boredom and to catch the attention of Sherlock Holmes, Moriarty serves as the Overarching Villain of the first two seasons, and is behind both cases in the first two episodes. Taking center stage in "The Great Game" Moriarty sells out his clients and challenges Sherlock to solve their crimes within a certain time limit or else Moriarty will detonate bombs he strapped to innocent people, including a child, considering it a fun little "game". When one of his victims, a blind old woman, begins to describe the sound of Moriarty's voice, Moriarty detonates her bomb, killing her and eleven others. Later, in "The Reichenbach Fall", Moriarty threatens the family members of a jury to get himself declared innocent, kidnaps and poisons two children, murders his accomplice, frames Sherlock for both these and other crimes Sherlock has solved, then tries to force Sherlock to commit suicide under threat of having his loved ones assassinated. When Sherlock plans to force Moriarty to call off the killers, Moriarty merrily eats his gun to "win" his game with Sherlock. Even after his defeat, it is revealed that Moriarty made a deal with Eurus Holmes where, in the event of his death, she would lure Sherlock into a series of Sadistic Choices constructed by herself and Moriarty that would kill numerous innocents, threaten the lives of Sherlock's best friend and brother, and hopefully drive Sherlock into complete despair. Moriarty was the dark reflection of Sherlock: a sociopathic, manipulative, Evil Genius who would let nothing stand in his way to escape from his excruciating boredom.
- The Thirteenth Tale: In the 2013 BBC Film of the Book, Adeline March is the unstable and violent twin sister of Emmeline and cousin of Vida Winter, who described Adeline as "genuinely dangerous" and that "violence was always her first instinct". The twins, inseparable while growing up, had the run of the house while children and caused all sorts of havoc, which came to a head when the two pushed a baby in a carriage down a hill. When the local doctor's wife came to inquire about the incident, Adeline, who was nine years old, hit the doctor's wife in the back of the head with a violin. The twins' mother was blamed for the incident and a governess was hired to instill discipline. On the first day of school, Adeline stabbed Emmeline in the ankle with a pencil. The twins were separated for a time to see if they would improve but to no avail; when the girls were reunited, Adeline gave Emmeline a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown. When the three girls were 17, Adeline murdered two of the servants, Missus and John-the-dig; the former For the Evulz, the latter because he acted as a mentor to Vida. Shortly afterwards, Emmeline was impregnated by Ambrose Proctor, a local boy working at the house. Despite her bond with her sister, Adeline attempted to murder Emmeline's baby twice, forcing Vida to hide him in the village. In her attempts to murder the boy, Adeline set the house on fire, prompting the normally docile Emmeline to go on the attack for the first time in her life. In the ensuing fight, Vida was forced to lock Adeline in the burning room to save herself and Emmeline. Adeline was willing to cross any line to receive attention and didn't care who she hurt in the process, with her actions casting shadows to the present.
- Supreme Power:
- Michael Redstone is a heinous Serial Killer who, after being granted superpowers, becomes one of the most evil villains the Squadron Supreme face. Even as a regular human being, Redstone's killing career began after he tortured his CO in the military for 5 hours before murdering her, just for being a woman. Following this up by becoming a murderer of prostitutes, Redstone is later experimented on by the government, who grant him superpowers. Using these powers, Redstone continues his spree, murdering several more women by ripping their limbs off and keeping them as trophies. When confronted by the hero Hyperion, Redstone flees while murdering everyone in his way, notably using a child as ammo to fling at Hyperion. After making a deal with the government, Redstone becomes a U.S. operative who is dropped into foreign countries with orders to kill as many people as possible to destabilize said countries, and, in his final appearance, Redstone holds Los Angeles hostage with a nuclear bomb, orders Hyperion to allow himself to be beaten to death lest the city be destroyed, and takes time during their duel to brutally murder innocents in various ways just to torment Hyperion. With no professed reason for his crimes beyond a love of killing, Michael Redstone was handily the most personal foe Hyperion ever faced.
- Supreme Power: Nighthawk: Whiteface, real name Stephen Binst, the Big Bad of this Spin-Off, is the most depraved man Nighthawk has ever fought against. Once a pharmacist who sought to "fill a hole of unhappiness" in his life, Whiteface developed a lethal drug that he planned to spread throughout Chicago, hoping that a massive bodycount would be enough to make him feel happy in life. Testing the compound on a poor woman and her family, he kills the entire household—including two children and a baby. Years later, having awaken from a catatonic state brought on by being assaulted, maimed, and possibly raped in prison for his deplorable crimes, Whiteface escapes confinement, kills and takes the outfit of a clown, then replaces a shipment of cocaine with his lethal drug, resulting in over 3,800 deaths of men, women, and children alike in just three days. Later poisoning the guests at a child's birthday party, resulting in numerous children's deaths, Whiteface then murders a crippled woman, a nurse, another man for his outfit, and kidnaps a baby. Traveling to a local water plant, brutally murdering 3 police officers along the way, Whiteface gleefully flings the kidnapped baby into the water processing unit, hoping for him to drown while he makes his escape from a recently-arrived Nighthawk. A sadist who believed mass murder would bring joy into his life, Whiteface, despite his lack of superpowers, stood out even among the likes of Redstone as a truly disgusting lunatic.
- Eiyuu Senki: The World Conquest: Nyarlathotep's acts include resetting the entire world on a whim countless times, pulling the Zipang army into a deranged game, randomly turning Chihaya's allies against him and threatening to kill them one by one if he doesn't play along. She also shows she's capable rewriting entire personalities on a whim, reviving fallen heroes and forcing them to fight while killing them herself if they show a sign of regaining free will, and even taking control of just their bodies while leaving their minds intact. Finally, she reveals all along that she had no intention of losing honorably and erases all of the heroes except Chihaya to prove her point. Her only motive is her own entertainment.
- Roswell Conspiracies: Many antagonists in this series are well-intentioned, tinted in gray, or otherwise redeem themselves. However, many are still irredeemably vile:
- The Aeseri twins, Odin and Loki, from "Devil Inside," are rampaging psychopaths released from the Alliance's maximum security containment unit to commit wanton havoc. Shooting down every Alliance operative that pursues them, Loki is captured and contents himself with playing sadistic mind games with Nick Logan, utilizing illusions and later attacking his way through the Alliance to commandeer one of their airships. Odin, meanwhile, makes his way to Iceland, attacking a submarine and a town in Iceland before making his way into the mountains. Once the two reunite, they reveal their ultimate plan: release and control the Frost Giant and cause an apocalyptic Ragnarok for no other reason than to thrill themselves, with Loki gleefully stating he can't wait until the two reach a populated city.
- Lord Hanek is the vampiric leader of Intracom, a powerful family of vampires disguised as a worldwide organization. Hanek is behind several of Intracom's malevolent affairs, such as burning down vast sections of the rainforest to biting and turning several innocent people into vampoid slaves. Hanek demonstrates his vileness by attempting to have the Tree of Light destroyed, which would in the process completely wipe out the Banshee Sisterhood, and turns an innocent woman into his vampoid concubine to hurt one of the Alliance's agents. Hanek truly comes into his own in his last appearance in season 2's "Showdown": to power his teleporter technology, Hanek attempts to utilize the Banshee as living generators, in the process tortuously draining the life from them and eventually killing them. Hanek endangers the life of main character Nick Logan to lure Sh'lainn and the Sisterhood into his clutches, tricks the escaped Minotauri Kahn Mort into downing a helicopter filled with his own men into a hospital, and finally forces Nick into a Sadistic Choice involving the lives of Sh'lainn and his stepfather Nathan. Always possessed of a callous sophistication in whatever situation he's in, Hanek stands miles above the other major alien antagonists in terms of depravity.
- The Shadoen agent Wraith is the Big Bad of the series and the one behind most of the plot. Stationed in Earth back in 1946 to divide the alien races and allow the Shadoen to invade and conquer the planet, Wraith immediately murders the real James Rinaker and assumes his identity, bombing a Conduit safehouse and killing several innocent aliens to pin the blame on the Alliance's co-leader Walter Logan, later trapping Walter himself in eternal stasis to take over the Alliance. As Rinaker, Wraith traps hundreds of innocent aliens in the Alliance's prison and has little compunction in arranging torture, bombings, and heavily destructive missions with little care as to who or what gets caught in the way, whilst simultaneously sabotaging several of the Alliance's missions and endangering several more lives. Wraith attempts to frame Nick as the traitor in the Alliance, and once ousted as a Shadoen agent, Wraith coldly murders Ms. Smith-Heisen once she discovers the truth. Shortly after, Wraith sics Shadoen-fire ant hybrids to kill whatever gets in their way, and rigs the entire Alliance bunker to explode and take out half of New Mexico to cover his tracks, before brutally killing Trueblood and rejoining the Shadoen fleet. Still unsatisfied with how he's being treated, Wraith tricks the Shadoen high command into being nuked by the human army and spearheads the invasion himself, ultimately resolving to destroy the moon and kill off most of humanity to conquer what remains, with his only stated regret being the loss of "breeding stock" this will incur. A traitorous, manipulative sociopath even by the standards of the world-destroying Shadoen, Wraith is one of the nastiest aliens to ever grace the series.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003) & Turtles Forever: Ch'rell is a villainous Utrom, responsible for various crimes throughout the galaxy, including causing war on other planets which resulted in millions of lives lost. Captured by his normally-peaceful people, he caused their ship to crash on Earth, stealing the identity of the late Oroku Saki, aka The Shredder. Founding the Foot Clan, Shredder spent ages hunting down the Utroms and continuing his plans for galactic conquest. Upon finding the home of the Utrom's guardian, Hamato Yoshi, Shredder personally murdered him for refusing to give their location. Shredder's further crimes in the series include kidnapping random citizens to be turned into monsters for slave labor; executed a Purple Dragon member for failure; frequent physical mutilation of Baxter Stockman until he was reduced to a Brain in a Jar; and stealing the anti-gravity generator left in Beijing from the Triceraton invasion, ignoring Karai's protests that doing so will result in millions of deaths. Constructing a ship that will help him find the Utroms, he assaulted the Turtles and Splinter to near death for continuously interfering with his plans, then assaulted Karai for trying to stop him. After being imprisoned for his crimes, Shredder, in Turtles Forever, is eventually freed by an alternate world counterpart. Taking control of the Technodrome from his saviors, Shredder learns of The Multiverse and goes mad at learning of other Ninja Turtles. He decides to find the Prime Universe to kill those Turtles, believing that will erase all Turtles from existence. His assault on that universe world erase all others from existence, but he does not care that this would include his own daughter. Upon learning their deaths will mean his own destruction, he decides his revenge is more important. Egotistical, sociopathic, and power-hungry, Shredder valued conquest and revenge enough that not even risking the end of life itself would stop him.
- Xyber 9: New Dawn: Machestro is the Evil Overlord of the Machina, and the orchestrator of all evil in the series. As the Man Behind the Man to King Renard, Machestro supplies him with all the resources and technology he needs to keep his war with the heroic Queen Tatania going, resulting in Terrana's current wasteland state, and even supplies him with a city-destroying rail gun to destroy as much of Tatania's kingdom as possible. Causing droughts, famines, and overall chaos throughout Tatania's forces with his plans, Machestro uses the ancient Hunter Claw robots to lay waste to entire cities and set crops aflame out of spite. Seeking to claim the Xyber 9 so as to blanket Terrana in never-ending darkness, then lead a full scale annihilation of the human race, Machestro tricks the Machina as a whole into believing that they are unable to live in sunlight to keep them under his thrall. In the end, Machestro tries to use the Eye of Darkness to cause an unending night, either unaware or uncaring about the fact that it will result in the deaths of all living things, himself included. Machestro was a sociopathic warmonger obsessed with total domination, and would doom the entire planet due to nothing but his own arrogance.
- Fearmaster, real name Darryl King, Punisher's Arch-Enemy, is also a mob boss; cult leader; tycoon; and a Serial Killer in his spare time. Fearmaster had his hand genetically altered and now has the power to transform living issue into anything he wants. He kidnaps young women and transforms them into statues, keeping them on display in his personal hall. We first see him turning a young woman's leg into solid bone so that she could not escape him. Fearmaster sends his minion Multi-Fractor to clear a slum populated by poor people so he can build condos, not caring if they die in the process. Fearmaster is also involved in the Alchemax program to mutate and perform medical experiments on poor people. Fearmaster begins to think Public Eye psychologist Kerry Dowenn may know who Punisher really is; Kerry is romantically involved with Punisher and is reading a file with his real name on it, when Fearmaster confronts her. Kerry manages to delete the file and Fearmaster kills her in frustration. Fearmaster eventually discovers that Punisher is really Public Eye officer Jake Gallows. Fearmaster confronts Gallows and discovers Gallows has a makeshift prison where he keeps some of the criminals he has tangled with. The prisoners ask Fearmaster to release them, but Fearmaster thinks its amusing to let them starve to death.p
edited 6th Feb '17 1:55:23 PM by ACW
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By all means, please do. Honestly, I'm vaccillating a bit on Kanehira myself. Kawashima is a FIRM yes to me, while the Professor is a solid yes too.
edited 5th Feb '17 3:33:23 PM by ACW
I'm not entirely sure what the policy is on spoilers for a CM. I can understand spoiling out bits and pieces of information, but if it's something like the Wraith, which spoilers a crucial part of the show, or Pilot the Tall, who is a Walking Spoiler and has almost all of the section spoiler-tagged, is it better to just spoiler-tag the whole thing or to only omit the parts that spoiler the crucial bits of the show, movie, book, etc.?
edited 5th Feb '17 3:30:47 PM by Tyk5919
I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
I think, for the instance of totally spoiler-tagging the entry, that totally whiting out an entry is sort of bad practice in general... I wouldn't be averse to whiting out Wraith's entry given his true identity is by far the show's most sensitive plot twist, but I'm not sure that's actually kosher when spoiling examples.
edited 5th Feb '17 3:39:27 PM by Scraggle
That's a good point....hmm. I suppose with Wraith his entry can stay as is. With Pilot, I suppose the only thing that should be whitened out is his name and the fact that he kills Harad.
Oh, one more thing... Roswell Conspiracies doesn't need an extra "Aliens, Myths, and Legends" behind it. That's already part of the link.
@ACW: Are you fine with just whitening out Pilot the Tall's name from his entry so it doesn't look like almost the whole thing is spoiler-tagged?
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All right. Go for it.
edited 5th Feb '17 4:20:59 PM by Tyk5919
I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.More vampires (and a human) incoming ... this time from a book I didn't particularly care for. I mean, it was okay-ish, but nothing spectacular.
Father Alberto Palmeri
Background: Palmeri is The Heavy in F. Paul Wilson's short story-turned-novel, Midnight Mass. (yes, the one that terrible movie is based on) He is a Pedophile Priest who was turned into a vampire by one of the primes, Gregor.
What does he do?
Before being turned, he was a pastor at St. Anthony's Church in New Jersey. He molested altar boys, and got away with it because the book's hero, Father Joe Cahill, was fingered as the sexual predator. By the time of the vampire takeover, he hid in a convent, away from the other nuns and priests, without bother to try and protect them, being too scared for his own life. After being turned, he turned up the heinous level by performing gruesome ritualistic murders in the desecrated St. Anthony's and feeding the "sacrifices" to the vampires attending his services. Finally, during his (along with a few other vamps) and the Cowboys' assault on the St. Anthony's — which had since been purified by Father Joe and his old congregation — after failing to kill Joe, he tried to convince him to allow himself to be turned in exchange for Zev's life, who he was dangling from a balcony over a wooden stake.
Freudian Excuse or other redeeming qualities?
As far as a justification for his pederasty is concerned, there is none given. Far as I'm concerned, he's just another one of the book's many stereotypical characters. However, he is shown to have a degree of remorse for molesting the altar boys when he was human, but then again, he's a priest, so that could (possibly) just because he's afraid of eternal damnation. After all, if he really felt so guilty about it, why wouldn't he try and restrain himself or turn himself in? Anyway, after his turning, any remorse he had went out the window. While that could be somewhat justified by Transhuman Treachery, the rituals he performs in the church are completely inexcusable. Most (or at least the "ferals") vampires are just content to feed and sustain themselves for a little while longer. What he does is outright murder.
What's the In-Universe heinous standard?
Here's the tricky part (never thought I'd consider anything in a novel as simplistic or generic as Midnight Mass as being "tricky"): the ferals get a free pass, because they're really little more than borderline zombies at worst, and at best, animals who need to eat. Then there's the primes, Olivia, Gregor, and Franco. Olivia is probably the flattest of the three. She has no background, aside from being French. However, she's horrified when Gregor's Cowboys — aka Vichy — throw an unconscious and brutally gang-raped Lacey (Father Joe's lesbian feminist niece) to her, so Even Evil Has Standards applies to her. Gregor is implied to have been a rapist when he was alive, and has a few misogynistic tendencies, but little information is given beyond that to qualify him as truly heinous. I'll discuss Franco momentarily.
Final Verdict:
While the heinous standard is quite high, thanks to Franco, and it's unclear just how genuine his remorse is for his pedophilia as a human, I'd have to give him a
Franco
What does he do?
Franco is the vampire king and easily the worst of the three Primes, just as bad as the Master, or Enok, to use one of my previous nominees as an example. He oversees the ranches where the surviving human women — some as young as fifteen — are rounded up and raped and impregnated by the Cowboys who earned enough "brownie points". Oh, and he feeds Joe to a mindless feral named Jason Devlin, with the intention of him becoming even more mindless than the latter. This fails when Joe is half-cooked by the sun when he's buried on the beach, and he reawakens as a sentient vampire struggling to retain his humanity for the remainder of the novel.
Freudian Excuse or other redeeming qualities?
No. There isn't much information given about the Primes, although I read a theory somewhere that they became vampires after death because of the evil they did in life.
What's the In-Universe heinous standard?
See above.
Final Verdict
Despite largely being a Non-Action Big Bad and getting his ass kicked in a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown by Joe at the end, he's still worse than any of the other Primes
BONUS LEVEL
James Barrettnote
Background:
James Barrett is a high-ranking Cowboy, and The Renfield to Franco. Unlike the other Cowboys, who are often Corrupt Hicks and dumb, horny rapists at worst, and Punch Clock Villains who are just trying to protect their families at best (the latter being an Informed Attribute. We never see any of them in the book), Barrett is a highly educated former Wall Street banker.
What does he do?
Barrett, in addition to being a Corrupt Corporate Executive who treats Franco's empire like a normal business, is a narcissist and a cannibal who studies Joe after Artemis (The Dragon to Franco) strips him, strongly considering eating him. Towards the end of the novel, when the turned Joe is about to throw Franco into the sunlight, Barrett comes out, holding Joe's friend Carole at knifepoint, threatening to kill her if Joe kills Franco, all the while trying to persuade his master to turn him.
Heinous standard
Once again, see above. However, aside from trying to convince Joe to leave humanity to its doom, the nastiest of Barrett's actions (such as the cannibalism) remain unseen.
Freudian Excuse or other redeeming factors?
Uh-uh. In fact, his intelligence — combined with his narcissism — only serves to make him worse than his counterparts, ignorant or desperate alike.
Final Verdict
Any other novel, I'd without a doubt say
But his Offscreen Villainy, coupled with the incredibly high heinous standard is more or less an instant disqualifier. So
edited 6th Feb '17 12:59:47 PM by Stellarvore
Is it possible to start a running tally on actors with more than one Complete Monster? For example, I know that Gian Maria Volonte has two, Jason Isaacs has two and Tony Todd has two. Mark Hamill has two in voice.
edited 5th Feb '17 6:36:48 PM by k410ren
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If you wanna make your own little spreadsheet as a side project, sure. Think Camberf's doing the same when it comes to which animal has the most entries for being a CM.
Would a work having a Villain Protagonist prevent it from being able to have a qualifier? I'm asking because I think there was an example voted down awhile back because of it (despite the protagonist not having been very heinous by the time the season ended and having redeeming traits) but I'm not sure if I'm remembering that right and had a potential example I was going to propose with one once the ongoing arc finished up.
Not in and of itself - the Villain Protagonist would merely contribute to the overall heinousness standard, so if they were worse than the candidate despite also having more redeeming traits, that would be a disqualifier.
@Demon Duckof Doom, sorry for the late response! I'm not trying to duck you. I found the book, I just need to find the page that it's on.
edited 5th Feb '17 8:04:40 PM by Stellarvore
@ ACW,
With the Fearmaster write up, please put a space "a" and "mob boss" and it might be cool to wrap to wrap "Creepy Souvenir" around "keeping them on display in his personal hall, considering keeping the women he killed displayed in his personal hall is pretty screwed up.
Also you may want to make your effort posts more detailed in the future, use full paragraphs rather then bullet points.
Also I'm not sure what YMMV section Brimstone Love should go into, X-Men 2099 does not have its own page, we could put him in the YMMV for Marvel 2099.
Also
to Stevens, Franco, Nassim, Straker and Barlow.
To Barrett
Abstaining on Palmeri.
edited 5th Feb '17 9:43:51 PM by Overlord
Okay, I'm gonna do some expansion here....
Who Is He? What Has He Done?
Aiichiro Kanehira is the leader of the Nirvana Church like ACW proposed. It's a powerful organization, and a fast-growing religion. It's also a very dark cult, established by Kanehira himself and functions entirely for his sole benefit.
Now, Kanehira has also turned the church into a borderline paramilitary organization. Members are more or less enslaved, encouraged to give all the money they have to the church. In many cases, this leaves them broke, destitute and with their lives ruined or even committing suicide to escape the debts. Kanehira is well aware of this (and doesn't bother to adhere to the moral standards he forces his followers to live by) but doesn't care. In fact, he privately mocks them behind their backs, and continues his practices.
He also takes sexual advantage of many of his followers, inducing them to sleep with him with promises of 'salvation,' and regularly takes advantage of this, only to abandon them. This is a practice that resulted in the suicide of the mother of the hero, Takeo Kikuchi, after she lost her mind to the church.
Now, Kanehira also has children of members taken and placed into deplorable conditions, with beatings, starvation, isolation and all sorts of abuse commonplace, physical, sexual, etc. The purpose is to raise the children as elite assassins for the church. Kanehira has had a multitude of critics and political rivals assassinated. Dozens at least. Likely hundreds. Maybe even more.
In addition, Kanehira okays abominable medical experiments to create a new breed of super soldier: turning people into zombies that exist in perpetual agony. He also has, at the very least, okayed the trafficking of organs in the prison run by Kawashima.
At the very end, Kanehira's blind daughter discovers what her father really is, and kills herself in front of him, aiming to make him feel something for her and repent. Kawahira breaks down...only to reveal he was acting and sneers to "get that garbage out of here"...only for Takeo to reveal himself and execute Kanehira, leaving his corpse strung up for his congregation to find.
Freudian Excuse?
Some. Kanehira grew up poor, the son of a Yakuza man and a prostitute woman, who would repeatedly have sex, even in front of him. Thing is, this explains his desire to never be helpless and on the bottom again, but everything he's done? Well, it hardly begins to excuse it. Kanehira hodls his parents in contempt, but it's not really used in any sort of redeeming way whatsoever.
Mitigating Qualities?
Some, but all subverted. Kanehira looks upset and frustrated at the deaths of some followers, and is shown embracing his 'prophet', but the manga shows him at the end to care only about himself. When he embraces said prophet, it's only because he's stressed out from his recurring nightmare of being murdered by a wolf and terrified for his life. Kanehira forgets his subordinates as soon as they die, and when his daughter dies, he reveals himself to only care about himself. Friends, lovers, his own daughter...they're NOTHING to him as long as he gets to stay at the very top. Period.
Conclusion?
Almost all the evil we see is ordered by Kanehira, or authorized by him. He's scum. A murderer, who runs a corrupt church that brutalizes children to raise them as murderous super soldiers, sexually extorts women and financially extorts followers to the point he ruins their lives, while also authorizing grotesque medical experiments.
The man is an easy, easy, easy keeper.

On the Dokuro trio... yeah, ACW, you still really need to work on fleshing out your effortposts. I suppose Kawashima, at the least, sounds a fairly solid yes... leaning no on Kanehira mainly due to that "being sad over one of his followers dying" thing. You don't seem to defend that point at all except "I don't know whether or not he was actually sad." That combined with that other potential mitigating the factor (hugging the prophet) make me, to say the least, immensely skeptical. Can't cast a solid vote on the last candidate because three bullet points does not equate to a solid summary of the candidate I can look at and cast a vote based on.
edited 5th Feb '17 3:15:58 PM by Scraggle