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The city-states doing that is consistently portrayed as a bad thing too.
The rest of that nonsense, I'm not even doing to dignify with acknowledgement.
Edited by Perseus on Sep 14th 2021 at 11:18:30 PM
Thancred's main arc is about him accepting Minfilia's death and being able to move past his feelings of failure and regret. He saw Ryne as her own person yet he also wanted Minfilia to come back. It tore him up and made consider what he should do yet he constantly pushed Ryne away so he wouldn't have to face what choice she would make.
Not really as the city-states are rather comfortable with it. And tell me how what I said was "nonsense"? It makes a lot of sense in the story.
ain't gonna make me take the bait chief
I don't see how it is bait.
Imperialism is bad.
We just had a major patch story arc where Limsa Lominsa made a historic pact to stop taking land and resources from the beast tribes, if you'll recall.
Aside from that, yeah, I'm not going to argue the merits of racial-supremacist imperialism with you.
That isn't even bait. It concerns conversations from earlier about Garlemald and its conquest of land. Garlemald taking land isn't the problem its more on how they treat non-Garleans which varies by ruler.
Edited by TomWalker27 on Sep 14th 2021 at 9:39:37 AM
I figured Limsa would do that considering the problem they had with antagonizing the Kobolds and Sahagin yet I can also see the pact not lasting if Merylwb or someone else decides to go against it. Imperialism doesn't have anything to do with race until you actually make your conquest of land about it.
Edited by TomWalker27 on Sep 14th 2021 at 9:34:20 AM
Then I will be sure to post my comments in one whole comment.
In the simplest possible terms, Garlemald taking land from other people is bad because those people don't want Garlemald to take their land. That's why it's a problem. Are we clear on that part?
Yet how did those states get their land? Simple: They took it. And there is nothing wrong with that. Same with Garlemald taking territory themselves.
Edited by TomWalker27 on Sep 14th 2021 at 9:41:15 AM
To offer a different, potentially more entertaining derailment, I saw a youtube comment today that offered up a rather interesting idea: Eden Good King Moggle Mog XII.
I haven't reached the Eden raids personally, but my understanding is they're Primal fights misremembered by the Warrior of Light. Suggestions I saw in the thread included mixing the Mooglesguard with the Knights of the Round, or Godbert with a Moogle head.
On the subject of things in-game I have reached, I now have every Magic and War job at level 50 or higher (not counting those that start at 60, I have RDM at 60 and SMN/SCH at 58)
Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 14th 2021 at 6:43:42 AM
Good King Thordan Mog would have been perfect and it's a travesty that it didn't happen.
That is practically suggested by the conservations after each Primal fight in Eden. Urianger actually brings it up after Eden's Verse.
The Xaela, Domans, Bozjans, and Dalmascans lived on their land for centuries. Same with the Gridanians, Ala Mhigans, Ishgardians, etc. Ul'dah is built on the bones of centuries-old Lalafellin ruins, and Limsa recently renegotiated its pact with the kobolds.
In any case, if we have to start by debating the point that cultural imperialism is wrong, then this is a waste of time.
Eden Good King Moggle Mog is a terrifying collection of words and I hate that you made me type it. It's a good thing no one thought to bring him up during the Eden sequence, or we might have Stay Puft Marshmallow Man'd him into existence.
Also I doubt that the Warrior of Light would confuse Thordan and Good King Moggle Mog XII.
Xaela, Domans, Bozjans, Dalmascans, Gridanians, Ala Mhigans, and Ishgardians all came from different areas and took over other lands especially the Ala Mhigans and Ishgardians with the same applying to the others. Do you really think they had those same exact lands under the same lineage throughout their history? No. Bozja made a kidngom out of taking lands from Allag, Gridania had three civilizations which dominated the world through expansion and magic, etc. Do you think the people who lost to them all wanted to be taken over? No. Were those states wrong? No.
Edited by TomWalker27 on Sep 14th 2021 at 9:52:43 AM
An Eden version of Good King Moogle Mog would need to have The Haunted Mansion music instead of Nightmare Before Christmas Music to be perfect IMO.
Edited by Karxrida on Sep 14th 2021 at 6:46:54 AM
They're both unaspected "king" primals with underlings that comprise a major part of their battles.
Of course, being unaspected means there's little reason for them to be summoned within the logic of the Eden storyline. So it goes.
Edited by Perseus on Sep 14th 2021 at 11:48:36 PM
I didn't know their elemental aspects were a part of the Eden raid. I'm not familiar with the lore involved (Still in Heavensward). I mostly just thought it was an amusing idea from what I do know of the raid.
Is Eden an 8-man or an Alliance raid?
Eden is a Normal Raid. So 8-man.
Also the elemental alignments are super important to the storyline of the sequence.
Eden is the 8-man raid series of Shadowbringers.
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