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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 30th 2025 at 11:56:51 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#16276: Feb 27th 2018 at 8:05:19 PM

Only post here if you have something constructive to say - you have a genuine question, you think you're ready to have your suspension lifted, etc. We really do not like it when suspended tropers repeatedly post without addressing what we have told them.

andrew369 Since: Apr, 2012
#16277: Feb 27th 2018 at 8:23:27 PM

~Nombretomado

Alright. Thanks again.

I'll do my best to improve my English in that thread but no promises if it is still the same. But regardless I do my best to improve.

TheKaizerreich An Ice Girl Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
An Ice Girl
#16278: Feb 28th 2018 at 3:52:08 AM

~Nombretomado

"It's not uncommon for editors to frequent certain pages. If your tastes overlap, then it's bound to happen. You are also not in a position to make demands like this, especially not without evidence."

It was not a demand, merely aquestion. Regardless of that, I am sorry for overlooking this possibility.

"(I'm assuming you mean 'treat'). The wiki is a collaborative effort, and every troper has a right to edit a page. "This way" is...what, exactly? Editing? Edit warring? Disagreeing with you? It's hard to parse what, exactly, made you so upset, except that based on the 'stalking' accusation it's the third one."

Yes, this refered to the assumed stalking. As you have pointed out the flaw in my reasoning, this no longer applies.

"As a participant in the disputed example, you are by default invited to the conversation. No gilded invitation necessary. The edit reason with the ATT note was made on Feb. 16. You were suspended on Feb. 17."

I was not aware this to be the case, I will remember it in the future.

"I don't even want to touch the leftist propaganda accusation with a 10 foot pole, frankly, so let me just comment on the edits on YMMV.Black Panther 2018 that brought this whole thing up. You can hold the political opinion that you hold, but attempting to shoehorn that opinion by misusing tropes is a violation of our rules. This, coupled with other edits (such as on Main.So What Do We Do Now) make us believe that you, at best, don't much care for the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment in the name of "improving" the wiki."

To be honest, in some cases I fail to see why certain things are allowed on the Wiki and others are not; to me it often appears arbitrary. If you do not want me to write examples that contain criticism (of the flaws) of feminism, then I will no longer do so.

I do not intend to start a fight, I am just a little blunt and need an explanation for things I do not understand. If you do not want me to do certain things, I will do so, will look up and read the rules again, and promise to improve myself in the future. Is this acceptable?

edited 28th Feb '18 3:54:18 AM by TheKaizerreich

IgneousPoppy Since: Aug, 2017
#16279: Feb 28th 2018 at 4:37:48 PM

~Nombretomado I'm sorry, I shan't do it again.[nja]

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#16281: Feb 28th 2018 at 6:40:44 PM

~TheKaizerreich, please familiarize yourself with the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment, particularly this part:

"When something is posted that stands firmly on one side of a hot-button debate (political bickering being the huge one, followed closely by religion, with interpretations of Mind Screws running a close third), the editing machine will grind it back down or even kill it outright."

This may explain your perception that "certain things" are allowed, while others aren't. You stated earlier that you see "extreme bias" all over the place, but replacing that bias with your own opinion is not a solution. Our policy is simple: if you can't figure out a way to write an example neutrally, then don't write it at all. That goes for all tropers, and not just you.

TheKaizerreich An Ice Girl Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
An Ice Girl
#16282: Feb 28th 2018 at 8:48:14 PM

Alright, I will do that. Is there anything else I should be aware of?

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#16283: Feb 28th 2018 at 8:51:56 PM

No, that's all. Your suspension is released with a last exhortation to always do a second glanceover on political edits before hitting Save. Thanks for coming in.

bellemoonflower Since: Feb, 2015
#16284: Mar 1st 2018 at 3:05:59 AM

@Nombretomado: Understood. I will be more careful next time.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#16285: Mar 1st 2018 at 6:08:43 AM

[up]your suspension has been released.

FlamingSamurai from Pennsylvania, USA Since: May, 2017
#16286: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:44:39 AM

A few months ago, I was suspended for starting an edit war on the YMMV / MLP Analysis page. I noticed a huge section of the page had been deleted and I didn’t know why. I was new to TV Tropes at the time and didn’t think to consult any of the sites moderators on why. Instead, I tried to restore the sections that were gone and the edits were erased soon afterwards. I decided to take some time away from TV Tropes, as I didn’t want to cause any trouble and I honestly didn’t know any better what I was doing. Now, I would like to request my suspension be lifted so I can edit again as long as I promise not to start another edit war.

Berrenta MOD Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#16287: Mar 1st 2018 at 11:21:03 AM

~Flaming Samurai

Have you even acknowledged Fighteer's response here? Looking at your post, you may not have. We prefer that you stay engaged in conversation with us if you want to edit again.

To reiterate what was said: you were here for edit warring, specifically with tropes involving real-life people.

FlamingSamurai from Pennsylvania, USA Since: May, 2017
#16288: Mar 1st 2018 at 12:42:50 PM

@Berrenta My apologies for not staying more active; I just had things in real life I had to deal with. And yes, the edit war was on an article involving real-life people. At the time, I was not aware that topics like The Scrappy or Rescued From the Scrappy Heap were applicable only to fictional characters and not real life people (as I was told, this site is mainly about tropes regarding people's work and not the people themselves, unless they're a celebrity). I didn't mean to cause any trouble with what I was doing; I was just confused as to why that portion of the page was deleted and just didn't know any better. I tried to respond to Fighteer, but accidentally did so by private messaging instead of on the board like it's supposed to be.

edited 2nd Mar '18 5:24:21 AM by FlamingSamurai

jokevv Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
#16289: Mar 1st 2018 at 6:19:52 PM

I would like to to see or be pointed to a example of my natter to contrast and learn how not to make such a mistake. My desire is to return to the trope community as soon as possible and believe seeing exactly what in my edit's constituted natter. (I ask for specific or deleted example's because I assumed most of entries were natter and thus deleted yet, through Wiki walks, I discovered that most edit's or addition of mine were still in place.)

edited 1st Mar '18 6:22:11 PM by jokevv

snowypanda Since: Mar, 2018
#16290: Mar 2nd 2018 at 8:13:08 AM

Hi I just started out a couple days ago, I just wanted to know why I got suspended. Thank you. smile

snowypanda Since: Mar, 2018
#16291: Mar 2nd 2018 at 8:16:53 AM

It appears I have a new message in the inbox, however the PM has has also been disabled...

Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#16292: Mar 2nd 2018 at 8:24:59 AM

[up] Snowypanda: When we suspend you, it doesn't mean to make a bunch of new accounts to evade the suspension. That gets you permanently banned.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
snowypanda Since: Mar, 2018
Berrenta MOD Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#16294: Mar 2nd 2018 at 11:08:32 AM

When you are suspended, the right thing to do is come here, to this thread. We have zero tolerance on someone getting around their ban by making another account.

Ban evading is one way to blow all chances of coming back. Thus, we have one word to tell you now: Goodbye.

PlasmaTalon Since: Mar, 2015
#16295: Mar 2nd 2018 at 12:46:49 PM

Hello, I got my suspension notice. I'm aware that I have a bad habit of "rapid editing" or, "oh wait I could phrase that better lemme go back and change that", and sticking to pages that like, like the "For Honor" "Total War: Warhammer" videogames pages like glue. If there is anything I could do in addition to stopping these behaviors that would earn my editing privileges back please let me know.

Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#16296: Mar 2nd 2018 at 7:26:35 PM

~Plasma Talon: Your suspension was for grammar issues; aside from the occasional misspelling, you have a noticeable tendency to create sentence fragments when you're writing your examples.

PlasmaTalon Since: Mar, 2015
#16297: Mar 3rd 2018 at 4:27:23 AM

I'm very sorry, i had assumed my violations were limited to spelling errors. I was trying to avoid making run on sentences in most cases, and promise to be more attentive from now on. Grammar aside is there any other behavior i need to correct, or could improve on?

UtterKoala Since: Mar, 2017
#16298: Mar 3rd 2018 at 5:22:01 AM

May I please have my suspension lifted? I won’t be back for a while, either way.

GasterThePro Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#16299: Mar 3rd 2018 at 5:25:56 AM

Hello. I’ve been under an editing suspension for almost a year now. I’ve posted in these forums before, but I did not get anywhere. I listed tropes incorrectly, as I neglected to put them in alphabetical order, and I also for some reason thought it was ok to make multiple accounts to give hats to a page. As this has been, in my opinion, a far from excessive amount of time to be under a ban, I request once more to have my editing privileges returned.

Berrenta MOD Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#16300: Mar 3rd 2018 at 4:59:10 PM

~Utter Koala

Care to explain what sparked your flameout in the CM thread?

~Gaster The Pro

We do not have a set time for when suspensions will be lifted. We release you when we can trust that you won't make the same mistakes.

To discourage using those sock accounts, those socks you made are permabanned. Since you finally came back after several months and acknowledged the sock issue, I'll release you. Please don't have us drag you back in here.


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