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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#1001: Feb 11th 2013 at 6:10:43 AM

Eh. It's a Just for Fun page, and not terribly subjective at that, since you can at least point to two (or more) distinct parts of a work (generally one publically know, and one less known) you may like it for. I think it can go either way with having YMMV, really.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#1002: Feb 11th 2013 at 9:36:54 AM

Isn't Just for Fun rather inherently YMMV? I'm not sure we need an additional banner stating that.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1003: Feb 11th 2013 at 10:10:13 AM

And accordingly, pulled it off Audience Reactions.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
nemui10pm from outer space Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1004: Feb 24th 2013 at 12:40:02 AM

How about Who Is This Guy Again It looks like Audience Reactionnote .

edited 24th Feb '13 12:41:11 AM by nemui10pm

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1005: Feb 24th 2013 at 1:01:22 AM

Most of the examples I saw look like "these characters don't get obvious names", which isn't YMMV.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1006: Feb 24th 2013 at 1:20:55 AM

I don't think Adorkable is YMMV - to at least some extent, it's something writers deliberately try to create, plus it would just make it a gushing page.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#1007: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:33:48 AM

I'm not completely sure if The Schlub Pub Seduction Deduction should be added to the crowner. The title and the description is written entirely as an Audience Reaction, but the examples are fairly objective.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1008: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:45:46 AM

That is a trope. It just needs a better description.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#1009: Mar 12th 2013 at 12:47:47 PM

Nominating Designated Monkey- it is, following the description, a reaction of fans. Beyond it, Creator's Pet lists it as their opposite.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1010: Mar 12th 2013 at 1:08:12 PM

Agree on it, and why does the name sound like the opposite?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#1011: Mar 19th 2013 at 8:00:22 AM

I am nominating Poor Man's Substitute. It is about the fame of an actor, after all.

edited 19th Mar '13 8:03:50 AM by MagBas

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#1012: Mar 19th 2013 at 8:40:25 AM

Fame is generally easily provable enough to be effectively non-subjective. I don't think Poor Man's Substitute should be made YMMV; I think the examples should be pruned to cases where casting decisions were made based on the similarities (which removes subjectivity and "some people say" entirely).

However, I do think it should be made Trivia. Once it's run its course here, I'll try to remember to bring it up in that thread.

edited 19th Mar '13 8:40:46 AM by Nocturna

MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#1013: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:01:20 PM

Nominating Chorus-Only Song and Second Verse Curse (not to be confused with Single Stanza Song). A song being only known for its chorus or for one verse is not a trope, it's how a song is remembered by audiences.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1014: Mar 23rd 2013 at 2:44:37 AM

Agree on both of them.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
EditorPallMall Don't Fear the Spiders from United States, East Coast Since: Feb, 2013
Don't Fear the Spiders
#1016: Mar 25th 2013 at 3:47:31 PM

I found a trope that is NOT suggestive. Junk Rare - based on the st two paragraphs of the article:

''There are the awesome, powerful rare cards that you're eagerly praying to see when you crack open a booster pack...and then there are these. A Junk Rare is weak, narrow, useless, or otherwise undesirable, and to make matters worse, it's rare. So much for Power Equals Rarity.

Naturally, one player's Awesome, but Impractical is another player's Who Cares How Impractical It Is, It's Awesome! And one should never underestimate the power of Narm Charm. And 100% Completion.''

Narm Charm, 100% Completion, and "awesomeness" have nothing to do with competitive gameplay. The trope is clearly about when cards are rare but lack usefulness from a strategic perspective. That is not something that should be treated suggestively; either a card works or it does not.

Strong proposal to remove the YMMV tag from this page.

edited 25th Mar '13 3:48:12 PM by EditorPallMall

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1017: Mar 25th 2013 at 3:50:13 PM

Proposition seems to have merit. Aye.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#1018: Mar 25th 2013 at 5:26:20 PM

Game-Breaker is another YMMV based solely in the opinion of the competitive gameplay.

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#1019: Mar 25th 2013 at 5:39:55 PM

The precedent established earlier in this thread with Alas, Poor Villain is that taking a trope off YMMV requires TRS, so I expect that would hold here.

That said, I would agree with a proposition to remove Junk Rare from the YMMV index.

Regarding Game-Breaker, I'm 99% sure that that is YMMV for the same reason that, for instance, Complete Monster is—it seems like it should be objective, but people just can't agree in reality (how much of an advantage does a character have to have before they count as "broken"?), sparking natter and edit wars.

NineTailedCat Toss a pearl to your Watcher from bad to worse (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#1020: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:58:57 PM

Say, why is The Ship Yard listed as YMMV? It's not a trope; it's a collection of (usually nautical) puns. I don't see anything particularly subjective about it.

I like cute things. You gotta deal with it.
MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#1021: Mar 28th 2013 at 6:50:52 PM

I have no idea why The Ship Yard is listed on YMMV. It shouldn't be - it's a Just for Fun page.

Also agreeing that Junk Rare should not be YMMV.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1023: Mar 28th 2013 at 10:36:47 PM

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with My Timing Is Off? I'd say s/he's correct - it's not even a page about shipping as such, it's a place for suggesting new X Ship style puns. Giving that those aren't really approved of anymore - in fact, there was at one time an attempt at getting rid of them - Just for Fun is about the only thing it can qualify as. It's not YMMV, because it has nothing to do with actual shipping.

NineTailedCat Toss a pearl to your Watcher from bad to worse (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Toss a pearl to your Watcher
#1024: Mar 29th 2013 at 1:22:37 AM

With all due respect, what Nrjxll said is correct. The Ship Yard is not an actual shipping trope; rather, it's a collection of puns. I do agree that it shouldn't be linked in main articles, but it has about as much business on YMMV as Heard Any Good Jokes Lately? does.

I like cute things. You gotta deal with it.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1025: Mar 29th 2013 at 1:41:54 AM

JustForFun.The Ship Yard is subjective because it was once on The Ship Yard, and shipping is subjective.

We'd have to change The Ship Yard to the literal trope before pulling the banners or else the YMMV material is going to come in.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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6th Apr '12 3:44:26 AM

Crown Description:

YMMV is for items that are reactions of the audience to works and tropes that need a significant judgment call to tell whether they exist objectively or not.

Should these items become members of YMMV?

Note: Audience Reactions need to be subjective, emotional responses and things that are likely to cause arguments and disagreements. Merely being outside a work or inside an audience don't make things YMMV

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