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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1126: Apr 2nd 2018 at 7:14:31 AM

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There was actually a Sacrier demigodess in their ranks. But yeah, it would be interesting it was revealed that Cra secretly mothered Evangeline and Cleophee with one her followers. I know in this time the gods of the pantheon are more seclusive, however, it would be interesting if Cra came down to mingle with the humans and had children as a result.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#1127: Apr 3rd 2018 at 1:40:57 PM

It would be nice if all demigods had backstories. Semi-wacky as the universe is, I'm sure they would find a bunch of funny ideas as to why some demigods came to be.

So far we only have a clear origin for Ush, Dark Vlad/Goultard and Dathura. The other's origin are unknown.

Also, I realize it's not always clear which are gods and which are goddesses, so here's the list:

  • Gods: Iop, Xelor, Enutrof, Sram, Sadida, Ecaflip, Osamodas
  • Goddesses: Cra, Eniripsa, Sacrier, Feca, Pandawa

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1128: Apr 3rd 2018 at 5:00:35 PM

I do think Evangeline before she became Amalia's bodyguard hasn't really been explored. We've seen her sister, but never her parents. I really like the idea that she could possibly be a demigodess herself.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#1129: Apr 7th 2018 at 12:48:20 PM

You know it would be interesting if turned out that Evangeline was a Cra demigodess.
I don't know what you're talking about. She's already a goddess. wink

TBH with Tristepin having the powers temporarily, I don't think it's really necessary for god candidates to be family anymore. But I don't want a Bleach twist. It wouldn't be interesting,it would just kind of come off as random. Like they're Writing By The Seat of Their Pants.

I do think Evangeline before she became Amalia's bodyguard hasn't really been explored. We've seen her sister, but never her parents. I really like the idea that she could possibly be a demigodess herself.
I don't know if she's actually an official bodyguard? They were childhood friends before that for sure. Caring for her safety seemed to be basically the reason why she tagged along.

edited 7th Apr '18 1:02:33 PM by xanderiskander

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1130: Apr 7th 2018 at 12:55:55 PM

It would still rock in my opinion if Cra disguised herself as a mortal woman mothered children which resulted in Evangeline and Cleophee. As people say Cra is a responsible goddess, so I think she would actually properly marry the father of her children and stick to actually parenting her daughters.

Or how about an Ouginak demigod/demigodess.

edited 7th Apr '18 1:00:48 PM by firewriter

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#1131: Apr 7th 2018 at 1:05:27 PM

Ouginaks venerate an aspect of the god Ecaflip. Kind of like how Masqueraders' Masks get their origins from Sadida magic. Foggernauts also used to worship an aspect of Osamadas called Oktopodas that has to do with sea fauna. They ended up rejecting nature, and embracing technology.

The Rogue's origins are kind of funny. They had their own god, Raval, originally but Sram duped them into thinking he was a servant of the real Rogue god and basically stole his followers.

edited 7th Apr '18 1:24:19 PM by xanderiskander

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1132: Apr 7th 2018 at 1:34:09 PM

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You know the reason why I thought Ecaflip and Ouginark were different, because I thought it was an in-universe rumor if they were really two sides of the same coin. Then again I have been wrong before about the lore.

Also apparently Ruel is a demi-god as well. His own father is Enutrof. One thing I won't understand is how a dragon like god can make his followers look dwarfish.

http://krosmoz.wikia.com/wiki/Ruel_Stroud

edited 7th Apr '18 1:37:43 PM by firewriter

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#1133: Apr 7th 2018 at 1:48:27 PM

I don't think that wiki is really accurate. Aside from there not being a source it doesn't look like that particular wiki is well maintained. For one thing it has a section for season 1, on that page but doesn't have anything written down... A different wikia doesn't say anything about the God Enutrof under family.

I have no idea what the scheme with Ruel was supposed to be, but I heard they had to do something to write him away from the group, because his voice actor died while they were making the episodes.

edited 7th Apr '18 1:54:02 PM by xanderiskander

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1134: Apr 7th 2018 at 1:54:55 PM

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Ok. It would be interesting if Ruel was a demi-god, which would be the reason why he would replace Enutrof.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#1135: Apr 7th 2018 at 1:56:56 PM

They wanted to have him be the new Enutrof god somehow, but they never really explained it in detail.

edited 7th Apr '18 1:57:29 PM by xanderiskander

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1136: Apr 7th 2018 at 2:03:14 PM

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Yeah, that would have been interesting to focus on if they had more episodes in the season. I still wonder as well who would have been the new Cra god/goddess.

https://www.wakfu.com/en/forum/77-animated-series/207256-tristepin-real-cause-ogrests-chaos-spoilers

Also here is some touchy piece of lore that pertains to Grovy's past life as Iop. Let's just say his god former self was like Zeus when it came to women.

edited 7th Apr '18 2:14:57 PM by firewriter

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#1137: Apr 7th 2018 at 7:27:56 PM

Finally got to watch the first episode. Well that escalated quickly. At least Adamai appears to only have 4 of the 6 Eliotrope Dofus. Either that or the rest weren't shown, since it seems weird that he would only take 4 of them. Also, evil!Adamai reminds me a lot of Mewtwo. Both in terms of being stupidly overpowered and having large tails. Also, what was the deal with Elilie suddenly turning yellow and racing towards Tristepin? Previously, that aura was associated with the Lop god, but it's not like she momentarily became a god, right?

Edit: After looking more closely, I noticed there are two bulges on the back of Adamai's hands, which presumably hold the remaining two dofus. I guess that answers that.

Also, I noticed something else interesting: In the french dub, Tristepin says that Goultard is *the* Lop god, but in the English dub he says that he is *a* Lop god. I wonder why there's a difference. It's especially interesting, since given all the spoilers here I've been trying to avoid, it sounds like gods will be important this season.

P.P.S It was odd hearing Poo say that the brotherhood had "entré dans la légende", given the dark meaning that phrase has had since the season 1 finale. Though given Poo's later reveal, the double meaning isn't entirely inappropriate.

edited 7th Apr '18 8:49:37 PM by storyyeller

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#1138: Apr 7th 2018 at 9:39:55 PM

[up]I must have missed that line but I didn't think that Goultard was the/a Iop god at all. I thought he was just the son of one.

Also holy crap Adamai. Frieza much?

edited 7th Apr '18 9:45:16 PM by LordVatek

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#1139: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:14:41 AM

Goultard took over after his dad Iop got tired of being divine. So Goultard handles all the god stuff, while Iop reincarnated as something similar.

One thing I like about the Wakfu pantheon is how weird and disorganized it is. Most fantasy pantheons feel more scripted- these are the gods, this is where they came from, this is what they do. And their domains and powers are defined, so they only grant specific miracles to their followers. With Wakfu, the gods feel like a diverse bunch of weirdos with particular hobbies, who got together and took over a planet. My personal theory is that Xelor is really a naked blue guy under those horns, with an interest in watchmaking.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#1140: Apr 8th 2018 at 1:44:39 PM

Goultard is the son of Iop who took over divine duties when Iop decided that he was bored and wanted to experience the excitement of an adventurer's life again - as Sadlygrove. So technically, both Goultard and Sadlygrove have been the Iop God, which means that both of them is "a" Iop God. Elely "just" has a bit of Iop's power.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1141: Apr 8th 2018 at 8:52:55 PM

Sadlygrove wasn't the first mortal incarnation of Iop after Iop got tired of being a god. He's just the most recent one. It's why he develops so much angst when he discovers the truth. Thinking about all of the families he started and abandoned throughout his past lives is soul-crushing. Especially since his past self's son Goultard is around.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#1142: Apr 8th 2018 at 9:18:48 PM

I have some serious mixed feelings regarding Yugo and Amalia. I know they're around the same age (and this has been building up for a while) but their appearances are really throwing me off and squicking me out.

edited 8th Apr '18 9:19:17 PM by LordVatek

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#1143: Apr 9th 2018 at 9:57:43 PM

So on to Episode 2: Is every season going to begin with Tristepin apparently dead? Is this going to be a thing now? At least it didn't stick for long this time.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1144: Apr 10th 2018 at 12:48:52 AM

Wakfu does put him through the wringer, doesn't it? Being repeatedly possessed, treated like a joke, killed twice, loses an arm...

One hopes his kids don't inherit his terrible luck.

edited 10th Apr '18 12:49:38 AM by M84

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#1145: Apr 10th 2018 at 3:51:28 AM

It's almost as if being a reckless Leeroy Jenkins had consequences really.

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#1146: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:09:28 AM

Well, most of the time it doesn't.

[down] Yep. Most of the time it's just wacky shenanigans.

edited 10th Apr '18 7:12:01 AM by Adannor

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#1147: Apr 10th 2018 at 6:34:38 AM

The irony is, Pinpin only gets punished when he's being a Leeroy Jenkins for noble purposes- Taking the Bullet, trying to save the world from Ogrest, buying time for his family.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#1148: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:09:30 AM

It makes sense from a Doylist POV for the drama to happen during serious sequences, not wacky ones.

But yeah, the more serious and attached he becomes, the more he is injured. He's basically Wakfu's Leon.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#1149: Apr 11th 2018 at 10:38:06 PM

Just watched episodes 3 and 4. Now I can understand why everyone was talking so much about the pantheon. I guess that's going to be the theme of the season. Actually, it will probably be mostly them climbing the tower. Although there aren't enough episodes left for one per tower, so I guess they'll either combine or skip them.

Edit: On to episode 5: I was wondering in the previous episode why Tristepin was so worried about stepping in things when I thought he wore sandals. At least his season 1 outfit included large sandals. I'm not sure whether he stopped wearing them at some point or whether he's going barefoot now because he got blown out of his house and never had a chance to grab shoes.

Anyway, I didn't understand the whole evil avatar thing, but the episode definitely had some over the top fight scenes. In fact, that was basically the whole episode.

I also noticed some more subtle differences with the translation. For example, when Tristepin first approaches Vlad, he says that he's the *first* Lop god, but it is translated as the *true* Lop god. There's also one line that the subs missed entirely. Guess the dialog was just going by too fast for them.

edited 12th Apr '18 10:17:58 PM by storyyeller

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#1150: Apr 13th 2018 at 12:01:31 PM

That's actually "Iop" with an "i" as in "iceberg" - it's how you pronounce a famous brand of liquid yoghurt in France (short for its mother brand, Yoplait). It was one of the three first classes added to the Dofus game, along with Sram and Feca - they all were named after what the devs were eating while designing the game ; liquid yoghurt, Mars chocolate bars and coffee. After that you have the Sdrawkcab Name classes more-or-less linked to the nature of the class - Enutrof, Eniripsa, Sadida, Ecaflip, Xelor, Cra, Osamodas - and then names more straightforward - Pandawa, Sacrieur, Zobal, Roublard/Rogue, Huppermage, Steamer - and then Sdrawkcab Name again because the names existed before the classes - Eliotrope, Ouginak.

As for Dark Vlad, he is the evil, possessed version of Goultard and an old Dofus boss - he is the Guardian of one of the Dofuses in the game and you can get it by defeating him. I think it goes at follows:

  • Young hero Goultard in his village
  • Attacked by the evil Katar who kills his family
  • It happens that he was possessed and wanted to provoke a stronger host to get rid of his demon
  • The demon transfers to Goultard who becomes Goultard the Barbarian
  • Then Goultard the Barbarian splits into a "heroic side", Vald, and an "evil side", Dark Vlad

edited 13th Apr '18 12:06:04 PM by Julep


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