This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who have received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.
If you're suspended, give What to Do If You Are Suspended a read, then post here to begin your appeal. We try to respond to appeals in order via batch posts every few days. If a moderator has responded to your appeal, you will receive a notification in your private messages, even if you're suspended from PMs.
The Forum Rules
apply here.
Don'ts
- Don't be rude. Rule 1 applies here, too.
- Don't try to negotiate your suspension outside of this thread, such as by sending Private Messages to moderators or posting elsewhere. Such activity may be thumped or otherwise removed, and may warrant an additional suspension block if it keeps happening. All communications have to take place within this thread.
- Don't respond to other suspended users. This is a place for you to discuss your suspension, not others'.
- Don't spam the thread about your appeal, since it makes it more difficult to compose responses. If you've posted, we're likely looking at it, and kindly request you to be more patient.
- Don't make another account to try and get around your suspension. This is called ban evasion and will get you bounced. (Again, read What to Do If You Are Suspended if you don't know what these words mean.)
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 30th 2025 at 11:56:51 AM
Alright then, seems I've been suspended. I'll cop to it, I've been too blunt and rude. Dunno if there'll be an option for me to be unsuspended, so uh...I guess I might as well take a break from the forums? Unless there's another option?
Truth be told, I might well need a break from this place anyways.
Edited by Diana1969 on Feb 2nd 2024 at 12:38:55 PM
I would like to make a new page of "regretevator called "characters" because it has characters but it does not have a specific page for it but for some reason im suspended from editing but I have been suspended for a while and I have not been unblocked
My editing privileges were suspended a decade ago, and I believe enough time has passed that I'd like the suspension to be lifted.
It appears that I have been suspended over messages I sent between Ms Oranje Disco Dancer. As far as I know, he got on my case for deleting a trope from Napoleon Dynamite, specifically Shrinking Violet and saying that I should add it back in the future. The thing is, most of of my editing is removing non-YMMV tropes that are listed on YMMV. I've been doing this for a while and this is the first time I've had someone message me over it. I almost never add the trope back to a page, feeling that it should be the responsibility of the person who added the trope originally to add it back to where it should go, especially because how could I know if the trope is meant to be listed on the main page or part of a character of a work that I likely have no knowledge of? I don't report the tropers that originally added the non-YMMV tropes to the YMMV page, because if I did, I'd be spending too much time reporting everyone who added them and when I search when some of them have been added, it can show they were added years ago and who knows if they're even editing anymore?
My point is that I don't feel that I'm in the wrong for removing non-YMMV that are listed and not adding them back because there's no way I can know where the trope will have to be added to, whether on a character page the main page or possibly both. By this logic, should I also have full knowledge of a work that I'm deleting a non YMMV trope from? Because I barely know much about the works I delete the items from. I just know that the tropes are not YMMV and I'm deleting them because they cannot be listed on YMMV pages, as per the rules. I'm hoping that things can be resolved with many issues.
So its now been about seven months overall since late-June when my suspension officially began (mid-July was when I agreed to the terms of the indefinite suspension from the LTP threads) and baring the brief PM suspension in which I agreed to not discuss the CM and MB threads anymore even in PMs—or possibly the LTP tropes in general for that matter either (the PM suspension lasted about a week in mid-October), I've basically done what was asked: I stayed away and worked elsewhere. I tried not to put a definitive number on how long I'd be working in the other forums to show I could stay on topic because you guys said "indefinite" and I took that to mean "it takes as long as it takes". I was ready to come back way sooner than this, but I knew it had to be more than four months this time though and I figured a year at most would probably be an appropriate maximum as well—and felt it was just as important to prove it to myself and establish my own confidence in better and stronger self-control and not just you guys while doing so (regardless of the time period).
Since then, I've worked in other forums and while checking out and observing certain LTP threads, did not seek any involvement that would come off as meat-puppeting as I knew I would get both myself and someone else in trouble too if I did that and destroy my chances forever (to the point that I didn't even edit subpages/drafts related to them either). It wasn't easy, but I knew I had to respect the rules and prove I could follow them. I never once in all this time on other forums got thumped for going off topic as I stayed in the appropriate discussion threshold with each and every post—and never got thumped at all for that matter actually for any number of other reasons. I never complained and always tried to approach things from a constructive standpoint.
The Wiki Talk thread about the CM and MB threads was open to me too and I was afraid to go there at first, so I didn't. I wasn't gonna talk about what I saw on those threads, but it felt like I'd be skirting the line if I did get involved even vaguely (though did while keeping discussion on the policies as was expected and did not bring up any specific past or present candidates either). While I talked with others in PMs at first about the CM and MB threads, they stayed in PMs and I never once asked anyone to do anything for me—and constantly asked that nothing we discussed be shared as well—and again, when the mods requested I stop doing that too back in late-October through a PM suspension, I did what was asked of me and stayed away from discussing the topics in question—and at the same time, if a topic was about to come up, I diverted away from it immediately as well (and even pointed out when access to the LTP threads was accidentally restored to me back in July without posting on any of them to allow the mistake to be fixed right away too).
If anything I wrote in the Wiki was brought up in an LTP thread at any time, it's something I wrote either before my suspension or without any input and it was completely coincidental and unprompted. I'm grateful to the mods for giving me the chance to work toward being better in all the time I've been locked out of LTP, I'm sorry that there had to be a third time—and a first for PM too—and I kindly request that I please be released to return to work on the LTP forums. Thank you very much.
Also, if you wish for me to keep doing what I've been doing since October for another few months just to be sure, I'll do that too and not come back for another appeal until early April (heck, even later than that if you guys want me to as well). I'm happy to work at your discretion. Again, thank you.
I'm repeating my response, ~Synchronicity. I'd also like to send regards to ~Septimus Heap and ~@Fighteer, for helping with releasing my suspension. So here has been my response...
- Could I at least give hats and bombs
Ah, ok.
Actually, I was just trying to be cooperative. I know this is quite irregular, and if I mess up once again (especially during this year), I would be permanently bounced and basically not allowed to use TV Tropes again. I completely understand everything.
I completely understand that any further misbehavior in TV Tropes would result in me being effectively bounced, a.k.a. permanent suspension on all of TV Tropes. This is my last chance, especially this yeah. I'll stay away from all thing TLP for at least a year, from E3 in TV Tropes, and will continue to contribute to the website, provided you readmit me. I'm scared of me being kicked out again, so this time I'm going to do better: as in, no more major misbehavior, and be nice.
Thank you for your cooperation. Just please don't bounce me immediately after, I'm scared despite how I might have sounded like in this response.
Edited by AbsoluteRainbow on Feb 3rd 2024 at 7:35:01 PM
Aphrodite, rather than waiting for a response to their appeal, attempted ban evasion and has been bounced.
Please remain patient. We'll get to you all in time.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Heya. Sinfest recently went Neo-Nazi. Keeps making strips about how the Zionist Occupational Government, the Jewish cabal that secretly controls America, rapes and murders children". I wrote an extensive, fiery breakdown of how far the strip was gone in the summary. This, I considered an extreme but appropriate way to put it.
I was way off. I think what went wrong is that my ideas of what is and isn't appropriate in a summary were ridiculously out of date, being from the 2000s, before the content that formed YMMV or even Darth Wiki was sequestered away from Main, and informality was encouraged. Heck, Interstellar Weapon had a summary that just read "Oh, hell yes!" for a long time. I seldom edit trope pages' summaries, media' summaries far more rarely, and launch media pages never, so I think I genuinely hadn't noticed what level of formality in media pages' summaries is now not only usual but required. (If you wonder how someone could be that out of date, well, since you're here you're probably familiar with the forums, and keeping your finger on the pulse that way is normal for you. I never really got into them when they went up.)
Examples, I think I'm up to date on.
People told
me
to knock it off in the "removing negativity" thread in Projects:Long Term/Perpetual. I read all they told me: can the snark and call-outs, maintain a serious tone, you can note the reception but don't let it take over the essential information, keep your personal distaste from leaking through, condense and trim the examples way down. I wrote a second version
trying to take all that into account. I didn't mention to the thread that I'd be putting it live, as I'd already told them I'd try giving the gist, I left an elaborate edit summary explaining how I had taken the criticism into account, and I decided telling the thread without responding to everything I still had to respond to would be very rude, and with responding would be much more exhausting than I had the energy for at a late hour. Not telling the thread was a mistake, as it made me seem underhanded or raging.
I hit "Save edit" thinking it was alright to do, and if it wasn't, if some part of the second version went too far, taking that part out would be a minor issue. Then the whole thing got canned and I was banned for vandalism
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Edited by Kizor on Feb 3rd 2024 at 8:13:44 AM
Hi, I regrettably got into an edit war with the user Rockand Roll Movies 1996 who kept posting lewd and inappropriate tropes on a character page for Toy Story 1 and I am now suspended after I brought attention to it on Ask The Tropers.
I should have reported him straight away and I apologise for the edit war, it won't happen again.
Edited by GaryKing95 on Feb 3rd 2024 at 4:08:12 AM
Hi I'm Hero Seeker. I've been a user since 2016. Six years ago I made a huge mistake with a character profile on the anime Devilman Crybaby and I was too wordy and went overboard on explaining a change with a character in that show from it's source material. I apologize for this and I've changed since then. I won't be that way anymore.
I previously asked
with regards to appealing my suspension on the 17th and think I may have been missed during the roundup posts covering page 1303.
To add to my last post, I also reviewed the indentation issue from Cult of the Lamb. In this situation I had felt the entry was a variant of the previously mentioned bug and so gave it an indentation to relate them. Looking back, I should have either listed them as separate bullet points or merged them into a single item.
The Reborn as a Villainess notice from earlier that year was another bad judgment call. The entries there are extremely verbose and I was worried that my addition would create an unappealing wall of text. That should have been the warning sign to stop and consider if things weren't out of control.
I won’t do trope wars ever again and would it appeal my suspension.
Diana 1969 has deleted their account, so has been bounced.
Apologies for the delay - there's another batch of responses to follow these, so no need to post reminders just yet.
~Gary King 95 (appeal
We appreciate that you were trying to deal with suspected vandalism, and also that you reported the issues on ATT - an edit war isn't the way to approach that, but on the ATT post you also made it clear that you know that now.
At this point, we just need some reassurance that you understand the correct way to deal with any future disagreements with other tropers, regardless of the rights and wrongs. The relevant policy is on the Edit War page.
Can you read that page, then — using your own words, not just copy and paste — post here to confirm how you should deal with a possible edit war?
~Hero Seeker (appeal
You were suspended back in 2018 for a range of different reasons - rudeness in PMs, grammar issues, word cruft and natter. Only the first of those issues was addressed at the time.
It's your first suspension and it's been a long time since those issues, so we just want to be confident that they won't reoccur. Firstly, let's talk about the natter and word cruft - please take a look at the Conversation in the Main Page and Word Cruft guidance. Are you comfortable that you understand those policy pages? Do you have any questions?
~TSBasilisk (appeal here
You were suspended on Jan 16th 2024 for indentation problems, having accumulated 25 indentation notifiers plus a handful of others. That would be a big problem in its own right, but you were already suspended for indentation back in 2018.
We reinstated you after you confirmed
that you understood the rules now (although Septimus did add one correction
). However, we're six years on, you're still getting new notifiers, and you still don't seem to fully understand the indentation policy.
If we reinstate you again, and this happens again, you are likely to face an indefinite or permanent ban. With that in mind, we want to be very sure before we reinstate you.
As a first step, please take a look at that policy, then take a look at this recent edit. Can you tell us why it's incorrect?
- From The opening scene of the movie is an air-raid siren as Mahito realizes that the hospital his mother was in is now on fire. He rushes out of the house towards it, calling for his mother, only to see it enveloped in flames.
- The residents of Tokyo are depicted in a way that leaves them unusually dark and swaying unnaturally, like Mahito is running through a nightmare.
~Absolute Rainbow (appeal
As you say, this is your very last chance. As we mentioned, you are facing an indefinite ban from TLP. You are also facing an indefinite ban from the On-Topic Conversations subforum.
We are willing to reinstate your other forum access, with the exception of the Video Games subforum. We'd like to see you use that to contribute positively to the site.
Assuming that we don't have any more issues, we can then look at reinstating your Video Games and editing access — but this won't happen before April 2024, and it will only happen if we can see that you're actively using the forums and making a worthwhile contribution.
Exactly what you choose to do on the forums is up to you, but Image Pickin', the trope-specific threads and the Is this an example?
thread can always use more help, and they don't generally need editing rights.
We aren't going to consider reinstating your TLP or On-Topic Conversations access until the start of 2025, at the earliest - and this will only happen if you can show us that you're using the rest of the site without problems. There is no point appealing if those conditions aren't met.
Is that clear?
~Kizor (appeal
As you assumed, you were suspended for making unilateral changes to Sinfest due to your concerns about the comic's political agenda and its endorsement of transphobia and antisemitism. Although you'd started a conversation on the forums about rewriting the work description, you didn't wait for a consensus and posted a unilateral change - which was then interpreted as vandalism.
From our perspective, the big issue here is that you didn't seem to be listening to feedback. We need to take care when the wiki writes about works that are pushing an agenda, and part of that is ensuring that we have a consensus on how we approach them and call out those problematic elements.
This is your first suspension, so we just want to be sure that it's not going to happen again, and that you understand the wiki policies on this.
The relevant policy page is Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment (ROCEJ). There's an associated ROCEJ violations, misuse, and other issues thread
on the forums, plus a second thread for monitoring works that promote bigotry
, to ensure that those pages don't misrepresent the work or attract problematic edits.
Please read the ROCEJ page and take a look at the two threads. Do you have any questions or concerns about the policies or processes?
To be clear - we're not saying you can't continue to be part of any Sinfest cleanup if we reinstate you, but we need to approach it in the right way, and it's generally a red flag when a troper is so focused (positively or negatively) on something that they ignore consensus.
~futuremoviewriter (appeal
We can see that you're very active on the forums, including regular Image Pickin' contributions and some conversation on the recent CM proposals. You've had no thumped posts since before the LTP suspension, which is good.
You're also active on the wiki, and although you've picked up a handful of notifiers over the years, none seem to be recent.
All of that's positive. However, this was your third forum suspension. If we reinstate you and there's a future issue, you are going to be facing a permanent ban - either from Long Term Projects or from the forum as a whole, so we are taking this very seriously.
Also, although this wasn't said directly last year - when we say that we'd like to see a positive contribution to the forums, we're generally looking at the wiki-focused subforums. Image Pickin' is a great start, but you're also an experienced editor, so if you feel able to contribute to answering Is this an example?
queries or any of the cleanup threads, that would be another positive step.
With all of that in mind, we do think you're on the right track, but we'd prefer to leave the suspension in place for a little longer - if you remain active on the forums and there are no further issues, we'll look at the appeal at the start of April.
Do you have any questions on this?
~EscBoy (appeal
You were suspended in May 2021 for two different issues.
One concern was with the grammar and spelling on some of your edits. The other was regarding changes you made to PlayingWith.Supernaturally Validated Trans Person. Let's talk about that one first.
The page has references to hypothetical trans woman Alice, including one where she's not "counted amongst other women because she's AMAB" (i.e. she was assigned male at birth).
You changed it to say "because she's a man".
We hope you can understand how that edit raised concerns about transphobia. We know it was a while ago, but perhaps you can explain the thinking behind that change?
~ArizonaBaby (appeal
This wasn't a "trope wars" (edit wars) issue. You were suspended in December for two different reasons - Zero Context Examples and concerns about your grammar and spelling.
Which one would you like to discuss first?
~KingSolstice (appeal
You were suspended in 2012 for an edit war, specifically for arguing about a particular character on Friendship Is Magic: The Mane Cast. It was your first suspension, so we just want to be sure that it's not going to happen again. The relevant policy is on the Edit War page.
Can you read that page, then post here to confirm (in your own words) how you should deal with any possible edit war?
~KamonTheSkunk (appeal
This isn't about the policy and who's right or wrong - that's not why you were suspended from PMs. You're suspended because you decided to react rudely and broke Rule One.
This is your first suspension, but we'll want some reassurance that you won't be rude and disruptive if we restore your access. More generally, as with anything else on the wiki, we expect you to know how to deal with conflict if someone disagrees with your edits.
This wasn't an edit war, but a lot of the same principles apply - so please take a look at the Edit War page for guidance on how to resolve this sort of clash. If you can reassure us that you won't do this again, and you can show that you understand the different options for resolving disputes, we may be able to reinstate you.
So, in your own words, what are the options that page gives you?
Edit: typo fix
Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 4th 2024 at 9:08:43 AM
Mrph 1 Yes I do understand the policy pages and have no questions.
Bullet points should act as examples of the main line/trope, rather than commentary on the main line. This wasn't an example, but a separate element of the scene in question. The fact that it was the only bullet off the entry is further evidence that it was commentary rather than example. In this example, I can see three ways which would have been more appropriate.
- The opening scene of the movie:
- Mahito hears an air raid siren and realizes that the hospital his mother was in is now on fire. He rushes out of the house towards it, calling for his mother, only to see it enveloped in flames.
- The residents of Tokyo are depicted in a way that leaves them unusually dark and swaying unnaturally, like Mahito is running through a nightmare.
This splits the two elements for creating the nightmare fuel into separate examples, while showing both are elements of the same scene. Alternatively, the two could simply be combined.
- From the opening scene of the movie is an air-raid siren as Mahito realizes that the hospital his mother was in is now on fire. He rushes through Tokyo past citizens who are depicted in a way that makes it seem like Mahito is running through a nightmare, calling for his mother. He finally arrives, only to see it enveloped in flames.
The final option would simply be to keep both on separate lines.
- From the opening scene of the movie is an air-raid siren as Mahito realizes that the hospital his mother was in is now on fire. He rushes out of the house towards it, calling for his mother, only to see it enveloped in flames.
- The residents of Tokyo in the opening scene are depicted in a way that leaves them unusually dark and swaying unnaturally, like Mahito is running through a nightmare.
I meant to check as to whether or not Is This An Example?—which I have been on in the past—was LTP or not. Now that I know it's not, I'm happy to start back into that one more often too. Heck, I'll start seeking out other Trope Talk and Wiki Talk subjects to participate in as well and not just that one—especially as I was indeed seeking to branch out beyond just threads pertaining to Film, TV and the like already.
I'll continue everything else I'm already doing as well, especially with the IP threads. A lot of what I was able to accomplish there with IP was thanks to a Troper/friend providing me links, but I intend to also seek out my own topics to participate in too, which I did on occasion—and just yesterday, I also posted image suggestions which I occasionally do too (be it in IP topics I created or that someone else did).
I'm happy with the progress I've been making and happy to continue building off of it too both on the forums and on the wikis. I'm glad you guys approve of the processes and progresses I have taken towards success. I have no problem whatsoever with doing what is being asked of me in order to continue moving things forward in a positive way.
I appreciate the opportunity to improve and prove it to both myself and you guys for doing so. I'll indeed return around early April. Thank you for your time, encouragement and attention.
If another troper disagrees with an edit I make, I should be respectful, even if another troper is messaging me about something that I had little involvement in and if the problem persists, I should either use the discussion page or Ask The Tropers to see about getting the issue resolved. I am very sorry for getting myself into this situation.
Regarding the situation with the other troper, Ms Oranje Disco Dancer messaged me, saying that I should've added the non-YMMV trope I listed to its proper place. However, I felt I was not much in the wrong since I merely deleted the trope since it was not YMMV. I felt that said troper should have contacted Drambrarcer, the troper that originally listed Shrinking Violet on the YMMV and failed to realize that it is not a YMMV trope. I feel that the message Ms Oranje Disco Dancer sent felt like Misplaced Retribution, since the only thing I was responsible for was following the rules and removing a non-YMMV trope from a YMMV page.
Even after I pointed this out, they basically said it would be too much work and they didn't once mention the troper that started things by adding the non-YMMV trope to the page in the first place in any of our messages. They completely ignored them and acted like I was the one primarily at fault for not adding the trope where it belongs, when I feel that should not fall on me, it should fall on Drambrarcer, the one who added it in the first place. And I ended up suspended for basically telling them that they should leave me alone, since I feel that I shouldn't be responsible for adding the deleted trope back to a page, especially when I know very little about a work.
I feel that Ms Oranje Disco Dancer should be held responsible for roping me into this ordeal when I feel I had very little to do with it and for not contacting Drambrarcer, the person actually responsible for this by adding the non-YMMV trope on a YMMV page and not researching whether or not the trope was YMMV or not and not telling them they should add the trope where it belongs.
I take responsibility for removing the non-YMMV trope from the YMMV page, as per the rules, but I do not feel I should be responsible for adding the tropes back to whatever page they belong on since there's no rule that says that those deleting the tropes need to add the tropes back or have full knowledge of a work before deleting the non-YMMV tropes from YMMV pages. I feel that Ms Oranje Disco Dancer should've contacted Drambrarcer and not me due to having little involvement aside from merely deleting the non-YMMV trope. But once again, I'm sorry for my actions all the same.
@Mrph1 I've read the page and taken a look at the threads and have no questions.
I just recently joined up as a troper and am now facing a suspension. It was for the same reasons that I've been trying to go back and correct said oversights, now that I have the tools to accurately assess and fix things according to the infractions against my account. To see where I can improve in grammar, context, and sentencing.
I've lived in America my whole life, yet I have English phrasing impediments that often thwarted me. I read through "Get Help With English Here". But truthfully, all I found was endless confusion since there are so many topics posted there which didn't help me figure out how punctuation, spelling, capitalization, or the like actually should work for this site.
Still, I would like to try and fix this ramification if I can, but I do not know who to talk to in that regard to get leeway in doing so. Much less how I can fix anything to avoid being sighted for it in the future. Tried that once and didn't get so much as a reply. How do I lift the barring I am currently under and for what reasons did I garner it in the first place?
Also, how do I fix my grammar and capitalization when my trying to do so is what led me here to begin with? I was never outright rude in the sentencing I made, did my best to tone down any profanity usage and whatever errors in spelling or punctuation there were. I always tried to be cautious in keeping an eye on them.
I would even go back through an edit and try to fix any typos to the best I could every chance I got. Truthfully, I only joined just so I wouldn't get the annoying remove add blocker notice whilst I looked up pop culture references. That and I noticed several spelling and/or phrasing errors on pages which I often looked up.
Figured it wouldn't be such a bad thing to help fix those if I joined. But now it feels like I am being punished for the effort of trying. It's not that I don't know what I did wrong. But this seems more of a reprimand for attempting to make up for it. Or at the very least, in trying to learn from and work on where I loused up.
However, I just started barely a month in and my blocking for minor errors seems a touch extreme. Been a frequenter of the website for years, but have always been apprehensive about signing on as a member because of this honestly.
Didn't hear a lot of good things about the strictness of the page, hence my attempt at trying to spruce up my writing ability before getting on board to the best of my ability.
Edited by Ren698 on Feb 6th 2024 at 12:26:40 PM
Hi, I have recently been suspended on the wiki for Edit Warring. This is my second suspension; the first time I was suspended was two years ago, which was primarily for real life troping and a tiny bit of discussion surrounding edit wars, and before a series of hiatuses from editing.
Because my previous suspension was primarily focused on another issue, whereas this one is purely for edit warring, I think I'm able to get a better grasp of how strict the edit war policy is, and a better reminder of the protocol on it. It also gave me a better grasp on 'where' and 'how' to find the avenues for discussion, not just 'what' they are.
The page I was edit warring on was Total Drama, where I had a very brief dispute over whether one character was considered an Arc Villain. When I had seen that my edit was reverted, rather than reverting back and using the edit summary as a form of discussion, what I should have done is either:
- Message the user I was in disagreement with. Generally, this is reserved for one-on-one disagreements. I have a question regarding this method: if me and the other user come to an agreement or a compromise via PM's, would it be fine to revert their revert if I make it clear in my edit summary that the other user agreed to it?
- Go to the discussion page for the series or trope (which is under the same tab as editing and the article's history). I can't currently access it due to the current suspension, but it's a foolproof way of finding an avenue for consensus since it's under the same umbrella as the edit button, which will help prevent me from making the same screwup.
- Go to the forums. This includes Trope Talk and Wiki Talk, as well as forums specifically pertaining to the genre (for example, Video Games or Western Animation). As you can see by searching my forum posts, I have found a forum page that my dispute is a part of, and will be using that to discuss rather than edit summaries.
- Please do not take my comments there as negotiating my suspension elsewhere; rather I am making sure to ingrain into myself where to discuss the issue to prevent something like this from becoming an edit war. I believe you would feel safer if you saw an example of me being willing to discuss with other users instead of going straight to edits, rather than relying on blind trust that I understand the rules. Think of it as this thread is where I negotiate my suspension, while the other thread is me discussing the content of an edit and showing how to handle a disagreement.
- Go to Ask the Tropers, which may end up directing me to one of the other venues listed above for opinions from people who know the show better. Both forums and Ask the Tropers are under the top left tab opposite of my profile on mobile, which I primarily use. On desktop, forums is clearly visible at the top, and Ask the Tropers is under forums.
- For obvious vandalism, also use Ask the Tropers (which I just listed the location above) or the Report Page button (which I am currently looking for the location of, but I'll likely just use Ask the Tropers anyways).
I think the primary issue is that I didn't know 'where' to find the discussion, forum, or ask the tropers pages, and during my suspension I was able to figure out where to find them. I also figured out how to search my past messages in this forum so I can reflect on my mistakes and not repeat them, as well as reminding myself where to find the avenues for discussion.
I have pinned the Edit War page onto my profile page to remind myself of the rules and how strict they are, so as to prevent a third, likely indefinite suspension. Additionally, because I was unaware that there was a discussion surrounding the dispute I was part of, if my editing is restored, am I allowed to create my troper page asking people to ping or message me if there is a discussion involving a dispute I was a part of to prevent it from becoming an edit war? Or is the burden simply on me to start the discussion after a single revert to my own edit? I'd like to reduce any potential confusions so I can prevent all future edit wars.
Edited by Chewbacca on Feb 5th 2024 at 10:57:22 AM
How to deal with future edit wars:
- Explain your reasoning in the article's Discussion page.
- PM the troper on the opposite side to sort the disagreement out.
- Visit Ask The Tropers for general wiki questions.
- Consult Trope Talk for trope disagreements or Wiki Talk for miscellaneous articles.
- When dealing with a disruptive troper that vandalizes the article/ engages in abusive behavior towards others, either click on Report Page on the sidebar or post in Ask The Tropers.
NVM turns out I triggered a MASSIVE BEEHIVE
on the CM threads conspiring against me and I know NOTHING about it because the entire thing was discussed in ATT without my knowledge at all. I don't even think there is a way to negotiate away from this and I assume this is a permanent sitewide suspension. Bye site I guess?
Edited by Mr-ex777 on Feb 4th 2024 at 11:45:13 PM
Mrph1, what about the ones that actively working on their errors. I mean it’s been almost a month since I got suspended from editing and I began visiting forums and get help with gramma, so I just want to know when I can go back to work
Edited by NicMasterTrope on Feb 5th 2024 at 11:08:52 PM

I was suspended a while ago, I never found out why (but I suspect it was due to failure to understand drafting and my just hopping in to change whatever). I more or less took a break from the site, and now I would like to be able to edit again, now that I have a better understanding of how to collaborate in a collective space.