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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#301: Apr 4th 2011 at 4:21:49 AM

Heh, Baccano is not a good example. It has a "sequel" of sorts, Durarara, which wouldn't have existed if Baccano wasn't popular. Baccan did influenced the industry more then your 6-episoded anime.

I understand, and agree, with what you said, however. Hanbun No Tsuki Ga Noboru Sora is no more 'important' then most stuff out there.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#302: Apr 4th 2011 at 4:33:37 AM

Baccano influenced nothing. Durarara is just the next series written by the same guy. He didn't influence himself, he just kept writing the same style he'd always written. If someone else had written Durarara that could be claimed as influence, but as it is it's just an idiosyncratic style.

And the Durarara anime probably would've been made even if Baccano anime hadn't been notably successful. We're currently in a Light Novel boom where anything remotely popular gets animated.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#303: Apr 4th 2011 at 5:00:37 AM

Durarara, as an anime, wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Baccano. I am not saying the latter influenced the former story telling or something like that (they are similar because, as you said, they are written by the same guy). What Baccano influenced is the public and publishers opinion, to allow Durarara come to live.

Durarara may have been published if Baccano haven't existed/was a flop. But we don't know that. For all we have information, one anime only exist because of the other. (also, Durarara would have probably been single cour season in that case, which would completely change it)

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#304: Apr 4th 2011 at 5:13:34 AM

Alright, I get it. Sorry if I used the word "important", I simply meant "more widely known"; it had nothing to do with influence nor actual quality.

GendoIkari Since: Aug, 2010
#305: Apr 9th 2011 at 11:02:10 AM

I hadn't checked the KS website for a while so they even edited the post title meanwhile, but I was impressed by the second "new" character, Saki. I know a girl affected by ataxia, when I wrote an article on the game a few months ago, I showed it to her before publication. She's one of the greatest people I've ever met, trying to live the best she can.

Also, in that article I wrote the full game was unlikely to come out this year. Well, I'll have to update when it's finally released tongue

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#306: Apr 10th 2011 at 1:29:22 AM

[up] IT'S GENDO!

Oh hey, the devs refer to us.

edited 11th Apr '11 6:52:45 AM by DOmen

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
EternalSeptember Since: Sep, 2010
#308: Apr 16th 2011 at 11:42:49 PM

Wha? Huh?

There is someone else other than me reading Visual Novels in Hungary?

And they are even translating them?

Thisssssshdfsdgsgsbjkhgjchr

edited 16th Apr '11 11:43:01 PM by EternalSeptember

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#309: Apr 19th 2011 at 3:13:01 PM

Oh, hey, it seems Katawa Shoujo Japanese translation will be solde in some doujin event. Just the demo, of course. For 500 yen (about 5 dollars), including the CD and the manual.

Awesome. I am curious in how well it will perform. Since it is just a demo, we can't expect much, but probably will give an idea of the game popularity in Japan.

Now, lets hope the full version get to be on the Comiket. tongue

(Weird thing is the version sold is outdated. Probably because V5 just came out)

edited 19th Apr '11 3:15:54 PM by Heatth

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#310: Apr 19th 2011 at 3:43:46 PM

I hope it doesn't stir up too much controversy. The title has some nasty connotations in Japanese. Or so I heard.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#311: Apr 19th 2011 at 3:52:47 PM

So have I. I've also heard it is not as bad as people think. Apparently, for a native speaker, it sounds more antiquated then offensive. I believe there will be no much problem then.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#312: Apr 19th 2011 at 4:39:14 PM

From what I've heard, 'katawa' isn't exactly the nicest way you could phrase it, but nor is it the current offensive term in use.

It's been fun.
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#313: Apr 19th 2011 at 4:47:23 PM

Well, you speak Japanese, so you tell us.tongue I am just repeating what is on the Katawa Shoujo page itself. Either way, I suppose it won't cause that much controversy. It is not a Kotobagari. I hope the pretty girls in the cover will distract people from the ugly word.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#314: Apr 19th 2011 at 5:18:57 PM

Apparently it is kotobagari, and banned from broadcast in Japan. But apparently the creators didn't know that.

It's been fun.
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#315: Apr 19th 2011 at 5:36:01 PM

Wait, really? Then how is not "the current offensive term in use". I thought that this was the very definition of kotobagari.

Anyway, if this essay is to be believed, then you are right (although I haven't really read it, may have misunderstood).

I am confused now. Is or is not an overly offensive word? And can it be sold under that name? Is kotobari allowed if in a doujin?

PS: Which author you are talking about, incidentally? The 4 Leaves Studio or RAITA?

edited 19th Apr '11 5:37:32 PM by Heatth

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#316: Apr 19th 2011 at 5:50:00 PM

I wasn't aware that it was technically kotobagari, so that post of mine was wrong.

It's still sellable; kotobagari just aren't allowed to be broadcast on, say, NHK. The word 'kotobagari' refers generally to phrases that some feel are incorrectly censored due to overt political correctness, doesn't it?

It's been fun.
Killersquid Not Really a Cephalopod from New Jersey Since: Jan, 2001
Not Really a Cephalopod
#317: Apr 19th 2011 at 11:23:35 PM

They knew it was a bad thing. They just didn't care.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#318: Apr 20th 2011 at 3:46:13 AM

[up][up]All I know of kotobagari comes from here, so I couldn't tell.tongue This article, as well as the Wikipedia one, speak of it as it is for all politically incorrect words. Regardless of if people think on then that way or not.

Anyway, so it is still sellable eh? Good to know. Also, if I understood correctly, despite being, technically, a Kotobagari, people in Japan nowadays don't feel to bothered by it, right? So there shouldn't be much controversy. Not more then a game about crippled people would already spark, anyway.

The only downside is apparently we can't even dream with an anime, even if it sell thousands in the Comiket. tongue Considering what happened to Tsukihime and Higurashi, this isn't, necessarily, a bad thing. (it also wouldn't happen, anyway)

EternalSeptember Since: Sep, 2010
#319: Apr 20th 2011 at 4:26:36 AM

And anyways, there are ome really, really, really fucked up doujinshi eroge out there, there is no way that anyone would have any problem with a dirty word in a title (that isn't even that offensive).

I don't even think that most Japanese would even be bugged by the strange terminology, We are talking about the culture that gave us titles like...

Azumanga Daioh — (Azuma's Manga for Daioh (magazine))
CLANNAD — ("It's Irish for "Family", right? No, it isn't? Eh, whatever!")
Evangelion — (Anno: "Well, it sounded cool...")
Oniichan No Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janain Dakara Ne — (WORDS! MORE WORDS!)

These folks are not exactly perfectionists when it comes to picking the most appropriate title for a work anyways, is what I'm trying to say.

edited 20th Apr '11 4:28:33 AM by EternalSeptember

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#320: Apr 20th 2011 at 5:40:02 AM

This artwork is amazing! Now that I think about it, with my current hairstyle I kinda look like Hisao... Only without arrythmia... And the girls...

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
someone
#321: Apr 20th 2011 at 6:02:56 AM

Hey um, is this game gonna have a Bleached Underpants release?

edited 20th Apr '11 6:03:24 AM by ThatHuman

something
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#322: Apr 20th 2011 at 6:25:16 AM

Yeah, you'll be able to disable the H-scenes.

On the subject of titling: It's true that anime's typically very loose about titles and little things like how much sense they make, but let's be honest - naming a work 'Familia' or 'Brother, I Don't Like You At All' is different from naming a work 'Cripple Girls'. Which is not to say that I dislike the title or think it should be kotobagari'd; just that some names are on a different level of... well, not 'odd' per se, but...

Anyway. The game's being sold at Comiket, right? So I don't think they'll be getting many complaints from such open-minded individuals.

edited 20th Apr '11 6:25:27 AM by RedSavant

It's been fun.
ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
someone
#323: Apr 20th 2011 at 6:38:47 AM

[up]Will I have the option of no H-Scenes downloaded? That might save on download time, especially if my connection speed happened to become slow for some unclear reason. Or... for anybody who uses bittorrent.

edited 20th Apr '11 6:39:28 AM by ThatHuman

something
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#324: Apr 20th 2011 at 6:47:33 AM

I don't know. Probably not?

It's been fun.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#325: Apr 20th 2011 at 6:54:02 AM

It's much easier for them to just put a check box in the options than it is for them to maintain two different versions of it. Think about patching and whatnot too.

Edit: Also I doubt the size of those particular images would even be a noticeable fraction of the total download.

edited 20th Apr '11 6:57:05 AM by Clarste


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