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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#176: Mar 14th 2016 at 4:51:26 AM

Like most things in the series, there's just no way to be sure. There's a vagueness about the Worldbuilding as if it's likie the real world where people won't go into exposition dumps whenever something's mentioned. The biggest one is probably Titan.

There is or was a war there for some reason that produced some highly unethical research.

The biggest thing I've wondered about is what will Fey and Jet do now? With or without Spike the series gradually makes it clear that bounties are a dying occupation with the solidifying of the Solar System. Jet's staying away from the law since whenever we run into the ISP they're a bunch of corrupt pricks who are apathetic at best and there's nowhere else for them to go.

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#177: Mar 14th 2016 at 7:03:51 AM

Freighter work?

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#178: Mar 14th 2016 at 7:27:59 AM

They'd probably make more money doing that than they ever did as bounty hunters. tongue

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#179: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:00:16 AM

You know, I never considered the fact that the bounty hunter profession as a whole seems to be in the decline during Cowboy Bebop. The crew of the Bebop, who are pretty infamous as bounty hunters go (as revealed by the Cowboy Andy episode), can barely make ends meet. Big Shots, the bounty hunter TV show, goes off the air toward the end of the series. There's a little Twilight of the Old West in Cowboy Bebop's Space Western.

As for what Jet, Faye, and possibly Spike would do after the series ends? I always assume that they kept doing their bounty hunter thing, but now I'm not sure. What sort of opportunities are available for a small crew with a slightly run-down ship and a talent for violence and what basically amounts to detective work?

Private investigators, maybe? Cowboy Bebop already has some Film Noir elements in addition to the Space Western style.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#180: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:01:56 AM

And they aren't incompetent. Just destructive. They can make money just fine and have done a lot of finding people supposed to be unfindable.

Private Investigator would do a lot less damage, require less hospital bills, and from there, there we go.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#181: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:05:03 AM

Jet makes a fortune by finally following his true calling in Elite Bonsai Grooming for the rich and famous.

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#182: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:07:38 AM

[up][up]Well, Perpetual Poverty is as much a Hardboiled Detective thing as it is a cowboy thing, so they don't necessarily have to be any better off on that front.

[up]Honestly, one of the other things I thought of was Jet opening a restaurant. Not sure where Faye or Spike would fit in, though.

edited 14th Mar '16 9:08:30 AM by NativeJovian

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#183: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:15:55 AM

As Ed grows, she gets slightly more aware about the world's realities, starts making money on 'net scams and stunts, keeps quietly pouring money into the accounts of Jet and Faye regularly. Not like they could trace it to her.

edited 14th Mar '16 9:16:27 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#184: Mar 14th 2016 at 7:38:18 PM

Aww, that's such an Edward thing to do. She's hacked into government sats, wired and took the Bebop for a spin remotely, nearly beat the guy who made ftl gateways a thing, and got her friends tripping out on shrooms.

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#185: Mar 14th 2016 at 11:03:18 PM

It's kind of crazy how much this show balances out it's own tone. You got serious episodes, comedic episodes, sad episodes, etc. Sometimes there's even overlap too. Yet it never feels indecisive and just kind of comes together naturally. On an unrelated side note, Steve Blum is awesome. Seriously, the guy is perfect for the role of Spike. I honestly can't see anyone else voicing the character. No offense to his original japanese voice actor though. It's just that I watched the show primarily dubbed, and Blum as Spike is just how I always picture the character

Has anyone watched the DVD special feature that interviews the dub voice actors of the main characters {As well as the actor's of Vicious and Julia, the latter of whom was also the voice acting director of the dub}? It's a really interesting watch. I don't remember the name of it though. I think it's on the final disc. Apparently both of Vicious's actors went through a case of Playing Against Type, as I already know his japanese one usually voices Large Ham villains like Emperor Charles or Cell, while his dub actor himself said in the aforementioned special feature that he usually voices over the top characters as well. Yet both of them were able to do the "Icy, stoic and heartless villain" type that we know Vicious as.

edited 14th Mar '16 11:10:46 PM by marston

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#186: Mar 15th 2016 at 9:03:13 AM

It's kind of crazy how much this show balances out it's own tone. You got serious episodes, comedic episodes, sad episodes, etc. Sometimes there's even overlap too. Yet it never feels indecisive and just kind of comes together naturally.

Watanabe's shows (well, more like this and Samurai Champloo) are a bit more like western animated shows in this regard where the individual episodes themselves are standouts that tell complete stories, as opposed to being small parts in a much grander narrative like many other anime.

And well, when you think about it, what you just said is basically life isn't it? I feel like that's part of what makes Bebop resonate to so many people.

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#187: Apr 6th 2016 at 1:02:47 PM

Sorry if I've already asked this question, but: When is the right time to watch the movie? This show is coming up soon in my PTW queue, and apparently the movie was released after the TV show ended but is set between episodes 22 and 23 of the TV show. Would it be better to watch the movie spliced in at that point, or leave it until afterwards?

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#188: Apr 6th 2016 at 1:07:57 PM

Watch it between 22 and 23. It's just an hour long episode, nothing crazy.

I mean it's pretty great but still.

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#189: Apr 6th 2016 at 4:34:28 PM

Okay then. (Wikipedia says it's almost two hours though.)

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#190: Apr 6th 2016 at 4:46:22 PM

Apparently both of Vicious's actors went through a case of Playing Against Type, as I already know his japanese one usually voices Large Ham villains like Emperor Charles or Cell, while his dub actor himself said in the aforementioned special feature that he usually voices over the top characters as well. Yet both of them were able to do the "Icy, stoic and heartless villain" type that we know Vicious as.

If you're familiar with the Naruto franchise, dub Vicious is Might Guy.

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#191: Apr 6th 2016 at 5:12:19 PM

Jet and Faye coul always start the equivalent of the Payday crew

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#192: Apr 6th 2016 at 5:41:19 PM

The movie canonically takes place between those two episodes, but is really an independent story that doesn't interact with anything else. You can watch it pretty much any time after Ed joins the crew and not have to worry about spoilers or anything. Personally, I'd suggest finishing the series first and then going back to watch the movie, but it honestly doesn't make much of a difference.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#193: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:33:08 PM

The movie canonically takes place between those two episodes

How do you figure?

Movie starts with Spike asleep, movie ends with Spike waking up. It starts after Ed joined and before Ed, Spike, and Faye left.

edited 6th Apr '16 6:34:08 PM by Soble

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#194: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:50:16 PM

It's Word of God, I believe.

That said, IIRC both Cowboy Andy in his samurai getup and the three reoccurring old men both show up, which fits the time between 22 and 23, because Andy doesn't go samurai until after 22 and the three old men are seen among a pile of corpses in 23.

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#195: May 2nd 2016 at 11:51:03 AM

[up]Actually I only saw one of the 3 old guys dead on the ground in that episode. It was the one with the yellow shirt. I don't think the other two were seen at all in that scene.

edited 2nd May '16 11:51:39 AM by marston

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#196: Nov 4th 2016 at 7:12:54 PM

pHello from the future.

Anyone if there's an analysis of Cowboy Bebop specifically on its episode previews? Weird request and unlikely to find an answer, but the episode previews are little goldmines, and I'm always a little stunned when I rewatch them. The lack of further comment on them makes some of them feel a little inconclusive, at least to me because I can't always tell what they're drawing from. Sometimes it's actually referencing the next episode's plot, other times it feels very random, sometimes it's a small element while alluding to something more.

You've got this from Waltz For Venus that's a little uplifting, but sad in hindsight. You've got the Pierrot Le Fou one. Jesus.

I mean, the one for Black Dog Serenade is just... I don't have a word for it, but it grabs you.

Ganymede Elegy's is beautiful:

I don't know where to begin with Ballad of Fallen Angel's preview and the way it colors Spike's point of view.

The one for Sympathy for the Devil that almost seems comedic, but seems to have something to do with the grander plot. Heavy Metal Queen's, My Funny Valentine's, and Jupiter Jazz's are similar. Wild Horses's was either them dialing it in or just having fun with the dubbing.

The more cathartic one from Jupiter Jazz Part II. The seemingly self-parodying one from Speak Like A Child.

The one-liner from Bohemian rhapsody. "Don't you want to hang out and waste your life with us?"

Hard Luck Woman's brings a tear to the eye and there's absolutely nothing said in it. I can't tell if that's hindsight or not because originally I binged the series and skipped most of the previews.

edited 4th Nov '16 7:13:14 PM by Soble

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#197: Nov 4th 2016 at 7:18:55 PM

Mentioning Ganymede Elegy, I always feel like Black Dog Serenade should have come first and Elegy second. The former explains Jet's current position on the Bebop and his cybernetics, and why he's no longer a cop - but that was a prelude to how he ultimately lost his wife and their relationship. And that seemed like more positive closure to his admittedly brief arc, whereas Serenade just sort of ends on "well, Jet caught the guy that done him wrong, but it was a trap! And then Jet killed that guy too!" And maybe I haven't watched it in awhile and never looked at it all that deeply, but Elegy seemed felt like a stronger conclusion - Jet having to return to his old life and deal with his demons, instead of dealing with a traitor.

Faye and Spike's arcs were fine, but Jet's always felt like it went in reverse.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#198: Nov 5th 2016 at 2:07:07 PM

Elegy's one of the best episodes, from an emotional standpoint with very good music directing.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#199: Nov 5th 2016 at 11:20:28 PM

Like many of the individual episodes of the anime itself, I always felt like each preview was intended as a thematic piece all its own to set the stage for what was coming - they didn't need to have a consistent tone, particularly when the episode it was previewing was only tenuously connected to the Spike and Vicious arc that strings a (thankfully) small number of episodes together.

BlueOnyx Since: Feb, 2017
#200: Feb 4th 2017 at 5:23:39 PM

Really wish they had kept this anime going. I miss it. Getting ready to watch it through again. Glad to see a thread about it on here.


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