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RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41126: Jul 11th 2021 at 2:05:42 PM

Since we've found ourselves now talking about Zant... I like his mental breakdown. I know a lot of people hate it, but I thought him throwing a temper tantrum when it became clear that he was no longer in control of the situation was awesome. And his death always makes me laugh. Dude pops like a balloon, and Midna's just like:

"...I didn't mean to do that." O_o

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#41127: Jul 11th 2021 at 2:08:56 PM

Yeah I have to say I love Zant's last minute reveal.

His presence in the first two acts if the game is amazing but would not have made a satisfying boss figure. So, best of both worlds.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#41128: Jul 11th 2021 at 2:33:54 PM

His boss fight reminded me of the fight with Majora's Mask.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#41129: Jul 11th 2021 at 4:48:38 PM

Im sad he doesn't appear in fan fiction more often.

Though I can understand why, your fic has to be dealing with the realm of twilight for him to be even potentially relevant.

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#41130: Jul 11th 2021 at 4:52:08 PM

I have a soft spot for humanoid bosses. Twinrova, Odolwa, Zant, Byrne, Ghirahim, Yuga (I'm not counting the likes of Ganondorf or Linebeck, as they're final bosses; it's a more pleasant surprise when you fight a humanoid opponent who isn't the ultimate villain).

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#41131: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:10:30 PM

Aye the humanoid bosses can have so much personality and expression to them.

But if they were the norm that would take something from the isolated feel of a lot of dungeons.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#41132: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:14:45 PM

Twilight Princess tends to have smaller bosses as the mid bosses for a more personal duel while the main dungeons bosses are big epic monsters. It works nicely, though it also often makes it so that the mid bosses are the better fights.

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#41133: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:17:15 PM

The one thing I hated about Zant's reveal was that stupid spinning he did, while talking. It looked so dumb.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#41134: Jul 11th 2021 at 6:17:58 PM

A lot of TP's dungeons feel more inhabitated than your usual Zelda dungeon. Your first dungeon has this groovy monkey society calling the place home. Which I quite enjoyed actually, but I do crave that feeling of stepping into a dungeon and feeling like you've trespassed into a space that wasn't intended to be entered for a millennia hense.

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#41135: Jul 11th 2021 at 6:52:09 PM

Honestly, Zant works much better in Hyrule Warriors where he's much more loopy and crazy, but still clearly competent and brilliant.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41136: Jul 11th 2021 at 8:39:59 PM

If you all still want playable Zelda, then this randomizer of OOT may scratch that itch.

I didn't watch it all the way through though, because it kinda felt like the dude playing it was messing around a lot (or maybe he was limited due to a lack of certain weapons, I'm not sure).

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#41137: Jul 12th 2021 at 12:48:15 AM

I sometimes wish that Hyrule Warriors had given Zant an alternate weapon that made him act like his early game self (though possibly with some kind of angry mode to switch to.)

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#41138: Jul 12th 2021 at 6:31:43 AM

I wish Hyrule Warriors had Groose and Twinrovia.

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#41139: Jul 12th 2021 at 6:51:13 AM

I thought they were going to reveal that Groose was someone critical to the timeline and lore.

Or even, after Demise sends out his curse, it infects Groose and turns his bloodline into Ganondorf later on.

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#41140: Jul 12th 2021 at 6:58:39 AM

> I wish Hyrule Warriors had Groose and Twinrovia.

Twinrovia being two characters merging into a giant woman was probably difficult to implement

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#41141: Jul 12th 2021 at 12:17:33 PM

It feels like Goose represents the power triforce in much the way Zelda and Link represent their respective triforce.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#41142: Jul 12th 2021 at 12:55:45 PM

It'd be neat to see someone good wield the triforce of power for once. By itself, rather than as part of the whole thing. Like, other than the whole "power corrupts" thing, there shouldn't be a reason for it to inherently be used by only evil people.

And on the flipside, someone evil using one of the other two pieces. We almost got that in Link Between Worlds, but they weren't really evil, so much as a Well-Intentioned Extremist. And they didn't actually have the triforce anyway.

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#41143: Jul 12th 2021 at 1:25:46 PM

I always wanted Groose in Hyrule Warriors, with his "weapon" being wooden Power Armor version of the Groosenator. Complete with back-mounted catapault.

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Tsuzurao (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41144: Jul 12th 2021 at 1:31:37 PM

[up][up]There's Cadence in Cadence of Hyrule, as well as Cia and Lana together post Hyrule Warriors' Wind Waker arc.

Edited by Tsuzurao on Jul 12th 2021 at 4:31:55 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41145: Jul 12th 2021 at 1:40:19 PM

I'm kinda curious as to how you'd use Courage and Wisdom for evil.

I suppose with Courage, being brave doesn't mean being a good person. There's such a thing as Villainous Valour and all that.

Wisdom is much harder though. I guess it could be done with an Evil Mentor maybe.

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#41146: Jul 12th 2021 at 1:45:39 PM

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#41147: Jul 12th 2021 at 2:16:24 PM

Well, evil doesn't have to rely on brute force. A more scheming type of villain could work for wisdom. Which, again, Link Between Worlds almost did.

Granted, Ganondorf himself isn't exactly Dumb Muscle either.

Edited by FGHIK on Jul 12th 2021 at 4:16:47 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41148: Jul 12th 2021 at 2:22:22 PM

Ganondorf's plans are relatively simple though.

Like, his plans for getting all the stones are give me the stones or get rekt, and then he places some kind of curse on them.

His plan in Wind Waker was literally grab every single girl with pointed ears

I think he's at his most subtle in Twilight Princess, where he uses Zant as a proxy and has him doing all the work. It's the same in A Link To The Past, though his relationship with Agahnim is a lot less clear.

Not dumb, but his mechanisms are very straight forward.

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GamerManDrew Since: Jun, 2018
#41149: Jul 12th 2021 at 2:28:59 PM

Who was more a psychopathic manchild, Zant or Master Kohga?

Edited by GamerManDrew on Jul 12th 2021 at 2:30:52 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#41150: Jul 12th 2021 at 2:45:20 PM

Who is Master Kohga?

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