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edited 2nd Dec '13 9:48:19 PM by FastEddie

May 11th 2019 at 7:38:50 AM

~Septimus Heap Thank you. But it appears I am still suspended from editing. Is there a wait period or something like that? I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with how suspension works on this site.

gc10 from Earth for sure Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
May 12th 2019 at 12:35:21 AM

Hello, I noticed I got a suspention, but I haven't received any messages. What's the reason behind it?

I assumed it might have been because of the launching of "Master Forger", since I didn't contribuited to the trope during its editing (although in the discussions the editor said it was free for launching for anybody who wanted) and I didn't do the crosswick. On that, I wanted only to work with caution in on it, since I wasn't sure right away how to correctly add the examples, in which sections, how to edit them, etc...

Or is there another reason? Thanks in advance.

Edited by gc10 on May 12th 2019 at 10:57:27 AM

Just as i thought, JUST AS I THOUGHT.
May 13th 2019 at 5:10:31 AM

I am being suspended, again. Was it because of the Zero Context thing? And also am I permanently suspended?

May 13th 2019 at 5:12:16 AM

You see Iím trying to edit a deleted page only to get a message that I am suspended. I already have contexts for two tropes and I know what to write on the descriptions. Could it be because of this, too? Iíve also added a deleted page now with contexts for tropes and descriptions, too.

Edited by FragWall on May 13th 2019 at 5:14:06 AM

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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May 13th 2019 at 12:44:30 PM

Know what's really weird? Being banned on the forums, and having that carried over into Ask The Tropers and trope discussion pages. Did you guys intend that to happen when updating this site?

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
May 13th 2019 at 1:10:58 PM

~nomuru2d: <Sigh> Another bug. Fix requested.

~Frag Wall: Your edit on Blood Meridian says otherwise. We need some explanation of why the example applies.

~gc10: The ban reason says that you rogue launched this TLP, but the discussion there does not quite align with the complaint ... ~Berrenta?

~purplemudkip098: Sorry, it seems like I fail at clicking "Save".

~High Crate (~nombretomado): The problem I see is that not many of us have commented on your case.

gc10 from Earth for sure Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
May 13th 2019 at 1:21:37 PM

I can't view the TLP discussion because of the ban, but I remind some people along the last posts claiming that the Trope was free to launch for anybody. Or did I seriously misunderstood what they meant?

Just as i thought, JUST AS I THOUGHT.
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
May 13th 2019 at 1:24:43 PM

~High Crate: You have been released for general forum posting, but Long Term Projects will stay off for a while.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on May 13th 2019 at 10:26:18 AM

May 13th 2019 at 2:45:34 PM

Oh damn, I forgot about that one. I meant to add context for Darker and Edgier but at that time I was busy reviewing other pages as well. Iíll be more careful next time.

Is that the only one or is there another?

May 13th 2019 at 3:55:59 PM

I guess I'm confused about what more time is going to solve that the last month or so hasn't.

I was being sincere when I said that I'd like my suspension from Projects to be released, and for you guys to consider that a good decision. The one is kind of useless without the other. If you were to release my Projects suspension tomorrow, I wouldn't want to go back to posting in the Unreleased Works Speculation Cleanup thread without more of a conversation than we've had. Because to be honest I'm still not feeling super confident in my understanding of what you'd expect from me once I'm back there.

I've given you a bullet-point list of actions I've already taken (and fully intend to maintain if released) to address your concerns. Apparently that's not enough. Okay, fine. What are we missing? Let's talk about it. I don't see how another three weeks of silence is going to solve this. Talking might. So let's talk.

Berrenta MOD Nya~ from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Nya~
May 13th 2019 at 6:57:52 PM

~gc10: It seems that the OP was allowing anyone to launch, but when someone who never participated does the honors, it's hard for us to determine that it wasn't "yet another rogue launch". It would have helped if you gave notice beforehand.

May 13th 2019 at 7:12:44 PM

Iím guessing not adhering to my low salt diet is what got me suspended from private messaging. I promise to cut out all the salt this time. And like I said, while I think itís better to explain on the characters page, Iíll add descriptions to the main page.

Apparently youíre supposed to put some witty quote here.
gc10 from Earth for sure Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
May 13th 2019 at 11:30:45 PM

Thanks for the answer. I'm sorry, I really thought it wouldn't have been a problem for me to take the initiative, but I'll remember to ask/notice before doing such things. May I be unbanned?

Edited by gc10 on May 13th 2019 at 8:31:18 PM

Just as i thought, JUST AS I THOUGHT.
May 14th 2019 at 3:27:40 AM

How long will I be suspended?

May 14th 2019 at 3:28:07 AM

I learned my mistakes.

Berrenta MOD Nya~ from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Nya~
May 14th 2019 at 6:20:29 AM

~gc10: Since you get it, I'll release you.

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May 14th 2019 at 6:43:32 AM

~Frag Wall: It doesn't seem like you have learned from your mistakes. After I released your suspension in April, you did improve some of the work articles we discussed, but you continued adding zero-context examples and creating more stub work pages (like From The Fatherland With Love) despite being warned about it by other tropers.

You seem to think you're doing a valuable service by creating articles for works that we don't have on the wiki. This is true, and indeed we are grateful for it, but unless you do the work properly, you're just forcing people to follow along behind you cleaning it up.

If this were a first offense, it'd be one thing, but you kept doing it after promising to improve. I don't think this is going to work out.

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May 14th 2019 at 7:30:43 AM

But I did add descriptions and contexts for Fatherland? I donít understand.

Edited by FragWall on May 14th 2019 at 7:30:58 AM

May 14th 2019 at 7:32:44 AM

Plus I was suspended first time because I was being rude, not because of Zero Context. Also, even when I add contexts to it, I came back to find that it was cut out. Why is that?

May 14th 2019 at 7:34:21 AM

And I donít understand what you meant by this: ďThis is true, and indeed we are grateful for it, but unless you do the work properly, you're just forcing people to follow along behind you cleaning it up.Ē

May 14th 2019 at 3:09:25 PM

So does this mean Iím permanently suspended, then?

May 14th 2019 at 3:15:38 PM

Will you give me another chance? Or is it too late for me?

Berrenta MOD Nya~ from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Nya~
May 14th 2019 at 4:32:00 PM

~Frag Wall, please cool it with the consecutive posts. That is not doing you any favors, and it only serves to pester us. Here's the deal: we mods have daily lives, so we can't watch over this thread 24/7.

I'll discuss with the staff about your fate. We'll get back to you when we can.

May 15th 2019 at 2:32:27 AM

May I please edit again? I'll add descriptions for the Shivers page, and I concede that I haven't read many of the books so there aren't many tropes I can add for the characters (though I still plan on making a Characters page for the ones I am familiar with), meaning it's better to explain on the main one.

Apparently youíre supposed to put some witty quote here.
AnoBakaDesu Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
May 15th 2019 at 1:55:00 PM

So this is my second suspension. First time was for stubbornly going against a consensus in Ask The Tropers years ago. Now for repeated rudeness (of which I acknowledge is ironic, given I have gotten another troper suspended a month ago for exactly that).

There's hardly any excuse from me here. I should stop with the hostile and snippy edit reasons, especially when I am in no position to do so. "Backseat Modding", as Arsenal_Gear correctly pointed out the issue with me.

"Rule #1 of TVTropes Customs: Don't be a dick" is something that has escaped me while passionately editing, and has now come back to bite me hard.

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