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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#34801: Oct 27th 2019 at 12:39:14 AM

He's spousing more nonsense as usual.

Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#34802: Oct 27th 2019 at 1:39:00 AM

Hoembie being actually trans idea fails to match up with Tats massive hatred boner for them. Sisterhood bitch even accepted her as female, and that'd never happen with a transwoman.

He's just driving into deeper and deeper nonsense.

Edited by Adannor on Oct 27th 2019 at 11:39:36 AM

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#34803: Oct 27th 2019 at 2:51:21 AM

Wait. Once again, people are wondering why the comic seems to make no sense.

That's because ... the comic makes no sense!

THIS! IS! SINFEST!

The charitable explanation is that Tats is obeying the whims of a Significant Other.

The more likely explanation is that Tats is batshit crazy.

Take your pick.

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 27th 2019 at 2:53:21 AM

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#34804: Oct 27th 2019 at 3:37:05 AM

All the problems already mentioned are worsened 1000% by the fact that all Tats's "attractive" women look exactly the same.

I think this comic is indeed meant to be a shocking reveal that (gasp!) ZOMBIE PROSTITUTE IS GHOST GIRL ALL ALONG, but all the prostitutes look so similar that I can't confirm that.

How ridiculous is it that we need to count how many eye piercings the prostitutes have to tell them apart?

Combine the sameface problems with Tats ridiculous refusal to name his characters and you get a story written so poorly that the audience can't even tell who the characters are.

In a 100% VISUAL MEDIUM drawn by a man who has been drawing comics as a professional for most of his life we can't identify the main characters on sight.

This is Sonichu levels of fail. How does Tats keep screwing things up at the most basic levels of telling a story?

NeedsAirCon from Access Denied....Human Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#34805: Oct 27th 2019 at 4:28:57 AM

It's pretty simple. It's all about Beneath the Mask

Nameless Honbie Girl is depicted as a moronic, drug addicted, brainwashed, hooker under her mask of makeup, submission and glamour. Pretty on the outside, pitiful on the inside

Just think every negative sterotype about female street prostitutes and watch as Tats shoehorns them in with all the finesse of a tank trying to perform ballet

There's truth there to a lot of streetwalker's personal situations. Drugs to make you cope with your dreadful job (and to help control you if your pimp is your supplier), paint to make you look marketable and surrendering your self agency to someone who controls and profits from you

So, yes, I'm actually defending Tats (please send help!) on this one strip. It's the previous strips that make this micro-arc so pathetic in total

Being Tats, which is a terible fate for anyone, he does have strong klaxons going off in the background about penis being bad for women, and muffins being good for them.

(Personally I can recommend the Raspberry Cheescake Muffin from Starbucks)

He'd write a lot better about these issues in general if he didn't let his outdated rad fem agenda twist the narrative (Or if he treated his characters as actual people with backgrounds, histories and names)

Tat's plots in general are starting to remind me of Ankh-Morpork and Terry Pratchett. A brilliant and truly great writer, but it always looked to me that almost every story set in Ankh-Morpork seemed to involve a plot to overthrow the Patrician somehow

Tats now gives me the same sense of repetitiveness with none of Pratchett's brilliance when it comes to "his" plots. Tats is a dull "shiny" stone instead of the diamond he used to be

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Oct 27th 2019 at 11:31:07 AM

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hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#34806: Oct 27th 2019 at 4:56:51 AM

[up] I think no one is contesting that the life of a person forced into prostitution is terrible and that this should never happen to anyone.

Where I do have a problem is that Tats pretends that all sex work, ranging from porn to prostitution, is ALWAYS, under ANY circumstance abusive. Voluntary or not. All men are disgusting undead rapists and misogynists, all women are innocent victims of the Patriarchy. There is no alternative to this and anyone who pretends there is, is also an undead ugly stinky poopiehead.

Add to that the completely anvilicious and poor presentation of these beliefs and you have the fascinating train wreck that is Sinfest today!

Edited by hayate666 on Oct 27th 2019 at 12:58:35 PM

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#34807: Oct 27th 2019 at 5:06:44 AM

Nameless Honbie Girl is depicted as a moronic, drug addicted, brainwashed, hooker under her mask of makeup, submission and glamour. Pretty on the outside, pitiful on the inside

This allegory works, but — as you say — only for this one comic page. The problem is that we met her previously as Dissociating Ghost Handmaid, and even in her ghost form she looked like a normal human woman (although damned near identical to just about all of Tats' other human women).

Tats never explained how it came to pass that she looked like a zombie in the first place.

And is Tats now telling us that zombies are sympathetic characters?

And what happened to October and Halloween? And to Li'l Evil and Satan and Hekate? And did Nana do anything in response to Hekate's message? And has anyone seen Leon lately? Or Ms. Liberty? Where is Medic? And ...
Hey! Let go of me! No! Not the Thorazine! Mmmrrmff ...

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 27th 2019 at 5:11:36 AM

FicklePickle The Red Bell from an island Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Singularity
#34808: Oct 27th 2019 at 5:36:05 AM

[up] Those questions are justifiable, it seems like nothing really changed at all and the entire arc can be easily summarized with a sentence. I miss Slick and Vain even if they're still here

A Slick fan
NeedsAirCon from Access Denied....Human Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#34809: Oct 27th 2019 at 6:48:19 AM

Whoop!

Down to 371; and 1,165 dollahs

More people must have let their patreon subs run out. How can that be?

There is no alternative to this and anyone who pretends there is, is also an undead ugly stinky poopiehead.

Yup, that's how, it's like listening to a civil rights lecture being given by a Dalek.

Right words, maybe, some of the time, but you know there's something pretty drastically wrong with the speaker and their attitude

In answer to your questions, Hex: -

Lil' E is adjusting to life with Big D

Big D is adjusting to life with Tange. Maybe he'll pay for that brain operation she needs soon

Hekate is hiding in the woods still wishing she'd snared Big D for herself and that Lil' E and Vain Glorious were never born. Now I'm wondering what Big D actually stands for since she's still so hung up on him

Nana baked a protective circle of cupcakes to protect Lil' E and Tange. Good until someone gets the munchies or they go stale (when it'll get filed under Epic Fail)

Leon was last seen watching Woke TV in a storefront window. He'll exist again when Tats feels like being political

Miss Liberty doesn't exist either until Tats figures out how to correlate fembots with his Terf viewpoint or it gets to American election time

Medic got kicked out of the sisterhood for not being a Rad Fem's fantasy of a woman acting exactly like the kind of men she's supposed to hate (and for behaving like an actual medic is supposed to)

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#34810: Oct 27th 2019 at 9:02:51 AM

So Ghost Girl is a zombie?

That just raises further questions!

Like, has she been a zombie the entire time?

For f*ck's sake Tats, why do you have to be so confusing?!

Fandragon Since: Feb, 2017
#34811: Oct 27th 2019 at 11:15:28 AM

[up] "...all the finesse of a tank trying to perform ballet" Heh. Imma steal that one for everyday use :)

There are many MANY things that piss me off about the comic lately, but what's bugging me the most is this idea that anyone who a) works in the sex industry or b) accepts that trans people have a right to exist (and possibly c) is a female who's happy in a heterosexual relationship with a man) has been brainwashed into a zombie and has to take drugs to appear normal. Tats thinks he's created a clever metaphor for the "real" world, but what he's actually done is remove any reason to actually LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH HIM. Sex workers want a way to be protected rather than persecuted by the law? Brainwashed. Are actually trans, or who want to protect friends and/or family who are trans? Brainwashed. Don't think that heterosexual males are automatically sex-crazed rapists? Brainwashed. It's like arguing with conspiracy theorists; there's literally no real-world evidence you can provide that can't be countered with "that's just what they WANT you to think".

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#34812: Oct 27th 2019 at 2:01:13 PM

Non-importation of non-drama:

It has been ten days since anyone posted anything on the Sinfest Fan Club.

Tats' "appeal has become more selective." (Classical reference.)

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 27th 2019 at 2:06:12 AM

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#34813: Oct 27th 2019 at 2:08:48 PM

NeedsAirCon wrote:

Now I'm wondering what Big D actually stands for since she's still so hung up on him

Hekate isn't hung up on Satan. She's just pissed off that Satan rejected her. How dare he!

bigking Since: Apr, 2011
#34814: Oct 27th 2019 at 5:25:50 PM

I'm going to take this one at face value.

The girl was taken for a ride by the angry pimp hat.

The pimp informs her that her face looks kinda messed up after her traumatic experience.

She then goes and fixes herself up and looks better after getting herself back together.

No stupid poorly thought out metaphors anywhere.

Ahhhhhh. Bliss.

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#34815: Oct 27th 2019 at 7:10:27 PM

[up] Except that she was zombified well before she encountered the Flying Fedora. She looked like that when Xanthe gave her the cupcake. We can't even blame her appearance on a poisoned cupcake. sad

Gibson35 King Kitty from Hunting in the jungle for s'mores Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
King Kitty
#34817: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:15:01 PM

Huh, looks like a torrential downpour of disappointment is on the horizon.

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#34818: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:17:08 PM

What's with the Love Faces?

Gibson35 King Kitty from Hunting in the jungle for s'mores Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
King Kitty
#34819: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:22:05 PM

He didn't make it clear, but they probably had stern looks like the first drone and it is then faking pleasantness. Tat is trying to remind us that, regardless of his efforts that accidentally suggest otherwise, those aren't the good guys.

Edited by Gibson35 on Oct 27th 2019 at 8:22:43 AM

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#34820: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:22:07 PM

Hey, Tats! What happened with the zombie handmaid? What about the Halloween theme? Why did you drop the story of Li'l Evil in the Mansion?

"Continuity? We ain't got no continuity. We don't need no continuity. I don't have to show you any stinkin' continuity!"

Gibson35 King Kitty from Hunting in the jungle for s'mores Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
King Kitty
#34821: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:25:05 PM

Oh, didn't you hear? Halloween was called off due to sudden PATRIARCHY. (thunder crash)

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
FicklePickle The Red Bell from an island Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Singularity
#34822: Oct 27th 2019 at 9:41:02 PM

We live in a society guys. So whats next? Dronald Trump? Considering we're now in the perspective of the lesser drones.

A Slick fan
Garvalan Since: Nov, 2010
#34823: Oct 27th 2019 at 9:52:49 PM

I swear these pettyfests write themselves so easily that it's not even funny: https://www.reddit.com/r/sinfest/comments/do48n8/pettyfest_tatsbots/

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#34824: Oct 27th 2019 at 10:40:27 PM

It was brought up a bit ago about Tats' utter failure as a writer for a comic, and to this day nothing will ever top the best example of his utter and complete ineptitude with writing for a visual medium.

When he decided he wanted musical accompaniment, but rather than embed a midi or mp3 file, or even just post a youtube link under the comic that would link to the song he was using, he drew in musical notes.

I'm gonna say this again, because good GOD in heaven does it bear repeating, he drew in the notes.

Now, some of you might be wondering what the problem is. Well, allow me to ask you this, can you read notes? I know there was one person on the forums here who could, but the rest of us were left out in the cold wondering just what the hell the songs were supposed to be. The punchline to at least two of Tats' comics flew right over the heads of anyone who couldn't read notes, which would probably encompass most of his readers.

You can point to his messages, you can point to his same faces, you can point to his reasonable villains and sociopathic "sheroes", but nothing will ever beat Tats' utter incompetence as a comic creator quite like those comics as far as I'm concerned.

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#34825: Oct 27th 2019 at 11:39:46 PM

"Strawman mode engaged! Judge our actions by this comic alone without thinking about what we're actually going to do!"

At least be honest when you're taking narrative shortcuts, Tats!

[up] I've written several rants about this subject when the comics first appeared as well.

I might have translated some of the music used for others to see back then, but it wasn't clear or easy to see what music Tats was doing. I remember he wanted to use the James Bond theme once for Vainglorious, but he did not use the most recognizable part and wrote some notes from the middle somewhere.

It's such a stupid thing to do. The jokes didn't work on any level for the medium they were written for.

Edited by hayate666 on Oct 27th 2019 at 7:46:09 PM


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