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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#101: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:37:02 PM

The context is that shooting in the head is the best way to kill them, which is still not what the trope is. That makes them misuses.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#102: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:43:16 PM

[up] Disagree, to me the title implies "Headshots Shouldn't Kill Robots". But whatever, a rename is fine, if you think Cranial Processing Unit is clearer. I don't think it matters very much.

edited 20th Nov '10 7:44:50 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#103: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:45:30 PM

It does when the point is where all the vital parts are, not that it's the best place to shoot.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#104: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:48:17 PM

I think I was talking about where the vital parts are, not where it is best to shoot. The latter follows from the former, is all: it's usually best to shoot at vital parts. There is more than one way to interpret Head Shots Kill Robots.

edited 20th Nov '10 7:49:19 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#105: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:56:10 PM

Yeah, but names shouldn't require lateral thinking to understand, unless the trope is actually about that. We have too many pages to require people to try to wrap their heads around a name just for the sake of it.

edited 20th Nov '10 7:57:10 PM by DragonQuestZ

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#106: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:57:36 PM

I don't think that is lateral thinking.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#107: Nov 20th 2010 at 8:05:57 PM

Okay, perhaps not lateral thinking, but something still indirect. You still have to get to the point of the trope through what is an incidental effect of it, when at lease Cranial Processing Unit tells the point of the trope.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#108: Nov 21st 2010 at 12:53:04 AM

45 Examples seems rather low to me, one it could be the title is misleading or most works don't go into that much detail. (I am thinking its the former because nearly every Android and Gyroid I can think of is this trope.)

edited 21st Nov '10 12:54:01 AM by Raso

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#109: Nov 21st 2010 at 11:00:57 PM

Crowner's been at +7 for a whole day now. Just keeping track.

girlyboy Since: Jan, 2001
#110: Nov 22nd 2010 at 12:25:31 AM

There's been no new votes all day. tongue

I am still wondering what the "consensus" that the rename guidelines mention would mean in this context. >_>

Edit: Immediately after I posted this, it went to +8. O_O

edited 22nd Nov '10 12:26:22 AM by girlyboy

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#111: Nov 22nd 2010 at 12:34:17 AM

Considering that it was even (7/7) when the misuse was brought up I would say its a yes.

(I called for the crowner to be thrown out thanks to not all the info and edit wars but meh)

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#112: Nov 22nd 2010 at 2:21:03 AM

[up][up] A ration of almost 2:1 is a pretty damn firm consensus (went up to +10 now, lol)

edited 22nd Nov '10 2:21:45 AM by Ghilz

girlyboy Since: Jan, 2001
#113: Nov 22nd 2010 at 9:57:23 AM

Pfft, now it's just under 66% "for"! That's, like, a whole percentage point away from *really* being a 2/3rds majority!

... Yeah, I've got nothing.

Curse you, Trope Repair Shop!

But, hey, I'm all for the crowner getting thrown out. [up][up] Maybe if we didn't have DQZ editing the "cons" to make them sound less convincing than they really could be, or deleting them outright for periods of time, there would be more "against" votes. wild mass guess

edited 22nd Nov '10 10:10:26 AM by girlyboy

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#115: Nov 22nd 2010 at 12:49:47 PM

[up]The first sounds tropable, but too broad for this. The second doesn't show that this is about the robot's CPU being in the head.

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Court Dragon
#116: Nov 22nd 2010 at 2:26:24 PM

Robot Head Equals Brain?

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DialgaX Since: Jan, 2001
#117: Nov 22nd 2010 at 2:30:52 PM

Headdrive Crash?

I mean computers cannot function without a hard drive and it makes a nice pun on how head crash will render a hard drive unusable.

Failing that, why not keep the old Head Shots Kill Robots title?

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#118: Nov 22nd 2010 at 2:53:58 PM

We can attach those to the alt name crowner, assuming the rename goes through. It might in a day or so, but I'll wait and see.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#119: Nov 22nd 2010 at 6:48:30 PM

I believe Cranial Processing Unit had the lead before the crowner was switched.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#121: Nov 23rd 2010 at 2:58:16 AM

If it's ahead tomorrow, I think we can call for a rename.

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girlyboy Since: Jan, 2001
#122: Nov 23rd 2010 at 10:02:00 AM

[up]I'm going to nit-pick and point out that it doesn't just have to be ahead tomorrow, but far enough ahead to qualify as something like "consensus". Since, as the rules clearly say, a simple majority is not enough for a rename.

But yes, this is a minor point, since at this time the "pro" side is so far ahead that it's hard to imagine the rename not going through. sad

edited 23rd Nov '10 10:03:36 AM by girlyboy

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#123: Nov 23rd 2010 at 12:27:22 PM

I did mean that, not merely leading. But it's a clear 2/3 now (made that post last night), so I think it's safe to call it.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#124: Nov 23rd 2010 at 8:01:34 PM

Yeah, we can call this.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#125: Nov 23rd 2010 at 8:15:18 PM

Do we need to put the name crowner up again?

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AlternativeTitles: HeadshotsKillRobots
20th Apr '10 12:00:00 AM

Crown Description:

Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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