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Dec 5th 2018 at 8:36:58 AM

They tolerate Goblin traders at least.

Everyone else can fuck right off, though

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Pyromantic
Dec 5th 2018 at 8:42:49 AM

well, i guess the ala mhigan resistance has ananta in its ranks, but it seems that was born out of necessity than acceptance

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 5th 2018 at 9:04:25 AM

Don't forget that compared to the rest of the world, Eorzea is kinda backwards in a lot of things. Combine this with the beastmen constantly summoning primals over and over and you can sort of see why everyone's so racist.

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 5th 2018 at 9:57:55 AM

I took a few screenshots of the book but I gotta go to work in a bit. You can find them here, but I will be taking them down by the end of today.

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Pyromantic
Dec 5th 2018 at 10:03:32 AM

ok so the primary cause of eorzea's racism was corrupt merchants

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Dec 5th 2018 at 10:13:42 AM

That's interesting that they're so overt about drawing attention to it in this.

NaraNumas Pun Dragon
Pun Dragon
Dec 5th 2018 at 12:13:31 PM

Yeah, once you started slipping into even just Ishgard, it became clear that racism towards the beast tribes was something that was purely created by the three city-states of Eorzia. They persecute the beast tribes until they summon their primals, and summoning their primals makes it logical to persecute them. A non-dismissable part of that is probably Ascian interference, of course, but still.

I do like how the articles are written from an in-universe perspective, so there can be wiggle room that can be referred to as bad information, and they're missing details on things of the bigger scheme like Ascian manipulation except for rough guessing regarding it.

Hobgoblin Cool Blue Magic from Jylland Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Cool Blue Magic
Dec 5th 2018 at 2:06:11 PM

I would hope that Bangaa and Seeq exist given that they've been in the game since 4.1. tongue

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 5th 2018 at 6:25:37 PM

I thought they were conjured ala primals at first.

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 5th 2018 at 7:04:07 PM

I just updated my posted link with pages regarding how dragons speak. Naranumas, you better look!

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NaraNumas Pun Dragon
Pun Dragon
Dec 5th 2018 at 9:02:52 PM

[up] You are good people, dragon approves.

Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 5th 2018 at 10:10:53 PM

I'll also try to update the character pages when I can.

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OmegaRadiance Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Dec 5th 2018 at 10:23:57 PM

Not everything needs Ascian involvement. Just a lot of it.

Sometimes people just suck on their own and the Ascians increase those tensions to benefit their goal and/or balance.

Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 5th 2018 at 10:28:45 PM

Speaking of sucking...the Muud Suud mobs in the Fringes are actually voidsent according to the book:

  • The final days of the Garlean invasion found the few remaining Ala Mhigan soldiers holed up in their crumbling castle. Knowing they had little choice left for survival, court mages rent open the barrier between this realm and the void, summoning beings to inhabit the bodies of their fallen Highlander and Hellsguard comrades on hopes that the demons would honor the hastily sealed covenant. The voidsent did not, and the muud suud still roam free.

Good job, court mages!

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NaraNumas Pun Dragon
Pun Dragon
Dec 5th 2018 at 11:37:01 PM

Since they're talking Viera in the lorebook, I wonder if they'll have any mention on Blue Mage's origins.

Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 6th 2018 at 7:46:58 AM

Book has zero mention of blue mages.

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Hobgoblin Cool Blue Magic from Jylland Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Cool Blue Magic
Dec 6th 2018 at 9:20:20 AM

[up][up][up]That's mentioned on their Triple Triad card, actually.

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 6th 2018 at 10:45:40 AM

Pfft who has time to read those

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Hobgoblin Cool Blue Magic from Jylland Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Cool Blue Magic
Dec 6th 2018 at 10:53:08 AM

I read those. sad

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 6th 2018 at 11:11:42 AM Something something thoughts and prayers
NaraNumas Pun Dragon
Pun Dragon
Dec 6th 2018 at 1:33:31 PM

The game has a surprisingly large amount of lore and worldbuilding behind things like TT cards and those pointless sidequests that are just barely worth their weight in XP, it's actually kinda amusing and gives it a little bit of charm, but it's also part of the reason why consolidating information is such a massive pain the arse.

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Good Guy Cid
Dec 6th 2018 at 6:35:38 PM

Don't remind me.

I learned more about the Kobold aggression from a level 6 side quest, than the whole Titan chain of MSQ. >.>;

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Steven from The Room Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dec 6th 2018 at 7:55:33 PM

If they did try to cram the Kobold's history into the MSQ (amongst other details from other side quests), ARR would be fucking huge.

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Hobgoblin Cool Blue Magic from Jylland Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Cool Blue Magic
Dec 8th 2018 at 8:26:37 AM

So, what details are there about Ivalice in the new lorebook? I'm trying to see what the time frame was for when it was taken over, if it was one of the first Garlean occupied territories, etc.

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NaraNumas Pun Dragon
Pun Dragon
Dec 9th 2018 at 12:05:46 PM

They mention 30 years ago in the quest cutscenes itself (having finally gotten caught up to them last night), I think the Garlean expansionism started 50 years before Legacy began, so I would say it may not have been the first conquest unless they spent 20 years either preparing or actively at war with Dalmasca.


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