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Specular Since: Sep, 2011
#12751: Aug 9th 2012 at 7:39:48 PM

Notice:

Durandall posted a new Haruhi fanfic in soulriders.net: Outcast (I haven't read it yet, though) .



Re: Bigger on the Inside.

IIRC, Koizumi mentioned once that the clubroom was "saturated" of supernatural phenomena and thus there isn't enough room for more (from Mystérique Sign, I think). If Yuki could manipulate this junk data I think it could be possible to build a Pocket Dimension designed to host a more spacious version of the clubroom. Alien Geometries could work too, but it doesn't sound like a good idea.


Random thought.

Why is that imagery of Kuyou's Rapunzel Hair has been mentioned in the last two pages of the thread? Not complaining, it's just that after I noticed it I got this mental image of Kyon riding a motorcycle with Kuyou in the passenger seat and letting her hair flow freely from underneath her helmet. Pretty much like this picture - Cat Motifs + Rapunzel Hair + Dramatic Wind.


Re: Haruhi commercial.

I remember that one, admittedly because at some point I looked for a better view of Nyagato's outfit in this image.

I got the following info from the danbooru wiki about the tag "acuo":

Acuo

Mint chewing gum by Lotte.

Posts with this tag reference the gum's "Boutique" commercial, wherein Ikuta Toma's breath magically turns a store clerk into Mikuru, the store manager into Haruhi, and a trio of stray cats into a group of cat-eared Nagato Yuki.

   * 30 second version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgS9vWSWnrs
   * 15 second version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DTB9hmvxmM

30 second version transcript:

Clerk 1: "I'm sorry, we're all out."
Customer: "Oh, I see." *sighs*
Clerk 1: *inhales*
*poof*
Mikuru: "What wonderful breath."
Clerk 2: "Hey mister, you're causing trouble! Do you think it's okay to go around turning people into anime characters?"
Customer: "Sorry!"
Clerk 2: *inhales*
*poof*
Haruhi: "Hey, that's really great!"
Customer: *runs outside panting*
Cats: "..."
*poof*
Nagatos: "Nya~n."
Announcer: "Gum designed for fresh breath. Lotte. Acuo."


@Eamil:

Rhythm Heaven Fever?

edited 9th Aug '12 7:44:30 PM by Specular

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Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
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#12752: Aug 9th 2012 at 9:21:26 PM

Why's Itsuko so...

[up] The real commercials are catchy as hell

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Eamil from Somewhere over there. Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#12753: Aug 9th 2012 at 9:38:59 PM

[up][up]Yep. Also my favorite edit.

Thanks for posting the notice of the new fic.

edited 9th Aug '12 9:39:39 PM by Eamil

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#12754: Aug 10th 2012 at 12:24:47 PM

Re "peki peki peki desu ka" video: .... Would you kill me if I admitted that I saw a fan-made NSFW version of that video (in flash form) on a NSFW site?

edited 10th Aug '12 12:25:00 PM by MarqFJA

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Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
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#12755: Aug 11th 2012 at 8:40:11 AM

In vague terms...enlighten us.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#12756: Aug 11th 2012 at 10:43:22 AM

Same graphics style, and more or less copy-pasted the audio, only our dear intrepid reporter is in such a position that she needs to "hug" the standing masked wrestler's neck for "support".

Who wants a link?

edited 11th Aug '12 10:45:15 AM by MarqFJA

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Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
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#12757: Aug 11th 2012 at 10:51:57 AM

And though I might regret it.... -raises hand-

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HarryBCDresden Since: Jan, 2012
#12758: Aug 17th 2012 at 9:03:41 PM

This may have long since been discussed to death, but I was thinking about the relative ages of characters on my sixth read-through, and I wanted others' opinions.

Okay, we know that Keiichi is older than Akane, and IIRC, by at least 15 years (his lowest possible age in Higurashi) because his parents "tried to do better" or something. Kyon is 17 years old. Even if Akane had him young (say, 18), that still puts Keiichi at 17+18+15=50 or older. Despite this, almost all of his children seem to be around 12 or younger, besides Mion's oldest daughter. Is this correct? It seems like a rather long time to wait to have children, considering they have been in love since he was ~16. (Note: This may lend credence to the 'Kyon is the son of Keiichi and _____' theory.)

Just curious what people thought, or if I had something wrong.

Savoie Since: Mar, 2010
#12759: Aug 17th 2012 at 9:35:00 PM

Pretty sure that Akane has been retroactively placed within the events of Higurashi as The Ghost, either attending school elsewhere at the time or present in Hinamizawa but not directly involved.

edited 17th Aug '12 9:35:41 PM by Savoie

alethiophile Shadowed Philosopher from Ëa Since: Nov, 2009
Shadowed Philosopher
#12760: Aug 17th 2012 at 10:27:19 PM

Yeah, Akane mentions the Satoko's-uncle incident from Higurashi as happening when she was younger. I'd put Keiichi as maybe 8-10 years older than Akane.

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HarryBCDresden Since: Jan, 2012
#12761: Aug 17th 2012 at 10:56:40 PM

Thanks. I just misinterpreted the line "your mother wouldn't have been born if it weren't for the fact his parents thought they could raise a better-behaved and more responsible child." to mean her being born post-Higurashi, because before he moved there, he was a well-behaved son until the incident that encouraged them to move.

The relative ages of the children is still kind of surprising, though.

Specular Since: Sep, 2011
#12762: Aug 17th 2012 at 11:10:12 PM

Let me see: IINM, the current date in-story is June 15, 2011 (as of LL-5). Kyon is about to turn 17, therefore he was born in 1994. The main set of events in Higurashi took place during 1983 (June), eleven years before Kyon's birth. Assuming an age at menarche of 14*

for Kyon's mother, it follows that she was born in 1979 or earlier and she was around four or older in 1983. According to the wikia's page, Keiichi was born in 1967 (April), which means he is at most twelve years older.

Wait a minute... if Akane has problems to remember the events from 1983, this could mean that she wasn't that much older than four in 1983 and therefore not that much older than fourteen when she got pregnant with her first son... Could this mean what I think it means?:

OB-5: Resonance Cascade (part two)

[Yuuto] hadn't been worried about his son, precisely, as much as he was worried about how his wife was going to handle things. He knew, for instance, that his son had a much more complicated dating situation than his mother had considered, but at the same time, Yuuto was proud that his son didn't hesitate to accept the opportunity he knew he wanted. And that should have been a good thing, but the way that Kyon was barely given a say in the matter reminded him a bit too much of some of the circumstances of his own wedding....

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Savoie Since: Mar, 2010
#12763: Aug 17th 2012 at 11:26:43 PM

That does partially explain why Kay-one's kids, though born to parents who were almost certainly older than Akane, are still generally younger than Kyon (with one notable exception).

edited 17th Aug '12 11:27:12 PM by Savoie

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#12764: Aug 20th 2012 at 2:24:42 AM

Guys, isn't there a theory that says that the Higurashi incident, due to the Time Quake, ended up happening 7 years after it normally would of, in 1990?

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Agasa Since: Jan, 2011
#12765: Aug 20th 2012 at 3:22:50 AM

From a Doylist perspective, all the problem comes from that everything's been shifted forward due to Tanigawa's indecisiveness about setting a date (originally, as hinted by Kyon in the prologue of T Mo HS, we're in 2000. The time is shifted forward first to 2003, then to 200X and now to 2011.)

I personally find 2011 the best choice exactly because it gives rise to wacky speculation.

Bernkastel would approve.

Savoie Since: Mar, 2010
#12766: Aug 20th 2012 at 11:35:03 AM

The multiple references to post-2003ish cultural stuff (ranging from smart phones to Saw "finally getting a release") strongly imply a more recent date.

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#12767: Aug 20th 2012 at 3:21:13 PM

So, we... actually don't know any exact dates here, huh?

Perhaps the shift in space-time can become a future plot point? Considering that the Combine have a habit of breaking down dimensional walls and whatnot, and time is technically the 4th dimension, unless I'm mistaken...

wild mass guessMaybe the Combine end up causing an issue with time, and that is how they end up getting screwed over, because the Brigade ends up finding a way to use time against them, and the G-man observes these tactics and implements a similar(if not the same) method via Gordon Freeman and possibly others, to the point that the Combine finally end up being defeated by said tactics...wild mass guess

Any thoughts?

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#12768: Aug 20th 2012 at 5:28:20 PM

At least the TESA records, Snow Verses entries, and the records of the 108th Tsu-Oyabun are all dated. I think the epigraphs are the biggest hint for dates than other things.

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alethiophile Shadowed Philosopher from Ëa Since: Nov, 2009
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#12769: Aug 20th 2012 at 6:49:32 PM

Analysis of days of the week to dates of the year means that some of the stated dates have to be in a set of years that includes both 2003 and 2011 (and not many other years, in the right general area). Mentions of various things make 2011 more likely.

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Eamil from Somewhere over there. Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#12770: Aug 20th 2012 at 10:04:18 PM

As far as BHD is concerned, this is all most definitely taking place in 2011. Even ignoring the dates on the intro documents, things like Kyon referring to his PS 2 as ten years out of date corroborate it. Agasa was talking about when the official material is set, which is much more vague, though as alethiophile says 2011 is looking like the most likely right now. BDH just assumes Melancholy started in 2010 and the most recent books are 2011.

edited 20th Aug '12 10:31:00 PM by Eamil

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#12771: Aug 21st 2012 at 9:44:03 PM

...guys, I have just thought of something very interesting, even though it has been touched on before...

I had just thought about Kanae's powers again, and I realized something most interesting... Namely, that since she can enter Closed Space, could she also learn to enter and exit Kuyou's shadow song? Because, if she can, she can get some real world practice by switching between said place and the regular world repeatedly, and also learn to know other places by traveling there while in the shadow song. Yuki and Kuyou can indeed help out in this particular case, as well give Kanae an additional means for a quick escape, or a hiding place of sorts, when needed. Hm...

Considering this, and the fact that she would need a means to see into the real world to avoid performing a Tele-Frag as a required secondary power, that could lead to some... interesting situations, yes?

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Specular Since: Sep, 2011
#12772: Aug 21st 2012 at 11:16:46 PM

@Mad Kitsu:

IINM, Kuyou's shadow song is a really dangerous place if she is not there to keep a small sector habitable. From SB-1, Yuki's PoV:

That did not prepare her for the environment she entered.

Kyon had previously described the space as being very 'like' normal space, but the moment she arrived her senses were assaulted with a burst of radiation, raw energy cast off from matter being shredded by intense gravity tides — the energy present was too high to be accounted for even with the collapse of the earth's Sun. A small island of inexplicably balanced tidal forces left a bubble of more survivable space in a perfectly circular radius of about twelve kilometers.

If Kanae is ever in need of an exotic layer of reality to teleport into, maybe Sasaki's Closed Space (available 24/7 with a working electrical grid) could be a good option; Hanyuu's "kami plane" was suggested at some point in this thread too. That said, I'm failing to see what use could Kanae give to a place like that if she already can teleport herself around without any problems other than requiring something to determinate the exit point.

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Eamil from Somewhere over there. Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#12773: Aug 22nd 2012 at 7:35:00 AM

On the subject of Hanyuu's "kami plane," is that based on anything or did Durandall come up with that idea on his own? I didn't notice anything like that mentioned in the VN.

Actually, same question for Rika being able to commune with spirits-who-are-not-Hanyuu during the full moon. Where did that come from?

Jbstormburst Since: May, 2011
#12774: Aug 22nd 2012 at 9:44:08 AM

...Don't ever remember that being brought up about Rika. Admittedly, though, I can't say I know Higurashi's canon as completely as some of you do.

As for Hanyuu's kami plane? I see it more as Yuki substantiating on Hanyuu's own situation through her world-view. It may or may not exist, but when we consider that all we know of Hanyuu's "plane" is from Yuki's word of mouth, it certainly seems to us that it does.

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#12775: Aug 22nd 2012 at 9:18:07 PM

@ Specular: To be fair, Kuyou was trying to capture Kimidori with the force of a fricking black hole, and one would think that that would of been what was causing the environment to be the way that it is. In fact, technically speaking, the shadow song is where Kuyou can use her powers without accidentally destroying the Earth in the process, as it can be cleared away afterwards with no harm done to the buildings and people and all that.

And Kanae has an easier time teleporting to people than to places, and it would be easier for her to practice teleporting to places if she didn't have to hide her powers from people, and especially from Sasaki. So, an exact replica of said locations in the same places as their real world counterparts would be helpful for knowing the layout of an area personally, including places where it would be safe to teleport in without risking her being spotted, or worse still, a nasty case of Tele-Frag. After all, you got to know the area of where you're going if you want to avoid such problems, right?

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