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edited 2nd Dec '13 9:48:19 PM by FastEddie

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Apr 23rd 2020 at 12:19:05 PM

Hello,

I was suspended from the US Politics thread and think that is unfair. In this case, I did my very best not to be impolite and not to put down people's posts. I said it was a matter of personal conscience not to do a certain thing [vote for Biden while otherwise voting Democrat] but that I understood people who believed it was valid otherwise. I repeatedly did my best to de-escalate things and not try to make it personal. I also tried to answer everyone's post regarding the subject.

There were no insults flung from my part or hostility while other people were very hostile to me (due to the fear many people rightfully have of a Trump Presidency).

Author of Agent G, The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters.
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 23rd 2020 at 12:25:03 PM

Do you perceive this matter the same way, when looked in the context of other warnings you have received?

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Apr 23rd 2020 at 12:32:05 PM

I've learned certain topics just need to be dropped absolutely. The Electoral College is a stupid hill to have died on and I'm grateful that you did point out my flaws there. I am glad you reminded me that we mostly agree 90% of our politics here and that I should drop it.

But I felt pretty bullied there. I should point out in those pages that I was called [without hyperbole] stupid, morally indefensible, a lunatic, and they even used a link to "The Reason You Suck" Speech when talking about me.

I did not return any of those insults and wonder if it was noted how hostile the treatment of me was. I feel a bit singled out when I didn't see anyone else given warnings for personal attacks and I didn't make any.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Apr 23rd 2020 at 12:37:12 PM

Author of Agent G, The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters.
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 23rd 2020 at 1:12:55 PM

~Gregster101, your suspension is released.

nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 23rd 2020 at 1:14:00 PM

~JoiningReaper, I was actually just waiting on you to pop back in. I haven't seen you active in the localization thread, despite my encouragement here. Did you just observe?

Edited by nombretomado on Apr 23rd 2020 at 1:14:31 AM

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Apr 23rd 2020 at 1:20:02 PM

One lesson I did learn and wish I had learned sooner is just not to participate in any discussion beyond one page.

And I accept any judgement made.

No one benefits from them and it's stupid to continue. :( I should have realized that earlier.

Author of Agent G, The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters.
JoiningReaper The Wise but Stupid. from My Laptop. Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Wise but Stupid.
Apr 23rd 2020 at 2:15:20 PM

nombretomado, yeah, I just observed. Did want to ask a question involving the reason for my suspension (since it was due to a "localisation"), but I decided against it in fear of stirring up trouble. I'd rather not push my luck, even if it's okay.

Edited by JoiningReaper on Apr 23rd 2020 at 10:18:08 AM

Here to be lazy, depressed, shy and eager to correct.
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 23rd 2020 at 4:08:39 PM

~JoiningReaper, OK, that's your choice. I understand not wanting to push it (a question about suspension directly would probably not be OK, while something as an explainer might just be context-setting - like "I was suspended for [x], and have a question about how to avoid [x] in the future given [z]"), but I truly do think it can be of benefit to you. I will release your suspension. Best of luck.

nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 23rd 2020 at 5:54:12 PM

~CharlesPhipps, while I can only speak for myself, I know I opted to issue a broad warning to the thread as a whole because it was essentially 80% of the thread who needed to back down to various degrees.

As for you particularly, I wish it hadn't been this topic specifically, because it is extraordinarily sensitive, but it did demonstrate lack of judgment on your part that we had warned you on before, enough that I (because it was me who pulled the suspension trigger) felt that you had walked past the line we had drawn for you many times before.

I'd like to let this one sit for a bit, because I think there's going to be additional discussion about that whole conversation.

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Apr 23rd 2020 at 5:57:30 PM

I hope you'll eventually remove my suspension but you are correct I have been warned before and I made a mistake. I should have left the conversation much earlier. I hope you do take my apology as sincere.

I am very sorry about everything.

Thank you for your reply.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Apr 23rd 2020 at 5:57:41 AM

Author of Agent G, The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters.
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 24th 2020 at 7:18:42 PM

~CharlesPhipps, in discussing this with the other mods, and we agree on a few things. Firstly is that your suspension was appropriate. Secondly, however, is that the circumstances around it were terribly messy, and we're not pleased with how that conversation went for many parties who did not behave appropriately towards you either, regardless of the merits of your own behavior.

For that reason, we think it would be best for you to have 1-month hiatus from OTC. You can come back after a month has passed, and we can talk about anything else before we go through on a suspension release. Agreed?

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 24th 2020 at 7:36:57 PM

Good to hear. See you in a month.

Apr 25th 2020 at 5:41:31 AM

Helllo, I am Atinubu 16.

I have been suspended for my use of poor edits. Since leaving months ago, I have offically learned my lesson and made edits under Angusman 2002.

Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Lost in Space
Apr 25th 2020 at 5:53:19 AM

[up] No, you violated our explicit rule about ban evasion. There is no point having any further conversation with you.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Apr 25th 2020 at 10:38:01 AM

Hi, I assume I was suspended for edit warring, which is discussed in this thread.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=87085&type=att

I think we already cleared up the misunderstanding. Do we need to do anything else?

Apr 25th 2020 at 10:13:13 PM

As I'm just noticing this post/response now, I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. But first of all, I wasn't aware of the Luminescent Blush trope. Second of all, if that's really what the problem has been all along, then I'm not the only one who has been putting examples of human characters changing colors facially or bodily on the Through A Face Fullof Fur page. Other users have been doing it too. I don't know if you or somebody else mentioned the same thing to any, other users, but if not, why am I being singled out for this? All the human examples on Through A Face Fullof Fur should be moved to Luminescent Blush then, if that's the case. But from now on, I'll try to keep this in mind. I apologize for that too. I'm going to copy and paste this post in the section of the forum where I'm supposed to post. I'm even offering to move all the human examples to Luminescent Blush myself.

MrDuckington The Spellchecker of Hatred from Red Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Spellchecker of Hatred
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:12:31 PM

Hello. I was attempting to edit this page when I got the notice that I was suspended. I'm not sure what exactly I did. If it was something I was warned about before, I'd like a refresher. If it's something else, I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong.

I hhhhate everyone and the sentiment is shared
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:17:54 PM

~MrDuckington, we typically let Tropers pages alone, but when it came to our attention that you chose to use yours to rant about decisions and specific tropers, we need to have a discussion about what's appropriate.

MrDuckington The Spellchecker of Hatred from Red Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Spellchecker of Hatred
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:20:14 PM

So the problem was my open stating of grievances. Okay, that's fair I suppose.

Edited by MrDuckington on Apr 26th 2020 at 12:25:31 PM

I hhhhate everyone and the sentiment is shared
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:22:17 PM

"Grievances" is not typically how I would categorize telling people to "fuck off".

Releasing your suspension is contingent on you immediately removing this material from your troper page and an agreement to behave civilly in public spaces, even when it comes to people and decisions you don't like.

Edited by nombretomado on Apr 26th 2020 at 9:27:20 AM

MrDuckington The Spellchecker of Hatred from Red Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Spellchecker of Hatred
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:25:02 PM

Alright, that I can do. I solemly swear I will not express my disdain of other tropers in public spots of this site.

I hhhhate everyone and the sentiment is shared
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:26:28 PM

Your suspension is released.

nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Apr 26th 2020 at 9:27:15 PM

~CaptainCrawdad, I was following that ATT and am a little confused as well, since it seems like there was a discussion going on. Lemme ping ~Willbyr.

TheBestTroperInTheWorld Sexiest Troper Alive from Beverly Hills Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Sexiest Troper Alive
Apr 26th 2020 at 10:22:23 PM

I've been suspended long enough, please un-suspend me

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