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RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn Since: Nov, 2009
the Ephemeral
#526: Feb 18th 2011 at 12:26:37 PM

I'll be sort of sorry to see Aro go—not particularly because of his character, just because Aro+Addy+Elspeth=recover human memories post-turning. Would be cool.

...Ooh. If we get the whole ANCIENT AND NOBLE HOUSE OF [WHATEVER] bit, then they could have a much more effective prison than the Volturi—not only keep them locked up in a dungeon, but Pera can keep them locked up in different dimensions.

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SammiJ Since: Jun, 2010
#527: Feb 18th 2011 at 1:29:11 PM

[up]Is it truly necessary that they kill him? I mean, they probably will, but if QUEEN BELLA wants to be feared and loved, she could let Aro live, provided he meet certain stringent guidelines. (I realize how naive this sounds, I'm just saying that it may not be necessary to kill all the Volturi.)

What I really want to know, is what will they do with Marcus, and how will he react to the change of leadership?

All Cretans are liars.—Epimenides the Cretan
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#528: Feb 18th 2011 at 4:13:41 PM

You two birds! You greatly disgress QUEEN BELLA OF THE MOST ANCIENT AND NOBLE HOUSE OF CULLEN! Off with your heads!


I also miss the opportunity that Aro+Addy+Elspeth combo could bring. I guess that Edward+Elspeth+Addy could work, but to a much more limited degree.

Keeping any non-chelsea'd non-"evil" Volturri alive but arrested is going too difficult, they managed do keep the witches in "storage" greatly because Alec's power was around too feed them. Technically there is the alternative to hold the vampire down, but is much more tricky.

And Marcus... does he have any reason to hate the Rebelion? I think that if he was deprogramed and without the Volturri... he would eventually kill himself, not sure if he was going to take someone with him.

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
SammiJ Since: Jun, 2010
#529: Feb 18th 2011 at 4:40:00 PM

Is he programmed at all? The first time Chelsea tried it, he wouldn't let her...did he not care after that (and therefore permit her to mess with his relationships), or did she play it safe an not try it?

I tend to think Marcus is going to want to kill Aro and then be all sad at the various protagonists, and then commit suicide.

(My humblest apologies to QUEEN BELLA OF THE MOST NOBLE AND ANCIENT HOUSE OF CULLEN.)

All Cretans are liars.—Epimenides the Cretan
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#530: Feb 18th 2011 at 4:52:25 PM

QUEEN BELLA OF THE MOST NOBLE AND ANCIENT HOUSE OF CULLEN accepts the apologies in her endless compassion and wisdom.

but it shal not happen again.

There is a flashback somewhere that shows sometime after Dydime's death. It shows that Chelsea works to keep him attached to volturi enough to not runaway and/or get himself killed (It also showed her sniping Aro's love for his sister, at his own request). Marcus simply doesn't care anymore that Chelsea manipulates him.

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#532: Feb 18th 2011 at 7:16:37 PM

QUEEN BELLA OF THE MOST NOBLE AND ANCIENT HOUSE OF CULLEN, THE GOLDEN-EYED OVERLORD Triumphs!

Nice wrap up, Siobhan-power-copied-by-Addy shows it's true influence. Interesting not-so-ethical-but-necessary decisions are made.

Edit: I just realized, was Edward naked this entire time? And did Rosalie and Emmet participate in the fight? they aren't mentioned, but I was more than surprised that Esme and Carlisle are there too.

edited 18th Feb '11 7:20:38 PM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
SammiJ Since: Jun, 2010
#533: Feb 18th 2011 at 7:41:37 PM

So if Bella is QUEEN BELLA OF THE MOST NOBLE AND ANCIENT HOUSE OF CULLEN, GOLDEN EYED OVERLORD, what does that make Carlisle and the rest of the Cullens? Dukes and Duchesses? Is Elspeth a princess?

Also, it does not surprise me that Elspeth doesn't want the re-Chealsea-ing; despite how much I dislike the current situation, it wouldn't feel right.

Hey, you changed your signature. Also, what did the old one mean?

edited 18th Feb '11 7:42:25 PM by SammiJ

All Cretans are liars.—Epimenides the Cretan
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#534: Feb 18th 2011 at 7:48:42 PM

[up]Not only a princess, but a OVERPRINCESS, and the Cullens would be OVERDUKES and OVERDUCHESS, maybe a few OVERMARQUESS

The old signature was a quote from Luminosity Book 1 I think it was right after James started hunting Bella and she mused the possibility of being turned soon.

EDIT: Do you guys think that Addy is somehow "fond" (any other word sounds too strong) of Elspeth? Maybe due to Elspeth power? Dunno, I probably trying to see to much.

edited 18th Feb '11 7:49:54 PM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#535: Feb 18th 2011 at 11:45:10 PM

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Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#536: Feb 19th 2011 at 12:22:58 AM

[up] Glad I'm not the only one whose brain went there. :p

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#537: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:18:31 AM

I am surprised no one talked about Bella considering using Chelsea's power in Alec (and potentially others in the guard), can the power *snip* bad relationships too? I mean, making people stoping caring about they enemies?

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#538: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:36:02 AM

So far I think Chelsea can only see good relationships, with "hate" being "stuff not showing up".

¿Can a vampire regenerate their freaking brains if those are burnt away? Do we get some sort of infant?

edited 19th Feb '11 9:36:42 AM by Ardiente

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
SammiJ Since: Jun, 2010
#539: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:47:23 AM

I think that once the brain's gone, the vampire's gone.

Also, why was it so incredibly necessary to kill Jane? She's not pleasant, and her power is unfortunate, but it would be so much easier to keep Alec if they had kept Jane (without the morally dubious obligation to snip his relationship with his sister). Is Bella just allowing her death because she 'burned' Elspeth? That seems rather petty.

All Cretans are liars.—Epimenides the Cretan
Maridee from surfside Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#540: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:59:59 AM

Jane's the leader of the two, as well as being loyal to Aro and pretty screwed up. Alec's the follower and maybe a little more moldable. As symbols of the old regime, Jane at least needs to be gotten rid of, if not both of them.

edited 19th Feb '11 10:01:03 AM by Maridee

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#541: Feb 19th 2011 at 10:41:16 AM

There are lot of vampires that resent Jane, having her alive would be a reason to be feared, but killing her would generate serious popularity points (and not only with the romanians). Also: Personality Powers, she is has a sadistic nature that matches her power greatly, and I doubt that she would be easy to control even with constant Chelsea work.

Alec is evil, but he is much less chaotic and much more controlable than his sister, honestly, I think his power is more deadly (he can just blank people and kill them), but is more versatile in uses, while Jane can't be useful in anything else but in a fight, and even in a fight is morally dubious thing to use.

Honestly, I think if they still could use Chelsea's power, for a longer time, Jane could live... but she still a simbol of the old and ruthless ruleship.


I also was actually thinking, could a vampire be lobotomized? Remove all the annoying bit os the brain responsable for free will, and you get a constant power source for Addy. I am not saying that isn't something okay to be done, but I do wonder if it is possible.

edited 19th Feb '11 10:41:41 AM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#542: Feb 19th 2011 at 11:36:20 AM

Brainwashing for the Greater Good, huh? You have a Tau streak in you, aintcha?

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#543: Feb 19th 2011 at 12:31:07 PM

[up]The red-eyed overlords lost the benefit of compassion loooong time ago, if we consider they crimes alone, they should all be killed. However, alive they can provide a huge deal of benefit that can't would be impossible to have otherwise:

  • With Aro's power they can give the memories lost to the turning, literally giving back the life to a newborn.
  • With Alec's power they can neutralize enemies without serious injury and make the turning process painless.
  • And even with Chelsea's power they can at least create something to replace the lost relationships and might even be able to reform individuals that might need to be killed.

EDIT: That all said, it doesn't mean that I very confortable with the idea of lobotomized/brainwashed vampires been kept alive in a fate potentially worse than death only because they are useful.

edited 19th Feb '11 12:32:27 PM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Hermiethefrog Since: Jan, 2001
#544: Feb 19th 2011 at 2:51:43 PM

Off topic with the current set of posts, but somehow Bella's three questions keep popping up in the story I'm currently writing. Which is great because it's effective, but I have to remove some and edit them because I don't feel comfortable taking the three questions verbatim.

Basically, this story is influencing me. ...So...yay?

Alicorn Since: Aug, 2010
#545: Feb 19th 2011 at 5:28:24 PM

Please help yourself to the questions!

Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#546: Feb 19th 2011 at 7:18:23 PM

[up][up]Is not "So... yay". It is Win Yay! \o/

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
SammiJ Since: Jun, 2010
#547: Feb 19th 2011 at 7:22:19 PM

I just had an idea! Could they keep hands of people (like Aro, except they've already burned him) and infuse them with venom every now and again and so keep them 'alive'? Then they'd still have this nice selection of powers for Addy to borrow whenever necessary.

All Cretans are liars.—Epimenides the Cretan
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#548: Feb 19th 2011 at 7:33:24 PM

[up]I was actually thinking in ways to do that...

Venon seems to be able to cause scars in other vampires, it might work a bit a little like a blood transfusion, if you take too much blood you die because you immune sistem fights off.

They could still try though, maybe soaking it in blood might be more or less effective? Would freezing work? vampires are already very cold.

EDIT:

Also, I think a Golden-Eye could be the perfect simbol for THE QUEEN BELLA OF THE MOST ANCIENT AND NOBLE HOUSE OF CULLEN

edited 19th Feb '11 9:13:09 PM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#549: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:29:49 PM

A Golden Eye?

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"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn Since: Nov, 2009
the Ephemeral
#550: Feb 19th 2011 at 9:31:38 PM

I was wondering something...similar but more disgusting with blood and a full digestive tract. ...You could keep the torso!

The thing is, because of how stories work, we simply don't know if vampires need to use the bathroom, ever. Not that anyone would dare ask.

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