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Everzwijn glarblgrklgrgg from under your bed Since: Sep, 2009
#201: Nov 5th 2010 at 6:52:52 AM

Apparently we have a new fan subber already. Episode 14's subbed.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#202: Nov 5th 2010 at 7:53:31 AM

Looks like I called it back in post 193.

He is just as powerful as the last time he showed up. I wonder if he is going to get a motorcycle?

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#203: Nov 5th 2010 at 2:03:10 PM

I thought it was nice to see Knightmon and the others again. I found it kind of strange that Lilithmon said the next zone that the group is going to is absolutely horrible and it turns out to be a place with a lot of angelic Digimon. So does this mean that Ba'almon digivolved? I am not sure. So far I am liking this season a lot more than Digimon Frontier though. I suppose the removal of power levels actually makes it more interesting since the group does not have to fight weaker Digimon at first and can just start fighting really powerful ones.

edited 5th Nov '10 2:04:45 PM by LouieW

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#204: Nov 5th 2010 at 4:14:23 PM

They're doing a Light Is Not Good thing. The heaven zone looks to be run by Knight Templars.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#205: Nov 5th 2010 at 4:47:22 PM

They're doing a Light Is Not Good thing. The heaven zone looks to be run by Knight Templars.

It's been done. In fact it's been done alot. Still though, we get to see Slash Angemon, and this is the first time an Angel has been a straight up villain in the series, so let's see where this goes.

edited 6th Nov '10 9:07:42 AM by HandsomeRob

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#206: Nov 6th 2010 at 2:35:11 AM

[up] You forget about Lucemon, who, in fact, seems to be turning up again in the next episode. I spotted him in the "next episode" montage, which kinda explains a lot about why Xros Heart are in their newest dilemma.

Okay, we have a subber again! Sweet! 14 was a pretty good episode, really.

edited 6th Nov '10 2:38:13 AM by Cronosonic

shinfernape Ascetic warrior Since: Jun, 2011
Ascetic warrior
#207: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:56:05 AM

I hope we Seraphimon in this show and he isn't a total bitch like he was in well nearly every appearance he's ever made in the digimon animes.

A wish is never free.
Blazinghydra Since: Feb, 2010
#208: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:22:03 AM

In particular, we seem to have Child-form Lucemon in the next episode. I'm wondering if he's going to end up as a villain or not... After all, the Demon Lords we've seen thus far are as often on Xros Heart's side as they are on the Bagura army's.

I'd say they wouldn't dare make a creature whose name is derivative from Lucifer a good guy in a children's program, but then again, this is Japan. I doubt many of them know much about christian mythology or care... but the localization would have a bit of a headache.

Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#209: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:25:18 AM

We're talking about Japan, the country that gave us Shin Megami Tensei, which portrays God as a total asshole for the most part and Lucifer as the lesser of two evils. It could go either way, but if they had Kid!Lucemon join Xros Heart, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

Though, Lucifer wasn't always evil, maybe they could explore the idea of how Lucifer acted before his fall from grace.

edited 6th Nov '10 8:27:03 AM by Cronosonic

shinfernape Ascetic warrior Since: Jun, 2011
Ascetic warrior
#210: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:56:23 AM

I wonder whether Angewomon will be there?

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#211: Nov 6th 2010 at 9:36:52 AM

Lucemon could easily be just another background character here, not actually doing anything. Either way, though, that makes four demon lords in this one continuity! I wonder if we'll end up seeing them all by the time this series ends...

edited 6th Nov '10 9:37:10 AM by Gilphon

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#212: Nov 6th 2010 at 2:37:33 PM

Keep in mind, they've already made Baal and Beelzebub good guys. Lucifer wouldn't be much of a stretch.

PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001
#213: Nov 10th 2010 at 2:34:05 PM

Another Kouji Wada song? HELL YES!

BTW, I just now heard that SlashAngemon's voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama. The TTGL jokes, they KEEP COMING!

Blazinghydra Since: Feb, 2010
#214: Nov 12th 2010 at 5:19:23 PM

Since the subbed episode has now come out, we can now definitively say that Lucemon is both a main character and a good guy. For now, at least; he was just elected President, so if he decides to go wacko again, he's in the perfect position to do the most damage. That, or he's just REALLY good at hiding his true intentions- the Heaven-Zone story seems to be at least a two-parter, so there's time for anything really.

We also see Shakkoumon, who seems shifty but ultimately good intentioned. Given how much he seems to be lurking, I'm betting he's part of Nene's group.

edited 12th Nov '10 5:20:53 PM by Blazinghydra

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#215: Nov 12th 2010 at 6:49:07 PM

Anybody else finding a bit surreal to see a character named after Lucifer make a successful bid for power over a heaven-themed area, and furthermore to have this be portrayed as a good thing?

edited 12th Nov '10 7:56:54 PM by Gilphon

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#216: Nov 12th 2010 at 7:55:21 PM

Anybody else finding a bit surreal to see a character named after Lucifer make a successful bit for power over a heaven-themed area, and furthermore to have this be portrayed as a good thing?

...........0_0

Maybe a little.

Well this is an alternate universe, so well see how it plays out.

One thousand Quatloos say Slash Angemon buys it first!!!

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#217: Nov 12th 2010 at 11:58:15 PM

To be fair, according to Frontier's backstory, Lucemon in that series was originally a good guy who stopped the war between human and beast Digimon, except he ended up getting corrupted by power... Much like Lucifer himself, incidentally, whose most significant sin is pride.

This Lucemon seems to be a genuinely good person, and the next episode seems to be focused more on Nene, who, being a sneaky little general, might possibly attack in order to get to the Code Crown before Lucemon can properly consolidate power.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#218: Nov 15th 2010 at 11:59:52 AM

I found the Lucemon stuff to not be too jarring given the fact that he seems pretty good in his current form. His other forms are the only ones that seem obviously evil to me. Also, given how he was elected president I do not think he will go with the group. If that is true, then I wonder who will join up with them.

Also, I feel like I heard a rumor that Nene was actually working for the "bad guys". I wonder if this next episode will show that to be the case.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#219: Nov 15th 2010 at 12:18:18 PM

No way. Or, at least not any of the currently known Big Bads. They are atively trying to kill Xross Heart and the other team. If she was on the Bad Guy's side, she would have had plenty of chances to kill Xross Heart.

Now, I can see her working for a Nebulous Evil Organisation who has yet-to-be-revieled.

edited 15th Nov '10 12:19:43 PM by Belian

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#220: Nov 15th 2010 at 12:25:01 PM

It's would be pretty strange if Nene was working with the Bagura army, yeah. Especially since she attacked Blastmon a few episodes ago. But yeah, she really doesn't seem trustworthy.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#221: Nov 15th 2010 at 12:45:39 PM

Belian,

No way. Or, at least not any of the currently known Big Bads. They are actively trying to kill Xros Heart and the other team. If she was on the Bad Guy's side, she would have had plenty of chances to kill Xross Heart.

Now, I can see her working for a Nebulous Evil Organisation who has yet-to-be-revealed.

Well, it was just a rumor I heard, so it definitely could be wrong. My question is how she and Mr. Blue Xros Loader were able to come from the human world to the digital world. I have a feeling that Nene probably knows more about that process than she has revealed at this point.

I too doubt that she is working for the current evil team, but I do not know if she is on the same side as Taiki and company either.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#222: Nov 15th 2010 at 1:19:13 PM

...I just realized something. If the Bagura army army is defeated and Nene stays out of the getting-code-crown side of things, we will have Red Vs Blue.

HOW HAS NO ONE MADE THIS CONNECTION (and associated jokes) BEFORE NOW?!

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garfield15 Since: May, 2010
#223: Nov 16th 2010 at 7:36:57 PM

So Lucemon, I guess episode 16 proves you're still the same as ever huh?

edited 16th Nov '10 7:37:08 PM by garfield15

PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001
#224: Nov 16th 2010 at 8:51:54 PM

Okay, the Genre Savvy fans were right on the money here. Unfortunately, I wasn't one of them.

So...Lucemon was The Mole for Lilithmon, but Nene (still not sure who she's working for) screwed him over. Is that it?

BTW, pay close attention to the end — Zenjirou wasn't teleported. Wonder what that could mean...

edited 16th Nov '10 8:52:28 PM by PikaHikariKT

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#225: Nov 16th 2010 at 9:19:27 PM

As I understood it:

Lucemon, who is working for Lilithmon, needed darkness powers to get the code crown, so he got help from Nene, who did some stuff for reasons I don't understand. Then Lucemon got defeated, and decided to go absorb a lot more darkness power from that stuff Nene was doing, was turned him into his Satan mode, if the next episode preview in any indication.


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