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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#5226: May 15th 2013 at 8:19:23 AM

How many times do you do the girls anyway
Well this is getting into questionable territory here.

Nitramy Evil-Smiting Umbrella from Antipolo City, PH Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Evil-Smiting Umbrella
#5227: May 15th 2013 at 8:34:50 AM

[up] Just tell the asker to play the damn game and stop asking these creeper questions.

Besides, these are the type of questions whose answers are best found through experience rather than spoonfeeding, ugh.

Neither goony beard-men nor rainbow-haired she-twinks will stand in the way of my dreams!
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#5228: May 15th 2013 at 8:48:57 AM

[up]I've already played the entire game to 100%, thank you very much.

I knew someone was going to take that out of context...

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#5229: May 15th 2013 at 11:30:03 AM

Good sir, I was naught but jokingly taking something out of context! [up][up]

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#5230: May 15th 2013 at 12:23:51 PM

@sunember: Do you know about skip mode? Because it makes replaying much less of a pain.

SalmonPunch I never asked for this from Connecticutt, USA Since: Feb, 2013
I never asked for this
#5231: May 15th 2013 at 12:57:47 PM

The easiest way to convert people is to show them the screencaps of imageboard reaction threads that were featured under Katawa Shoujo

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Sunember123 Cheesus! Since: Jun, 2012
Cheesus!
#5232: May 15th 2013 at 5:54:41 PM

Yeah but when they ask you about the game's features.. There's just no way of putting "dating crippled girls" without sounding wrong.

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#5233: May 15th 2013 at 6:23:17 PM

Just say that it's about dating girls, and oh, they just happen to be crippled.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#5234: May 15th 2013 at 6:26:27 PM

I think that to most people who haven't played it (including me), the only difference is semantics.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#5235: May 15th 2013 at 7:02:33 PM

Maybe don't mention the disabilities until they're already hooked? That way if they object they look like the bad guy who thinks blind people are hideous instead of you looking like an amputee fetishist.

edited 15th May '13 7:03:06 PM by rikalous

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#5236: May 15th 2013 at 7:45:55 PM

Right, I should be more clear. The core of the story is like that of any other romantic visual novel - our protagonist becomes friends with a girl, bonds with her, and eventually develops a relationship with her.

The deal with Katawa Shoujo is that it doesn't use any of the character's disabilities as things that define them, only as things that affect them in varying forms. It uses them as a vehicle for the story, for change. The disabilities themselves aren't the focus, they are what gives the story context. They are handled with care and taste, not dismissed as trivial or as something that completely defines their characters.

Hisao's arrhythmia isn't what defines him in the beginning of the story, it's the fact that has to adapt to a new, difficult situation. Shizune is deaf-mute, but it's her competitive spirit and enthusiasm that drives her as Student Council President. Emi has no legs, yet is in the track team and is very cheerful. Rin has no arms, but since she's such a Cloud Cuckoolander you'd occasionally forget it. And so on, and so on...

Of course, that's oversimplifying it, but I think the game is best played without knowing much, so I won't say much in detail.

In conclusion, Katawa Shoujo isn't about dating crippled girls. It's about dating girls, actual people like you and me, who have both good and bad points.

And really, even then you could still say that it's not interesting enough, or that it's an idea that could fail horribly, but no, it's a work that was made entirely out of dedication and love.

It's not an exaggerated claim, either. This is a free work created on no budget whatsoever, developed for 5 years by an international group of people who probably never met physically, who originally didn't know the first thing about making visual novels. A work that was on more than one occasion on the verge of collapsing, yet somehow it was actually finished.

It's one of those few works which actually lives up to what it was intended to be, despite all odds, and which may have more than lived up to expectations. For all that is holy, at least give it a try.

edited 15th May '13 8:28:48 PM by Crinias

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#5237: May 15th 2013 at 8:04:38 PM

[stares in disbelief]

...Well... you certainly feel... strongly about this. I wonder if I'd ever felt such strong emotions for a work I love.

I mostly said what I did because to my overly-literal brain "crippled girls" and "girls who are crippled" mean precisely the same thing, except that "crippled" is used as an attributive adjective in one and part of a relative clause in the other. I should learn to stop being so literal.

Really, I don't understand why seemed apprehensive about this concept. When I first heard about it, I knew it could go badly, but I still thought the concept was a neat idea. At least as far as I can remember, which may not be accurate.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from More sheep than people (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#5238: May 15th 2013 at 8:26:52 PM

I usually don't mention dating at all. I just mention what happens to Hisao and how he gets to Yamaku, and the core of Act 1.

RJSavoy Reymmã from Edinburgh Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmã
#5239: May 22nd 2013 at 4:34:55 PM

Playing Rin's route, there were times when I forgot that she's 'armless. There was never a moment in which I forgot about her way of speaking.

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Enthryn (they/them) Since: Nov, 2010
(they/them)
#5240: May 23rd 2013 at 5:20:05 PM

Mostly 'armless.

Monta The Preceptor from the network Since: Jun, 2012
The Preceptor
#5241: Jun 1st 2013 at 5:46:17 PM

I was pretty fortunate - my friend had heard of it and wanted it. He saw I had it, I gave him the installer, we talked about KS for awhile.

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."
Enthryn (they/them) Since: Nov, 2010
(they/them)
#5242: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:01:44 PM

Thought: Rin meets River Tam. What happens?

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#5243: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:27:33 PM

River starts using her feet to paint every surface in Serenity that doesn't move away before she can finish.

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#5244: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:30:35 PM

Rin meets Toph. What happens?

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#5245: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:36:51 PM

They quickly determine they have nothing in common and go their separate ways.

Enthryn (they/them) Since: Nov, 2010
(they/them)
#5246: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:42:22 PM

I'd just like to see anyone else try to follow a conversation between Rin and River. Especially if they somehow understand each other perfectly.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#5247: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:05:44 AM

I don't think they would. Rin barely understands herself.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#5248: Jun 2nd 2013 at 1:21:23 PM

Being psychic, River has a decent shot at it.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#5250: Jun 2nd 2013 at 1:34:52 PM

Remember, never try to read the mind of a genius, a lunatic, or a nineball.

edited 23rd Jul '13 6:38:57 PM by rikalous


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