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Aug 22nd 2019 at 9:37:28 PM

Today's comic. Poor crow.

Edited by feaaaa on Aug 22nd 2019 at 9:38:21 AM

Aug 22nd 2019 at 9:39:25 PM

I hope that's a female crow (or more likely a raven, since it's solitary) ... because if it's a male, Hekate probably would kill it now that it's no longer useful to her.

Edited by Hexapodia on Aug 22nd 2019 at 9:41:50 AM

Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:06:22 PM

I'm sorry Kate, but are you expecting to send secret messages and NOT have your enemy try to stop them if he intercepts them?

I mean, granted, it's the Patriarchy. These goobers are so damned incompetent that putting Jessie, James, Meowth and Dr. Dracken on the payroll would actually IMPROVE their capabilities by no small margin, but to quote and paraphrase Redcloak...

Because, let's be clear. If he tolerated your humiliating attempts to undercut his authority before- it was only because killing you would be more trouble than it was worth. But if you're going to stand there and openly scheme resistances to his plans? To deliver messages right under his nose and expect him to just take it? If you're going to be THAT stupid? There can be only one rational response to that.

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Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:19:23 PM

It's interesting that she instantly blames Satan for the crow being hurt.

This means that either she's used to blaming him for everything that goes wrong or that this happens a lot.

The idea that the Devil is constantly zapping random birds on the off chance that it's one that is connected to Auntler is hilarious to me!

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Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:44:57 PM

Auntie just has a Foe Yay hate on for the Devil.

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 3:08:44 AM

I mean, granted, it's the Patriarchy.

Is it? Do we have any evidence that the Patriarchy even exists? The only reason to suppose it exists as such is the "Patriarchy Matrix" rain ... and you need either Magical Glasses/Virtual Reality goggles or hard drugs to see that.

And if the Patriarchy does exist, what has it done? All of the bad stuff in Festerville is blamed on the Patriarchy by the Sisterhood, but we've never seen the Patriarchy conspiring or actually doing much of anything. Yeah, there's the pimps, but you don't need a Patriarchy to have pimps — that's just the Devil doing what the Devil wold have done anyway.

The Patriarchy is just a convenient way to blame all of the evil in the comic's universe on men ... including the evil that women do. (Because they wouldn't have done it except for the Patriarchy, natch!)

Edited by Hexapodia on Aug 23rd 2019 at 3:11:13 AM

AsherTye Mr. Monday from Somewhere Left of Right. Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mr. Monday
Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:24:38 AM

Nice to know that, when the spirit of her late friend manifested in her home asking Hekate to save her child from his father's influence, Hekate leapt into action and... made herself some tea while dispatching a minion to delegate the task to someone else?

Seriously, she seems more concerned with the barely singed raven than the mission she's supposed to be undertaking. Unnecessary as the "rescue" may be, I was at least willing to think Hekate was spending her off screen time preparing for a potentially dangerous confrontation with the series' big bad outside the protection of her forest (hence why she contacted Nanny J for some back-up). But no, she's having morning coffee. I think Lili needs to manifest a bit for a What the Hell, Hero? screaming match.

Wait...? Lili and Lily? Oh please don't tell me I just hit on something there.

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:45:39 AM

I doubt that Hekate will lift a finger to stop Satan outside the forest.

She especially won't try to kidnap Lily, and not just because he's a male and the only place she has a chance of holding Satan off is in her man-free forest cottage zone

I think it's partly because he just might kill her, kill her relatives, burn her forest to ashes and throw her soul directly into the lowest part of hell

She's too low on the radar, along with the sisterhood, for Satan to give a real toss about. She messes with Lily, she becomes important in a pissed off the devil way, and she's probably as good as dead.

The caveat is, as Hexapodia has theorised, is that she might be Vainglorious' mother by Satan (and therefore gets some protection from Satan using her skull as a desk ornament). There has to be some reason why he hasn't squashed her flat yet

If she pushes him too far though, I'd say all bets are off

Armies? Satan has the forces of Hell under his command and they are legion. Hekate and the sisterhood wouldn't stand a chance if they got the devil motivated

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Aug 23rd 2019 at 12:48:37 PM

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AsherTye Mr. Monday from Somewhere Left of Right. Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mr. Monday
Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:48:36 AM

Yeah, we've seen the forces of Hell. The toughest ones in it were the assassin-bots who defected several years ago and have been MIA since the beginning of this year when they adopted Pimptron Mk 2. The rest appear to be drones and shambling idiots (and Legion, but how often does he show up) which the Sisterhood seems capable of tearing through like toilet paper.

Of course a direct attack is probably a stupid way to go, but honestly what other option do they have? NONE of these nitwits has any reason to trust one another, so it's not like Hekate and her friends can just roll up and convince Lil'E he needs to leave...

Oh who am I kidding, about the only thing they haven't gotten to use is easy conversion to their side of the "conflict."

If Hekate is Vain's mother, what might be the odds she'd try to angle for her son to supplant Lil'E as the heir and try to control both sides of the equation?

Edited by AsherTye on Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:50:29 AM

Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:50:23 AM

[up] This is Sinfest, where the Sisterhood clubbed to destruction bots armed with lasers. I bet if push came to shove, Hekate would be able to stop the devil without breaking a sweat, because who cares about consistency when there is a narrative to keep.

Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:41:04 AM

[up][up] If Hekate is Vain's mother, what might be the odds she'd try to angle for her son to supplant Lil'E as the heir and try to control both sides of the equation?

I think Hekate and Vainglorious are estranged. Indirect references indicate that she has a sore spot about him. I suspect that either he got fed up with her anti-male dogma, or she's pissed off that V wants to emulate his father.

And I don't think she'll lift a finger to actually help Li'l Evil herself, because I suspect that she's responsible (probably indirectly) for Lilith's death and she doesn't want that to come out. Better to let third parties (Nana and the Sisterhood) deal with the situation. She just wants Lilith's ghost put to rest so she'll shut up.

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Mr. Monday
Aug 23rd 2019 at 8:33:38 AM

Honestly I don't think she'd really help Lil'E if she did lift a finger at this point. Up until about a week or so ago, no one else gave a damn about this kid despite every important player but him knowing his parentage. Trying to keep Lil'E and the Devil apart seems more like a case of spite here than anything else.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if ultimately both Kate and D-Man were responsible for Lilith's death but blame the other so they can claim moral highground

Edited by AsherTye on Aug 23rd 2019 at 8:46:19 AM

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:11:39 AM

With reference to the legions of Hell, I didn't mean Milton's worthless mecha-mooks, but real, live, fire breathing demons. Or Uncle Sam.

Either way, the point is the Sinfest Devil has a ludicrous amount of different resources to call upon if anyone pisses him off enough

As for the Sisterhood and Hekate,

None of them have given a toss about Lily for almost ten years. What would they do, and why?

Kidnap Lily from the devil and tell him "We kidnapped you because your dad is a very bad man! Now go sit in the dog kennel outside because you are a rich, priviledged male bastard and we hate you for existing. Here's some dog food for your dinner" ?

As to why they would? Beats me, because I can't think of any reason that doesn't involve them doing it for extremely selfish reasons which would paint them in a really, really negative light

I just don't see a reasonable motivation for the Sisterhood or Hekate getting involved at this point. I could see Nana getting involved as she's not a complete jerk

Most importantly, when was the last time Tats depicted any women with any sense of agency?

The sisterhood are old hat and don't fit in with his narrative of all women being powerless victims oppressed by the evul menz

My prediction, for what little it's worth, is Hekate will simmer with some personal grudge against Satan, Nana will keep an eye out for Lily (she has before knitted him a scarf) and the Sisterhood (Xanthe or Clio, but probably Xanthe) may confront Lily at some point and be bitches towards him

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Aug 23rd 2019 at 4:30:25 PM

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:26:42 AM

Today's strip: -

Is it me or does hekate look a little bit scared in the third panel?

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Aug 23rd 2019 at 4:26:58 PM

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:46:45 AM

Now, when you mentioned it: I can't decide between "scared" and "confused".

AsherTye Mr. Monday from Somewhere Left of Right. Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mr. Monday
Aug 23rd 2019 at 10:44:43 AM

[up][up] Ah, but therein lies the rub. You or I seeing Kate's actions as selfish is irrelevant, for we are the "unenlightened." Tats can have her pursue an intervention because she's fulfilling her duty to her friend Lilith, nevermind that she may have been responsible for Lilith's death or that she ignored Little Evil since her inception. That we might see D-Man as sympathetic, a father actually trying to connect with his estranged but found son, simply means we've forgotten all the "evil" he's done that necessitates Kate opposing him.

That's what makes this webcomic so weird now. You can't look at it from the perspective of the characters and how they'd react according to the rules of the universe they're living in, you have to see it from the point of view of the author and the rules of the universe he's constructed in his head. And the rules are "Satan = Bad", "Kate=Good", "Lil'E = That weird kid who for some reason still has a fanbase despite Tange being super cool and much better."

[up] well she did just hear a loud "SQWACK!" sound. Maybe it startled her.

Or she was coming out of a trance after borrowing the bird a'la Game of Thrones.

Edited by AsherTye on Aug 23rd 2019 at 10:59:44 AM

Aug 23rd 2019 at 3:32:28 PM

Thinking about Lilith's ghost ... I'm still intrigued by what she did when she appeared to Hekate. It was as though she was replaying her actions from long ago; there was no interaction with today's Hekate, and Lilith didn't even seem to be aware of her. But Lilith's actions consisted of asking for help and not getting it. Either Hekate wasn't home at the time, or Hekate ignored her pleas.

So now Hekate feels either guilt or shame about the event, and that's why her message to Nana was a lie. She wants Li'l Evil to be taken away from Satan ... not because she cares about Li'l E, but because she wants either to spite Satan or to keep people from learning the truth about Lilith's death. Or both.

Edited by Hexapodia on Aug 23rd 2019 at 3:41:24 AM

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 4:47:35 PM

[up]It's also possible she's too scared of Satan to take direct action herself - if the bird's squawk was passing on Satan's message, then the third panel of today's strip is her responding with fear or concern to it

Hekate must have some kind of ulterior motive in all this. She twisted what we saw Lilith say to her and dumps the problem of a friend's ghost/astral projection asking for help straight onto her older sister (judging by this strip https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2016-05-06) so she can continue to hide in the forest and enjoy her cuppa

Nana may have witch skillz, but Hekate is the one shown consistently to be more powerful

So why is she ducking out of helping a friend's spectre so hard?

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Aug 23rd 2019 at 11:50:17 AM

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AsherTye Mr. Monday from Somewhere Left of Right. Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mr. Monday
Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:07:42 PM

I don't know, to me it just seems like the bird was distressed and did what birds naturally do in such situations. (Repeatedly and irritatingly too)

I think the ulterior motive here is that Tats doesn't want to do a direct comparison of Hekate and Satan's powers. Not yet at least. For better or worse she's his Big Good and we all know what happens to the Big Good when they run up against the Big Bad. Given the Devil has never pursued any sort of retribution against these people for fouling up his plans, there's a large chance that if Tats does go the route of having the Psycho Squad snatch Lil'E out from under the Devil's grasp, he'll repeat the pattern of behavior. I know that sounds pessimistic, but at the same time Tats interrupted this narrative to give Hekate a chance to pose for the audience, instead of letting her advance the story.

Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:32:44 PM

I think "Aunt Katie" was just an honorific, and that there isn't a biological family relationship. I know that when I was a little kid, I had several "aunts" and "uncles" who were family friends rather than relatives.

On the other hand, if Nana had a child by Satan, then Hekate could be an "aunt-by-marriage" ... But I doubt it.

AsherTye Mr. Monday from Somewhere Left of Right. Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mr. Monday
Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:45:17 PM

I'm thinking Hekate, Lilith, and Nana were a witch coven, but Lilith left when she and Lou fell in love and she had Lil'E (and I wonder if he's ever going to get a proper name, because I refuse to believe a mother would name her child "Lil'E" and "Lily" was Tange's nickname).

Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:35:20 PM

One more reason I don't believe Hekate is blameless: https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2017-05-15

According to Nana, Lilith always saw the good in everyone. Even Satan. Even Hekate.

Aug 23rd 2019 at 8:33:19 PM

New strip: https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-08-24

Tats really doesn't like to draw faces, does he?

Or perhaps he just doesn't like to draw spear carriers as individual people ... The Handmaids have the same problem.

Edited by Hexapodia on Aug 23rd 2019 at 8:43:06 AM

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:06:03 PM

"Why draw new faces when you can tell them apart by hair and clothes?" -said no talented artist with dignity in his craft ever

And: "Get ready! We are on the move!...toward inaction!"

Edited by Gibson35 on Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:08:00 AM

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
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Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:37:37 PM

I wonder what Vain is planning

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