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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
Lost in Space
@04801: I'm sorry, but I think you need an editing break of a good long duration, where you spend enough time reading the wiki to get a feel for what we are about. You do not get to change whatever you want just because you don't understand it.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Do the wiki rules say that I must notify before editing something?
Lost in Space
Not as such, but individual users are not permitted to redefine tropes without seeking consensus. We have a lot of avenues of communication: discussion pages, Ask The Tropers, these forums, and more. Simply asking would have gotten you out of a lot of trouble.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ghost101
What are you talking about? I’ve been following the rules. NOBODY told me to stop doing whatever it is I’m doing. If I see a grammatical mistake (which is frequent), I will correct it as stated in the editing forum. I am also inclined to add correct namespaces as needed as well as crosswicking. If I see something is amiss, I will alert somebody like when a troper kept adding an example that’s not related to what the trope is supposed to be.
And the fact there's somebody who keeps buthering up somebody's hard work and messing it up is another factor, and as a result, I am bombed by repetitive messages complaining about this tropeer who keeps messing things up. And if you're able to read private messages (which should be private and thus intruding if your capable of reading them), you should be able to read the last couple of them.
Well, I mean there would be some duplicates or pages very similar, so I just felt things needed to revolve around the basic/given definition more to clear up potential confusion, but I can say I won't change like half of the page or something or just notify beforehand, if you wont revert everything back to normal? I mean I dont think I trolled all the pages I went on (I thought I didn't with any).
Hi
@ Ghost101: Who, specifically, have you been getting PMs from about St Fan's edits on these pages? I want to get that cleared up before proceeding further, because I've been going over the histories of some of those pages you pinged me about and I'm not seeing anything he's done that's out of whack with our page formatting guidelines.
edited 11th Feb '14 2:43:06 PM by Willbyr
Ghost101
Looking under the histories, most of it no doubt got deleted because there was more to it! Such commentary even saying unholy things!
And like I said in the private message (Or close to it . . . I think), I have come across pages (as the examples I provided) where there’s the use of that slash thing, (which, if I remember correctly, can be used) instead of bullets and, in my opinion, looked neater. So I went with examples on what other people have done.
Some of the people who kept harassing me with repetitive messages are marapropa64, Phil Pickles 009, dreamwish57, mlsmithca, Tuckerscreator as well as some others but I got rid of some messages.
Other than that, I don’t understand why I’m being accused of such things that I cannot comprehend. I’ve started that Peabody and Sherman page without any complaint, I’ve started A Gnome named Gnorm without any problems along with other examples as well as crosswicking, editing, adding and any other examples.
edited 11th Feb '14 3:14:24 PM by Ghost101
Alright, alright, I'll also provide the reason for the edits in the history and if I want to add to the definition, go to the discussion forum first. Anything else besides flooding criticism of how bad my edits are?
Hi
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Well, I can tell you right off the bat that those first three handles are (banned) sockpuppets of Nate Spidgewood, so anything said by them can be disregarded...he's not-so-openly stalked St Fan and a few other tropers and caused havoc on pages they've worked on.
Ghost101
Hehe, I JUST sent you a message . . . ^^;
Anyways, there's also the tendency (which is OFTEN) where tropers will type a comma or period or such outside the parenthesis (say "Hello Bob".) which isn't proper grammar. When I edit them ("Hello Bob."), stating that ti's not correct, people still change it back.
As I stated before, I've seen people use those slashes which I also use but St Fan ALWAYS delete them!!!
Not to mention the examples I showed you:
- Bullet names of characters that aren’t really necessary considering there are other pages that don’t bullet character names like Xiaolin Showdown for example. Or single slants that doesn’t make the document appear to be double space like in Frnachise.The Smurfs, toward the bottom before tropes are mentioned. That’s how it was originally.
- Speaking of the slants, there are examples that go right into each other like Trivia.The Smurfs or there are others like the XS example above like Trivia.Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.
- A third thing is he unindents examples that fit under the same category or, in a way, related like in ShoutOut.Once Upon A Time, if you look under the Season 2 folder (sorry if I sound lecturing, stating the obvious, lecturing . . . blah bleh blah) and the episode titled “Tiny.” Under the LOST example, there’s a mention of this fictional airline name, with one solid bullet and then two ‘holey’ bullets hence they fall into one another. Same for the example right below.
- Since there are pun based episodes that are made like ‘Urban Chipmunk,’ there has been other examples like that as well that people have done.
- And there’s the time St Fan deleted added content as well as additional folders, reverting to what it was beforehand!!!
Moving on, there are also instances where people add trope examples (like the V-Sign one wrongfully put under The Smurfs 2 that another troper kept posting and I kept removing stating, that’s not an example. It may have been going on until I went to a moderator and complained, who stepped in and stopped the troper from posting the example.
edited 11th Feb '14 4:18:39 PM by Ghost101
Lost in Space
Backslashes for paragraph separators should be used sparingly, if ever, and never for multiple subexamples.
Work titles use italics. Episode titles use "double quotation marks".
When there are multiple examples for a trope or work in a list, they get indented like so:
- Trope
- Example
- Example
I looked at some of your edits. You are doing them absolutely, dead wrong. Nowhere else on the wiki is your formatting style used.
edited 11th Feb '14 4:16:22 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Title.
Oh boy, this is bound to be fun.
Why was I suspended?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Rude edit reasons. Since I believe they've been taken down, I'm going to leave this to someone who's seen them to handle.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Ghost101
So when I'll be able to edit again, considering I've been following the rules, edit as well as
Zzzzzzzzzz
Tropers/ghost. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWING THE RULES for this wiki. How difficult is that to understand?
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Lost in Space
Full-bounce on Ghost101. This is just not worth it.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
In uffish thought
Hi Creekery,
Specifically, you called someone a moron when removing a This Troper entry. Yes, This Troper is bad editing, but so is calling someone a moron. Rudeness is not acceptable in edit reasons whatever you are editing. We need you to keep cool when you edit and step away from the computer if you become frustrated. Can you do that?
edited 12th Feb '14 2:11:01 AM by Telcontar
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Hello, I was told to come back on Wednesday to seek re-approval of my editing priveleges.
Lost in Space
Yes, you were. Welcome back.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Title.
Yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I'm not a total jerk, but even I think I was going to far with insulting someone due to bad editing. If given back my editing, I will no longer call other tropers stupid. I promise.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
In uffish thought
Suspension lifted; happy troping.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Yuki Akuma, the king of reckoning
Hello. I would like to edit again. Thank you.
When in doubt, smeg
Yuki Akuma, the king of reckoning
Hello. I would like to edit again. Thank you. (Sorry I posted it twice, I thought I accidentally deleted the first one.)
edited 12th Feb '14 9:03:54 PM by Yuki-Akuma
When in doubt, smeg
Okay, good is not soft was fixed in the end (unless I didn't have enough context). Good is not nice I read as not nice/mean to other heroes or whatever, so I removed ones that seemed too ambiguous like they could be nice, but just not to villains etc. And for antihero, I just thought some overall didn't tend to fit it more than just hero/villain etc. Beelzebub and the rest were earlier, when I sort of had no idea what the rules were, but now I know. The only problem for me is that I probably don't give enough context, but I'm trying to work on that. Umm