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How come chris never became a scrappy?(family guy)

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ssamredrum now with an avatar from Kfar-Saba,Cannan Since: May, 2010
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#1: Oct 23rd 2010 at 9:20:11 AM

Exactly What It Says On The Tin

His character is nothing but a The Ditz with more screen time, making him even more irritating. Am I supposed to be entertained by a teen acting like a mentally ill 5 year old? don't we already have peter as an idiot ? Why would I want another one? Because chris is such a horrible character , half of his jokes revolve around him being abused by an old pedophile ,that was slightly funny for one time ,one time! why are those jokes keep getting recycled? I can't stand the star wars parody because I have to see that idiot as a main character .

I haven't seen the early episodes in a while, but if my memory serves me right he wasn't always like that and used to be a decent character. I wish he will ever get a personality change(and I don't mind if I'll have to face some Fan Dumb yelling "I liked the old chris better")or he will just get Deflanderized.

I can't possibly be the only one who feels this way.

edited 23rd Oct '10 9:28:15 AM by ssamredrum

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#2: Oct 23rd 2010 at 9:44:19 AM

Scrappy is subjective.

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#3: Oct 23rd 2010 at 9:55:24 AM

Chris is a little airheaded, but definitely not a The Ditz.

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ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
#4: Oct 23rd 2010 at 10:15:38 AM

IMO, Seth Green's voice and delivery help make him more likable than he'd otherwise be.

truteal animation elitist from the great southern land Since: Sep, 2009
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#5: Oct 23rd 2010 at 1:00:15 PM

He doesn't hog the spotlight like some characters on that show

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OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
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#6: Oct 23rd 2010 at 3:51:09 PM

Everyone around him but Meg is more unlikable, so Chris looks good by comparison.

EddieValiant,Jr. Not Quite Batman from under your bed. Since: Jan, 2010
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#7: Oct 23rd 2010 at 5:20:06 PM

People hate Meg in real life, too? I think she's a little boring, but totally inoffensive beyond that.

And, honestly, I quite like Brian. The Brian and Stewie "Road to..." episodes are the best in the series, in my opinion.

edited 23rd Oct '10 5:20:13 PM by EddieValiant,Jr.

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OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
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#8: Oct 23rd 2010 at 6:47:45 PM

Start of the series Brian was great, the best character in the whole run of the show.

Later on, however... meh.

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#9: Oct 23rd 2010 at 7:25:19 PM

Chris isn't a Scrappy because for the most part, he doesn't really do anything.

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#10: Oct 23rd 2010 at 8:41:56 PM

I hate how became more of an asshole later on though, and his snarking is more obnoxious than funny. Now he comes off as a douche. But then again, so does 90% of the cast.

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#11: Oct 23rd 2010 at 9:57:43 PM

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He said that everyone but Meg was more unlikeable, which means that Meg is more likeable.

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EddieValiant,Jr. Not Quite Batman from under your bed. Since: Jan, 2010
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#12: Oct 24th 2010 at 11:34:14 AM

Ahh. Gotcha. Sorry.

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ssamredrum now with an avatar from Kfar-Saba,Cannan Since: May, 2010
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#13: Dec 6th 2010 at 4:38:36 AM

I apologize for bringing this topic back from the dead, but I am unhappy with the way it ended, I'll start by responding to previous comments.

Scrappy is subjective
no it isn't, scrappy is someone allot of fans hate. if a character is a scrappy, it's pretty much a fact.
IMO, Seth Green's voice and delivery help make him more likable than he'd otherwise be.
personally,I find it to be even more annoying.
He doesn't hog the spotlight like some characters on that show
and for that I am thankful every day.
Everyone around him but Meg is more unlikable, so Chris looks good by comparison.
what? other characters are(or used to be) funny, chris isn't,he is simply annoying , making me wanna turn off the tv.
Chris is a little airheaded, but definitely not a Ralph Wiggum. .
  • thank you for missing the point.
  • that depends on the writer.
  • if I hate those two characters for exactly the same reason,there must be something in common.

now,when I started this topic I was trying to be subtle,because I don't believe the internet justifies rudeness , unfortunately,I was a little too subtle,so let me make this straight .I hate chris, I wish he will drop to a blazing inferno ,I am wondering why the family guy fandom doesn't,and I will be happy to hear about other people hating him and talking with them about what we hate in chris.

it's not that I don't appreciate people giving me real answers,but the purpose of this topic was to check if there are other people who hate chris or am I a lonely hater.

edited 6th Dec '10 4:40:43 AM by ssamredrum

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Dec 6th 2010 at 12:01:54 PM

^ I'd keep wishing, because you out and saying you want this to be a hate topic is pretty much the thing that assured it will never become one.

If anything, you've just turned this topic into Snark Bait.

Start of the series Brian was great, the best character in the whole run of the show.

Later on, however... meh.

Yes, very much yes. Part of the reason I dislike Brian nowadays is that they did him right earlier on and then they made him less and less likable, sometimes even downright detestable, as time went on.

Alkthash Was? Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Dec 6th 2010 at 1:07:26 PM

Dude all this hate for a cartoon character? Don't you think that's a little silly?

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#16: Dec 6th 2010 at 7:07:47 PM

Chris kind of fades into the background for me.

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#17: Dec 6th 2010 at 11:38:57 PM

He's a lame, unlikable character in a show that's filled to the brim with lame, unlikable characters. Its hard for any of them to stand out enough to be The Scrappy.

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#18: Dec 7th 2010 at 2:36:11 AM

He's lame and unlikeable but he doesen't actually DO enough or have enough plotlines to be annoying. He's just... sort of there.

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ssamredrum now with an avatar from Kfar-Saba,Cannan Since: May, 2010
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#19: Dec 7th 2010 at 3:37:16 AM

thank you.

frankly,I don't understand this fear some people have from hatred, the way I see it ,hatred is part of what makes us human, we love some things and hate others ,it is only natural,if we cease to hate,we cease to love ,and if we cease to love ,we cease to exist,for we are defined by the things we love and hate,no,we are the things we love and hate.

Dude all this hate for a cartoon character? Don't you think that's a little silly?
after reading your comment i looked in the mirror and asked myself "am I looking at the face of a person filled with hate?" "no" I answered,"I am looking at the face of a person filled with love" I care for family guy,and I feel like chris is pulling the series down. after all the tv is part of my life. is it silly to care for your life?to care for the tv that you watch? if I watch family guy and instead of laughing I get pissed,it would only be natural for me to try and fix it .you might say that I don't have to watch FG, and you will be right,but still I find no reason to be forced to not watch a show that overall does manage to make me laugh just because of a character I dislike. also,define "all this hate ",while I admit I might have been a little to generous with the emphasis ,I never thought my comments are more hateful than any common hate.
^ I'd keep wishing, because you out and saying you want this to be a hate topic is pretty much the thing that assured it will never become one.

If anything, you've just turned this topic into Snark Bait.

Start of the series Brian was great, the best character in the whole run of the show.

Later on, however... meh.

Yes, very much yes. Part of the reason I dislike Brian nowadays is that they did him right earlier on and then they made him less and less likable, sometimes even downright detestable, as time went on.

so sincerity=doom

if only I knew.

and I don't actually want this to be a hate topic. my question was real, I really don't understand why people don't hate him more. all I said is I would be happy to see that people do hate him because I do(or at least did) believe those people exist ,you got to understand it was rather annoying seeing how this topic quickly became a brian hate(or dislike,call it whatever you want) topic,when I said "talk" I didn't mean that we will spend 30 pages counting reasons why we hate chris.

now seeing the new comments I start to think that me hating him might have been an unlucky coincidence of me seeing a number of episode where he appeared to much in a row, because it is true that he gets little screentime but I strongly believe that the reason of that is that writers can't make something funny of this character .

I hope that I managed to make myself clear this time,not being an english speaker makes some things rather hard to express,especially on the web.

edited 7th Dec '10 3:45:44 AM by ssamredrum

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#20: Dec 7th 2010 at 10:33:20 AM

Overt hatred = doom.

Sincerity = a nice touch, but likely doesn't overshadow the first.

drepants Since: Jun, 2009
#21: Dec 8th 2010 at 9:54:54 AM

Strange. I find him hilarious on several occasions. Not all the time (that's not how Family guy rolls apparently, no character can be likable all the time except Mayor Adam We) but in the episode where he is babysat by Herbert the Pervert and talking to the shopkeeper voiced by Jon H Benjamin stand out. Jeez, they did that bit about awesome nude movie scenes live and the audience loved it: Evidence that the scene (and by extension the characters in it) is funny.

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#22: Dec 8th 2010 at 8:00:22 PM

Like others have said I think a large part of why he doesn't become a Scrappy is because he really isn't used much in episodes. I do agree though his character is annoying but then pretty much everyone in the show has become Flanderized and annoying.

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Razputin Razzle Dazzle from Louisiana Since: May, 2009
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#23: Dec 9th 2010 at 1:58:47 PM

Jesus dude, we get it. No one doubted your unbridled and passionate hate for Chris Griffin— no need to clarify.

That aside, I think he's an okay character. He can be annoying/funny at times, but for the most part I'm neutral towards him. I agree with Alkthash; he doesn't have enough screen time to be The Scrappy.

edited 9th Dec '10 1:59:15 PM by Razputin

I've decided to start posting more often. Sorry.
qtjinla15 Since: Dec, 2010
#24: Dec 8th 2011 at 12:39:02 PM

He's in the background. Not enough S. Time.

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#25: Dec 8th 2011 at 4:28:57 PM

HUGE bump.

If we are continuing the conversation, Chris just seems to be a character that's 'just there' right now. He rarely gets any individual episodes now and like most of the cast his facets and complexities have been diluted in favor of Rule of Funny. He seems to exist solely as a somewhat dimwitted character with a hidden snarky streak.


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