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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#651: Aug 31st 2019 at 6:31:03 AM

> There is really no permanent way to deal with Zim short of killing him yourself.

That or you remove Dib

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#652: Sep 1st 2019 at 11:00:41 AM

Zim eating waffles,your welcome

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#653: Sep 1st 2019 at 5:36:30 PM

Well judging by one of the unreleased episodes the previous tallest before Red and Purple was named Miyuki. Tallest Miyuki judging by her name would of actually been a pretty nice Tallest and seemed to be somewhat smart, or smarter than Purple and Red where by far (unless the name is not representative of her personality)

She was killed by accident by Zim. Zim created some sort of energy absorbing blob that ate her. Not unlike how he killed Red and Purple in the movie actually.

There was one other Tallest between Miyuki and Red/Purple. Tallest Spork succeeded Miyuki. He was eaten by the same energy absorbing blob that ate Miyuki. IIRC, the blob returned because of some doodad Zim kept holding onto after the initial disaster.

Zim killed two Tallest with one Weird Science F*ck-Up. Again, not unlike what happened to Red and Purple....

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 1st 2019 at 6:37:19 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#654: Sep 1st 2019 at 6:29:53 PM

It'll get to the point where Irkens actively refuse to be acknowledged as Tallest since they don't want to risk "death by Zim".

Actually, at the rate Zim kills off his fellow Irkens, I'd be surprised if there are even that many Irkens left.

Edited by M84 on Sep 1st 2019 at 9:31:43 PM

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#655: Sep 1st 2019 at 6:52:51 PM

i was rereading some of the comics and got to the issue where zim's pak takes over a chair and remembered the line about how irkens dont become chairs, and laughed

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#656: Sep 1st 2019 at 6:56:26 PM

It just means they can become anything they put their mind to.

Literally.

And that's just great.

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#657: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:08:40 PM

Huh. Out of curiosity, does that issue Joss "Ten Minutes to Doom"?

Ten Minutes was another unreleased episode where Zim's PAK gets separated from him and grafts itself to Dib. Zim has to recover the PAK in ten minutes. If he doesn't, he'll die and the PAK will overwrite Dib's mind and make him into the new Zim, with Zim's personality and memories and characteristics and whatnot.

It's some really interesting lore about Irken biology, but technically not canon since the episode was never made. So I've often wondered how the comics handle it.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 1st 2019 at 8:10:20 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#658: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:10:54 PM

The comic seems more accurate with the scene showing how Zim was born...

It's immediate.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 1st 2019 at 7:11:10 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#659: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:41:42 PM

[up][up] The closest thing we ever got to that was the body swap issue, iirc.

Gaz became Zim, and basically took on his personality while retaining her level head and intelligence, resulting in her taking over the world. Dib became Gir, and earnestly wanted to fix things and save everyone but was rendered too insane to even remember what he was trying to do by the end of the issue. I don’t remember what happened to Zim and Gir in Dib and Gaz’ bodies - I think Gaz disposed of them in some way, but oddly the story wasn’t really about them.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#660: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:45:53 PM

"Ten Minutes to Doom" also revealed that PA Ks are only really compatible with Irkens. If they try to connect with anyone who isn't an Irken, they kill their hosts within ten minutes.

The Irken and PAK relationship seems to be a symbiosis — an Irken cannot survive without a PAK, and a PAK cannot survive without an Irken.

One has to wonder what led the Irkens to be so dependent on technology that they would do this to themselves.

Edited by M84 on Sep 1st 2019 at 10:49:53 PM

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#661: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:50:20 PM

Oh, yeah. I forgot that part.

Jhonen Vasquez considered it a possible ending point for Invader Zim. Zim and Gaz's effort to recover the PAK from Dib would have failed, resulting in both Zim and Dib dying. IIRC, Nickelodeon nixed this idea immediately because killing off both characters would make it impossible for the show to ever come back, should they want it to.

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#662: Sep 1st 2019 at 7:54:24 PM

Well we know that Tak, Sizz-Lor, Spoodge, and maybe Tenn are still alive.

Beyond that though, yeah I think Zim has managed to kill most of the Irken race.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#664: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:00:15 PM

Though as long as whatever facility produces the PA Ks and Smeets remains intact, the Irkens will always be able to come back.

Until Zim inevitably flattens that place too. Then he gets all horrified and weepy when he discovers the remains of his beloved cold unfeeling robot arm.

Edited by M84 on Sep 1st 2019 at 11:03:18 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#665: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:04:59 PM

Why didn't they just take away his pak?

Instead of reassigning him, they could've just done that.

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#666: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:11:46 PM

Because Red and Purple are a couple of lazy assholes who figured sending Zim far away to some unexplored corner of space was easier. It would have worked too, if not for the fact there actually was a planet there.

Edited by M84 on Sep 1st 2019 at 11:12:24 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#667: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:14:43 PM

They plug into Paks to reassign people, instead of making Zim a fry cook...they could've just killed him.

Apparently you gotta commit some major atrocities to really get the juice.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 1st 2019 at 8:31:01 AM

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#668: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:24:30 PM

The Irkens are oddly lenient on Zim, considering that he had committed regicide. More than once.

In any other society, it would be the highest possible offense.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#669: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:27:52 PM

I chalk it up to Red and Purple being really lousy leaders with very skewed priorities.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#670: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:48:59 PM

"The Trial" aside, giving Zim any real repercussions would rely heavily on keeping him contained long enough to do anything to him.

And also on him not doing anything while being punished.

I think Red and Purple understand that their best odds are just placating him and keeping him as far away as possible.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#671: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:53:05 PM

And of course the moment they decided to finally deal with Zim directly it bites them in the ass. Though tbf, that's because they were too stubborn and stupid to not change direction.

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#672: Sep 1st 2019 at 11:21:25 PM

Red and Purple are obscenely lazy and also at the same time malicious. In the very first episode they considering sending Zim to a planet of explosive glass and the planet of slaughtering rat people which would of likely killed him but chose to send Zim to Earth instead because they wanted to drag out Zim's suffering.

Ultimately that proved to be their undoing.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#673: Sep 1st 2019 at 11:29:13 PM

They didn't send Zim to Earth specifically. They didn't even realize there was a planet there at all. It was supposed to be a glorified Snipe Hunt.

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#674: Sep 2nd 2019 at 12:55:10 AM

I suppose the question since the first episode is why they didn't just kill him?

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 2nd 2019 at 3:55:29 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#675: Sep 2nd 2019 at 12:57:28 AM

They are probably asking that question to themselves as they burn alive in the Florpus.

The answer probably amounts to the same reason Megatron kept Starscream around despite his obvious treachery: "I'm an idiot!"

These are the same guys who refused to change direction to avoid colliding with the Florpus after all.

Edited by M84 on Sep 3rd 2019 at 3:59:19 AM

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