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Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#301: Nov 29th 2009 at 6:35:28 PM

She's always been doing that, IIRC. It was blatantly obvious in the anime, which is why she was initially against Rin moving in with Shirou.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#302: Nov 29th 2009 at 6:46:55 PM

Considering I've been spoiled about her identity (Thank you Tv Tropes) but yet to see any hint about it
Oddly enough, she's the only Servant who's identity I actually guessed, and I thought it was completely obvious. Just from watching the anime.

zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
The World Is Mine
#303: Nov 29th 2009 at 7:16:43 PM

Oh, and the Sex scene.

The freaky eyes kind of imply that it's Rider. It's probably one of her unstated abilities, and it might be the only way she can sustain her mana levels, not being able to obtain any from Shinji.

We have a a 10 years old Einzbern running around, she calls Shirou "Onii-Chan".

She's actually older than Shirou, she just calls him that out of affection for him. Shirou feels beholden to her, as he feels responsible for Kiritsugu's abandonment of her, and says that it's his duty as "Onii-chan" to protect her at all costs. Of course, near the end of HF, this dynamic is reversed, and it is Ilya who saves Shirou at the expense of her own life, not the other way round.

I feel that this is what makes HF the most complex narrative out of the three scenarios. HF is really principally about the sins of the father, his children, their siblings, and the ties that bind them all. Thematically it's rich and pretty dense, which gives it an epic scale that the other two never quite reach.

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Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#304: Nov 29th 2009 at 7:17:59 PM

HF is really the arc where you feel sorry for Ilya.

Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
Taller than Zim
#305: Nov 29th 2009 at 11:20:08 PM

RE: The sex-scene: It's implied that it's Rider using Shirou's dreams as a source of mana.

Maybe spoiler (not sure how far you've come)

Considering that both of her Matou Masters have issues (Shinji is jealous over Rin, Sakura of Rin) where that is concerned it's probably not unexpected of her to just assume that Shirou likes Rin.

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zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
The World Is Mine
#306: Nov 29th 2009 at 11:23:26 PM

Oddly enough, she's the only Servant who's identity I actually guessed, and I thought it was completely obvious. Just from watching the anime.

Well, if nothing else, her Noble Phantasm kind of gives it away (if you know your mythology), although not in the obvious way.

Pegasus sprang from Medusa's blood, IIRC, after Perseus cuts her head off.

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neobowman つ ◕_◕ ༽つ HELIX from Unidentified Proxy Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#307: Nov 30th 2009 at 1:39:52 AM

In Fate and UBW, Saber never really seemed all that powerful, as even though she was said to be the most powerful servant, she never managed to down another opponent easily. In HF though, Saber kills both Rider and Caster without breaking a sweat. Kind of refreshing to see the ownage.

edited 1st Dec '09 1:32:21 PM by neobowman

Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#308: Nov 30th 2009 at 1:45:42 AM

Well bear in mind she was being controlled by Dark Sakura. Talk about buffed up.

TheSevenNights Sorcerous Overlord Trainee from My phallic tower of... your MOM!~ Since: Nov, 2009
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#309: Dec 1st 2009 at 11:24:17 AM

but she also gets debuffed at some areas, like her riding skill: saber has above average, i think.. yet dark saber is totally nil on that... just 1 example...

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#310: Dec 1st 2009 at 11:32:14 AM

I finished watching the anime and got two questions...main difference between the anime and Fate Route (aside from the CGI DRAGON OUT OF NOWHERE thing, I mean)? and the second is: The Timeline where Shirou became Heroic Spirit Emiya...was similar to Fate route right?

edited 1st Dec '09 11:32:46 AM by vandro

TheAdversary Since: Jan, 2001
#311: Dec 1st 2009 at 11:51:38 AM

There were a couple differences (They did not summon the same Archer from the Fate route, for example) but otherwise, yeah. More or less. I think Shiro from the Fate route even still has some chances of becoming you-know-what.

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#312: Dec 1st 2009 at 2:53:13 PM

*suspects you guys have abandoned his liveblog*

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#313: Dec 1st 2009 at 2:56:59 PM

I don't read much liveblogs...I lose interest very quickly.

Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
Your army sucks.
#314: Dec 1st 2009 at 3:00:39 PM

I've said it once I'll say it again. Wicked I'm not keeping up with your liveblog because it's not Seorin's Let's Play.

And I thought that the anime timeline was the timeline where Shirou became Counter Guardian EMIYA.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#315: Dec 1st 2009 at 3:06:01 PM

To me that is logic...Neo Big Astral Nail...

Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#316: Dec 1st 2009 at 3:15:26 PM

@Wicked: I read it, but you haven't gotten to the fun parts yet.

Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#318: Dec 1st 2009 at 5:26:40 PM

And, for the record, when I say "fun", I don't mean that kind of fun.

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#319: Dec 1st 2009 at 5:37:08 PM

Noimporta: you are the dirty minded one.

TheSevenNights Sorcerous Overlord Trainee from My phallic tower of... your MOM!~ Since: Nov, 2009
Sorcerous Overlord Trainee
#320: Dec 1st 2009 at 6:07:43 PM

then what IS FUN THEN?

[[spoilers:Lol made you look]]

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TheSevenNights Sorcerous Overlord Trainee from My phallic tower of... your MOM!~ Since: Nov, 2009
Sorcerous Overlord Trainee
#321: Dec 1st 2009 at 6:07:44 PM

then what IS FUN THEN?

Lol made you look

edited 1st Dec '09 6:08:25 PM by The Seven Nights

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Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#322: Dec 1st 2009 at 6:08:16 PM

Your spoilers... aren't spoiling. tongue

TheSevenNights Sorcerous Overlord Trainee from My phallic tower of... your MOM!~ Since: Nov, 2009
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#323: Dec 1st 2009 at 6:09:52 PM

naayus ko na mapi...

ok then! let's have a POLL as to what are the fun parts in FSN!

me? GILGAMESH RIPPING ILYA'S HEA— joke.

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Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#324: Dec 1st 2009 at 6:11:49 PM

Wait, do you mean Fun or Funny?

If it's the latter, then my answer is Lancer.

TheSevenNights Sorcerous Overlord Trainee from My phallic tower of... your MOM!~ Since: Nov, 2009
Sorcerous Overlord Trainee
#325: Dec 1st 2009 at 6:14:27 PM

whatever brings a smile to your face...

me? Shiki fighting Nero-Ch—wait, wrong franchise..

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