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This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who have received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.

If you're suspended, give What to Do If You Are Suspended a read, then post here to begin your appeal. We try to respond to appeals in order via batch posts every few days. If a moderator has responded to your appeal, you will receive a notification in your private messages, even if you're suspended from PMs.

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  • Don't make another account to try and get around your suspension. This is called ban evasion and will get you bounced. (Again, read What to Do If You Are Suspended if you don't know what these words mean.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 30th 2025 at 11:56:51 AM

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#1926: Oct 3rd 2012 at 2:21:31 PM

Because of a couple of things. One, this. What the hell?

Two, we've observed some poor grammar in your edits. You need to improve that a bit.

Although I think I incorrectly suspended you from wiki activity; it should have been the other guy.

edited 3rd Oct '12 2:23:23 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
#1927: Oct 3rd 2012 at 2:42:17 PM

He started a YKKTW that he latter didn't like and was probably embarrassed about (as such I don't want to elaborate that part further). So he scrapped it. However it gave me an idea for a trope loosely connected with his. However, he wrongly thought I was mocking him. Given how long his message is, I assume he saw it almost instantly meaning that he saw it before I refined the laconic and he probably didn't read the article, giving him the wrong idea of what the trope was about. If you read all the comments you would know we already sorted the issue out. I then edited my comments to make what he was talking about seem more obscure under the assumption he would do the same and the whole issue would be swept under the rug leaving his scrapped YKKTW forgotten. I Also I have been told about my bad grammar and have put more effort into using proper grammar, english isn't exactly a type of thing I'm good at, and usually spend a large amount of time making sure my edits have decent grammar. If my recent edits don't have good enough grammar then my ban is just going to have to be permanent.

edited 3rd Oct '12 2:43:38 PM by captainsandwich

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#1928: Oct 3rd 2012 at 2:48:20 PM

I am not going to ban you from the wiki. Your grammar can be worked on. However, if that's the kind of thing you think would make a good YKTTW, I'm going to have to lock you out of that area of the wiki. We don't need more tropes related to Mary Sue and/or other fan opinions. We have way too many of those as it is.

That other troper... yeah. We'll be chatting with him separately.

Oh, and here's the English help thread. You may want to consult it.

edited 3rd Oct '12 2:49:42 PM by Fighteer

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captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
#1929: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:04:35 PM

"The trope is primarily about resenting someone because (s)he is better at than others at their best trait(s)." and by resenting I meant a character resenting another, equally fictitious character. That doesn't have much to do with a fan's opinion on anything. Its not even compatible with some interpretations on what a Mary Sue is! Thats why one of my comments was asking if it needed the better name tag. I would appreciate it if you didn't just scrap my YKTT Ws before talking to me first.

edited 3rd Oct '12 3:08:12 PM by captainsandwich

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#1930: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:10:00 PM

"Everyone's jealous because she's just too perfect" is Mary Sue, period. Jealousy over someone being better than everyone else at stuff is The Resenter. Look at Envy and Jealousy Tropes.

I'm a mod. I have the power to discard YKTTW's that I think aren't going anywhere. The fact that this thing started out with a childish spat between you and this other troper was icing on the cake.

The problem we have with YKTTW is exactly these kinds of noise entries that make it hard to find good tropes in all the clutter.

edited 3rd Oct '12 3:10:52 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
#1931: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:14:59 PM

Just cause you can do things doesn't mean you should. My frustration is making me considering leaving the wiki, is there a way for me to delete my handle in case I decide to go through with it?

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#1932: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:17:33 PM

No, there is not. If this bugs you, then be warned that we're about to do a cleaning pass on YKTTW. There's a lot of disappoinment about to happen.

edited 3rd Oct '12 3:18:11 PM by Fighteer

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#1934: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:27:33 PM

It means that some of the Mods are going through YKTTW and getting rid of ones that don't meet our standards.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
#1935: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:47:42 PM

Seeing that my ban has been lifted except in YKTTW has left me frustrated enough that I am leaving the wiki, for quite a while at least. Its been fun.

owlwarrorforaslan5 pony an transformer girl from Narnia Since: Oct, 2012
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#1936: Oct 3rd 2012 at 4:13:42 PM

My editing abilities have been suspended- I think it might be because of an extremely rude reply I gave someone on the YKTTW. When I first looked at it, I thought its was a mocking response to a YKTTW I had posted before; said YKTTW has been disgarded by me. After I made this reply to his YKTTW, he replied back, explaining that it was in no way mocking me. I realize that even if it had been a mockery of my YKTTW (which it wasn't), the reply I made was still completely uncalled for, and I apologize for making such a reply. If my editing abilities have been suspended for another reason however, I apologize for that as well and would like to know what I did wrong, so that it will not happen again. I am sorry for anything I did wrong, and I really would like to be able to edit again.

[update] I didn't read the posts before, and I just read through them and I realized that the reason I've been suspended really is because of what I said to Captainsandwich. I apologize for that reply. I realize now that we do not need anymore Sue tropes, I am sorry for making a YKTTW about Sues. It was too subjective, and there are already enough Sue tropes. The reply I made to him was absolutely unacceptable, and after reading the above posts I believe it is my fault Captainsandwich is leaving the wiki. I should not have been so rude with my reply, and should have asked politely if it was responding to the YKTTW I had posted. The cruelty in that comment was not deserved. I know it is too late to take back that reply, but I do apologize, and I would like to be allowed to edit again.

edited 3rd Oct '12 4:32:15 PM by owlwarrorforaslan5

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#1937: Oct 3rd 2012 at 4:20:08 PM

@owlwarrorforaslan5: I've observed a tendency toward hysteria and hyperbole in your presence here. You got thumped for an obnoxious rant in the racism thread, and I found some natter and This Troper to your name as well. And, of course, that ridiculous diatribe on YKTTW.

I'm sensing this tendency in some people to treat YKTTW like a social club, where status accrues to launching more tropes than anyone else, regardless of quality. That has to stop, as does this petty infighting. At least you're willing to be polite about it, which is a plus.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
owlwarrorforaslan5 pony an transformer girl from Narnia Since: Oct, 2012
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#1938: Oct 3rd 2012 at 4:34:38 PM

I am sorry for the obnoxious post, natter, this troper, the rude YKTTW response, and bad YKTTW. I will do my best to avoid these in the future.

I think I'm staying away from actual editing for a while, and the forums. I'll just look at the site.

edited 3rd Oct '12 4:37:53 PM by owlwarrorforaslan5

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InfinityOrNone Since: Jun, 2010
#1939: Oct 3rd 2012 at 7:54:03 PM

Seriously, could you explain why I'm banned?

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#1940: Oct 4th 2012 at 2:19:58 AM

@Infinity Or None: Using sockpuppets to whine.

edited 4th Oct '12 2:20:30 AM by Deadbeatloser22

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Zeanobia (she/her) Sanity is overrated from My house Since: Mar, 2012
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#1941: Oct 4th 2012 at 5:56:42 AM

Ermm...?

#nolivesmatter
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#1942: Oct 4th 2012 at 6:53:09 AM

@Zeanobia: I'll give you another shot. I hope you recognize now that we have zero tolerance for deliberate defiance of staff decisions. Our primary concern here is keeping the wiki running smoothly, not to punish people, but that kind of behavior is a guaranteed way to get on our bad side.

@owlwarrorforaslan5: If you want to have a self-imposed time-out, that's up to you. I'm willing to let you edit again if you agree to follow the rules. I'd like you to stay out of YKTTW.

@Infinity Or None: We have very strong evidence that you were using a sockpuppet to complain about the content policy. There are some things we can be lenient about and some we can't, and using socks to bitch is one of the latter.

edited 4th Oct '12 7:00:58 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
noman Since: Jul, 2012
#1943: Oct 4th 2012 at 8:19:33 AM

A response to Fighter

First off I am not a ban evader. I have edited on this wiki off and on for years without incident *

. However I did not edit for about a year. I was preoccupied with other things. When I came back I could not find my old account. I had to created a new one to edit. That is why my account started in July. The only similarities I can see between me and the person you are accusing me of being is that we both like the show Double Dare 1986. Looking at your complaints about him it seems like he actually has the opposite problem with sentence length. If I was trying to get around a ban then why would I be trying to appeal the suspension? Since I do not have a set location the I.P. address is always different. I could easily make a new account if I wanted to, but I want to keep this one.

Secondly, I know this wiki has guidelines. I have always tried to follow them. I looked over all the edits I have made with this account. I have had 2 word corrected *

in one edit, and one more* in a different article. Also you are the first person on this site to complain about my grammar. Ironically the person who changed it has worse grammar then me in some areas.

Thirdly, I usually try to come to a compromise. However since I was banned right after the edit I assumed Azul was responsible by claiming I was sockpuppeting. Sorry if I came across as a bit defensive, but I did not do anything wrong. I have had a tough couple of days. We are interring crunch time while down in the polls. This site is one of the few ways I can relax now. That is why being banned might have made me a little irritable. I am going to ask you nicely Fighter to please reinstate me, or at least tell me what I did wrong. I am just a girl who likes seeing truthful information, and wants to edit again.

edited 4th Oct '12 8:34:06 AM by noman

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#1944: Oct 4th 2012 at 8:34:01 AM

Sorry, I'm not buying it. Let's take Wounded Gazelle Gambit. You made the exact same edit as ranon did in May. ranon was banned as a sock of hartbreak, and other handles in that little cluster include RAF and pleasehelp. Ranonamis overlaps with RAF. Ranonames has the same IP ranges and overlaps with your current handle.

So, you expect me to believe that you are, by coincidence, editing from the exact same location(s) as these other banned handles, who are the only handles on those IP addresses, and who coincidentally made the exact same crap edits that you did?

Pull the other one, it talks.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
InfinityOrNone Since: Jun, 2010
#1945: Oct 4th 2012 at 8:49:26 AM

@Fighteer @Deadbeatloser

I have no idea what you're talking about. For one thing, I don't need a sockpuppet to wine about content policy. That's why I have my profile page set up as a "TV Tropes policy changes suck" statement thingy. Secondly, I think you guys have the wrong person. I've been staying with family for the past couple weeks. Either someone's been using my computer while I was away or one of my family members (more than a few of them being fellow tropers) did it while I was staying with them. Check my IP if you don't believe me.

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#1946: Oct 4th 2012 at 8:57:36 AM

Unfortunately, we can't tell the difference between someone else using your computer to bitch at us and you doing it yourself. That plus the fact that you are a self-admitted opponent of the content policy makes your protestations of innocence kind of ridiculous. "My brother/roommate must have done it" doesn't fly. I'm afraid that your ban will remain.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
1046190 Since: Sep, 2012
#1947: Oct 4th 2012 at 8:59:27 AM

I think I understand what I did wrong. May I please have my editing privileges back? And my PM system turned on.

edited 4th Oct '12 9:00:10 AM by 1046190

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#1948: Oct 4th 2012 at 9:05:30 AM

No. We never agreed to unban Classy Myths, and using a sockpuppet to circumvent your ban doesn't fly. You are ban evading, which means we aren't going to negotiate.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
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#1949: Oct 4th 2012 at 9:09:10 AM

@1046190: First, you deleted an entry on Awesome.AvengersVsX-Men because you disagreed with it. That's not how we do things on those pages. You don't get to dictate what other people find awesome.

Second, we have strong evidence that you are ban evading. ClassyMyths ring a bell?

Edit: Ninjaed.

edited 4th Oct '12 9:09:26 AM by Fighteer

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#1950: Oct 4th 2012 at 11:30:28 AM

I understand why my editing priviliges were revoked and I'm sorry if you took my actions as vandalism. It was not intended that way.

Long story short, I wrote a web original and decided to take it down and erase every trace of it. The story no longer exists, so having pages about it is reduntant. I was only doing this wiki a favour. All I wanted was control over my own content, really.

Please, can someone help me out? I need to discuss the matter privately with someone who has control over things such as editing privileges. I'm hoping to get the chance to prove that I am indeed the author of the story and have my edits reversed. I was only editing the pages that are related to it (only the bits about it, nothing else). I've already sent a PM, but please, can someone help? I only made edits regarding the story (which I wrote), nothing else.


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