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Leave a note here indicating you want to talk the suspension over, then hang in there for a bit. A moderator will be along to talk to you about the situation.

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edited 2nd Dec '13 9:48:19 PM by FastEddie

FastEddie MOD
Dec 21st 2011 at 2:19:49 PM

This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.

For a fun site, we're pretty fussy about stuff like grammar and spelling, for example. More than you would expect, considering that we do want the funny. Everything is better with the funny.

Leave a note here indicating you want to talk the suspension over, then hang in there for a bit. A moderator will be along to talk to you about the situation.

NOTE: If you see another banned person post something that you want to comment on, don't. This thread is for discussion between banned people and Mods - no third parties invited.

While you're at it, browse What to Do If You Are Suspended.

edited 2nd Dec '13 9:48:19 PM by FastEddie

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Dec 21st 2011 at 3:19:05 PM

test

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Dec 21st 2011 at 5:43:24 PM

I would love to edit again,because TV tropes is a site,thats so cool. Please let me edit.This time ,I'll be more serious. Thank you.

Fighteer MOD Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
FastEddie MOD
Dec 21st 2011 at 7:25:42 PM

Not sure that's an important question, Fighteer.

Portal2000: It is nice, that you think we are a site and all, but we're looking for people who can post examples and tropes that don't need quite as much fixing. Thanks for showing an interest.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
TsundeRay HOORAY! from Santa Clara, California
HOORAY!
Dec 22nd 2011 at 2:49:29 AM

I was quite upset over something the other day, and in a lapse of judgment took it out on a page I started.

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Moleman9000 Moleman9000 from The Mole Hole
Moleman9000
Dec 22nd 2011 at 5:23:52 AM

You still haven't given me the feedback I need. What SHOULD I do?

AUS
Dec 22nd 2011 at 8:32:57 AM

Hi. I'd like to edit again.

Hammerhead A Seducer of Gravity from Seattle
A Seducer of Gravity
Dec 22nd 2011 at 10:32:43 PM

Need feedback on possible edit-banning lift I had told was going to be followed up on around two weeks ago. Still don't know if I'm going to be allowed back on or what - I would really like to know, just so I don't get my hopes up. Thanks for any reply, however.

Little fish, big fish, swimmin' in the water, come back here and give me my daughter...
Moleman9000 Moleman9000 from The Mole Hole
Moleman9000
Dec 23rd 2011 at 10:50:36 AM

Hello, I would like to edit again after several months now.

Fighteer MOD Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Dec 23rd 2011 at 10:55:41 AM

NOTE: Some of these comments may appear redundant, but the thread reset wiped them out, so I'm starting fresh in a sense.


Moleman, a couple of things. One, it hasn't been a year, and two, "because I want to edit again" is not a valid reason to lift a ban that was because you weren't editing properly in the first place. Like I said before the thread reset, are you going to treat YMMV examples properly? Arbitrarily removing them was what got you in trouble.


Hammerhead, Eddie's been coming down pretty hard on people who make edits just to gripe about the staff. The rest of the mods and I support him on this. I'm not favorably inclined toward anyone who thinks that's an acceptable way to behave. But it was your attitude about it that rubbed the wrong way. You seemed to feel that "not letting people cuss out the staff" was some kind of abrogation of your rights. Now I'm willing to let you back but it puts us in a bit of a tricky spot because someone may see it as condoning that attitude. Can we call pax?

edited 23rd Dec '11 11:01:51 AM by Fighteer

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Heart Heart from Skagen Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
Heart
Dec 23rd 2011 at 10:56:19 AM

Why am I blocked from editing? What did I do? I have been on here very little lately and I swear I have not been rude to anyone or anything, what did I do? I haven't been on any discussion pages. The only editing I have done lately was to the main Skyrim page, but all I've done is simply add some trope entries. Please may I edit again? I have only been making constructive edits and I would like to continue to contribute.

edited 23rd Dec '11 11:00:49 AM by Heart

Listen to your convictions, even if they seem absurd to your reason.
Fighteer MOD Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Dec 23rd 2011 at 11:04:42 AM

Heart, you were Edit Warring a piece of Natter about the Redguards. That's against the rules and you should know it.


portal2000, I'm sorry for being abrupt with you. As I said above to moleman, "wanting to edit" is not sufficient. You need to observe proper grammar and style rules. I'm not going to let you edit unless you demonstrate the ability to edit according to the standards we require.


Tsunde Ray: So this was just an aberration? You got mad and took it out on a page, complete with This Troper and such?

edited 23rd Dec '11 11:07:31 AM by Fighteer

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FastEddie MOD
Dec 23rd 2011 at 11:07:07 AM

woops

edited 23rd Dec '11 11:07:28 AM by FastEddie

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Fighteer MOD Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Dec 23rd 2011 at 11:08:54 AM

Lots of people to reply to. [pant pant]

AUS, I've got a note that some of your old edits were tagged with the reason "edit wars are cool". The ban was a preemptive strike against the possibility that you actually feel that way. Do you?

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Heart Heart from Skagen Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
Heart
Dec 23rd 2011 at 11:12:26 AM

I am very sorry about that. I honestly did not think what I wanted to add was "natter", it was a genuine piece of game lore I think related to a trope, it wasn't any sort of personal comment or conversation on the main page (at least I did not mean for it to seem that way) but if it was not allowed, I apologize. (I tried to reword to make sense of what I was trying to get across but I guess I did not do a very good job of that, I am sorry)

edited 23rd Dec '11 11:13:16 AM by Heart

Listen to your convictions, even if they seem absurd to your reason.
Fighteer MOD Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Dec 23rd 2011 at 11:17:56 AM

If you ever have to add a third-level bullet, reconsider. That's been a cardinal rule of the wiki for a long time. Additional bullets should never "elaborate on" an example. If what you have to say changes or corrects something about the entry above it, try to incorporate it into the example. If it justifies it somehow, then reconsider whether it's necessary at all. Above all else, keep the examples short and sweet.

Now, I haven't been over to the Skyrim article (too busy playing the game). I find that pages, left to themselves, tend to accumulate natter. There may be lots of other examples that suffer from this problem, but that doesn't excuse adding more.

Understand?

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Moleman9000 Moleman9000 from The Mole Hole
Moleman9000
Dec 23rd 2011 at 11:53:39 AM

To Fighteer: Yes, I promise I will. However, can I put YMMV tropes on the normal page if I make an article for my own work? Because it would be Word of God.

Ironeye MOD Cutmaster-san from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Dec 23rd 2011 at 12:13:06 PM

No. In fact, its probably a good idea to avoid anything YMMV for pages related to your own works.

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Moleman9000 Moleman9000 from The Mole Hole
Moleman9000
Dec 23rd 2011 at 1:35:27 PM

Okay then. Can I have editing privilages back then?

Hammerhead A Seducer of Gravity from Seattle
A Seducer of Gravity
Dec 23rd 2011 at 3:05:22 PM

I should be clear that I did not ever gripe about the staff/way the wiki is run in any actual articles - but rather in a discussion page for a then recently locked article, nor did I curse ('cept for the word "hell"). Still not appropriate at all, but I'd like to make the distinction.

But yes, I'm over it and simply want to edit and create articles again. I've always been sure to follow the rules when editing articles, using proper grammar and spelling, creating little Natter, and leaving out vitriol (whatever or whomever it's related to; for instance, if I have any lengthy criticism of the site, I certainly wouldn't put it in an article). Were you to let me back, it most certainly wouldn't be condoning what I did, and while I still may uphold a few of the beliefs I had, they aren't anything I would be espousing freely on the wiki, and it should be clear that there are consequences for doing so.

Little fish, big fish, swimmin' in the water, come back here and give me my daughter...
FastEddie MOD
Dec 23rd 2011 at 5:27:10 PM

Alright, Hammerhead. We'll give you a try again, on the wiki.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
robinsonaustin Complete Monster from Film
Complete Monster
Dec 23rd 2011 at 9:11:47 PM

Hello, I am Robinsonaustin. I received a notice that said that I was banned. You see him/her, I was having a rough day, and I was getting into trouble with the other tropers. I was on the Complete Monster page for Cartoon Network, and you see, I posted Family Guy on the list of monstrous characters. However, I forgot that Family Guy was owned by FOX instead of CN. And because of this, I feel remorseful for removing other pieces of information on other pages. I would like to edit again, please.

Why was the Nome King taken off of the list? Was he not malicious enough?
TsundeRay HOORAY! from Santa Clara, California
HOORAY!
Dec 23rd 2011 at 10:11:20 PM

Tsunde Ray: So this was just an aberration? You got mad and took it out on a page, complete with This Troper and such?
It was me simply erasing the entire page, under the excuse of "it's not a noteworthy enough game to warrant a page".

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FastEddie MOD
Dec 23rd 2011 at 10:41:43 PM

"Simply" erasing the entire page!?

Page blanking is our #1 no-no. On top of that, you drag in notoriety? You just do not get it, or you do get it and are trolling.

bye bye

edited 23rd Dec '11 10:42:19 PM by FastEddie

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