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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 30th 2025 at 11:56:51 AM

Thundermoth Since: Sep, 2022
#31876: Sep 24th 2023 at 12:40:30 AM

I want to include some contributions to a wiki for a game that was remastered, but I'm unable to do that because I was suspended for an unknown reason that I suspect was excessive edits to one page (I was not told the exact reason). I'd like to be able to edit again because I see so many opportunities to add new tropes where the ones present aren't being called out in the wiki. I've been suspended for months on end without any response to my last post here and would like to at least know if I have a chance at being able to contribute again.

Edit: I now understand that what I was doing was a (completely unintentional) edit war. I now understand that this is wrong and very serious, and will not do it again as I see how something like this has the potential to spiral out of control. The post in question was the Brandon Rogers page, where I tried to invoke the A Date With Rosie Palms trope about the character of Cathy, but the trope was repeatedly recategorized in what I thought was under the wrong letter, so I kept moving it back only to find out that that trope goes under the D list instead of A. I was then suspended not long after, and I'm still not entirely sure if I was suspended for this exact reason or a different one that I'm not aware of.

Edited by Thundermoth on Sep 24th 2023 at 12:47:30 PM

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#31877: Sep 24th 2023 at 1:38:20 AM

~Yinyang107 appeal

There were already multiple mod posts on that thread, warnings that any further argumentative responses would need to be thumped. The one before your last post was a direct plea for people to stop posting because we'd have to thump them.

By that point you'd already been thumped once. You posted again anyway, you were thumped and suspended, and now we're here.

That policy thread is still open, and if we reinstate you then you're welcome to contribute to it in future. If you have concerns about a policy, you can explain why you think it's problematic. We'll listen. That doesn't mean we'll always agree with you.

But any discussion there needs to be constructive, not just an argument or a flat refusal to accept rules. And if admins state that a final decision's been made and we all need to move on, that's what will happen. The admins represent the site's legal owners and they always get the final say.

If we reinstate your ability to post, any major forum issues in the future are likely to send you straight back here for another conversation. As you probably know, repeat suspensions tend to have further consequences.

Is all of that clear? You don't have to like it, but we do want to be sure you understand it.

Stratis Since: Aug, 2023
#31878: Sep 24th 2023 at 10:18:16 AM

I would like to ask if it would be possible for my editing privileges to be reinstated. I understand I was suspended for Edit Warring, but I promise in the future I will either leave a post on the discussion page with an edit reason, or send a message to the troper I am disagreeing with.

Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
#31879: Sep 24th 2023 at 12:37:34 PM

~isbillyhere appeal appeal

We might excuse an editor for forgetting if sufficient time has passed, but since you changed something back to 900 while indicating you knew you had it at 900 before, the month between edits isn't relevant. If you want that to stay at a round number for easier counting, you have to discuss the proposed change beforehand.


~Jinpuu appeal

Your recent posts to Get Help with English still needed multiple corrections. Since you stated you will continue to submit proposed entries to that thread before adding them to the wiki, we'll hold you to that. You are released.


~omegasaint appeal

Edit wars end when the offending tropers are stopped from edit warring. Tropers should not start edit wars in the first place.


~Baritone Clef appeal

Please don't talk to other tropers here. And yes, even an edit war for a minor change is an edit war. The question for you to answer: What does Edit War recommend doing if you disagree with someone else's change undoing yours?


~The Lewandererz 602555 appeal

That is very honest of you, but what we need you to do is listen to people when they tell you something, especially when multiple people are telling you the same thing. The bashing of Spec Ops: The Line and its creator and the Berserk gushing indicate that you get easily carried away with something to the detriment of the wiki, so you need to step back and ask yourself if you're getting carried away. Is this actually good for the wiki?


~Soaring Starman appeal

This is not about other tropers. This is about you. We can see their posts, too, and they were not unfair. If you treat others with respect (which includes reading the room and recognizing when to drop a matter), they will respond in turn. You may holler any rudeness or rule breaking.

We'll hold you to the promise you made.


~Zugga-lugga-locoro, G appeal

Right, then. You are released.


~Tropers/shawn_allen appeal

Several options, depending on what you want to talk about, including:

  • The discussion page for individual pages: Every page has one - click the Discussion link in the top ribbon. If you find that the page isn't getting a lot of traffic, you may post at...
  • Ask The Tropers: general purpose questions and reporting.
  • Trope Talk: a new thread in the forum to discuss a trope, or a specific thread for that purpose.
  • Private messages: If you want to talk with a specific user about something.

~Pat Tron appeal

Yes, it's going to last a long time. A long time is longer than a couple of months. As you were told before, we need to see more evidence of change and more good contributions over a significant period of time.


~Murphdog 405 appeal

Okay, both entries look good. Remember to state what's happening, so readers don't have to guess how the examples fit the tropes.

We've covered

  • Not making stub pages. The page should be in a finished state when you create it.
  • Indexing new pages. Do so; refer to How Indexing Works if you need.
  • Checking trope and work titles before submitting them.
  • Avoiding zero context examples.

You are released. Be careful in your troping.


~Eag3r-Mc B3av3r appeal

  • Rank Scales with Asskicking: Can you give a few examples of this trope in play.
  • Shinigami: What do the Soul Reapers and what do they do as Shinigami? You've only stated that they are but not what makes them an example.
  • Space Police: How are they the supernatural fantasy equivalent of Space Police? You must elaborate on this.

TheLewandererz602555 Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#31880: Sep 24th 2023 at 12:48:28 PM

Well, Tabs. Of course I was getting carried away, so no need to ask myself. Thing is that I can get a bit too enthusiastic and therefore ignore what people ask me not to do. No excusing nor anything like that, I'm being brutally honest.

I know that my behavior is NOT good for this site (or any site, really), and all I gotta say is that I've got a huge burden to carry. No matter the ways in how you and I may see it, though, this is something that must not happen ever again.

Edited by TheLewandererz602555 on Sep 24th 2023 at 1:49:02 PM

isbillyhere Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#31881: Sep 24th 2023 at 3:04:31 PM

alright i’m sorry, i’ll just leave it be next time

PatTron Since: Jun, 2016
#31882: Sep 24th 2023 at 3:13:20 PM

Okay, I guess it's fine, but my only concern is what if there are some barely updated pages to which I would like to draw other tropers' attention in order for them to be edited to reflect recent events?

Edited by PatTron on Sep 28th 2023 at 1:45:48 AM

shawn_allen Since: Jun, 2012
#31883: Sep 24th 2023 at 4:11:44 PM

Ok, will try to keep within the guidelines. Frankly, I thought because I was putting new tropes on older pages, someone thought I was doing it too much for each day. Can I get the editing back?

BaritoneClef Since: Jun, 2015
#31884: Sep 24th 2023 at 6:14:39 PM

I should've talked about it, yeah

isbillyhere Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#31885: Sep 24th 2023 at 9:54:16 PM

alright, i saw the thread at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327331003042025100&page=467#comment-11654

i get why this was a problem now and im sorry. i'd have appreciated if someone showed me this thread earlier

Edited by isbillyhere on Sep 25th 2023 at 2:24:24 AM

isbillyhere Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#31886: Sep 24th 2023 at 10:01:16 PM

i guess the real root of the problem is that i never check my followed pages tab, i only edit stuff on a whim while clicking through random pages

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31888: Sep 25th 2023 at 7:31:38 AM

~Tropers/Thundermoth appeal

Indeed, by repeatedly moving the page to the (wrong) alphabetical order, you committed an Edit War. Further details about the policy are listed on that page, and I suggest you give it a read.

In this case, repeatedly moving the page was wrong to begin with because of our How to Alphabetize Things rules saying A Date with Rosie Palms (back when it was a trope at least) would go under "D", not "A". But the next time you disagree with someone's change to your edit, you cannot just undo it without discussion/consensus. Where does Edit War say you can have these conversations, and obtain agreement from other users?


~Tropers/Stratis appeal

That's not quite the correct answer to the question you were asked. "Redoing your edit without consensus but leaving a note on the discussion page this time or an edit reason" is still an Edit War. We want you to get consensus before redoing the edit, and we're asking you where on the wiki you can get that. Sending a PM is one method according to Edit War, but it doesn't always work. What are the others?


~The Lewandererz 602555 appeal

You say that your misbehaviors "should not happen again", but they...do?

Remember that you were suspended for edit warring in June. In addition to your two reviews suspensions where you repeatedly ignored warnings, this second editing suspension where you ignore the interventions of other users and a moderator to keep adding your gush tells us that for whatever reason, you are neither a particularly collaborative nor neutral editor. As such, your editing suspension is now indefinite as well. We strongly suggest you behave with your remaining privileges, as our patience with you is wearing thin.


~Tropers/isbillyhere appeal more appeals (please note the pinned post!)

We don't always want you to "leave things be", as some changes are genuinely contestable. We are trying to impart that redoing your edit requires getting agreement from other users via the methods listed on Edit War.


~Pat Tron appeal

Broadly speaking, someone making an edit on behalf of a suspended user is meatpuppeting, and will get them suspended as well. I don't suppose pointing out a problematic page in a cleanup thread or similar breaks this rule, but you will need to be careful not to suggest specific edits. Otherwise, you'll just have to hope that someone will decide to update these pages independently.


~Tropers/shawn_allen appeal

Your editing has been restored, but please remember the warning that this is your second suspension for Example Indentation. We may not look so kindly on a third one.


~Tropers/Baritone_Clef appeal

That's right; where specifically does Edit War say you can "talk about it"?


~Tropers/omegasaint appeal

Now that that's been cleared up, are you ready to answer the question we've been trying to get you to answer?

Please be more specific. What are some ways you can discuss if you want to redo your edit?

Tell us all of the possible options you can use to "see if people agree" with you, which are provided on Edit War.

Again, the answer to this question is on Edit War. We are seeking specific places on this website where you can converse with other users, not just a broad resolution to 'discuss more' or 'involve the moderators'.

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 25th 2023 at 10:42:51 AM

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31889: Sep 25th 2023 at 7:43:27 AM

~Tropers/omegasaint[up]

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 25th 2023 at 10:45:33 AM

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31890: Sep 25th 2023 at 7:45:59 AM

[up][up]~Baritone Clef[up][up] (sorry folks, pinging game is off today)

Stratis Since: Aug, 2023
#31891: Sep 25th 2023 at 8:18:17 AM

The others are to use Ask The Tropers, but that's mainly for general questions. Use the forums such as Trope Talk or Wiki Talk, or the cleanup thread of a Short or Long Term Project for certain pages If someone doesn't agree with me I could report them, using Report Page, but this isn't what happened.

omegasaint Since: Apr, 2013
#31892: Sep 25th 2023 at 8:22:01 AM

What I want to discuss in Heavenly Delusion is a certain dark event that happened in the finale (a sexual assault) and how the anime treated a bit positively when compared to the manga. Apparently that's the content that left me blocked so I understand if you guys don't want me editing that unless we agree on that and add that to YMNV.

Then again, after reading the guideline I decided not to edit that part anymore in order to avoid an edit war and see if I can still edit other articles constructively.

Edited by omegasaint on Sep 25th 2023 at 8:24:46 AM

GrandCheese Clippy from Skinnymandria Since: Mar, 2023 Relationship Status: Mu
Clippy
#31893: Sep 25th 2023 at 9:19:10 AM

If I’m banned from editing, how am I supposed to fix the examples?

kijetesantakulu tonsi li lanpan ala lanpan e soko? | ☿ they/them/theirs
TheLewandererz602555 Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#31894: Sep 25th 2023 at 12:15:01 PM

If that's the case, Synchronicity, then please tell me what my remaining privileges are. Whatever the case, if I screw up in those, then please strip those and end my pain.

Edited by TheLewandererz602555 on Sep 25th 2023 at 2:47:10 AM

its_stephprime Follower of Jesus from Still in School Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Follower of Jesus
#31895: Sep 25th 2023 at 1:35:22 PM

I got suspended about a few weeks/months ago. I would like to know why, so I won't do it again.

Saigon by Heritage 🇻🇳 Seattle by Citizenship 🇺🇸
Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#31896: Sep 25th 2023 at 1:56:31 PM

~TheLewandererz602555 appeal: If you're going to be dramatic about it, then we'll accept your proposal slightly ahead of schedule.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
isbillyhere Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#31897: Sep 25th 2023 at 4:18:13 PM

alright, alright, youre terribly specific about all this

ill dm people if they change an edit i made, ok?

BaritoneClef Since: Jun, 2015
#31898: Sep 25th 2023 at 7:37:51 PM

I guess I'll take it to D Ms next time for something like this

isbillyhere Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#31899: Sep 25th 2023 at 7:40:17 PM

sorry about my attitude. i tend to be impatient a lot

Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#31900: Sep 25th 2023 at 9:43:12 PM

Before I fully respond, I want to get something cleared up. I'm fairly certain my first thump came after I had posted to the moderation discussion thread for the second time. Is it possible to confirm that?


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